Zionism #23- Satmar Rebbe dismissed most stories as hearsay - Culture caused accusing Chabad

so good day we're learning today is days today is your gimmo kiss lift it's air if you download kisliff your dalit kiss lift is the day with the rep and the rabbits and married in Warsaw Poland so it's appropriate that tomorrow probably neither we will start the next section which is about niftyam and tanks which is definitely the devil's innovation and it's appropriate that we start that um tomorrow also tomorrow night I'll be from bringing here in Hollywood and Chabad School so uh we'll have that available uh for those that would like to participate in the fabranging through YouTube the next day or whatever but here we're learning an interesting thing some of you weren't here yesterday the the unpaid confused Olive the heading over here is in other words and the person who prepared it uh the safer divided it in sections so it's easier for the reader so this section he names I'm not sure if Abuelo wrote that heading but based on what it what he the letter that section of the letter he gave it a title the reason for concern the reason why some of them etc those who have the hold the shita and what's their shita that has been caught in the web of Zionism and says let's look at the reason why they accuse khabar of being zionistic and he says in addition to that don't think that this is something new but it's already been this way throughout the generations from the rambam to regulations to the balcantov they were always individuals and always groups who had a shot had a concern that their innovation in teaching Tata was heretical the rambam you all know that I've been a year you know who was a great you know individual he burned his had his safer murder guide for reflex Burton the streets because he felt it's heretical and if you're innocent I've ships I believe during the 1700s or the 1600s anyway the latest synopsis was accused of being a follower of shoptite's feet his innovation the what was called later that was not them accused him of heresy says to the person he's writing to the fact that over that there's that you that you make a mistake and you accuse laborator being zionists it's it's it's ready there are people greater people than you that made that mistakes that mistake so number one there's nothing new Under the Sun number two let's talk about the issue itself he says that the the reason why you you accuse the babic is it is because you hear a phrase you hear half of a sentence and based on that you say oh they're just like the zionists and for example he says take the idea of Africa Israel although he sinned he's still a Jew so the zionists used that phrase as we learned earlier in the letter to support nationalism as long as you are an Israeli you could sin and you don't have to do chuva and nothing else is relevant because Israel You're a Jew so they use that as a support for nationalism which is heresy because the real meaning is even even though you've sinned you're a Jew meaning to say not that you should sit not that sin is not important uses the same phrase to embrace hug every single year every single year even though a Jew has gone so far Israel who he's still a Jew why because his his jewishness is his nashama and his nashama is in in explicit it literally it connected to Tata so it's the total opposite approach than Zionism but these have it when they hear the logic of a PC Israel would they say uh it's the same phrase the Zionist you use you're a Zionist this is said in the part of the letter that we learned yesterday that's why it's called the reason for the concern the reason why they are accused the Babbage of being zionists so appeal says my dear friends to the the to these guys he's writing to look at the look at the inside look at what we're talking about and you should know what he's saying here I can tell you for the streets of Borough Park and Williamsburg and Brooklyn Muncie this is true this isn't made up stuff this is the facts on the ground the shallowness that there is in in this community in this area I want to make it clear in this area is tremendous and I'll tell you why this is not part of the letter but I think it's important for you to understand every culture has a way it creates the individual the culture that satma created in Williamsburg and I've told you before and his they were the king the kings of Williamsburg if you didn't cooperate with them you were ousted or your pariah so much so that his uncle oh I'm sorry his nephew the poison of you who did you conceal um no title bound no whatever forget the last name the pleasantburger roof thank you thank you so much so that he uh he he he he he said some things against him and and he became a Parian he was you listen to his tapes they're available online and you'll just keep you'll cry you'll you'll just cry because he cries because he talks about Shabbos in the camps you can't imagine what this this man lived through and God saved him he should have been dead a hundred times he was saying that's you know what's the word that not decimated he was uh he had no food he was bones he was it was total goodness and he wouldn't eat strife and the Miracle happens someone else brought him something that was kosher even he and his people were were insulted embarrassed that he used to send fire trucks to his house and many such things okay so anyone that didn't go exactly along with the Sacrament in Williamsburg you are out right and that created a certain culture part of that culture is and I wrote about this in my book of which it's very important to understand a lot of the things that the sacrament did including kanoias was because he put together he believed you have to make offense in order not to get to Prohibition so in a way in a way he didn't really believe in it if you say that to the soccer I'll smack you in the face but I I I don't mean it I don't mean an arrogant way I mean to say whether or not he considered Zionism heresy 100 percent I'm not sure could be he did but even if he did he didn't seek to to to to to to use the tactics that were used later because his people and as the generations went continued all they were left with is we have to hate the zionists or his sister said the other day what's up my love even if he said that which I'm not sure he did but even if he said it that's not what he meant what he meant is that if you don't put up and and use this kind of frightened tactic Scare Tactics you're going to go all the way over so I put up what's called a gather Justice kazal made giduran right and he'll shop as we learned about ghidoran the satma love made guitarum and he felt that this Durham won't allow you to cross over but but I'm at the bar the average person on the street didn't get that for whatever reason and just walked away with the bottom line and that's what I mean the the shallow this they didn't they weren't trained to in in in this issue in business they're as sharp as you can get and also as um I want to use the right word as I wouldn't do business with them that's what I'll say in business they're the top I mean you guys can't imagine there's something living and they own all companies oil companies oil businesses I mean you're talking about and I say to myself where did they get the experience they're like an executive in a company and compared to a CEO of Exxon and and then you don't know about and they're sitting in in in you know in borrow park or Williamsburg or Monroe so in business they're so the word in Yiddish Hebrew not Hebrews you know what the word means shrewd but when it comes to these issues they're not true at all they're like simplistic the rabbit said this that's the way it is that's all I don't want to do what Joel Khan is doing is doing here Discerning splitting hairs explaining that's all as ramiel said himself that's all you guys say from the Clipper side of clipper so therefore I I share this with you because when we're learning about this issue of the Shad the concern and and and and the accusation that Lubavitch is zionistic and you ask yourself how could you think about his zionistic this is Chabad right you're looking at Chabad this is zionistic I don't trim my bed until my mustache right I don't have frontal here a troop but I wear this ugly black yarmulk this is zionistic I'm the furthest thing from from uh from a clean shaven Zionist or a modern Orthodox Zionist or even Israeli zionists how can you because the zionista get out of your mind and the answer is the sapareba said the shita you go to the castle you're you're already Tafe you're already puzzle and I don't want to hear and in that way they're very very shallow that's what I was saying so you know I know that on the internet people listen to him of heart Ruby Dolphins said soccer shallow yes I said that but I explained it I hope it's clear to everyone so now let's go to the third paragraph on page cool few days and continue inside I know Maisha has a lot to say about what I just said but uh it looks like he's on a plane so um um we'll just leave it for another time because most of you never know you might be sitting near a software behind you who's listening in Ella no okay boy when I come they're gonna have the Stones Waiting For Me Ella bottom of page because they want details is were having now I.E 1980s when he wrote this is not similar to the machlaikus that the beginning and the rambam had or the or the uh against the belshanto and he explains why is the troublemakers succeeded to completely fool that's good daily use snowsho potato who the great leaders of that generation I they give you say the Sheck here by uh by bringing false Witnesses or kia do as is known the historical details until the daily Israel of the time came out with a ruling she told me there about shemtov yes a dean of Heretics God forbid conversely in our situation [Music] this thing is is it it's not gonna happen that you're gonna have you're gonna have this type of ruling I guess the bureau loaded a little early this was a 1980 the 80s right after gimmel Thomas with the Russian Christian then there were certain literature upon him and of course the noted Professor David Berger who did claim and did seek to put out a ban on on on on the beverage that they we are apicuresim and you cannot allowed to drink our wine that given her in our wine and and things like that and the shrita and don't and if you think it didn't for a while have an impact it did there were certain cautious organizations that would not allow Allah I think they they had objections to but at this time when he wrote the letter bill says this would not happen now that a whole group of of people come out and uh daily Israel and say something you're right but Barbies says that that's not that's not happening a second also the idea of getting witnesses to testify the Laboratories are zionists and an apocalism that won't happen as well that didn't happen and that won't happen he didn't he's not saying it won't happen it didn't happen so it see it seems it seems improbable that's that's let's put it that way you said and all the here the the hearsay all the all the gossip or about the Babbage all everything they say about Lubavitch is based only honest stories [Applause] foreign never will be in other words it's pure air made up inflated lies that's what he's saying to the point that even those that tell the lies there they don't say we saw lebovich being zionists with our own eyes they don't say that we heard and we and we heard this we heard that we heard this um yeah for Apple became Miss Goblin eats alive mine we go on to page gimbal top of the page nevertheless the gossip the hearsay the the Russian horror is accepted of Williamsburg coach moose and William's birthday say it's a hundred percent true the Bible the Bible Heretics the rabbit is is a Tiani Etc because they accepted like it was given to Maisha on Sinai final paragraph says this is a great Wonder this is this is surely perplexing you do um it is known and publicized that the hasidim of satma ham is when you tell them a story about Sadiq he needs the first question they have is and this is so true they asked who says it's this way let me just finish the paragraph and then I'll explain a little more then they asked the person who told them the story about this and this topic this this happened they say did you actually see that that you're telling me this story Bible became nevertheless when they're told something about the Bible says they say it surely happened whatever you I was told about the garbage it's exactly that way me please without questioning and delving into it whether it's true or not let me get the back the background here because this is important one of the again in line with what I said earlier which was I shared with you what I believe was the underlying issue for the satma rebel making a gather making offense so that you don't cross over and that also led to the following that he didn't accept and dismissed easily stories and and and and and and Customs he was very dismissive and that led him to what we discussed we mentioned yesterday where in the late 50s early 60s he came out with this statement which which Revel you know caused an outcry especially by the river that didn't forgotten we don't really know what the bashemtas wanted and what he really taught we don't know any of that and the river you test kislav let's get this kiss of next week 1959. spoke for almost an hour it's on tape you have to hear the river cried three times I think during that talk it was so painful for him and he and he and he said over the words he he tell us about centers he he tell us about symptoms this this is the title of Hashem he quoted saying he was saying in other words we know what has what about Hashem this is the tone to know it's the Exodus and the islanimate knows their cities and the piano notes there see this and the Buster knows there see this and everyone know everyone feels that they actually this is no problem and the devil's saying about the Bible and you come along and you say we don't know it was forgotten that came also as a result of his shita of poo pooing stories in other words you're telling me the belshanto used to eat fish shall I show this with this amount of salt I'm giving you an a silly example and I don't even know if it's true right why because this and this Sonic said and his grandfather said and his grandmother said it says what are you hacking a China you know you were there you didn't see it you don't know what you're talking about and I don't believe it and he had this very dismissive approach and this is true and abiot was referring to it right here and again to be malama's course where is coming from although I we believe he's he's wrong in this issue 100 wrong because the Rapid City he's wrong so I follow my rep and also logically he's wrong but have the George Washington did I ever see George Washington did you ever see George Washington know but you go to the Liberty Bell in Philly and you sit over there or you go to to another place um Gettysburg you go to play you're here you don't believe that something happened to you just because it's 200 years later but he was very dismissive now just for the record the brisker are also very dismissive the brisker have a tendency to poo poo stories left and right but I think that there the briskers dismiss dismissiveness is different than the sacraments submissiveness is because by them everything is brisk and there's no value to just saying over stories therefore it's meaningless to them and also because there's such great dichotomy they're so they're so it's so important to them to be precise that's the whole brisk sheet the preciseness the analytical what the queen I can't hear you what not yet Kim no brisk is not no no yeah kiss is another thing no no stop stop take off mute yourself you yourself you ain't immune yourself okay okay mute yourself thank you so brisk is dismissive because it has no importance like but satmer it was like just just because you say it it's not nonsense if that's yoshita why when someone tells you gossiping oh yes it definitely happened you don't say it's dismissive it's not our Escape I wasn't there I didn't see it so he says you're full of it you brush it you know you're when it comes to something that that gives you mileage because it's your done that's what you want oh yes it's true the Bible designers I know they're bowing to the Cross will have though you know so this is the end of this section in which the ribio attacks the the issue of their concern and why it's absurd and ridiculous and it contradicts their own way of thinking so he says come on become honest look at yourself and see that when it comes to everyone else you're dismissive of stories when it comes to the stories you hear about the Babbage it has to be true and when I walk away with with this uh this important uh teaching that we learned today is the following that there needs to be a balance you know my line of work in addition to teaching is writing and history and I I I hear every day stories and and and and words and and and he said this and she said this and it there's an issue the issue is who's saying the truth and who's not and I spent a large amount of time on trying to the best of my ability to discern and to weed out the the nonsense from the truth I'll never satisfy the academics of Harvard and Princeton as I told you about that shabatona I had in Atlanta with four phds Orthodox from shooting darts at me and they invited me for the shabbatome with my on my book of Rob and rabbit because Don Seaman they had the associate professor of Jewish studies at at Emory University is a good friend and he invited me for Shabbos made a Shabbat tone and what impressed the most wasn't my talks which you know were good I think but the fabric Shabbos at Kiddush they never saw such a good thing 150 people in the room never tasted what a real fabrangian is and it by the way it wasn't just a real vibrated because it was a modern Orthodox crowd and a kiddish with a full meal so you can imagine how high in Thousand feels but that was the setting so I went full force and it wasn't a pin drop in the room and I and he told me that that touched them the most from the whole Shabbos and once a Shabbos we had a round table so don was the the the the the um the moderator and I forget the name of another professor who was a Brooklyn boy who learned the Flatbush of Shiva PhD very bright and he was questioning me with Don being the moderator so he said I read parts of your book and it was a specifically on this book and they all had the book before Shabbos and that was their turn to demolish me which you know you could you know by now you know I enjoy that so this was a great experience and it was it really was like tell them from the beginning listen I am not you I'm not an academic and I didn't I I didn't write my book that way I cannot write that in my book and I don't want to write my book that way and if and if you don't like it too bad that's the book what is the book the book is an analysis of two great special people geniuses and and a study and I explained but so this professor says to me he says my dolphin he says I enjoyed reading it and I hear but we in Academia cannot accept stories interviews you know he says that's not our line of thinking our line of thinking has to be logical and solid with logic from every angle and if not it's baloney I said okay that's that's that's why I'm not an academic and I don't want to be an academic I'm a I'm a husset and I want to be a husted and I will always be a hasid and that's the way I write you don't like it don't buy the book no problem but I think there's been thousands of people who are not hasidim who've read the book who are from your camp and and they all they only you know have what they say good about it what am I saying this for I'm just saying this that the issue but oh so so what am I writing am I writing a public book which I don't want to say you know let's learn about some of the more known public you know public publishing house which half of things are Bubble mices the biographies are half lies you know he's the topic and he's the best and he's this this to me is trash this is not good writing I want to hear his difficulties his challenges I want to see how he dealt with challenges with Temptations yeah when I wrote the book I slamma Kyle buff what I the the number one thing that that I gained from it and I shared in the introduction is that that we have we all have a little slam of Carl behind us we all have a little desire for women we all have challenges and how do you deal with that that to me is what's important not to say he wasn't and not to say that that some of his behavior was inappropriate it was but nevertheless nevertheless what he did for Yiddish guide and what and and what he and what he where he was coming from was a very very special place but he had to get Sahara and we have a yay Sahara too that to me is good writing that to me is a good discussion that's a good subject that's a good book but to say no and this by the way was debated and the August Israel they just had the convention of New York this issue and they decide that they are good I was told this by some of their leaders we're just going to put out biographies only positive no negative negative it's not negative when you when you talk about an issue of a struggle and how you dealt with a struggle and how you became who you are today that to me is the most positive thing and if with all humility really I think I've made a little a little dent a little dent in this whole world where I see more and more now are are are are are are being a little more free and saying a little more Chabad for sure because the chabado is that weak too now Chabad Publications they they'll publish things and say things that that uh yeah um right it's just right making of a God all right was was the the the the right but he he was ostracized because he's a kamonesky a son of a Bianco kamenetsky and I was in touch with him a lot and we shared a lot of emails and in fact I saw him and I contradicted him and we had good discussions but a little bent be be honest so here's the question how do you do you believe do you not believe well that's up to the writer that's up to the researcher who he is depending on who you are that's what you're going to produce and I think that there's a balance it'll be oil here I believe is also suggesting that to say that all stories are Ms it's nonsense say that all stories Anonymous is just as much nonsense so even if a story is not Ms but it gives inspiration and it's said in a certain way with sensitivity and honesty we're never going to get it all correct people change first of all the you the memory I I look at myself you know I think I have a good memory but nevertheless as you get older you start forgetting that's why whatever I wrote down in my diary when it happened to me I would say that's that's the way it happened I say to myself not the way I remember my diary now 15 20 years later no what I wrote there is that that's what happened or at least closer to what happened because then it happened I wrote it down right I wrote down my experiences in bed shamish from 2017 2018. that's what happened I wrote it down the way the way it happened now it's 2023 and I'm writing something I want to cite something there so so IL is saying over here that that you know to to you accuse labavage of being zionists no problem prove it prove it and prove it let's let you want to sit down let's sit down and we'll have a debate you understand and this is why this was a very important um part of the letter because this is spills over to so many things today where people will accuse your community of all kinds of things and this shows the truth today with this whole issue of abuse okay I don't want to go off but as much as it's a real issue there's also a lot of people that are troublemakers and they want to bring people down so that's why you have a best then you have a court and you need to be my father you understand I I know the case now it's happening somewhere I can't I can't I don't want to say more where it's mamish and alila's dumb a blood libel against uh an institution a blood label so now they have to hire the best lawyers to defend and they will and they will win yeah we've indicated because it wasn't even in school and it was but the point being is today anyone that can accuse you years ago a friend a Chabad rabbi you know in the early days of sleep is you know we didn't have we did everything ourselves we were the bus drivers we were the rabbis we were the counselors we did everything ourselves that's what says today because you know it's expanded there's more money and different things you have this one helping you that one out so one of the Chabad rabbis I know a friend he was driving home counselors and the next day or so he was accused of either having an affair with the counselor or wanting to have an affair or being seen with a girl sitting in the back seat he's driving do you understand you have to be so careful aimless of herself but that's the real and today it's only quadrupled so it's it's a very very important thing to to to to be conscious of because you're going to be called on it it's just a matter of time and that's the cut that's the current today to to trap people the extortion I'll just give you an example another example my friend sends me a clip of WhatsApp yesterday put out how all there must be I'm starting with the first one of Joel Khan and then others who today you know later changed their they realized that that wasn't the way to go but in 20 um 29 years later from Gible Thomas they put out a video that's flashy and since music with all of these people starting with Gabriel saying you hear the name or whatever you know the oil said I made a mistake my delamis like why should I painted what do you want he said it publicly you need any more he said I made a mistake and you go on their extortion is it so wrong and believe me I'm not from the from the shoots haters you know that I'm not that way I love everyone but nevertheless what are you lying what are you doing 29 years later trying to say that these islands they made a mistake they stopped it and that's it that's the world we live in extortion and blackmail and all of these things so you have to be very careful and that's why Sadler you hear about the Babbage a b and c check it out go sit down discuss it read and be open-minded that's what we learned today and I hope that this was a I hope that you understand that this is a very very important issue not just the the issue that we're covering now Sacrament Zionism and tomorrow we start with the tanks and the sawyerman which is going to be very schmuck the next section of the letter but it's it's a broader issue it's really a broader issue where people accuse people and um and in in relationships too with husband and wives accusations and all kinds of things hey calm down calm down let's work things out let's discuss things you know any uh comments or questions okay not zygous might have a safe trip wonderful to see you it's really machia's times if you're on a plane and you're able to see a sheer it's definitely mashiach times not a salted but it's definitely creeping up there I mean it's amazing he's on a plane and he's and he's listening to a sheer and I see him and he sees us I mean it's it's here Maisha Maisha you see that's mashiach that's mashiach my that's mashiach that you were able to learn a sheer in the morning or in the afternoon or the evening wherever he's flying over and and and and to hear and to see it's Russia right so let it let us hope that Michelle will come in that Mom is and we'll be able to see him and hear him and we'll open your life yes you want to say something around the world right right I mean tomorrow bye bye