BIRCHAS HAMOZOIN: MINIMUM SHIUR REQUIRED TO BENTCH

As we conclude for a great we're not finished yet but li the guest speakers I want to end forem connected. But the later part of sapas we spoke about different you make sometimes the shon but when you're making clearly in you make a even if you eat a pass any anything you eat even a little bit you eat. Like the says, even if you eat a drop of bread, you make but the if the is or whatever the is even a little bit you make a then before to make a you need to make a you be washing on a if it's only a kaz thees you you have to wash but without a and less than a you don't you're not even know till you die and tonight we're going to try to focus after you eat a mitzvah the bench says is a mitzvah the bench it's the only That's undisputably this is the says you eat and you become full you're supposed to bench is or it's part of what's going on part of the story you're going to eat this and you become full then you have to bench. Is it that when you're full that's when the says to bench? Everybody knows and understands that's clearly that if you're not there's no what happens if the full is it only with itself or is there a that there has to be if these just says But do you also need to be ifas? Yeah. Some say that's why you need to eat a to be able to make the do you also need to eat a to be able to be he eats much less and he already becomes full. He became full. He ate a half a kazas, but he's no he didn't have a he did not eat a that to be to be to be you have to eat and also be meaning to say is if a person only eats a kaz and he's not full yet he'll bench midon not It's not enough to be full. You also have to eat a you have a person that eats a half a kaz and he's not and he's full. He's not the bench. And adds another part of that not only do you have to eat this, you have to eat it. We'll be shortly about it. Anytime you want to be a plus to be to be full he brings that whole you don't need. So what do we have so far with you and that's you have to eat or shear a kaz and also quicken off also you need speaking about the and he says sometimes s people eat lightly kipper to be able to fast. It's easier to fast when you don't eat as much. So he says be careful even if you're gonna have it worked out that you're surveil to eat the kaz and if you do not eat a kaz even though you're full you're not the bench not and it's a bro of has a cha as well also brings a from the shuva that's brought in the beer speaking about a that a that eats a kaz and he's full could be might see somebody else benching because he's also he's fullerish is that even though he became full with a kaz and rest of the world needs more he could still be mighty or even though his is not from the food. It's because he's not well. He's sick. He's full. He can be mighty. However, says only he could only be only. So what we have over here clearly says that a person is not If he doesn't eat a spectacular if you eat if you have then but if you don't have you cannot bench but you learned and how to cut Then you know and you cut a piece of kala and if you don't eat the kala doesn't you don't have to eat it right away. No one says you have to eat the gazayas right away. But if you spread it out throughout the suda, even if you eat a bunch of slices of kala, you eat four of but you did not have one says spells. They both spell out clearly. It's a you can't bench. However, the primagodim quotes this primagod the primagod argues the primagod says that when the says you should eat and you become full of it's not that these are if you're going to eat and you become full of the bench. There's no to eat. If a eats less than a kaz and he's full or a person by his eats eats five, but he did not eat one. He ate a lot of says the same thing with a a bit of a difference. We'll see soon if I can be a big maybe even says the same thing. You do not need to eat a spectacular hasty says that usually is a spectacular here the says what type of do you need not you need of so even if you eat spread out over an hour and a half if at the end you're full. So we have over here says this. He brings the gumar. The Gumar says that the Malarus approached the by saying, "How could it be that the noise upon him is upon him? The Tory says not to be upon him like it says ine. So the aisha said how could I not be nice upon him to clas I tell clius to bench the you have to become full and benches and if goes out of the regular I'm also going to be upon it's a famous if the says how could you bench if you're not it's it's a you're being making a says to bench and cli goes What does it mean? It means if you're only and you're not so you're still benching the sh is a bro of how can you bench says they need many desires to make >> you're saying you're saying just like they made all Yeah, that's the baby. What's that's that's the I guess the says I say okay so it's here is saying bench saying afterwards benching even before the benching yeah goodam That's not the says that even without what happens if a person is so without a kazal and they make sure to eat a KAZ AND ONLY BENCH with That's that's he says only came and and bench only. >> No. So went and they were to also do it. It doesn't say that they they needed to do it also. >> So you say they did but says like this let's go back for a minute. The sh was if somebody eats on and could he bench yes or no? So from that he could he's not you're right. If you learn that of he's saying of the mile of what the mile of what was doing that they also ate a kazen we have a if a person eats but he did not have a kazas at least not a kazas mcd Could he bench? Could he bench? The primog says he could. All the others say he cannot. Interesting. Just take out one or two lines. You have a sick person, a old person that can't eat a if he becomes full bench says says it's a whole I'm just taking out this part only becomes full. What what's clearly important to note is this whole discussion is in the if you don't have that could be a canbench but that's claw like we began to bench if you're not if you just eat and like the says which is already passed us in the brings it also you need what I'm saying is is that the whole discussion we have all the years which is you need the sh is if you also need so we have So first of all even though the mission brings the prima the in says on that I'm not clear about it and he says himself wasn't clear that's why he says that says clearly that you can't bench clearly he says are you going to tell me bench ing a suffix. It's not called the suffix. It's chlorench. He does say it's better to be careful and beer not to go into the sh of the if you're going to eat better not to go into the buton with a he says is that you cannot bench that a person has to be nizer anytime the suda you sit down you wash to at least Not only do we not consider in order to take you out of the riser >> if a person eats measur >> do we no do we do we say that it's not you say based on the share of the cake which is which is the lis otherwise otherwise According to all these we do we say already it doesn't even begin doesn't even have the >> it's clear that less than a kaz you don't have a that's clear >> however >> says but the primagaut is not stoold from that because the primagaut says even though you don't have an if you become full in the This is we're not going to go through all if you become full if you have with your bread you eat is also means if you eat a whole meal and then you have a little bit of bread that's a shift that called when you eat the bread it's vis but if you eat with the bread then it's visav but what I'm want to get back to what we're speaking speaking about if you don't have a you do not have a the says you don't need a when the says it's even in the here the says it's a different type of it's that is just on a side note we're speaking so much about Fras The says that the means that you shouldn't take a break of 2 3 minutes 9 minutes whatever the is not to take a break in between but even if you eat and it takes a long time that is still considered the over there says that the is dictate of interesting that it doesn't mean that you just cannot take a break. You have to eat the whole coming off the says clearly that you need means eat within the time frame. Not that if you take a break today that takes off the shim when the clock starts is it once you start chewing the bread or only from swallowing which is most of the times really nea by matzah short cheer it's hard to chew but if a person eats it slowly it's hard for him to eat is it from chewing already says it's already from chewing as well and also whose yard sight was this past chabas they say that it starts from swallowing so if a person's chewing it takes time you know the clock only starts from swallowing that's an >> is there one way or other words which is based >> reosa says that the reason why from chewing already is because you have it's already called eating a person chews and he doesn't swallow you find to a certain extent if you don't swallow it's not called so I guess the sh is how much of a when you're chewing you're already enjoying is that aila or it's only starts from the swallowing the from the swallowing is that's the more of a has to explain you know why I say from cuz you already have a from the chewing >> someone started chewing and and that sound someone started chewing it and give it to somebody else chew it up food right you why would you start from the chews it up and Shim takes it but can with two foods this eat matzah. Someone will crunch it up and if you can't crunch it up, someone can actually chew it, put it in water. But chew it, right? >> So you're saying the chewing sh >> Very good. Very well said. That's what I said before. Tiny posist about it. I'm just saying also you don't swallow. >> You can lick meat to see if it's salted. >> Good. Very good. >> Chewing out. >> Pash you have to swallow. Pash >> even even by chewing itself also. Yeah. >> But it's a it's a full topic. One more and with this I'm gonna conclude but it's I think I recently heard it if somebody ate the full he was 12 turning mitzvah that the coming night he ate Eat the he ate the whole everything. He would be a god. No sh in the world. He has to bench. He ate before his mitzvah in the afternoon. Then came that night and he becomes a god. But wants to know maybe he has to bench again because he benched earlier on. Now he's say what do you mean you benched already? He's maybe the benching is that you're full and now tonight he became a goggle and he's full. So he asked the bench bench over brings that his son-in-law is that the same sophagus that ate without a you don't make so you didn't bench and then he was and now he's still full does he have to bench says that maybe It's different. We're not going to go into it. But maybe one minute. Let's go back to what we spoke tonight with a clite. If you learn like the besides the no because tonight when he's a god he's not he ate it when he was a cotton he wasn't >> no if they learned from you did when you were caught. It's not >> what you say. >> But when he did it, if you need to be a he didn't do it when he was a god, you don't have it that says that it's just this but I mentioned it earlier says that's a type of usually over here it's a new type of so there also you don't have because you don't have tonight that he's that he's a only is that we said that says you don't It's only this that you should be full. So declares now tonight he became a gole because he's full is not just after effect that you're full. You have to do something just like I was saying before that you need to do a maybe you need to do when you're avo. And then this this kid became a so now he's 9 years old