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Becher for Kiddush - The Best Choice Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at Beis Medrash Ohr Chaim
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What is the Best Cup for Kiddush and Why - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at the Night Kollel in Scheiner's Shul Note - Audio and Video are Slightly off at certain points in the video.
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I would like to
devote and dedicate tonight's
yearas my
grandfather f y side is tonight you
Thomas the son laser shiner
this mock
Tyrant
runs and continues to
flourish just for a brief
moment bring out one Auda that I feel we
could all
learn my grandfather was a m of mar for
over 50 years in TAS and other
places and he second s there
was a certain his loved him when he used
to come to and we were walking came from
the other side of the street to come to
say hello
to we find in this week's
para when M asked
the for a
to said I need a man but
somebody that's going to take care
that's going to care about
CL like by
himself
went but he saw heed and that's was
asking somebody should take him over
somebody to
cure my grandfather was a re that you
hear it constantly
from somebody over here in the Sho that
said that his password is who is his
favorite teacher was RAB sh he the felt
that he cured but it's to everybody
we're holding now the three weeks the
three weeks is a
time you want to rebuild the B
mdash so every person in their way
could care about somebody else you see
somebody that's a little bit of down you
give them a smile a good morning you
give somebody a hand you give everybody
a help something that we could all
be everybody in their
M we're
learning KES we learned Sim and Al the
The KES spoke about
what type of wine to
use there's one aspect that's not
brought up
over which is a very
important you have the proper wine the
best wine you know the ofes and say and
suda but you need to put the wine
somewhere you need to put the wine
somewhere see KES is
different you could even have a fancy
silver holder but you don't you don't
need it you could keep your EST without
any
cover a Talus bag could be it becomes a
certain kadas but you don't need a Talus
bag even without a Talus
bag to make Kish
you can't just you it's not
just will try to go through a
couple see how much we could
cover you want to go and you want to get
a you want to get a
be so the first thing is is what size
what's the
sheer I like to always say over
says over every
year goes
to he says some people get very
pressured in the they can't drink all
the kis they can't eat all the mat they
don't have they have too big of sh so he
says that the silver store is not the
one that determines the she of
the good you could get as big as big as
you want but if you see a small B the
has the she what's the shear the sheer
is a
r you need to have a r you don't have to
drink the r you drink but the has to be
a it's nice to have a beautiful
huge but a you have to
have that you see if you only have
exactly a and then if you drink from it
you're not going to have but the minimum
for in a later
place that you should see that the Kish
By Night being that it's the you should
go with
the
of what the she is that's a she for
itself these different but to go with a
bigger
for KES by night as opposed to KES by
day KES by night
is
in they bring that Rin said that if the
Le
s is Friday
night you want to see that the first K
of the should be to a bigger Shear of
we're not learning now but
Le he's definitely a mile of
drinking so if you're GNA have a big an
8 seven oun
be is a lot as opposed to if you have
the she and then you could still go with
the it's not so much
so the first if it's Friday night R
should be for the biggest
she good so we covered
that you got yourself a be the right
sheer there's another D that the be is
supposed to be sh
whole what's the M that the be has to
behold what's the M for that we'll soon
see where it's brought
in but what's
the the
says 10 items that are needed for
a and only four of them are brought not
all 10 only four we'll see if this time
maybe will go we'll go through the gamar
a little bit also but the gar one of
them the gar
says what does it mean k to tour as well
as this third in not on that but a blot
earlier
in understands that
means it's alive it's sh it's a it's a
whole that not brought
in
however we learn towards the beginning
of says that the of have to be like
the so if we turn
TOS you're supposed to have a whole a
full a whole what that it's not crack
and also LA and even
not some Beckers have a stand on the
bottom
even the stand shouldn't be cracked that
would be a in a
whole I think
so a dent I looked through all over I
didn't see that a dent should be an
issue however po po now does POG
mean
even explained even if it's on the lip
of the which is very you have a and it
gets like it could happen it gets
knocked onto the floor so I don't know
if the means that it's p it chipped off
or even if it dented in but even a
little bit even even if you're going to
say that it chipped off but even a
little bit the
sh even a little bit that goes into the
that you don't have a that that you
should not use it
in
this which
means chip
already but not supposed to
use asks sh from
the the lists out three different places
that these
call it or however you want to call
it to break the Bon and even a
p if a whole even a little p even a drop
makes
the so theor says and then says
something else also
says says the other doesn't
say and the says what's
the why doesn't the gar say
he
says meaning to say is the is speaking
about everything
that's this
is even ifes is even is to say that a
p not the is only speaking about which
pus that are gay when when we're talking
about Thea
now so said that the has to be has to
have a r she too small of a is not good
the has to be whole and that's dick
because it could happen that the co
could be bent in I'm not sure if could
be chipped but if it's cracked you
should not use such a
CO let's go over now we're talking about
what type of K let's go over now to a
disposable cup
RAB kimman spoke about it I think only
briefly but we'll go in a little bit
more and bring it out to see what we're
speaking about now the
different
so what should be the problem with a
disposable cup why shouldn't be
good what's the
problem CH says the small CH and he says
not to use not to use a disposable cup
he says if you have a gorgeous silver be
that has a little chip it's pel
drosa for sure a disposable cop is worse
than a chi beautiful be may you
shouldn't use
it the same thing also the sh mayor byne
was a r
London brings couple of different Chas
but he himself also says to be he's
actually in and it brings a story
that when he was in Switzerland after
the
war he wanted to sit down to eat and
they only had a disposable cup and he
waited for a very long time till they
brought a proper cup to be
y it's we're going to continue now in
disposable but
it's you go on a
trip to get a cough you go to the the
place that you get a cop of plastic C
you figure it
out get the water the bathroom the paper
that you you figure it out the cup is a
disposable cup so it's a sh if you could
use it Raa speaks
about the speaks
about should be no difference we'll get
to it in a minute should no difference
oh oh so we'll get to that in a
minute itself it's good we'll get to m
in a
minute Thea they both say and this is
important they both say that if you do
not have a different K you could use
that you don't have to make K you could
use a a disposable
C says
he also says not to use a disposable cup
but he says if you do not have a regular
be you should make Kish on the wine
bottle one second one second very good
very good
and also says you make kdes on the wine
bottle that you might say wait a second
the wine bottle is not full so it's CLA
that the be does not have to be
fully that St on a side note sometimes
you buy kidish and you see that the
person you know the be is not
full you could it's it's it's nice to
try to get it full
but somebody you 100% can make K even if
the is not
full what you
say one second one second good good very
good very good together with supp to get
back to also then I want to go on M
oh being the wine is going to
be so I I forgot if somebody res if not
I think somebody says it you don't have
you don't have to drink from the bottle
would drink from the bottle you can pour
out from the bottle into the paper cup
The KES didn't beades on the so make a
KES on the wine bottle but I'll so make
it under wine bottle then afterwards
pour it into the cup pour it into the
cup and MMA the wine bottle is not going
to be pgum everything's going to be
galic on the
bottle yeah but it doesn't
bring you over
making or you don't have
a they they
both the I saw his son sh brown stuff
they give out AA paper every week I saw
it's brought over there and and he
brings that that when you only have a
disposable cop making the bottle making
the bottle that's CL ra says that if if
you don't have anything else you can do
it on the Disposable they say do it on
the
bottle these matum that hold that you
could Rosa says that you could make on a
disposable cop you can make
KES so you're asking is asking what
what's the sad so I said over before
from Raa Raa says it's not very clear
but Raa says that it's it's it's worse
than a a
chi but what what I could say is to what
you're saying
the same also as
the they both say this
explaining I don't want to get go into
that particular but they say the is that
it does have a meaning to say is it to
say not maybe doesn't have so what's the
problem but it has what's the for this
sud you using it you'll throw it out
right after the Su you roll up the
tablecloth and you throw it all out but
for right now you're using it has a
speak it out clearly that means what is
that it doesn't
have but they say no it does have
because for this sud you're using
it let's say it doesn't have a so then
what is the problem so it doesn't have a
so what's the that also goes into that
it's not what's the problem when it's
chipped when it's shipped also it's not
shom it's not whole so when it's also
not a what's of the problem what say
I I can't answer you but I think that
the is that a chipped cup is you
shouldn't use a chipped cup even if
you're a person that your kisas are Chi
that's the
so you want to know that could be if to
depend on with so let's good I want to
get to that Mish in a minute that's
inant point that you're saying Mish in a
minute what what we mentioned before
that even the mater that say that you
could use a
disposable you have to make sure that
it's not dripping which means you could
use a paper cup you could use a plastic
cup you could use any of that however a
paper cup eventually starts dripping and
if it starts dripping then you're also
doesn't say it's a g he says Ro not to
use such a
kit some want to handle about that if
it's not ma because it's a
we're going to lead into your in a
minute in another timely Shila just a
minute I also want to go back to this
that it's some say that if you double up
the cops it's good so he already spoke
about it but it's interesting in that
stickle Maya brown stuff where he says
someone asked him disposable is not good
but could you out upon him use two
disposables so he says with two
disposables you have two cups that are
not cost
and this leads in to what you were
handling the maybe if it
is very
interesting
brings that the that the Disposable
be he doesn't say that it's but he says
even though you can't use disposable
cops this is better why cuz this he say
even people use it also meaning to say a
little bit like the it's also disposable
it's also
clearly the norm so to speak you use it
by a kidish they buy it with the paper G
goods and everything you buy five of
them all over the table and after the
kid you just throw it all out it's also
disposable but it has more of
AAS more of a
kashus which really we can handle
together we can Wonder and this goes
into the level what you saying third
world country and what level what's if
by a kidish they
have paper goods but the paper goods are
Mish fancy paper goods so and the cups
each cup cost $2 and half dollars so
that's the same as this disposable B
that cost 99
Cents here's a new
be that they wanted to make hope they
made it even in there to stroll they
always come up with new inventions and
make it practical a collapsible
be seems like it's a it's
a I see in the they ask for the son BR
they asked him to sh they wanted him to
give a on if he give they'll Mass
produce it practical you travel and you
come and you put it in the suitcase and
it gets banged around this is very it's
collapsible
not even so much the space it's more
that it should it should stay if not the
be Falls bangs in bangs out so first he
also I'm not going to go through the
whole Tru but first he goes through a
m meaning to say is before you build a
and now you're making it a before it's
nothing you're making it into now it's
good
that's we're not learning it
now yes
handles about it what say I don't think
he I don't think he brings in ban
as
well so for that you have you're going
away for shabas and you want to take a
collapse
so make it before
shabas okay so for that he says it's if
I understand correctly it's doesn't then
he goes into disposable it's the same
idea that it's not
a it's he says it's
like from a broken be what does he mean
from a broken be this is better than a
broken be because here you build it back
up but it's not gar from that it doesn't
have a king so it's also the same idea
the same type the same so to speak the
same
issue is another part that know if it's
going to be a part
two once you fill up
the want to try to make up I always
finish late finish a little early I just
want to be with one
more one more then the gar we said over
there says 10 10 things that a needs one
of the 10 one of the
T is supposed to
be
what's means around
it like the says these only four out of
the 10 that's this is not brought this
is
not even though it's not
it
says of Kes to put small around you see
some my grandfather used to have around
but it's interesting the Goan actually
says in a different place he says not
only to put the beas around but actually
to fill up the beas so tonight we
covered the just the be itself they
still what to talk about when you fill
up
and one more one more one more we still
end on time one more did before fing up
the be and putting in the wine is one
more D is the din about that the be the
gor says something else to rinse it out
to rinse it
out what say
so the etum once it's
clean I don't know where the paper I'll
say it from outside I'll try the once
it's Rin once it's if it's clean you
don't have to rinse it out only have to
rinse it out if it's not
clean
however M says you only have to rinse
out if you take out your back you
cleaned the shabas and you took it out
of the China closet and it's clean you
don't have Med you don't have to clean
it
BRS you're always supposed to rinse out
the you're always supposed to rinse out
the this
week's I want that I try to look
up so I took out the to look it up my
side didn't understand anything in the
is when it's things that you can
understand it's in regular and if it's a
it's in
rash I didn't
find brings this then also the says he
brings the Z and he says what the Z
explains the reason why you're supposed
to rinse out
the that c reason is relevant even even
when it's not dirty it's not only for
dirty the reason so then you have to
rinse
it brings many like that
it's brings it so this is this is
already a din once we move away from the
itself appearing to make many but I
wanted to get this in also from this