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החקירה הידוע בענין חצי שיעור אסור מן התורה וחזי לאצטרופי
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As it relates to rate,
there's so many directions that you can
go with a doaf like this, but I think
it's good idea to focus on the last last
part of the doaf,
one of the lighter portions of the daf,
which really ties in to some of the
gamoras and some of the raid that we saw
earlier this week. And that is the
primagim in his
declares the following question. He
said, "What would be if somebody would
cook a half a Zas of B of not a full Zas
of B of a half a Zas of B of Would he
violate the
or would he not?" In other words, it's
we just learned it a minute ago that
there's a sheer kaz as it relates to the
is of ray whether you need a kaz or
anakaz of or whether
are going to be
that is a shar and the only time one
would get malus for violating the
would be if he went and he cooked the
shear of
but we also know that
and we pass like
which means that all the that you find
of etc. It's only with regards to the
punishment with regards to the with
regards to the malus but as it relates
to the iser
is
if that's the case the prim would there
be
with regards to the
or would there not be
with regards to the
at first glance you would say why not
ifra
and this is a general rule that you find
in so why would you think that the isser
would be any different says I'm going to
tell you why because if you take a look
at the
gives two reasons why
is the first is a it says in the thou
shalt not eat but doesn't just say thou
shalt not eat it says thou shalt not eat
all of the says you're not let it eat
that word is coming to be something it's
coming to be but the gives another
reason why
the garra says that being that a half a
is
it's for that reason it's for that
reason that
is
what does it mean it's so we know that
whenever the says you're not let
it doesn't mean that you can't only eat
it or can't only not eat it but if you
would eat a little bit of and Then
you would go ahead and you would eat
another little bit of a share. those two
within that short time frame would be
it's
and it's for that reason here's the lus
even when I only eat half the share even
though I didn't eat the other half to
bear is it's already going to be in
other words the gave two reasons why is
and the is it says not just and the is
that It's says the primagim if that's
the case I think there's mock to say
that as it relates to the
there would not be a problem of
because being that one of the reasons
that the gave and both are needed
is
in if somebody would cook a bus of and
then five minutes later he would cook
another
of a bus of a would they be mitarif says
Why would they bear when it comes to
there's a special that says tot
but why in the world should a bish
that's not a bishial bear with another
bishop that's not a bishial 0 plus 0 is
zero each one is a and how could two
make one complete and being that says
the primary you don't have
so could be you wouldn't have
of
says
I'm not sure what's
the says that is because
maybe the gam doesn't mean because after
I eat a half a shir I always have the
option of eating another half a and then
the two will be
that they were of and it's for that
reason even that first half is already
awesome it could be the of is that when
I ate the half a I could have eaten more
at that time being that all I was in was
in the amount I did everything I needed
to do. It's just
that she I COULD HAVE ALWAYS added I
could have tacked on a little bit more.
I could have taken another bite out of
the sandwich or a bigger bite out of the
sandwich. get what means not that after
I do the shir I could do another half a
share but what it means is that when I
did the half a share I didn't have to do
a half a share I could have done more
and maybe that's why if that's the case
by bishop I didn't have to cook a half a
share I could have cooked an entire
share and being that had I cooked an
entire share it would have been aer so
maybe when I cook it's also going to be
a in other words is claring what is the
lumbness of is the lumbness of that
after I eat the half a shear I can eat
another half a shear
Or is the lumbness of that when I ate
the halfir I could have eaten more. If
it's after I eat, I could always eat
another because it's going to be by you
don't have a way to bear of two half of
it's that I could have eaten more by as
well. could have cooked more and if
that's the case maybe I would have the
this is the suffic
of the prim in his
the truth is the primod in another place
is this identical sh and [snorts] this
isn't
this is in
the primod if somebody would eat a gdan
would there be
or would there not be again it's
probably not going to
But would there be
or not?
What did it says?
We learned to earlier this week with the
Gmorra says that asked what would be if
somebody took Abra and he cracked it in
half and he ate each half individually.
Would we say that he would get Malus now
assuming the two halves made a a hole?
That's a share. Or would we say that
is not
what's the says
it's because really this whole idea that
is
very big the fact that there's a concept
of
if that's the case is Mim to say that
the only time you say the of is when it
comes to a regular but the of ish why is
it aish because
is not just the it's
being that it's
and maybe there's no
and that was
if somebody would eat but he did it in
where it was
do you say
or do you say it's
a very
say if somebody would eat two half a
They would not bear. Why wouldn't they
bear again? Because it's a
says the prim
that that's just like is
also it's the biggest in the world
because it's an says and you find that
it's if that's the case it's to me in
math that just like
and he ate them in two shots. It
wouldn't be when it comes to it's going
to be the same. If that's the case, says
the prim here's my is
not it's totally in how you understand
the
if means that after I eat a half a she
could always eat another half a she and
it's going to be mitarif. Well, when it
comes to it can't be mitarif. Why not?
Because that's me by and what said by
Dr. to me would apply to as well. So if
the two can't bear if you don't have the
but if it doesn't mean that after I eat
a half a I could always bear with
another half a
means that I could have eaten more if
I could have eaten more. Well, if that's
the case, when it comes to also could
have eaten more,
you could always have eaten more. And if
that's what
means then would be in other words
whether this
when it comes to
is the same exact shag
in
whether this
as it relates to the
it all boils down how you understand The
infra
explains this
is because it's
means that after I ate my half a shir I
could eat another half a year which
would retroactively mean that what I ate
now was really a aer and that's why I
view it today even without eating the
other half a as if it's well if that's
the case I don't think that's true by
and I don't think that's true when it
comes
If means not after I eat a half a share,
I could eat another half a share, but I
could have eaten a full share when I
only ate the half a share. Well, that's
true for as well. You could have cooked
the full share. And that's true for you
could have eaten the entire share. And
if that's the case, you would have by
and you would have
when it comes to the ofl
by the lav of by the lav of gdanosha. So
he brings the second primagod that we
mentioned the primagum sim and he says
that even though the primagodam had a
suffic
but the shagasar a contemporary of the
primag not one of the great 18th century
he in simmons palef took on one side
very very clearly the shagasar declares
whether this
by the love of bal
this is like a classic shabasic
portion of
but
declares whether this
when it comes to
it's part to me no he says you know why
because why
does mean that if I have a half and then
I tack on another half
press they're going to bear says if
somebody would have a half shear often
it afterwards he would have another half
and they both happened within a certain
time frame WOULD THEY BEAR NO WAY IT'S 0
plus 0 equals z the only time you find
is when it comes to it's in this
but
you're not going to have it
to ME BY SAY THERE'S no
it's totally how you learn
It's totally
in other words
means that after I do a half a share I
could bear if another half a share then
I agree but means not that now I could
bear but I could have beenar I could
have done more
I also could have done more the
what does the mean when it says that
after I do half I could always add on
another half if that's the case you see
Epic boy
in his
and that is [snorts] okay this is all
raid we've spoken about over the years
and that is
says
if somebody eats a kho of pes
Thou shalt not eat somebody.
Even though you're not going to be
punished, there's no there's no carbon.
All you eat, but at the same time, it's
and you're going to be
you're going to get makas. The Rambam
brings up Pik, a special Pik to teach us
that if somebody would go and somebody
would eat,
oft you get mus
you know special for that says it a
bunch of times but there's a sh the is a
what if you eat less than a culture it's
also awesome because it says
I quote
is and if that's the case WHY DO I NEED
A special
I have no I can't for the life of me
understand
the ra needed a pull out a pic to teach
me that if somebody eats
it's of course it's user we pass
now let's explain the c a little better
would be getus a real oh that's aes
because but there's no English. But the
Ram says clearly
SAY ONLY SEE ANYWAYS NOT BEING PUNISHED
REALLY. So if you're not being punished
anyways it's a regular answer REGULAR
ANSWER
WHY DO I NEED a separate
and
they both said I'm going to tell you
maybe why the ra needed a what would be
if somebody would eat a half of
so this guy made it through the whole
pes but he couldn't control himself at
the last second at as the curtain in his
at the last second he says you know
something I'm going to [laughter]
let me quickly and he goes ahead and he
eats a half a would he be over
or would he not be over
he wouldn't be
you know why because why is
because it's
that's why it's because it's I could
always eat another HALF A SHARE THIS GUY
can't eat another half a share you You
KNOW WHY? CUZ TOO LATE. BECAUSE THE THE
MINUTE YOU'RE READY TO HAVE ANOTHER HAT
PIZZA ALREADY at that point, IT'S GOING
TO BE SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE
ZAM. Even that guy is going to be you
know what says and there's a new answer
for someone THAT NEEDS A EVEN THOUGH YOU
DON'T HAVE the
but what do you see from the
like they both
means it HAS TO BE NOT I COULD HAVE
eaten more during the time that I had
because if that was the case every time
that you eat even at the last second
before I could have just taken a bigger
bite I could have just taken a little
BIT MORE THE TER is
it means I need to physically bear and I
have no time to go ahead and bear. In
other words, what the prim was about
with regards to
and with regards to
we have from the regarding the
and from
with regards to the
jumping all over the place. A real
smogus board of but this is like a
realmus board right. So you have over
here this grace of grace was had to
learn the in
what is
it that after I ate a half I could have
eaten another half a or when I ate the
half I could have technically gone ahead
and ate more wasn't sure and that's why
he had a suffic whether you say
as it relates to
whether you say with regards to the
held for it means they have to bear and
he that's why there's
when it comes to and
as well and they
need a special to tell me that when it
comes
the
he did it at the last second of I just
want to end with one last a beautiful
and that is
the Rambam in
the beginning of it's the first
if somebody goes ahead and he steals or
more he's over the stating that
even though that's true but you're not
let steal even
So the
is that when it comes to you can't steal
from somebody even a
[snorts]
says also in
even though the is talking about
and
says the same exact
entire that's
in
if you take a look at the in the
beginning of take a look at the on that
says quote
it's referring to
it's
57a
and by the way this whole idea that
you'd be for
oh it's like
it's true for
right we discussed it in the context of
so many there's no reason it shouldn't
be true with regards to as well
says
57a A you hear the dick. Do this one
more time.
57A
57A leaves out the second part. The
says that
but in
the Ram doesn't say that. He just brings
the gar brings them both places here.
He's mas
and over there he's not mas
he's mia on this beautiful subtle dick
such a subtle dick but why did the ra
invoke the
but he didn't invoke these
are identical the rama made a beloin to
the
But here he added the one LINE
and
did not add that line says
he says why is it that is awesome. So he
brings from the and our list is the and
that it's based on the fact that
meaning after you do the half a you
could always go ahead and do another
half a share says I want to ask you a
question if somebody would steal from
somebody
and then he would go and he would steal
from that person another pasuta
would the two mishavas be mitarif or
would they not be mitarif says says,
"Here's my my is they won't bear." You
know why? Because the says in that very
same
it says it elsewhere as well that a
person is if somebody takes from him
and being that is so it's yours. You
don't have to give it to me anymore. So
once I'm you you don't owe it to me. I
later you stole another half. Whatever
that's uh that's that's another half
that I'm maybe at some point they'll
stop being but once I'm right if you
chip away then at some point I'll get
the memo but the bottom line is this
person is if this doesn't pass
what's the difference between a and a
gland right we know the gland doesn't
pay kful the guy who pays kul what's the
difference the gazel looks you between
the eyes
and he takes it. The ganv goes in a
cunning way. He goes in a discreet way.
When someone is a gland, you know he's a
golin. When someone is a g, you don't
necessarily know that he's avo
I'm wondering you think this has
something to do with
can't be. You know why? Because the guy
knows you stole and we have an implied
that he was once HE'S NOT IF HE WOULD
steal another half a as a result this
can't have nothing to do with anything
to do with
and it's for that reason it's this must
be just a separate but in gene WITH THE
DOESN'T know that it was taken away from
him he doesn't know to be he doesn't
KNOW TO BE AH if he would know about it
he it would be what's the answer to
that. We passing like
nothing for now, right? But that doesn't
think we touched on enough big sluggies
in this.
But here's the point being doesn't know
about it. SO HE DOESN'T KNOW TO BE IF HE
DOESN'T KNOW TO BE
if it's
going to work with
him
could be that's this in this such subtle
you know the
talk about
teaching us
in such a subtle way in where there's a
there's no If there's no there can't be
inv
doesn't know to be there is if it's over
there you're going to have it but this
says is only true if you learn like
you learn like you learn like that the
way works is that it physically requires
you to be able to do another act for it
to bear. But if the way works is I could
have so I could have stolen enough where
there wouldn't be and you would have
but
like he held like he held like
means that it physically has to be and
if that's the case that's the why
invoked
and in he did not invoke
Just to really come full circle and that
is that we said that
they said there to answer who's
why did the need to teach me
and the
what would be in why the Mishna wouldn't
have answered the [clears throat] way
and the answered is because maybe the
Mishna held that the way works is not
that it could be mitarif it later. It's
that I could have done more. So what was
the terce? Terce was that what would be
a case where I eat it by where there's
no time anymore for it to bear. That's
all true. If I needed to p to bear but
JUST MEANS I COULD have earlier made I
could have had more then that is not
going to be in other words the maybe
maybe
is a from the fact that he
didn't say what said that he must have
held like the other
doesn't mean that
but means that I could have done more
all I was missing was in if that's the
case it's really a between Kes Mishna
and the Magged Mishna from Pesak Frank's
in the magna
and gaz you see that he held like the
shag and you see held like the Yehuda
and
means that after I do a half I have to
be able to do another half for it to go
and bear and that's true by it's not
true by there's always going to be
whereas the Mishna from the fact that he
plighted on the he an answer like answer
doesn't require me to
the fact that oh I'm lacking that enough
is going to be in other words the god of
exactly how
works his
bishop whether this with regards his
could be really between the maggot
mishna and the mishna the bottom line is
again this very So in terms of how to
understand
we discussed it in the context of
bishop.
At first glance, this would seem to be a
huge a huge mus
and we will stop