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just to be makayan
the Indian of finishing the daf with a
kasha. I just want to end with one order
and this is a kasha from Chaim Brisker.
The tame the
and that is
the primary topic of yesterday's daf and
today's daf
was the halacha of rayan.
How did rayan
come involved? Because we had rayan in
the Mishnah. What did the Mishnah say?
The Mishnah said that dam should be the
mayan.
dam kasha. The side of
or if it's the side of the dam or the
dam of the
then the halacha is rayan
of the mayan. So there's an idea that
dam that's the side of the mayan even if
the dam is the mu'at but if you could
see the dam in the taruves the dam
doesn't become battel. What would be if
it was the side of with something where
you can't see it but the only reason you
can't see it is not because there's a
issue. The reason you can't see it is
physically because the rayan of the the
mu'at look the same. But if they would
have looked different you would have
seen it.
rayan as ha
dam or rayan as
and to the extent of it would have been
mayan you would have seen the dam. Well
then right now we're going to say that
the is not going to be right that's
where the halacha of rayan came into the
of
as well.
How did it become a whole issue? It
became a because the brought
as a halacha.
said if somebody would eat a size of
pigel and a size of as a kasha. So the
halacha is
that he wouldn't get malkus. size of
pigel you don't get malkus. size of you
don't get malkus. But if you eat them
together you don't get malkus.
So the said talking about a case where
it was
Being that it's
so there's no time physically no time by
me. So if there's no time that's where
it's going to be halacha.
Even if there's no time but what
happened to rayan? In our Mishnah you
see there's a concept of rayan.
What should the rayan be? The rayan
should state that if you have a taruves
of two different machalois
where they taste the same and as a
result one can't be time to the other
but we should say rayan as if they were
in a minute.
And
say that in the event that had they been
in a minute the
would have been time in the life. Well
then the halacha is that the shouldn't
be battel. So that was the kasha. How
could
say that there's no time allowed when it
comes to in a minute? There should be a
halacha of time. Based on the halacha of
rayan triggered a whole
issue.
That is the question.
The following kasha. said why is it
that if you have a taruves of dam and
mayan just to pick a case
we have mayan
a mu'at of dam but you could see the dam
in the taruves. Why is it that the
halacha is that right now the dam is not
battel?
I could see it. That's why it's not
battel. So what I could see it. Why is
seeing the dam a reason to be battel?
The reason is said Chaim because in
order for something to be battel it has
to be battel. You have to see it as
being insignificant in the taruves. To
the extent that you could see it so it
is significant. And being that it's
significant said
it's for that reason there's no battel.
Meaning the fact that you could see it
said
is a minute
that it's there
and if that's the case
if that's the case it makes sense that
it should be battel. What's the reason
that if you have a taruves
of a
and a
and you can taste the mu'at. The halacha
is that the mu'at is not battel. It's
based on the of time kicker. And was in
safer that the halacha of time kicker is
that the was
that that just like if you eat a
of
you have a issue if you eat something
that has the time of that you're also
over
issue. The
of of time kicker is not that because
this time so maybe well there's no
battel. The of time kicker is time
kicker is a new day. Time kicker issue.
So said Chaim the issue the issue is
mayan that would be very very
that we should say rayan when it comes
to matter but we shouldn't say rayan
when it comes to time. What's the
reason? By matter the whole reason where
you could see the dam in the taruves
it's not battel is because the fact that
you could see the taruves is a that it's
a issue so if it's a issue
you can't be
this there's too much of it in order for
you
says Chaim said that that's not only
true where I could physically see it but
that's also true if I could or would
have should have seen it. Because the
whole of rayan is it's a
minute it's a minute that there's too
much to be battel. Now in this case I
don't see in the forest. Who cares I
don't see in the forest. But I know from
rayan I know with my
glasses I know just based on the concept
that if they would have been two
different I would have been able to see
it. That means there's too much of it
over here. There's too much of it to say
battel. So therefore even when I can't
physically see it I'm going to say
battel. Now is it a leap of faith? Of
course it's a leap of faith. It's the of
rayan.
There's no one that's going to debate
that rayan is a issue.
rayan rayan is a issue. I hear the of
this. The of it is that being that if I
would be able to see it it'd be too much
of it for there to be battel. So it
makes sense to say that even when I
can't see it but I know there's enough
here that if the co The only difference
is the color is off. Okay so for that
for the color I for that already I could
say rayan. And like this the halacha
would be that we would say that there's
no battel even if it's a minute. But
time kicker the whole of the time kicker
is is that there's a new issue called
time. Well if I don't taste it then you
don't have the new issue. So maybe taste
it there should be rayan when it comes
to time. The and the kasha held that if
you say rayan by matter you have to say
by rayan by time. asked this great
kasha. Could be matter and time kicker
issue. Matter is so that it shouldn't be
a battel. Time is a new issue.
Where all it is is a minute that it
shouldn't be battel. Maybe for that you
say rayan. Makes a lot of sense it's
very logical you should say rayan. If
however we're dealing with time which is
a issue either you have the issue you
don't have the issue. By
I don't have the issue I can't taste the
issue. So to the extent that I can't
taste the issue rayan as if I could
taste the issue doesn't make any sense.
Where it's a minute that there's too
much of it to say battel. So I know for
a fact that I have the that wouldn't be
battel if it was a minute. So if it's a
you also shouldn't be battel. That makes
sense.
Albeit with the and the institution
known as rayan. But when it comes to
time not. Now there's a big that we're
assuming in this kasha.
And that is that there's a fundamental
difference between how matter works and
how time works. Specifically matter is
just a reason that there shouldn't be
battel as opposed to time is not that it
shouldn't be battel but it's an issue
and safer is very how exactly time
kicker works. seems to come out that
there's two of them. There's two of them
when it comes to time. Side there's a
new issue there's an
issue but also time is like
and just like by matter
just like by matter there's a that if I
could see it that's a reason it
shouldn't be battel by time there's also
reason it shouldn't be battel. Would
that answer kasha? The say not so fast.
Because if there's two of them by time
you probably need both of them by time.
You probably need both of them by time.
The way the say it is the only reason
time is a that it shouldn't be battel is
because the was an issue again there's
so much to talk about that's why we're
leaving it as a kasha. But this is
definitely a kasha how you do a here in
the of rayan.