בענין אם עלו לא ירדו ולחמו של מזבח (ב)

just to end with one and really it's going back to the ra that we spoke about yesterday and really it's very I think in terms of understanding so again the objective of this rabbite is not going to be to take the thought to the finish line but it's just to open up the conversation a little bit we mentioned yesterday that the very very first reaction is fully loaded. And in that one line, it's not even a full line, it's a half a line of rash. There's tremendous specifically the first words of Rashad. So we said that the that it sounds like from that meaning that's that touches the is going to be is going to be that it gets the perices is that not only is the royal when it's but the iso even when it's possible and the that it's that the even though the area where the thing that went on the isle but it's equally or maybe even more so when the thing that went on the is but the said have one from that we learned yesterday was discussing the of the said any animal that goes on the alive is you have to take it off the thought that the animal that went on the live that the Mishna said is a kosher animal and the was bothered it's so posit that if a live animal goes on the said must be the is not what's in the but rather what's implied from want to bring a riot is but the bottom line is that the held that it's that if you would have a kosher live animal that would go on the would be said why is it why is it so the reason it's that is because why leave it there? It doesn't make any sense. If you have a double pussle, it makes sense to leave it there because if you take it off, you won't be able to put it back on because but if it's for sure you should take it off because I'll be able to put it back on anyways. I mean to leave a live animal on the is very right. Even though we know let's say even is considered all the but right it's first it's not thing it's thing why would you leave it there the only reason says rashi to leave it there ever is because I won't be able to put it back on but here being that I'll be able to put it back on there's no reason to leave it there but said the briskov what do you see from rashi you see from rashi that Rashi seems to hold that doesn't make sense that should be the reason it doesn't make sense is because predicated on being that over here there's no reason it should be the problem is we have a rash because rashi in the beginning of the per says which in brisk is mash it's an obvious dick I don't think you have to be a brisket to make this dick that kasher would be subject of Yeti when he was the specific one seemed to say that anything that's being that it doesn't make sense that should have yesterday we mentioned what they say in that when Rashi said he didn't mean has a but rather Ordinarily only has a to go ahead and to be as relates to seems to be very clear from the that is not subject to the it's not subject to the of just to say when the says the and apostle is a kosher butle but not a doer. I saw in the safer from says to this steer which I think is to go through a little bit because it it goes to the gut and the core of understanding a little bit better what we're doing here in perhoping is dy and that is as we mentioned yesterday that Rashi continues and Rashi says the is that the gives this to now become so what do those words even mean? So the biscar was and it's really based on and it's based on second me on the bottom of the base where said that even though but that's only true if it was once it's once this do apostle goes into the fire at that point is that just was that the and now is based on the idea that there's two that you have in a carbon the regular classic is you're bringing a carbon so you have to be the you and you with some of the rest of the right if it's a different type of carbon it's a different but the bottom line is that there's to take that of the carbon and go ahead and be it that to the extent that you have the buster of a carbon that now makes contact with the fire. The minute it goes into the fire, it gets a new that is you have a to be not because it's part of a and the Torah says you have a to be of the carbon you have to be because it's and you have to be yesterday we spoke a little bit more about what this means. One that's that they say in Brisk is that the regular is the is not it's only a carbon has a to do this with this part of it that with that part of it being it's and when you're it's being in the overall carbon the is not even the carbon it's only it has no nex to carbon anymore. It's you have no ability to go ahead and be it's a and it's not even it's only but the bottom line is said that when is a new that's once it makes contact with the with the fire of the it's what's known as the of said that what Rashi means when says not leave it on the is that it's however not the of the regular mitzvah the carbon, but rather the kiddes was that there's a den now of which the other haktar now just to be clear that other hak happens when it's in the fire like all hakar happens when it's in the fire right obviously ly and it's called the of when it's in the fire and it was already at that point the is so in that even if it falls off the you have to put it back on when the go on the it's to go ahead and do the of but the didn't start yet. And because the didn't start yet, it's only going to be where it's on the MB to go ahead and do it. But if it falls off the misb is not going to be to go ahead and put it back on. But the bottom line is that what's in is not don't take it off the but rather what's it's of this is the way the brisk explained. So let's think a little bit now. just gave tremendous additional meaning to I think if you ask the man on the street what does mean he would say that if you have something that touches the gets you can't take it off the misb I can hear that like you go into the you're stuck you can't leave what are you going to do now right you're stuck once you go on the misb at that point you can't get off You have too much. It's right. You're not let go. That's not the That's not the right. That's what the of. So here's the question. So where does the of the fit into the equation? Meaning I thought before the brisk that is just like a regular now let it take this thing that's so very that's always what I thought it turned it into a superus no which so what then is the of the why can't I take it off the let me explain explains a little bit better. If is a din okay so let it have a let me take it off the when I want to put it back on the I'll be that where does the fit in if the is where it fits in that's what it is that is the of the is but is saying the t of kdesh is not loyer the t which okay so then what is the what is it what is it I think it's and it could be this is even the that the is being that but when it's off the it doesn't have the anymore we mentioned the grace of yesterday shared that it could be once it blows off the mbah it doesn't even have kesh muzz anymore it's gaya when you're making physical contact that's when it has the kesh but the minute it's not making physical contact not right let's go with that side which seems to be the more side so once you're telling me once you're telling me that the kesh it only has when it's on the but when it's off the not well if that's the case then has to be iso the reason there has to be is because if I'm going to take the imamim off I'm going to be and that's not something I'm allowed to do. It's the Scottish Indian. So what's this business that we don't stop talking about? It's because from the fact that there's a there has to be AN ISO BECAUSE IF I'M GOING TO TAKE it off, I won't be able to put it back on because I'm going to lose the kushian. I can't take a double puzzle and put it on. So I'm going to lose the I'm going to lose the kadusha. If I'm going to lose the kad there has to be a so of is the it's because there's a AND I only have the because I'm touching the and the minute I'm not touching the I won't have that anymore. So there has to be an isol because if I'm going to remove it, I'm going to be the So the is don't GO AHEAD AND BEAR ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU can't just go ahead and take a carbon that has to bring that's what the is. So you want to know what is doing? It's giving me a is because to the extent I'm going to be mated, I'm going to lose that and that's not something I could live with. That's not something that's tenable. holds holds that is true even also holds there's no when it comes to the is not the said is what it's that it's what and on that it's going to be true even FOR A DOUBLE WHY EVEN FOR A DOUBLE puzzle kosher can't a double BECAUSE A DOUBLE IS TO BECOME WHY NOT if a double ple gets kish why should a double cushion not what's the problem the problem is actually said that when the mission says if the animal would go alive and it's a animal is going to be freak because it's that if you have a freerov how going to be part that it's going to be if you tell me is true even and the dinner is how I'm going to be part that it's what's going on OVER HERE NEVER SAID THERE'S NO WHEN IT COMES to never said that there's no said there's no it's positive there's no because the is from that is a why is there because if you're going TO TAKE IT OFF YOU THAT'S ONLY TRUE BY BUT I CAN FIGHT TO PUT IT BACK ON THE I'M NOT BEING NOTHING IF I'M NOT BEING nothing if I'm not being nothing if I'm not being nothing well then if that's the case so why should there be a den of rashi in the beginning of the peric when rashi is telling when rashi is telling the of that it's I feel a true for there's no reason shouldn't have that come who said anything about double apostle it should be true for a des as well like the raish it's even more relevant when it comes to a dasher than it is when a double apostle I rash wasn't talking about the rashhe was talking about he was talking about the diner that's what rashi was talking about and being that rashi over was talking about the well as it relates to there's a that comes that derivative there's no reason that should BE TRUE BY CUZ THAT'S ONLY because I'm being why am I being because I have no way to put it back on well over there I do have a way to put it back on so that reason it shouldn't have been I discussed this with my son this morning and he told me that the reason they don't learn this way in brisk is parit Because the of from the beginning of the peric to the end of the peric and really from the beginning of kachum to the end of kachum is that's the it's means now you want to reconcile these two tights that come from that madesh gives a like said and madesh creates an isol you can figure it out but to say that the holiest sight is from where the whole that's the whole per it's very very dark and that's why they don't like to learn this way in fact if you look at the first so why is A there's two of the fact that it says in theory. Okay. So laying out the law of land. This is Rash's kele. He's giving you the over here. But if a read is like a sif you only have the kdish when you're on the mak and if you take it off you're going to lose the kish you're GOING TO BE OKAY TELLS ME IN THE NEXT MISHNA THE MISHNA later this is telling it to me anyways so when you get to it we'll get TO IT THAT'S LIKE A PR THAT'S NOT THE CLOUD THAT'S THE pr the is the is the there's two that come from number is number two and each one is a cloud. They're both to say the is only because I'm being it's beautiful. It's half of a it's not the over here and it's he said that's why in Brit or the very least they very very much with this deashi just to add one there's another rashi and this rashi is in I think this is in Listen to carbonel. This is the same rash, right? It's the same but the same as the beginning says carbon not carbon now first of all says carbon ple the same dick that we have in the beginning we have in that's so the whatever you're going to make out that rash you're going to make out of this. But here and he didn't say the magic words. He didn't say all said was carbon unless he's going to say that's what means to be not to stay to give it a but this girl made such a big deal about this that left out those words. It's the same ratch and it certainly brings out that of the either way this is again we will mock them it's just a little bit thoughtprovoking light isn't but so where does fit in like how do you make all this all of a sudden the leer is feeling a little left out right I thought I'm the over here it's all about Loier. Now all of a sudden we don't even know where he fits in. He's the odd man out of stickles. That's part of the Again, just putting it out there.