הקושי׳ המפורסמת של רעק״א בענין שחיטת סומא

So the first part of the daf, the way way way easier part of the daf, discussed whether or not a sum is allowed to shat. And the truth is it's a mufarish mishnah. The mishnah is mufarish that a sum is kosher l'shchita albeit b'dieved. Not surprisingly, this stam mishnah that has no one that argues with it in the gemara is brought down in shulchan aruch. The mechaber in Yoreh De'ah sum lo yishchat el im kein acherim ro'in oisah. V'im shachat shchitaso kashair. So this halacha p'sukah of the mishnah in Chullin daf lamed beis is also a halacha p'sukah in shulchan aruch in Yoreh De'ah hilchos sh'chitah siman alef sif tes. Reb Akiva Eiger in his aggoyis on this halacha asks a kasha on the first samach. Akiva Eiger says, we know there's a shita in shas, it's the shita of Rebbi Yehudah ironically who holds that a sum is patur min hamitzvos. Great Reb Akiva Eiger the Beis Yosef in the name of the Rosh says we're choyish l'shitas Rebbi Yehudah l'halacha. It's based on Rebbi Yeruchem who says that the halacha is like Rebbi Yehudah and the Beis Yosef says that even though we don't pasken like Rebbi Yeruchem and of course a sum is chayav mitzvos but at the same time michash miya boy and it's for that reason in areas of halacha we're always choyish to the shita of Rebbi Yehudah that holds that a sum is patur min hamitzvos. If that's the case, great Reb Akiva Eiger how could the mechaber pasken? How could the Beis Yosef say that a sum albeit b'dieved albeit if acherim ro'in oisah is allowed to shat? To the extent that we have to BE CHOYISH TO THE shita of Rebbi Yehudah that a sum is patur min hamitzvos if he's patur min hamitzvos it means he's not a ba'al z'vichah and if he's not a ba'al z'vichah then how could he do he's like an oved kochavim and an oved kochavim that was the mission in yesterday's stuff. Over here is the way to go. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, HOW could the say that was allowed to go that was the doesn't need if he doesn't need his mama LIKE YOU KNOW IF HE'S LIKE YOU KNOW THAT MEANS HE'S NOT ABOUT TO BE HE'S NOT ABOUT TO BE so that means he's not allowed TO AND HE SHOULD BE THE WAY AS I figure a question at some says it's from here. Oh, you saw that the talking about in different places and that is that even that holds that was in the it's only from I say it's not from I say and if you hold that is really that was the comes out he has the love of the he might not have the of and we can clear if he has the love of the love I say of the but the love I say of the way that he certainly has I mean that he has the love of the way that he is a week of his a week for that reason it's AND WE GET THIS IS A AIN'T NO LOVE TO ME AS I see to the that hold that even that holds that part of the it just means that part of the I say but I love he's going to be I miss I say This is a force of the way that last we had two great bites on this way that I was thinking about the way that we get yesterday and I much bothered me I much don't understand the way that I much don't understand it I shall wait I wait again had a lot of another that says it was allowed to I wait again going to be the I was about to be and if it was not about to be so why is a I was allowed to go Why is the way to go allowed to go The way to go are also part of the way to go cuz they're not the way to go The way to go part of the way to go is more THAN THE WAY TO GO THAN THE WAY TO GO POTTERMAN MITZVAHS AND A FEEL of a hair straight of a cotton and a lot of NOW WHY? THAT'S THE TRUTH OF that the shark and similar common commas in the star route to be me a shift. Why a hair straight of a cotton and a lot of Now why don't we say that a hair straight of a cotton I considered to be not a mitzvah. So if that's the case with a sumer GIVE ME THAT QUOTE THE SUMERPOTTERMAN MITZVAHS. So why is the sumer a lot of HE'S NOT A MITZVAH. THAT'S THE WAY TO BE DISCUSSED. THE FIRST TWO IN MY THAT'S THE SHARK AND you got YOUR DAY OFF. THE IS SIMILAR to the THIS IS WHAT THE TWO OF DISCUSSES IN SIMILAR AND COTTON WHAT THE discusses in his psychic and base of cotton all the discuss this famous famous famous shiva. So what did you give a find in the of sumer that all of a sudden grace a niche. The mice he passed the what's up. The safest is called shita school and it was written by Rabbi Summer Garbus shlita great guy in the and on this mission this is what he says Rabbi Eiger cost of the after Rabbi who did this very late the sumer potterman mitzvahs become yeshly the mice a lot of mitzvahs at the whole SEE WHAT HAPPENED ALSO THE MOUTH OF THE GOING RABBI THE sumer play me hair straight the and I forgot THE WAY AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A I DON'T KNOW WHAT MEANS BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE THE MICE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT I THINK the twice you have to be asked such a Eiger. This is a Rabbi Eiger that's mitzvah and it's partial what Rabbi means and that is why is it that a hair straight of a are considered to be a a buyer's vehicle? I had a site to put them in a pot of mints. So we spoke yesterday from the native that the native said that the reason is because in as much as a cotton are put them in a mints and that's why you find a cotton is even not considered about in the world of stamina similar to test, but at the same time there's a lot of and because there's a lot of so it's for that reason he's considered to be in the parish of because even though he himself the parish and the cotton ARE NOT KOSHER TO not be able to go ahead and eat in the veil, but at the same time they're willing are mostly to make sure that the are going to eat. And by the way, we didn't speak this out yesterday, but that's partially from the native that this is not only true for a cotton, but even though it's always you see it's true for a and it's true for a as well. And the reason is because if it's only true for a cotton then the native you don't only answer a third of the right the all and cotton are kosher to all be it if you check off all the right boxes. What do you mean they're not the one second that's all good one second but what's going to be with a and a it's before in the native this way it is and we spoke out years ago an epic from the this is one of the two of them but it was a there was an maybe for this to have a by sending him to some rehab facility the problem is they were going to serve him non-kosher meat and they wrote a whole whether it's okay, it's not okay, it's a big and he says one thing It's a and this is I looked around a little bit I found that the end of brings it in the look at It comes from the BUT IT'S JUMPED OFF THE NIGHT OF THE BEAUTY YESTERDAY. BUT THE bottom line is that's possible that there's a lot of it comes to the end of the who said that's the beer. Why we view as being as being by the car. And we mentioned yesterday that really this is a shock. Anyway, the shock is a little bit awesome. But in of seems to be saying what the is saying. If you take a look at the garden who is a contemporary of the the says what the shock of the is what the I mean it doesn't but he says this far. IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU COULD BE IT'S BASED ON THE LOVE OF So do you say that it's because of the fact that there's a lot of Here's the shock. Does the have Does a little bit of you who that have So my shading was of course why wouldn't he have But I think it's a toy scuttle. I think it's a toy awesome. You know why? What's the whole of The is a of a cotton. We would love for a to be a message. No for us. We're Why would we not have that? A don't have the to be entire message. And because they don't have the to be entire message it's for that reason the is exempted them from messages. Stating that there's A AND SAYS WITH THE COTTON AND THE MAYBE SOME SORT of say the and as well but THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BY THEMSELVES. SO WE HAVE a responsibility and we have an obligation to go ahead and be responsible for them. AND WE WISH THEY WOULD KEEP MESSAGES. NO they don't KNOW HOW TO. SO THERE'S AN INDIAN OF NOW WHY IS IT ONLY TRUE FOR SAYS AND SAYS YOU KNOW WE SAID WE SAID SO MATTHEW I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE BY THE WAY, WHAT WE DIDN'T MENTION yesterday is the foundation says a very simple shot. He says that when a person does a say, there's a Now, when you get older, you'll continue to do the says. By an say, there's no By a say, there's a say there's a say. By an say, THERE'S WE SPOKE ABOUT BUT, HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THE BOTTOM line is the whole side of is We have a of a cotton that are finally be eaten. We want them very much to be able to keep the mitzvahs. Now, it was Now, it was that they're not They don't have the ability to do so. So, therefore a sumo I feel even has this. HE COULD TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. I DON'T have to take care of him. He could TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. AND I FEEL YOU HAVE A THAT A SUMO is part of the mitzvahs. So, you have a shita that a sumo is part OF THE MITZVAHS DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE COULD TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. What does that mean? IT MEANS HE'S PART OF THE MITZVAHS. SO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME? THERE'S A IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY IT. WHY would there be a SAY THERE'S A SOMEONE THAT WE actually want should keep the mitzvahs. NOW, IT WAS HE CAN'T BE in the mitzvahs. So, there's a A SUMO COULD TAKE CARE of himself with the mitzvahs. But, the Torah SAID I FEEL YOU'RE PART OF THE WHAT? SO, I'M PART OF THE IF THE KING OF but you can't feed me in the makes no sense. If the Torah doesn't care about me eating the food. So, why would the Torah have a problem WITH SOMEBODY ELSE FEEDING me in the food? The whole point is by the of the cotton, the way we catch him up is not that the Torah doesn't care if he eats the food. He just can't be cuz he's not about that. SO, GOOD. WHY LOVING AND GOOD? THAT'S THE RIGHT. BUT, THE BOTTOM LINE IS we care about him. AS A RESULT, WHERE HE CAN'T BE IN COMES AND IT says he should be IN THE MITZVAHS. I >> WHY WOULD THAT BE THE CASE? THE TORAH DOESN'T HAVE a problem with him eating the available the Torah has a problem with him. YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE ISSUES OF LOVE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE ISSUES OF WORRIED WHY IF THERE'S NO WAY IT'S POSSIBLE OKAY AGAIN AGAIN NO SIGHT OF A COTTON THE SWALLOW OF THE NIGHT OF JUDAH It's possible you know it's a shark These are Can we all know all this rate? knew the of a cotton is considered a virus vehicle why? Because of him But also I think IT WAS THAT I DON'T THINK SIMILAR OF YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF HIM I WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT'S NOT ONLY true for cotton it's also true for Harris for sight Can we go and choose this choose this life or it's really NICE TO BE YEAH BUT I THOUGHT I SHOULD HAVE A HAND IN THAT THE reason they're putting in our midst is cuz THEY'RE NOT THAT AND BEING THAT IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT WITH ME they don't have the love But me they I bet some it's not what they don't know how to be nice How is it going TO WORK OUT THERE'S A LOT OF but I assume they can get themselves You just don't concept of telling a person Be careful don't feed this you can TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF RIGHT it's it's a day to the natural even when you are Michael him in almost every single case Don't care the way it is a little bit too moving when it comes to a summer and it could be the whole was coming not the night of Judah not the shark in the prima garden not all this rate and that's what he said I understand the cotton What I don't understand What I don't understand is why would What I don't understand is why would a summer be different I was discussing this yesterday with the web shots and he said maybe you can bring a riot from places in Baba Kama that page nine much a dollar." Tosfos has a very famous khidush. He says that even according to Abaye who did that hold Suma is patur in all the mitzvos, but he's khayav in mitzvos derabbanan. Right? That's what Tosfos says. And Tosfos says "Russian is like this, Veneera. The Af got the patur Abaye who did Suma in all the mitzvos. Me kol makom mitzvos derabbanan khayav. The Af got the isha niftah mitzvos isha is mangurama from all the mitzvos. Right? Women are patur from mitzvos isha is mangurama. You don't find a khayav in derabbanan. Mishum she age mitzvos harbeh demikhayav all." Because they have other mitzvos that they're khayavin. I will Suma eat patur shleima kol mitzvos a filu mid derabbanan in kein have like a may nakhri she ein no no yayg betoyras Yisrael klal. If you're not going to tell him that he's khayav in mitzvos derabbanan, he's mamesh a Have like a may NAKHRI SHE EIN NO no yayg betoyras Yisrael klal. If there's a lo say khilum when it comes to a Suma, does it pass to say that he's a nakhri she ein no no yayg boy betoyras Yisrael klal? Either way, it's just a hard But I think as relates to pshat and Rav Akiva Eiger gets poshut out of the way. Rav Akiva Eiger held that the khair shait of a katan are considered by Rav Zvi Hirsch because of the fact that there's a lav of lo say khilum. Rav Akiva Eiger is being megaleh to us in this shtikel is that there's no lo say khilum when it comes to a Suma. What would be the svara? I think the svara is poshut. By a khair shait of a katan with the reason that patur is because they don't have daas. So they don't make sense the hazara demalaktana. But the Suma khot daas. THE SUMA COULD TAKE CARE of himself. And I feel So what? Because now you have a godol that has daas and he knows to be careful for you. I don't HAVE TO BE CAREFUL FOR MYSELF. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE careful for me? It's something that's mukhlis derabbanan. Ela my shita in Suma, a different reason. It's Suma there's another kinusho over here. You have to say a Suma is considered by Rav Zvi Hirsch for something a little more fundamental. So Rav Akiva Eiger a raya berura to the shitas that hold that a Suma is khayav in lo say khilum. If a Suma is khayav in lo say khilum again, posul rock oyra just to throw out a little bit of raid, we are going to stop here.