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Zionism #18-Belief that Redemption started is Heresy according to the Rambam
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so uh good day we're learning to get his
base page Zion
now just uh for you happy to know that
this year is not just a local uh viewers
and attendees
but they're both Hashem as I told you
other people are are watching listening
and even commenting yesterday I got a
very long uh comment on the YouTube
from a dentist in Teaneck New Jersey who
hopes to join us from time to time he
said
um commenting on different things that
we discussed of Cook
and uh and and and the the rabbashita
was a clarification
I don't think you were at that part of
the sheer moisture yesterday it came a
little late but I I spoke a little bit
about that in the beginning
because what you asked last week which
is very good that you brought it up
about you know and you said you know
today's religious zionists are different
than the ones
in the past from the way back
and and I said uh yes and no and I
discussed the Shabbos with some
knowledge of people sure
and they agreed to what I said and that
is that
yes
is that there's more
of a religious uh Taylor
right-wing attitude even by Miss Rocky
today but no and that they still hold on
to the ascalta digiola which that part
of the show you were there for yesterday
as they say in the Thriller
and rough cook held that way too
again I'm not I'm not a book in his
expertness swarm whether he actually
made the tree laws I don't think he did
or he should say that feel like I don't
know could be he did but in Sita in
ideology
uh he he was of that mindset
and Volvo is not here but before the
sheer he left me a elaborate voice note
asking me to talk for a few minutes
about the 1948 United Nations
announcement and decision
at the state of Israel of Palestine now
is the state of Israel
and and he said that you know where he
is in in Cologne Germany
you know he's always confronted by
people who are Orthodox and from and you
know that there is uh there is some form
of because the miracle of 48 points to
that
and a lot of that comes you know much
and then the saying of how will the
different different aspects here
so he addressed that briefly
say one of two things
number one
who says that 1948 was a miracle
who says it was a miracle
it was great negotiations
could you prove to me it was a miracle
no one can no one can prove it was a
miracle
and say they negotiated very well
and Hashem blessed them what I'm saying
is what's the miracle
you're struggling you're negotiating 20
30 years from the British mandate your
maneuvering you clinch the deal so what
was this a miracle what means a miracle
that that in other words this is my own
humble opinion is that I could question
and conclude that it's not a miracle
it's a good thing but who says it's a
miracle that's number one
number two
the fact is that this state that was
formed in 48
did not include that it's a state based
on hello
so
how can you how can you argue that
Redemption has begun because the state
of Israel and the state goes against
Redemption I.E goes against the Tita
it's an oxymoron you can't and that's
also part of what the bureau is writing
in different words and different
arguments of different places in this
letter is you can't have you can't have
it both if you're saying it's skiola
which yesterday will learn that today
will continue it's not up to us to say
oh it's up to God to say it's good but
even if you want to argue that we can we
can make a gaula beginning of how could
that be cool if eating today and raising
pigs and and and and saying bosses
should go on Shabbos it doesn't go
together so the the statehood did not
create Google on the contrary the state
of created desecration of today
simultaneously we're very happy that
there was a 1948 and there was a state
and we could live in that she said oh we
can go back to the crystal until you
know the
and all that absolutely
but don't tell minskiola so this is the
answer to to to to the objection that
Volvo shared from his people there and
it's not it's all over it's not just
there is that 1948 is not and it's not
necessary even the miracle what mirror
the 1967 war The Six Day War
that ever said it was a miracle guess
what the sacrament ever said it wasn't a
miracle
even that which was almost which not
just the represent almost everyone said
it was miraculous that in six days we
should defeat all of our enemies
that has more Miracle Tone to it
okay one second but 1948 what's what's
the miracle over here now if any of you
can explain what the miracle of 1948
Miracle we're talking about nests not
not great thing not good thing
miracle-ness
so that's my rebuttal to to the argument
level that miracle that what happened in
48 albeit a good thing that we are a we
have Liberation or somehow we have a
state and then we you know we have
Homeland and all that to live in and to
conduct ourselves it doesn't equal a
miracle
so I I hope that that suffices for now
wait yeah yeah
I just want to mention
um I know that um I remember learning
about this years ago that
that there's a I think that even Within
even with
there's a difference between late as
your brother 1948 what happened in 1948
and what happened in 1967
I think that 1967 what's interesting is
that those who say Hollow
um those who say hello
um
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the ones who are more
um
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um
they say there's much more of a basis to
say hello I'm just I just shared much
more of a basis to say hello
potentially potentially even with a
bracha because of what happened in 1967.
I mean in 1967 was a real you could say
maybe it was a real nice yeah especially
because it because let's say there was
an element of finishing this element of
of let's say of um uh you know there's a
military
there was a mo there was a military
issue and and it and it it completed it
was essentially almost say like a
victory or a positive outcome and so
celebration of that in 1967
I think amongst those again who who say
hello
this is the tremendous amount of uh a
difference of opinion between 1948 and
thank you thank you join me
so I don't know I don't I'll tell you
a story that I heard when I was at maybe
13 14 something like that
um I don't know if you know maybe in all
your teachings it could be one of your
books too maybe you mentioned um name is
Rabbi Tavia besser
I don't know if you know because his son
is a his son is a rabbit is I think the
um
either the Russian sheep or the dean of
Manhattan
I think Manhattan High School but I
didn't like a modern Orthodox school but
that's his son he's a rabbi very
interesting guy his father
was an American who went in 48 to to to
Palestine
to fight and it was my father's boss
so I remember I was a little kid my
father would take me to work every
Friday I didn't go to school on Fridays
and he would take me to smoker
bernsteins and he would take me to the
shop and his shop was on 47th Street
used to work in the Diamond District
and um
he was his uh his boss and
um they used to make gold chains that's
what they that was the business my
father was in the business for many
years
and um so he told me a story he told me
he told my father I was there because we
were talking about Israel listener I
know anything about Israel I was a time
Berlin at the time I had no idea and he
seemed like a charity guy so I didn't
you know think you know you know
anything about Israeli a white beard a
black Africa
and he said no at 4 48 and I went and I
went and I I volunteered
and he said that he doesn't have any
citizenship at that time you know he
wasn't Israel he wasn't living there he
doesn't have his really sense of Japan
also a story many years ago at least 30
years ago
he passed away but he said an
interesting thing he said that when he
came to fight and to defend in Israel
so he said they were so outgunned and so
out everything they had no Machinery
they had no guns they were literally
like fighting with with sticks and bows
and arrow they didn't have anything
and the world wasn't giving them money
and they really didn't have a lot so
what they did was they were inventive
they were inventive and Innovative and
they built and he said he was part of
this he didn't tell me a story for
somebody else this is what he did they
he wasn't a tank Battalion and they had
a few tanks
and he said that he didn't have even
materials to make tanks from so what
they did was
I mean and this is what he said was the
miracle he says they took aluminum like
from from well different parts like
parts from trucks and and parts of
everything gutters and they built these
things that kind of looked like somewhat
like a dank but it obviously didn't have
wheels and and you know they couldn't
Master they didn't have the same
Machinery that they have today that they
can make things and they constructed
these things and they put them on
mountains now they actually these things
are if you're going from Beijing Mr Tel
Aviv Jerusalem
you can still see them they're actually
like these red little they look in a way
like a truck yeah I I I've seen them on
the road no
yeah so until I came to Israel
and I think over there yeah yeah yeah
yeah so until until I came because I
didn't know what he was talking about
but he said that they put them on
strategic
um places and mountains and uh you know
the Galileo and he said that he was
overlooking and he was like it was metal
so it was like protection he said as
soon as they put down these pieces of
scrap metal
the Syrian Army started running he says
I'm looking through my binoculars and I
was literally shocked he said my whole
life I never saw such a thing never saw
such a thing they just saw these pieces
of the matter started running
and he said that it was a crazy for him
it was a crazy miracle and Mr Nice Mr
Nice whatever it was but he told
me he said that was a miracle and I
heard that story and then when I first
came to this when I saw those pieces of
metal I'm like wow you know like that
that's what hit me so that's why we're
talking about right right and that and
that wasn't 48 there was a 67 67. oh 48
48 because you're talking this story
happened in the 80s he was already an
old man then so 67 he was already yeah
right right
right
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um
one last Point uh regarding what I said
earlier
that uh
in 19 after The Six Day War
the next pesach
that ever wrote to his
that of pesach they should leave
yerushalayim
until after midday
because
yeah because if not they'll be obligated
according
there'll be a benefit of Paris who
is uh was uh I think addition
yeah but he said who says that you have
to bring a carbon PESA
if you're in yerushalaya and you have
dominance
out of pesach you have to be in
according pesos
no you have to bring it in the afternoon
but if you're not there
see maybe he said you have to go away
for the oil of basic I don't remember
but the bottom line is
they left
you can see the letters that's then the
next year
that I've been said you could stay
because what he hoped would happen
didn't happen
what did he hope that the victory of the
of the army would be that they would
conquer and take over and have complete
control and they didn't they gave it
over to the wild the walk the walking
whatever it's called and and everything
yeah the WAFF and that's it
so to to us about Oslo babiches
it was a clear indication that
that although a miracle happened on the
first Six Day War right and it kind of
was wasted it was it it didn't it the
the the the vessel that was supposed to
sort of been made by the Israeli
government was squandered was wasted and
and and to the point where it ever said
you could Remain the next out of
all I'm saying is sharing this with you
is that
it's it's you know we're flipping the
saying there's a miracle you know we
have to again look into Allah and see
what the what the get together of a
miracle is and then we have to see what
that our Buddhism say and all that now
notwithstanding all that we have a
legitimate disagreement between those
that see The Six Day War you know as or
or the 48th and The Six Day War as
Miracles again and and therefore
foreign
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groups As We Know
believe and decide based on their
abundant
but the girl in this letter
he's presenting
his understanding based on the rabbit's
understanding that the assaulted which
the Mizrahi
cool
called
is not the case
and now let's go to the page of Zion for
for one just learn one paragraph inside
today I guess
um
this is the first paragraph on the page
this idea that it's either us
complete denial
in the primary foundational belief of
redemption why
the laws of Kings
chapter 11.
quote the number says
including the beginning of the gamma
scouted us
and even the other the second stage
which the Agoda calls it's the beginning
to the beginning
will be only through the righteous
Messiah he will bring that about
the religious zionists right the this
argument that the religious zionists say
and he and the bill writes in the
parenthesis
and so he says you can find in the
newspapers of the Agoda their position
and that is
the fact that many Yeadon made Aliyah
and they came to Erica's the Holy Land
made cut be close and to each and every
one of us speedily mayasa shyness and
they came from all kinds of different
countries so they argue who will you
keep with scullions this is what the
Ramba means the in gathering of the
Exiles
this is complete uh heresy
it's Mama's country to the rambam rights
in the laws of Kings what is it right
there she keeps going that the
in-gathering of the goalies of the
Exiles
after the building
and the no Zionist whether it's herzl or
of Coke or anyone else
will tell you that the priests that make
there's a standing here on on the Hara
bias no one's going to tell you that
right everyone agrees there's no base
amigdas
everyone is still celebrating anyone
that's religious and believes Tish above
so if y'all says if that's the case
the rambam writes that who is going that
first mashiach will first they'll be the
building the base of Magnus and Mr
mashiach will then gather
the Jews from all over so how can you
tell me the fact that they're making
Aliyah
is part of the ULU when the EULA didn't
start because we don't have a base to
meet this yet
according to the Ramba
again remember what I said yesterday
according to the number as the final
Authority
if you don't accept that I'm a final
Authority which
many didn't and maybe it have cooked in
either I don't know I'm not well well
versed
seemingly he didn't as the final
Authority on these laws then you could
say the measure says this and according
to the mattress Maisha you don't need to
have the building of the base I make
this before the in gathering of Godless
so therefore I'm 67 and 48 and 67 which
was made on the young all that it's part
of the guild
that's their argument
but if you follow the rap bomb and the
Order of the rambam just text of the
Rambo I'm not you know not uh secrets of
the rambam the actual simple text he
gives an order one two three four and
what does he say that first they'll be
opinion based on make this and then keep
us golias so the fact that there was
Alias and great Alias great wonderful
and it's valid but it does not equal
and therefore and therefore
according to the rambam review oil's
expression which is very sharp gamuta
it's complete heresy
because
it's a very sharp expression but think
about it
if you accept the number's opinion then
saying the guild has started it's a it's
a contradiction to belief
to believe the 13 not unimaments
right just as I believe you only in
Hashem and I believe in TSA Mason
I believe in mashiach
it's one of the you give a principles
and and according to the rambam it
didn't begin yet because we don't have a
base Amigos yet and if you're telling me
it did begin
then that means you're from the
perspective of the rambam you're going
against the belief in one of the
principles and that's heresy in other
words if someone's gonna say you're
innocent
I don't believe in the resurrection of
that you will call that person a kaifer
a heretic
he does right it's one of the there's
youth game on me those you give them you
give me things 13 principles of of and
they're icaring they're called your
gimbal icarin
and one of them scared some Mason well
someone will come along I don't believe
it's a heretic he's a kaifer so rabiel
says that the rambam says the same thing
about the process of the evil and if you
say otherwise you're a kaifer that's the
explanation to his words
travel continue tomorrow try to come on
time so we can learn more zygons don't
have a great day everyone
thank you take care bye bye