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The Mishnah on daf nem dal on my days, which discuss show our Proklos ben Philosophos, as Rabban Gamliel ben Akavya, sh'eilu b'merchatz shel Aphrodite. So, the Mishnah brought a fascinating exchange between a hegemon, a Roman officer whose name was Proklos ben Philosophos, and Rabban Gamliel. It took place in the bathhouse of Aphrodite. Aphrodite was one of the Roman avodah zarahs, and Proklos ben Philosophos sees Rabban Gamliel bathing in the bathhouse. This was a public bathhouse of Aphrodite, and he says, "Rabbenu shel olam, how are you this big rabbiner? You're this big rabbi. What are you doing here?" And the reason he didn't understand how he could be doing there is because in his mind, the merchatz is somehow facilitating avodah zarah, and if that's the case, there's a problem. And Rabban Gamliel said, "No, no, right? I'm in a merchatz. Can't talk and learn when I'm in a merchatz." But then they left the merchatz, and he started talking with him and learning. He gave him a whole bunch of different reasons why he held that this was okay. The Gemara said, "Tzuvah genuvah eish sh'lo ra'ah." It could be wasn't so eloquent what he told him because maybe there was an element of geneivat da'at. That's what it says in Rashi and Tosafot. What exactly tzuvah genuvah means, but this was all Torah that we spoke about on daf nem dal on my days. But in this merchatz we speak out one ha'arah, and this is really a ha'arah on daf gemara nem dal on my days. Also, it's going to tie in a few things that we spoke about earlier in the mesechta. That is, the Gemara in meseches Chagigah daf yud gimmel amud aleph says, "Umar Rabbi Asi, ein mosrin divrei Torah l'oveid kochavim." You're not allowed to teach Torah to an oveid kochavim. She'ne'emar, it says, "Lo asah chen l'chol goi, u'mishpatim bal yeda'um." We say it every day in pesukei d'zimrah. A is not allowed to teach Torah to an oveid kochavim because it says, "U'mishpatim bal yeda'um." You're not allowed to notify him of the laws of the Torah. And it's for that reason mitunash full land tight Why did have to be a layman on the car? And is not allowed to learn Torah. If a then would learn Torah, he would be violating an issur. If that's the case, a yid should not be able to teach Torah to an over carbon because by teaching Torah to an over carbon, you're causing him to learn. You're causing him to do something that he's not allowed to do. And we know it says in the Torah lift the evil to mix all. So they don't understand what do you need a possuk of also who is part of my done to teach me that you're not allowed to teach Torah to an over carbon. Typically, a himself is not allowed to learn Torah. Why not? I sat the Torah is like me, so and if that's the case, by you teaching him Torah, you're being over with the evil to mix all. Now, is there an issue with the evil to mix all when you marshal a to do an avera? Um, yeah, that's the whole beginning of the second of the Torah. We know that. He bought a little in the Torah according to one side with the evil TO MIX ALL. CUZ IT SAYS with the evil to mix all. No, there's no evil to mix all when it comes to a It's fake news. We know the Torah typically with the evil to mix all. Typically, you have to say it's an easy answer. It's talking about where if you weren't going to teach Torah to this over carbon, there was someone else that was going to teach him Torah. And we know the only time there's with the evil to mix all is when you're coy betray where if not for you this person would have no ability to do the but if this person could do the even without you over there there's no come it's why not where you not betray so now there's no a few there's a new of and but them value them the history of it and this tomorrow I think it will be all of says that you can miss the feeling maybe you can say another that's it the difference is that the fact that you have to take some of it all of it and it brings them a car that a guy is not allowed to learn the fact that he learns is this more than that how do I know that it's learned that because it says in the Torah it says all of it is sure my question is if it was given to us it wasn't given to the but the brings them what exactly the is one says Torah all of it is sure my question is my question is it's all of it is sure it's ours and as a result if a guy is going to go ahead and he's going to learn Torah he's stealing something that's ours that was one of the things that and for that reason this is going to be a problem but there's another one another one says that the reason it's a problem is not because of but rather I'll take away my question all of it is all of it is sure it's like a lot of things that you can do a guy that learns Torah it's all of it is all of it is sure it's not all of it is sure that one of the things that you can do it's all of it is all of it is sure it's all of it is all of it is sure that one of the things that you can do says the all of it is all of it is sure there would be enough to mean all between whether or not the reason is not allowed to learn Torah or is not allowed to learn Torah inside of is my Russian Russia or is it Russia? You know what enough Kamina is? If a Yid wants to teach a Torah. If it's out of gazzle then it's like gazzle. Gazzle is when you take something from somebody but if I'm willing to give it to you then it's not going to be gazzle. But if it's a rise because so who cares if I want you to I don't want you to. You have an arise and based on that it's going to be awesome. So said the Shag and say half of a fellow yesh loima there of Ami in this Kamora here that said A Moshiach over he holds like the man of Mar in this hedgerow that why is a not allowed to learn Torah? He's not allowed to learn Torah because of gazzle. If it's out of gazzle so it'll be awesome for a to learn Torah but if a Yid teaches him Torah there's no awesome. So if the is not doing it then certainly there's no favor to no one IS DOING ANYTHING WRONG. COME ON THAT EVEN though we said the awesome of a learning Torah this is not a problem. Why not because the is a gazzle is there and we are doing a few more here. Why also the whole guy who MUST MY DOG BUT BASED ON THE AWESOME OF A LEARNING TORAH it's not going to be a problem. So said the Shag and say half of a fellow Ami over here with the gimmel is going to go like that man on the hedgerow on test that call your my kind of Shalom half of a fellow does not Shag and say said the Shag and say that the emissaries that could be it could be it's a little bit more this way. And the reason is because you find Kamoras and shots with the Tanoim and all of these talked and learning without the Kamora. They talked and learning with all of the Kamora and he says if you want a good example of this take a look at the Torah show Proclus versus and we all give them a share for the ages. He managed goals and he starts with him and learning and declaring managed a little share he gave him and if that's the case I don't understand what's going on here. I told you not a letter talking learning with an he's not allowed to learn Torah and if he's not allowed to learn Torah then for sure you shouldn't be able to teach him Torah and what happened to as long as he says you have to say that that should be going to the man of that holds that what's the of the the of the of the Torah is and being that you're teaching it to him so for that reason it's not going to be I think the what about a motion of the Torah because it says that the of the Torah is the Torah of the Torah that's still going to be a of the Torah so he says I want to say he says that it could be that is only a problem if you go and you volunteer the information to the but if he asks you a question that the Torah of the Torah that maybe something that's okay but the says that if you're going to tell me that the was not allowed to learn Torah also his own then there should be no he asks you he doesn't ask you he's not allowed to learn Torah he can't take in the words of the Torah and if he can't take in the words of the Torah and you're going to go ahead and you're going to teach it to him you're going to be the of the Torah the Torah the Torah says says the according to one of the Torah of the Torah there is no problem of the Torah all there is is a motion of the Torah of the Torah for that I can hear a says the between if he asks you or if he doesn't ask you in the case of the of the Torah of the Torah he asked them and being that he asked them in that case it's going to be different either way I can't do it sorry if you want to look it up inside it's in the Torah you give there's a lot more there actually very relevant the volume of the floor young I am shocked. I just want to maybe be moist of one hour as it relates to cash again but said what do you have to come on to a new typically and if that's the case then if you teach it to me you have to do it this way because you have to have them as I said and the cash prices that it's talking about where it was not really in a hurry I said that it would go according to that holds that it's a if you teach it to him there's no reason that's the case you would have to come on to a new but maybe we can go with a third and this is based on we spoke about a week or two ago time flies when we spoke but I about the sheet of of the same so far regarding whether or not the no yacht is mother on sheet of so we know now that we know what it is it can't even be over the sheet of the car is the car so we can see what it is it says what we know built and from built we learn if you have to do it which is what we was a sheet of because they weren't denying they were being they were being the and the big word that we seemingly maybe all I addressed in different places and the same talked about that is who has is mother on sheet of this is something we already did a few bites on I the income that's not what we need from here. But we did all the way back when we spoke specifically about the sheet of the as it relates to whether or not a he seems to like the most of the who hold that really is but we spoke out from who was that the sheet of the in the world for sure seem to have been that really is not Muslim he took praise and I just literally we're talking fast here but we've gone through this already several times. One of the that he brought that we went through very very much was the slave and on the who was working with two in the one is the test the other one is the so we went through it already but just be careful. 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Or you get a couple of mitzvahs, or you So, we said no matter when you learn the Sanhedrin, that a is not allowed to learn Torah, is not allowed to keep Shabbos, it's specifically those two things. Don't learn Torah, don't keep Shabbos. But the Rambam took these two and he made a whole Torah out of it. So love it. What seemingly was a prat, the Rambam turned into a klal. And that's mitzvahs or you get every mitzvah all 613, or you have or you that it's not just Shabbos and Torah, but really or you This is what he says the Rambam. But wants to do mitzvahs, why? You could cuz he wants to get and I say I say good stuff. Thank yourself. You want to do mitzvahs, do mitzvahs. The year says the Rambam, I think you know what we do that stuff, we give it to Israel. How do you need or mitzvah right? We have a mitzvah to be so we might as well go and the The Rambam says a that learns Torah, that keeps Shabbos, it's a klal. And that's mitzvah either BE A OR DO WHAT YOU'RE supposed to do. DON'T BE AND DON'T BE in the next of the Rambam wants to do a mitzvah. You can and you probably can't read these two Rambams. You can't read in right? This is a We imagine other on these Rambams and then the said that he asked different people. right? You don't see this every day in the safer. He asked different people and yes, I'm a what was his lotion? He's being He's carving out a path this way. He's carving out a path that way, but no one told me a scuffle. No one said anything was cuz I didn't hear one how to give the truth is if you take a look at the we didn't speak this out last time. You look at the the who was the nice on the mission of the mission of the mission Right here on the side of the he says right away, I think the in the is that the first is talking about with a person wants to be does. The next is talking about the last could be that's the one like you're doing it like the same are you doing it the same that's a problem. I'm a problem this isn't but the didn't like that either. When the said I'm not hearing a so the first said half of the He said the and says guy or some of the he's talking about a guy that's the is talking about a so the a guy someone that's wants to do you GIVE HIM A YOU DON'T LET HIM DO A NO WAY IN THE WORLD. WHY NOT? Cuz when he does his who's he going to have in mind? He's going to have in mind his the and he's going to have in mind the so it's a problem. I you're going to tell me you're going to say it's not true it doesn't only have in mind the he also has in mind why else is he doing the wants to serve God and he wants to serve his right? And oh and the is not so the is not so the first gate to that he wants to do this other let him do it. So the it's true the is not but it's a that the is not the guy the is the seven with the was the is allowed to do the thing that is allowed to do. But anything else that is already off limits. So if he wants to go ahead and he wants to do mitzvahs as an akkum, as an over the avodah zarah, why not go ahead and let him? And the Rambam doesn't say akkum. He changed one word the Rambam said. He said ben noach. You know what a ben noach is? It stems from Noach Avinu. Right? It comes from Noach. And if you go ahead and you do what Noach did, Noach wasn't an over the avodah zarah. You're doing what the ben noach is supposed to do. You're not being over the avodah zarah. If you're not being over the avodah zarah, so for you already said the Rambam, then the Rambam went right there and said that it's from the Rambam. The Rambam even meant the toshav. Then he said an unbelievable chiddush. You have to be the Rambam to say this kind of rate. Now what's a ger toshav? Ger toshav is a ben noach that's mekabel the seven mitzvahs. Right? That's the Rambam in the Rambam the last of the Rambam. What do you mean he's mekabel the seven mitzvahs? You have to do it anyway. You have to be mekabel something anyways to do. What's the answer? The Rambam says rather you have to go ahead and get again in the vice versa. But the Rambam that's the Rambam. The Rambam always says that a ben noach has to be mekabel the seven mitzvahs. But says the Rambam, I hold that when a ben noach is mekabel the seven mitzvahs and he's mekabel avodah zarah, he has to be mekabel not only not to be over the avodah zarah, he has to be mekabel not to be over the avodah zarah afilu beshituf. That means the of Avodah Zarah is already a ben noach who's not even being over beshituf. If you're not being over beshituf, oh, you want to go ahead and do mitzvahs, you have every right in the world to do mitzvahs. Half of a fellow, right? But comes the Rambam. An unbelievable thing. And this, I don't think we spoke about last time. We said we didn't make a big deal about it maybe fleetingly. And that is what emerges from the Rambam the Rambam is that if a ben noach maybe we did. Wants to learn Torah and keep shabbos, we know the Rambam says in Sanhedrin, no way, right? Absolutely not. But a ger toshav could. Why? Because the Rambam's halacha test is not only true for Shabbos and Torah All of that says which The means OF GET TOSHAV IS ALLOWED TO DO MORE MITZVAHS. Included in the more mitzvahs that the get toshav is allowed to do is he's allowed to keep Shabbos and he's allowed to learn Torah. If you think about it, it's an unbelievable thing. The Gemara says that a a guy is not allowed to keep Shabbos. A guy is not allowed to learn Torah. But the way the Rambam seems to be laying it out is if you does it or the way the Chasam Sofer understood it, cuz he's a get toshav now, so then the halacha is if he wants to he could, right? It sounds at first glance like a like an unbelievable chiddush, right? The chiddush, it sounds like an unbelievable chiddush. Reb Yoke in his Egoism and the Oitches in one of the footnotes, Ben Noach footnotes, he says that Torah of Eitz Chaim Yashaiv, the the precious Drachon's kasha. has a famous kasha that we know the Rishonim talk about the Avos that kept the Torah actually in itself. They had a din of Yisrael, they had a din of Menayach. So how come they probably had a din of Yisrael? The question is what about the kullah? So one of the greatest kashas is we know the Avos kept Shabbos, right? How do we know that? How do we know they kept Shabbos? I think Yakov Avinu know was mesaken chomen, right? So we know that the Avos Akdoishim kept Shabbos. How were they allowed to keep Shabbos? A to Shabbos is chiyav misah. Said Reb Yoke like the Chasam Sofer, it's half of a fellow. When is a not allowed to keep Shabbos? Akum is not allowed to keep Shabbos. O Ben Noach, if you if you're a get toshav, you're allowed to keep Shabbos. Ben Noach should also not do mitzvahs that they are allowed to keep Shabbos. The Avos Akdoishim were allowed to do Ben Noach. I mean that by all of them Ben Noach, they were get toshavs. No question in the world. Even if they're not a Yisrael AND THEY'RE STILL BEN NOACH, they're Ben Noach, they're not Akum, they're get toshav, they're not Akum. So if that's the case, there'd be no problem with them keeping Shabbos. Right, that's always my before. problem is this one issue with this that I'm sorry for himself addresses. I'm sorry for in this in a different place. Until now we're talking Sanhedrin on test. This is I'm sorry for in the This is going to bring us down memory lane now cuz we're going to speak out something very quickly that we spoke about it. We made a huge deal about this in the end of Sanhedrin and that is as follows. The sorry for himself says I have a big problem with this. You know why? Because the more it says in Sanhedrin on test after it says that the guy that keeps Shabbos is Mesa. If that's the case in the seven of This is B'nei Noach. Why is that one of the Shabbos B'nei Noach? The guy can't keep Shabbos. It should be one of the Shabbos B'nei Noach. And the more it says come by say Shabbos Mesa. The more it gets connected. Frankly, I'm sorry for what kind of kasha is that? Seven Shabbos B'nei Noach is the of B'nei Noach never allowed to do it. Shabbos or get twice over allowed to keep Shabbos. SO IT'S PERSONALLY can't be one of the Shabbos B'nei Noach. The more it gets connected. So the sorry for I don't know how to run the Sanhedrin. So the sorry for says during of this. Ready for this? He says like this. It's the Sanhedrin in the Nedorim. That's all I have on the off. The more it says if somebody makes a neder I'm not going to have a no from Shabbos Mesa. I will not have a no from people that keep Shabbos. So the more it says like this. You're not allowed to have a no from a year. You can't even have a no from a Kuti. Says the more it from a guy you're allowed to have a no. So again, I'm not going to have a no from somebody that keeps Shabbos. You didn't say anything about a year. I'm not going to have a no from somebody that keeps Shabbos. So the more it from a year you're not allowed to have a no. From a Kuti you're not allowed to have a no. But you want to have a no from a guy? You're allowed to have a no. So the more it even if the guy keeps Shabbos. Let's say this guy keeps Shabbos. The law is you want to have a no from him? You can have a no. Are you made a neder you're not going to have a no from Shabbos Mesa? And this guy is one of the Shabbos Mesa. So the more it says like this. When a person says I'm not going to have a no from Shabbos Mesa. You know what he means? He means people that are serving voice. People that have an obligation to keep Shabbos and they keep Shabbos. A guy says the Gemara, is an ain omer mitzuba voisa. He's not obligated to keep Shabbos. Even if he keeps it, he's not Meaning in washing on Yom Tov, "had noida mishe say Shabbos" means you're mitzuba voisa. As opposed to ovdei ke chovin, "how would the ovdei" even the ones that do it, "oisa vein mitzuba." They're keeping Shabbos, but they're not obligated, they're not mitzuba to keep Shabbos. And because they're not mitzuba to keep Shabbos, they're not included. Said the Chasam Sofer, "Goyim are not obligated to keep Shabbos?" YOU'RE SAYING GOOD, say better as they used to say in yeshiva. They're not just not obligated to keep Shabbos, they're not allowed to keep Shabbos. Chasam Sofer said something mamish biklal meshuga. He said the Rambam learned up this Gemara and he saw in this Gemara that if a wants to keep Shabbos, maybe good. Maybe good. I think the Gemara says "akum sheshoves chaimisa." And the Gemara said it should be one of the sheva mitzvos bnei Noach. True, that's what that Gemara said, that's what this Gemara said. This Gemara says that you can't say unequivocally without a question that a is never allowed to keep Shabbos. "V'al sefa hana vos" could keep Shabbos. And who's that That's the Ger Tzedek. That's the Rambam in perek yud in hilchos melachim. Where the noish sh'rosha l'as mishe take it in the couple chaim and noish sh'rosha l'as mishe Even as it relates to Shabbos, and that's why the loshon in the Gemara was that the ovdei ke chovin, they're oisa vein mitzuba. Say better, say they're oisa. No, because lav dafka they're oisa. And even the Ger Tzedek ain mitzuba, right? EVEN IF HE KEEPS SHABBOS, IT'S OISA VEIN MITZUBA. AS OPPOSED to a yid who's mitzuba. So says the Chasam Sofer, "I know the Gemara in Sanhedrin on daf sameach alef doesn't shtim with the Rambam. And the Rambam also knew that the Gemara in Sanhedrin on daf sameach alef doesn't shtim with the Rambam. But the Rambam had another Gemara. The Rambam had a good bikias. He pulled out this Gemara in daf lamed alef amud alef and he chapped, "One second. Over here it's mashma that a it's mamish the worst thing in the world. It should even be from the sheva mitzvos. But over here it's only mashma that they're just ain And vice versa, there's a mushka of a that could keep Shabbos, he shouldn't any mitzvah. Who's that a that does it? Now, says the something here's the punchline, see if you remember this. Here's the punchline. So, the Chasam Sofer says to the Ramah two Gemaras. He had a Gemara in Sanhedrin in Tesam Aleph, which is mashma that no way never keep Shabbos. And he had a Gemara in Nedarim Aleph Aleph Aleph, sounds like maybe it's only any mitzvah, but if he wants to get a little kavod from it, maybe he could. So, it's a steer between Sanhedrin and Nedarim. The Ramah said, "I'm paskening like Nedarim." How did the Ramah know to pasken like Nedarim? Maybe pasken like Sanhedrin. So, the Chasam Sofer because of this machlokes between the Gemara in Sanhedrin and Nedarim, we pasken like the Gemara in Nedarim. In fact, the Chasam Sofer says, "If there's a machlokes between the Gemara in Gittin and Nedarim, Nedarim. Kiddushin, Nedarim. Sukkah, Nedarim. Chaireus, Nedarim. Zevachim Menachos, Nedarim. Chullin and Nedarim." He said, "Anytime there's a steer between a Gemara in Nedarim and another Gemara in Shas, Nedarim." Why? So, the Chasam Sofer says, "I'll tell you why. Because Nedarim is the last masechta that Ravina and Rav Ashi worked on. And there's a klal in halacha, we always pasken with the basra, with the second lishana in the ikka d'amrei, right? We always go with the last. And Nedarim was last, and that's why we pasken like Nedarim." Now, when did we speak this out? It's not a trick question. Which masechta? We mentioned it before, in Nedarim, right? And at the end of masechta Nedarim, we spoke out a nifla digga shtikel from our guy, Rebbi Akiva Chaim Sofer, shlita. So, he said like this. And he said that we know there's an idea that we should have talked about where you sometimes find sugiyos machlifos. There's like two sugiyos, it's like the same sugiyah, but there's some sort of ichlul, like in today's daf, right? There's some sort of difference, there's a nuance, where the two Gemaras come out a little bit differently. Tosefos and different Rishonim talk about this inyan. So, he said like this, he did like a little analysis. He found there's six sugiyos machlifos between Nedarim and Shabbos Eruvin in Shas. And he said all six places the Ramah paskens like Nedarim. And he said it was very chiddush. How did the Ramah know not to pasken like Nedarim? This is my favorite. Then he said he doesn't know how to say my favorite new list. And he said he looked around, right? But it's in the key of and he asked around and no one had a marker to this I'm so far and it must be because he had a cottage. And he said we know that I had a cottage in his learning and he brings other eyes that I had a cottage. The income might be but not for that the the cottage of the hill because I'm so far right. But the bottom line is this is this is the rest of the story. This is where the end of the dawn is meeting us here in Sanhedrin it's absolutely unbelievable. All comes together, right? If you learn long enough then everything ends up stemming. But the bottom line is the top of the that's the end of the dawn that was a dish but culture that the dawn is the last of the he was going in this round up. Look up on the bottom of the round up and we stay on the round up is that even though we know it's not allowed to learn Torah and we know a guy is not allowed to keep Shabbos but a guy is allowed to when it comes to a guy it's different. There's a year later. 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