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The third ara.
And this is the last final but the most
important ara and something we've spoken
about already.
In the course of Masochist Vachon.
Let me read it in English. What does
that mean?
The Masochist Vachon the apostle.
Even the word just grammatically
speaking is a little tricky. What does
this
mean? So I think it's good
to just go through this for a minute.
And that is in the Masochist Vachon you
see these two levels. There's Masochist
Vachon.
Stating that Ulo's second big memory
today's daf.
I will Masochist Vachon over there the
is. That it's it's going to be yellow.
There's two levels in the world of
Masochist Vachon. There's one level
where the thing touches the Masochist
Vachon.
When it's Masochist Vachon now already
we ratchet it up a whole another level.
Now it's
now it's
so too it's going to be
it's going to go in the reverse. Now
it's going to be a year to year. That
means there's two levels over here.
There's the level of
and
That's when it's just calling a gay of a
Masochist Vachon. And then there's where
it's Masochist Vachon where it's even
more than that. Now it's not only going
to be a Masochist Vachon. Now it's going
to be a Masochist Vachon as well. If you
take a look at Rashi on the base.
Called as long as it makes a little bit
of contact then
cuz at that point it becomes Masochist
Vachon.
It's before
that the
is that when it's
at that point it becomes not so much
because of that.
And it sounds like the reason it's now
going to be not only
in
is because when
becomes
not so much because of that. Now it has
a
only from
also has a from the yellow which would
imply then if the work through this
whole process that where it only touches
the back and it wasn't not so much
because of that. At that point it's not
yet not so much because of that. At that
point all it is is has some sort of
but not so much because of that. This is
when it becomes not so much because of
that which happens when it's not so much
because of that in the fire. At that
point not only is it
it's going to be
yellow as well. When it only touches the
so there the
is not enough for a
because it's not not so much because of
that yet. It's going to be
that we spoke that's the first of the
three hours but the bottom line is
there's two levels. There's the
yellow level and then there's the
yellow level. They're both in all the
yellow.
Sometimes you can put it back on
sometimes not. When it's not so much
because of that then you put it back on
when it's not not.
That's possible right? I don't think we
said anything great we're just learning
the the a little bit with a Rashi that
once it's not so much because of that
not so much because of that and at that
point it's not only going to be
it's going to be yellow as well. One
other
and that is
we spoke at this
about
that
and this is
how much the we're learning right now.
He said
What's the gather of all this
that when it's not so much because of
that it's not so much because of that.
Rebbe Chaim put stuff out. One side
Rebbe Chaim had was that the get there
is that once it's mushlam menor or the
psul goes away. And being that the psul
goes away, so now you can go
l'chatchila, you can put it on the
mizbeach cuz you change them all the
year to kach mi'yad to ya'av, right?
Because the mushlam menor, the fire of
the mizbeach, the eish of the mizbeach
has an ability to go ahead and mamish
make make psulim completely go away. Oh,
yesh limah said Rebbe Chaim, the get
there of mushlam menor where the din is
going to be a mi'yad to ya'av is not
because the fire of the mizbeach makes
the psul go away. The psul is still
there.
Natla mishlam mizbeach means mid the
psul, with all your chesronos, with all
the meshugasim, you still have a din to
go on the mizbeach. That's the eitzah.
The eitzah is that you become lach
mishlam mizbeach is a new parsha that's
known as aktaras psulim, said Rebbe
Chaim. It's klavi detag that you have
the tzeita din. How do you know you have
the tzeita din? Because the Gemara had a
manda d'masni seifa. Rebbe Chanina mi
Sura said that Ula's Halacha was said
not regarding the mishna that we learned
already, but the mishna that we're going
to learn. The mishna that said "Hasamos
gidim v'atzamos v'eifaim", the Halacha
is that if it's pure shul, ordinarily
you don't put it on the mizbeach, but if
it was mushlam menor, then yeah. Said
Rebbe Chaim, "Gidim v'atzamos have no
psul. There's nothing pasul about it
that says you can't go ahead and be
makdir it."
What is the metzius of gidim v'atzamos?
They're chaser in that they don't have a
din haktara. There's no psul haktara,
they just don't have a din haktara. They
don't have a din haktara. And I feel
like it's m'vuar, once it's mushlam
menor, at that point natla mishlam
mizbeach is a din haktara. Said Rebbe
Chaim, "It's muchrach from here that
mushlam menor has an ability not just to
remove chesronos, but to actually give
you a din haktara." Meaning, what's the
haktara of gidim v'atzamos? It doesn't
make any sense.
Bishvil me im murim psulim, the chesron
of the mirror is not total. Not us, not
their apostles. You'll tell me maybe it
removes it. But
about Thomas don't have a factor. So
what's this been now? Put it on the
back. Must be one something is in the
fire of the in the clutches of the back.
Now it gets it in hot water. That's when
the meat and now there's a thing to go
ahead and be mad. I'll bring you another
riot.
There's a thing of
There's a thing of luck in the back.
There's a thing of luck in the back
What's the problem with the
Why can't you put them on the back? Cuz
it's a rigger. How would luck in the
back give you a that you lack? There's a
thing of
it's the It's long. Okay, so this
removes the It removes long. But
said when it comes to
it's not that I have something I'm not
supposed to have. I'm lacking something
that I need. How's luck If luck in the
back is like a ball? Right? Think about
it. That's what it sounds like. It's a
Muslim and it's like a ball. It's like
some super duper hot ball. Okay, so you
can be mad with me from today till
tomorrow. If you mad with something
glass 100 times over, it's not going to
become expensive China. Right? It's not
going to turn into gold or silver.
Right? It don't work that way. Is a lot
of luck in the back? So if I'm going in
and I'm being mad with something that
was felt in the rigger How's that going
to give me a rigger? So I'm saying it's
from there. That together there is for
sure a thing when it comes to luck in
the back that it's not simply removing
them.
It's giving them a thing. So I'm saying
it's from the Thomas and the fire and
from this back down and from other It's
more This is the way it works. This is
That's the game.
Them came
The who I did for who I time the whole
of them hold them
Cuz it gets a total factor that it can
talk about over there. Where it becomes
a lot of luck in the back. But I'll go
put him in the board of kind of my chef
that he saw the kind of my chef the side
that once it's motion and we're at that
point it becomes blackness of his back.
So he's saying marriage, it literally
becomes something that's part of the
miss back which is my kind of a new part
of Zachariah. Right, explain it one more
time in a different because this is very
critical.
Usually when you talk about the part of
a carbon, so together of the part of a
carbon is I have a carbon after do
things with the carbon. I have to do a
kind of with the down and she tried with
the down. I have to do a kind of with
the bus. I have to do a kind of with the
a moment. There's a regular part of
Zachariah. What's the kind of the part
of Zachariah? I brought this carbon and
one of the mix with the part of this
carbon is to go ahead and do a kind of
with certain parts of this carbon.
Blackness of his back is a kind of
Zachariah that's coming from a whole
different place. It's a different kind
of Zachariah. It's a different part of
Zachariah. It's
a different kind of Zachariah of
Zachariah. It's not oh, I brought a
carbon and part of the carbon is a
moment and moment I have to go ahead now
and I have to be marked to those moments
on the miss back. It's that I have
something that's blackness of his back.
The fire already, you know, started
eating it. The blackness of the miss
back, right, the a crumb fell out of the
mouth of the miss back. Come here you
have to go ahead and you have to take
and you have to put it back on. The kind
of the part of Zachariah is not to have
to bring the kind of moment of
Zachariah. Oh, it's feeling all the miss
Zachariah. No, the kind of this is
blackness of his back. The kind of
Zachariah is a kind of Zachariah that
was a kind of Zachariah that was back.
Now when it comes to the kind of
Zachariah it's only to fix here. When it
comes to blackness of his back it's true
even from the bottom and that's that's
all the Zachariah. But that's that's the
Zachariah. That's what blackness of his
back is. He said more than this. He said
more than this. What's miss back
McCarty?
Miss back McCarty is one step before
blackness of his back. The Zachariah of
miss back McCarty is like Rashi says,
"Kind of Zachariah miss back Leo says
blackness of mine." When something
personal touches the mizbeach,
it gets a din haktara. What's this din
haktara? Not the din haktara from a
regular parsha of haktara because it's
pasul. You can't be mekayem that haktara
with something that's pasul. Just like
you can't do a zrika with a davar pasul,
you can't do haktara with a davar pasul
either. But it gets a din to make it
lachmei shulchan mizbeach. Now it's not
chali yet the haktara of lachmei
shulchan mizbeach because it's first
going to be lachmei shulchan mizbeach
when it goes into the fire.
But it has the kedusha
where now there's an obligation to go
ahead and make it lachmei shulchan
mizbeach. Lachmei shulchan mizbeach it
will be when it's in the fire.
And once it's in the fire, now it's
going to have that toras haktara. When
it touches the mizbeach, it gets a din
to become lachmei shulchan mizbeach. So
mizbeach mekadesh the din of korban olah
gam mizbeach yiktash is very much
talking to Ulla's halacha of mushlin or.
In fact, you know what came first? It's
almost like mushlin or came first. Being
that there's a mussig of when it's
mushlin or it's not so lachmei shulchan
mizbeach, which if Chaim learned up
there's a new parsha of haktara called
lachmei shulchan mizbeach dig haktara,
it's for that reason now there's a
parsha of korban olah gam mizbeach
yiktash of kimcha d'avona yairdu which
states that when the davar pasul goes on
the mizbeach, now it has a din to become
lachmei shulchan mizbeach. So a mizbeach
mekadesh is on some level a din haktara.
Right? It's not just leave it there,
said the Brisker Rav.
It's also not now I can go ahead and be
mekayem the regular toras haktara. No
way in the world you're not going to be
able to do that. What it is is it's a
new parshas haktara.
New parshas haktara. Who stated that I
have parshas haktara? That's Ulla's
halacha of lachmei shulchan mizbeach.
That parshas haktara by the way is is a
much more upgraded parshas haktara. That
is not only a din of am al yairdu,
that's a din of am afelu am yairdu yalo.
Right? That's mamasha toras haktara. the
misbech is mikadesh, it gets a din to go
ahead and be mikayem the lachmis of
misbech the hakdora. So, when the
misbech touches the double pasul, it
gets a din hakdora. What's the din
hakdora? Make it lachmis of misbech.
It's not lachmis of misbech yet. It's
going to become lachmis of misbech when
it goes in the fire. How do I know it's
not lachmis of misbech yet? Because when
it's going to be lachmis of misbech,
it's going to be a merudalo. And now
it's kashash merudalo.
So, it's not yalo yet, but it got a din
hakdora. To a din hakdora to do what?
Yena hakdora to lachmis of misbech.
Which of Chaim was mechadesh in sefer is
a new parshas hakdora. What was his
raya? His raya was from gidin at somes.
His raya was from nishpach domam. And he
said if that's the case, in arelo chairo
parshas to who I didn't know I done the
That's always the way it works. There's
a new I know there's a new parshas
hakdora. The site of a merudalo is now
it gets a din to go ahead and do that
hakdora. Is there ever a mitzius where
I'm going to have a din to do the
hakdora of lachmis of misbech? The
answer is yes. Where is it? Misbech
mikadesh. That's what it is. So, misbech
mikadesh is not just leave it there.
That's for sure not what it is. It's
also not I can go ahead and do the
regular of the hikter. No way. How can
you be makta with a double pasul? No
retzui that's coming from this hakdora.
I value not going to be able to do that.
What it is is a din hakdora.
Not just leave it there, but not the
regular din hakdora. It's the hakdora
mechudeshes. What's that hakdora
mechudeshes called? It's called lachmis
of misbech. When does it become lachmis
of misbech? When it's mashal ben or. Now
it's not lachmai. Now it gets a din to
become lachmai, which is just another
way of saying a din to do this hakdora
psula. That's Rashi's loshon. A filu
d'double pasul sh'al d'misbech.
Cut kishra misbech liyosais lachmai. It
didn't become lachmai, but the chefts of
the kidesh is go make a lachmai. That's
what it is. Go do a lachman de gach ta.
Don't let's just leave it there. Go
ahead and do a lachman de gach ta. The
one who are that has to be jumping
through the zoom right now. This is one
hour. And that is that we're saying that
the mahaloch of ham is back with kaddish
works is is
it's mikadish it. So it
you should have a din hak torah to go
ahead and do a lachman de gach torah.
It's not lachman. It's first going to
become lachman where? It's first going
to become lachman when you actually have
muscle then or. But right now, right
now, it has a din to become lachman. The
how is this din with Ula's memra? Amar
Ula in column this is double
natsu lachman
It certainly sounds like from Ula. As
soon as they move them going to the back
becomes lachman. You don't have to wait
until it's muscle then or in order to
become lachman. It becomes lachman right
then and there. That was discussing with
them this morning. Said and should they
say that a barrel kasha to the brisker
off and this is
has an ensuing a tremendous tumble with
regards to this kasha. The kasha is a
good kasha. The Ula seemed to say natsu
lachman
yesh
the barrel kasha to my knowledge this is
definitely an appropriate kasha. But at
the end of the day the lachman doesn't
change. The lachman is that the way
kaddish works is it's not just a din
but it's a mikhaia
not the regular
but there it's a mikhaia of this new
parish
and again now that we went through the
three hours let's have a rash. I'm
mikaddish so
I feel possible I feel possible and
certainly kasha. Sounds like there's a
kasha even by kasha. Why would that be a
cuz maybe
it's only
where I won't be able to put it back up.
But if I could put it back up maybe not.
So
even possible call in a game
but for sure
it's It's to be true for kasha. And it's
more foolish that way in Hilchos Lamed
Kufshin Perek Lamed Kuf Lamed the way
the Mishnah Berurah was Medayek. The
Rambam said it's so clear that it's true
even when it comes to Kuf. The problem
is the Rashba come on Perek Lamed Kuf
seems to say not that way. And the way
the Mishnah Berurah learned the Parsha
knew you have to be Matir Kuf maybe I
feel double possible not that there's a
din of Lo Yair Do. But I feel double
possible has a a Pirush Aktor. By the
way I feel double possible. Shalem
Mizbeach Kitzur Hamizbeach Hamizbeach is
Mekadesh it. The Yosis Lachmoi. Not
Mekadesh it just leave it there. And not
Mekadesh it that now I could do the
regular Aktor. The Yosis Lachmoi. I
should be able to do the Lachmoi the
Gaktor. What's Lachmoi? See Rashi on
Perek Lamed Beis regarding the other
member of Ulla. The Imrei Noam
but where is in the Galei Meisa the
Kedusha at the end of the day Mizbeach
Mekadesh in the Galei one thing and one
thing only. It's Negiah of Imrei Noam.
Or because of Lo Yair Do Kachem Yair Do
Lo Yair Do. And here too we have the
grace of Hakira. Is the reason because
it only has the Kedusha as long as it's
on the Mizbeach. Once it comes off the
Mizbeach it loses the Kedusha. So maybe
it doesn't pass anymore Yair Do Yalla.
Or could be the Kedusha comes
comes again to Mizbeach that you're
always going to have the Kedusha. It's
just that the din of the Kedusha the
Pirush the Halacha Lemaiseh that comes
from this Kedusha is only Negiah of Lo
Yair Do. It's not Negiah or in Yair Do
Yalla. Either way we just learned one
Rashi. One Rashi the very first Rashi of
Perek Mizbeach Mekadesh.