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goldhar co-founder of zikru together
with
our good friend
Barry Leibowitz I think we've already
discussed how we got to know each other
it was in the last few weeks before all
that was launching and they reached out
to us with an idea about that could talk
about that
but we are just a couple days before
their major event
they have already
come across
come to a place where there are people
who have managed to memorize 1
000 Simone and points on 1 000 of them
which is something we could say probably
the first time in history that has ever
happened
we we know many people that have
phenomenal brains of phenomenal heads
and are able to memorize we've known
people throughout the generations who
have photographic memories but to have
regular people regular balabatum regular
Learners who are able to stand in line
at a grocery store or able to sit in
traffic in case that happens where you
live and just go over Daphne in their
minds and constantly create new ways to
memorize more than they're learning with
zekru that is something that we could
say truly the cliche word unprecedented
so we want to talk about two things we
want to talk about the event itself and
what led up to the event the history of
zakuru just a little bit and then some
practical guides some DIYs and do it
yourself if you haven't joined zikr yet
you want to work on some memorization
some Simone on your own but goldheart
will spill the beans give us a secret
sauce of how someone could do this on
their own or by goldar how are you today
I'm doing great Rabbi sweat and as I
mentioned we're we're just a couple a
few days away in a week or so away from
the beginning of our fourth year in this
stuff yomi maxor it's unbelievable
um I have we I am very we both have
tremendous accuracy of for all Duff uh
you know it was zikr was a concept we
you know thought about it you know we
then we heard about adopt was starting
we met with you literally the next day
and you really put you know put the wind
in our in our sails by creating the
portal within the aldolf app and uh
giving us the the exposure and so as
always I just want to start with the
carsatov to you and the aldov team for
putting together a really a as everybody
knows I'm not saying the obvious but a
game-changing app for alumni dafyami and
just anybody who's winning any blot
anywhere in Shaw's the resources are
remarkable and we're just honored to be
a part of it so thank you so much and
we're about to begin our fourth year so
we should have continued
so yeah so we're uh this Thursday uh is
our zikru 1000 event
celebrating the fact that lambeomi
remember the Daft they have today and
we've crossed that 1 000 block milestone
so it is as far as an unprecedented
unprecedented it's exciting and the fact
that attorneys real estate developers so
for me people just winning the dot while
reading very busy lives like every
person who learns the dove does but
they've been able to hold on to what
they've learned from January 5th 2020 to
where we are today day after day it's
remarkable so we're gonna have a fair at
the event it's in Passaic New Jersey
we're going to have the privilege of
having the Lakewood Washington
we have Rabbi from Shapiro coming up
from Miami to speak but the uh peace to
the resistance is going to be the hair
where our members 20 of our members are
going to be tested on a thousand block
and that's 3 000 sugias and where
suggests come up which stopped multiple
dopping so it's going to be hopefully
really eye-opening for everybody because
he said it's not about having an
exceptional memory it's uh you don't
have to do something
totally uh Beyond Norm it's within the
grants of everybody and that's what we
hope to demonstrate on Thursday night at
the zoo 1000 event
goldhar mentioned it'll be phenomenal to
see a scene of 20 people getting tested
on
1000 of them I actually had the
opportunity to attend the previous event
I don't remember how many dolphins but
it was
25 percent okay of daffim and you had
people that I've seen the diversity of
the people getting tested and I know
people we had someone sitting there who
lives in Williamsburg who has brought
zekru to the Yiddish speaking Community
hell proudly say himself that English is
by far his second language and he's much
more comfortable speaking in Yiddish and
we have people literally who are modern
Orthodox living in Teaneck living in the
five towns so bringing the worlds
together I think is something which is
incredible stunning there mayor Shapiro
had on mine when he launched that yemi
but seeing it in real time and in real
life sitting together on one stage being
being tested on this is something which
is truly incredible and truly remarkable
yeah the diversity is going to be very
very impressive and as you mentioned we
have now zikru and Yiddish it's
available for the for yin-speaking world
and uh the wonderful thing is as I say
that I've had the opportunity to speak
at a CM for bells uh a while back and
when they asked me to speak I started by
saying that you know there's many
different types of yiddin and there's
many different types ways to learn the
blot but we all share the common
frustration that we forget the same way
the the pleasure and the enjoyment and
the just the knockers people are getting
from all together collectively
remembering so much it really creates a
commonality and it's exciting when they
when zikra members people remembering
the blood meet up each other they have
the same same idea as a Torah they can
test each other it's uh it's exciting
wherever you are uh it creates a
tremendous sense of actas
okay so we're looking forward to being
there and those who can attend seeing
the video footage afterwards and we hope
to make it available for all daf users
as well so at this point I know we had
discussed that you wanted to share a
little bit about zekru how it works how
the Simone is not just something which
is a nice addition to your learning but
it's really sourced in hazal and urban
goldaka tell me on the spot probably
we're in chass rifkista told us about
Timonium we'll give him two seconds to
think if I finish my sentence and the
misconception of how Simon work and
lastly how to go about doing it yourself
if you're not you're ready to join
zikaru I know we can discuss people
perhaps fine until they get used to it
maybe the sentences aren't exactly their
style because I could talk about how the
Simone are they have to work in a way
that gets your mind to think about
something which is weird or different in
concept from the general way your mind
works so first we here in chass is there
a reference to how Simone are a source
to memory
all right well a very prominent source
is aravind and goes into Daphne and hay
as well but there we have the famous
mimer of his the inventory nickname
Taurus only acquired with tsumanim and I
I do want to underscore what you just
had mentioned is that I think that in
the Belton Zhang the the general culture
of learning
presently again it's a nice thing for
people into it it's a good additive but
you know you meet those types of people
who are in doing some money you know
once in a while and once in a year well
maybe even you know but uh and I hope is
really to show that it's it's not that
in reality kazal really present a very
compelling case because it says toys
only acquired with Simone and we have a
number of macaros the the most profound
is the homage itself or kushboo who says
write this song down and put it in their
mouths and the Gamora says there and
everyone
else don't even put it there put it
there with a cinnamon which means is
giving us a mandate of how we're
supposed to walk around talk to it is
with Simone another very profound place
is in Shabbos where we have the Gamora
that talks about the olive face and the
meaning of the ocos that went into
creation itself off base Albina gimmel
Dal gomodang help the poor
makes and you'll acquire the Torah so
they're bred into the very fabric of the
Berea the creation is somehow say so
it's far from a fringe activity or
concept it really is core to what we all
want which is to own our Torah to walk
out of the basement walk out of learning
and then feel it the riches in your
hands that you can do hazora with so
we're not there yet in the way we relate
to it but I hope that we will get there
and the fact that we have members who
now have a thousand lot uh indicates
that this is far from just a a good
thing that's helpful somewhat but it's
actually enabling a brand new level of
achievement for wounded and if I can I
can say this
you know who in a million years would
have thought that Dr yomi would be the
uh the the thing to prove to everybody
what's a comp what's a possible in terms
of memory that the fact is it's it's
really you know I don't say makhive but
it definitely indicates that someone
who's not winning adava day what they're
capable of and everybody's capable of it
so the first thing I just want to say
Simone are core to our aspirations which
is to acquire the Torah and it's the way
khazal present to us that this is it and
if you think about it just before we get
into the the methodology which I want to
share a lot of technique with you with
the people you know watching is think of
a Simmon this way imagine meeting people
everybody you know family members
cousins Community people people you know
professionally and imagine a world where
no one had a name
they just didn't have a name I I knew
the person I'm speaking to but I I don't
have a way to identify them
think about how absolutely maddening
that would be because when you want to
talk about something well where would
you begin
not to have an identifier a label to
then say Oh I'm speaking to Rabbi
schwein you know great now everything I
know about him can be filed under that
name it's just two words but it makes an
absolutely a world of difference so
similarly you know consider that a
Simmon does the same thing it's giving a
name an identity to a blot that you've
learned and and therefore everything you
can learn about from that bot can be
then associated with it and the more you
know that blood the more that name Will
resonate so that's what we're doing is
we're naming that's that's Point number
one uh that I want to underscore uh the
second thing is just even though our
program is called zikru I'm not a big
fan of memorizing this is not a
memorizing program a lot of people you
know cringe up when they think of their
days in school of trying to remember
Shakespeare or some other text and it's
not memorizing this is organizing see
money is a way to get material the Torah
that you want you love you've learned in
your head in an organized way and I do
want to share if I can just one
fantastic muscle that Rashia seidenfeld
one of our members you mentioned from
Williamsburg shared with me he was doing
a demonstration for massipta and they
were fairing them on maseka's Yuma at
the time and boom boom boom any Topic at
his fingertips so everybody was you know
a gas it was amazing their jaws were
dropping dropping and he said to them I
know looks very impressive you know and
it is impressive and it's going to be
impressive to see people remember a
thousand blood 3 000 ideas and place
that topic like that to the daf but he
said the following he said imagine going
to the dentist
and uh you get to the the counter and
she says what's your name I say you know
gold heart and she goes to the back and
there's all these files back there and
she goes straight to one row pulls out a
drawer reaches in and pulls out my file
when I say wow that's unbelievable like
how did you do that so quickly it's not
so impressive it's just organized so see
money is about having an organized mind
an organized mind that's the goal many
people in the morning have what I call
or end up with what I call like a child
brain it's a challenge it's there it's
percolating hopefully somewhere
sometimes it goes to the top of the
challenge sometimes it sinks to the
bottom but it's not easily accessible
we're just getting rid of the charm
brain and creating a filing system
that's what C mining do they give an
identity a name like a person to a
person it gives it to the blot and
similarly it's just filing it so it's
very very effective and that's why coach
baraku is telling us to do it because
it's going to make a world of difference
um so now how do you do it so I'm going
to tell you the way we do it at zikru uh
when we started zikru rubbish web we had
no idea first of all how many people
would be you know into doing it you know
I would like this concept and whether
they'd want to use RC money we figured
my partner might Barry Lee Woods we felt
that
making some money is an effort and let's
make it at least available that will
create c-money for our members they can
use them but by they don't at all have
to use them at all they can just take
the concept and run so I want to
encourage you you know to those watching
I'm going to tell you the methodology
that I use in coming up with the Simone
and you can use it if it makes sense to
you right away and start to see a Mr
sham a big difference in your ability to
retain review and hold on to what you've
invested time in learning so the way we
do it in zukuru is every doth gets a
standard seminar title an anchor so it's
a the core to it so dot bass is advises
a house and gimbals of Gamal is a camel
and dalid is a Della does a door and a
haze a haystack and above is a sword
because it's above is straight like a
sword it doesn't have to be awesome but
those are RC Monument I mean we use
these pegs as a standard
thing for every what meaning the bass in
braces is a bias the base in the dharim
is a bias every doth is a uh is a um
every dot is standardized and then what
we do is we take three ideas we chose
three ideas because we felt we don't
want to make a cumbersome in terms of
people having too much loaded up but at
least and you know ideas from amidal if
I'm a base we highly recommend that you
do because when you make a Simmon just
like when I think of Rabbi schwed I
think of different elements of them when
you think of a blot you want to think of
Ahmad Alf and I'm a bass and having
elements from both will help you see for
those who are visual more of the broader
remember what you've learned from the
bot so we take topics and then what we
do once we choose those topics we weave
them into a story using that anchor for
Duff you know base or get more Dollar in
our
in our uh our methodology so for example
as an example uh noon
in zikru is now a non-stop flight a
non-stop flight an airplane a non-stop
flight and uh the topics on Daft nun
whereas the whole background how Ruby
Cuba became very very wealthy one of the
stories being with the mice with Rocco
and uh Cabo sebua and the head and the
hedger for the Nether and so on so
that's you know topic number one we have
the story
and the mice of the bus quesar the
Caesar's daughter saying you know how
contort being such an ugly vessel and he
demonstrates that yeah then why it makes
sense and thirdly we have the whole mice
with Barca para the unusual sort of
barcapara and uh not being invited to
the customer you done and uh uh and his
responses and then being invited so
those are our topics that we chose uh
that we want to focus on and I want to
mention that the gova Simmons not to put
everything from the dove into the Simon
it's just to be a home base for the
ideas more material will Clump on the
more concern you do the more you'll
associate to that just like a name to a
person you remember more to that name so
that's what we do and now the cement
happens to be for Deaf noon it's a
non-stop flight so here you have a first
class section and there's a revi a rabbi
that became very very wealthy because of
the smear sitting there and he's being
served by the uh Steward there with a
some very expensive wine from the
climbakura from a clay vessel to remind
distribution
and opposite him is another passenger
very upset sending an email you know to
about not being invited and what he said
and remind us of about kapara you know
and the and that incident there so
that's it so we take the three topics we
create a story it's enjoyable it's fun
and as I mentioned in the previous time
we met I showed that you know in memory
weird works the weirder something is the
better it is you know if because you
want to be able to create something
which doesn't compete with everything
else that is going on in your life so
weird works and what we subsequently
found and that stuff that stuff done
that's our definite and the beauty of
this is is the pay the the return on
investment because here we have a semin
now if nuns non-stop flight rivet key
there you know but wealthy because of
the smear the steward with the wine and
the clay thing and and the rabbi you
know sending an email very upset it
wasn't invited that's it it takes 15 20
30 seconds to review which means in a
minute review two blood at least and
then 10 minutes ago 20 bought and the
the magic is in the numbers because once
you can hold on to that if I can say I
may is that at the end of the day it
will take for a mastecta that's 60 block
half an hour to do hazora so you know
nine the dime is 90 Baht so it's going
to take 45 minutes of khazura
yes I may have overstepped my bounce
here but I brought on a Live member here
so we'll have to believe it by gold I
wouldn't have to trust him you know he's
here selling his product that he created
we have repsia zeinfeld here from
Williamsburg and he could attest to
exactly where everybody gold are saying
so
I was unexpected and I was like okay
he's coming to do it I was like I didn't
know what I'm going to join but yes
great to see you so we have we're we're
discussing 1
000 past that already it's gonna be a
major celebration a major event in the
next couple days Rabbi Goldberg said
he's gonna have 20 people sitting there
are going to be testing a Fajr on 1 000
I had the opportunity a few months ago
to meet Rabbi gold Rabbi sidenfeld in
Williamsburg I'm also stepping my bounds
any person who's in Williamsburg they're
there for a wedding or they're stopping
by be in touch with her by herbsia he's
happy to sit down with you talk to you
show you around Williamsburg give you a
tour
anytime the best tour guide has been
there from the day he was born so Rabbi
Rabbi tell us from your perspective
someone
how did you get to this these weird
sentences with his weird simonim give us
in a couple minutes from where you heard
about this and where you are today okay
I'll try to make a very short even short
it will be almost probably about two
hours so it'll make it extremely short
but like I want to correct you what you
said that the room is selling this
program he's not selling a program this
is a program it's free for everybody and
it's just if someone starts tasting it
they're never gonna move away but the
reason is I mean I was obviously she
will learn but I never remembered only a
little bit about
um when the filming was that Arabic test
I think it was almost like two years ago
I saw like a ad something like you
remember the death and I was like yeah
it's never gonna happen but I figured
you do not let me try it so start trying
and it started I was talking of static
tests and the first day I was very
excited I'm going to remember the dove
like yes like I always say it's like
someone's telling me that I'm going to
learn how to fly
yes you claim you have to fly I never
connect but yeah I'll try it and I
thought it has become a cheater to be
honest I didn't know what a cheetah
didn't understand what he's saying I
started Googling I did a Google I could
cheetah okay fine I don't want to cheat
sheet of the animal the animal all right
but I didn't have a clue I'm familiar's
work okay so I started the three points
I didn't know what to put them I had
three points okay then we keep for the
monkey I got stuck if Alice was cool a
bird called I was like a bird cool a car
a cool a Google even Google didn't know
the answer the bottom line is I figured
I'm going I'm committed I'm going to do
it till the Finish because
like the room said always the beginning
gets hard but you get used to it and
then he said that it's gonna uh it's
gonna be the python by the side there
when you sit by the side you remember
the whole lot of circles about 21 blood
and you know three points in each but I
was like yeah but I did it every single
day was very very tough because it's
coming from Williamsburg learning in
Yiddish and then flipping it in English
which was a little bit conflict but I
would say that Pfizer I was sitting by
the side there when I ate by two muscles
it took like whatever the five minutes I
did the whole zoo
and then I knew that this is going to
work because if I know 20 blood it's
going to work it's for all shots there's
no reason why not they just have to do
the hazura and like I said everybody
it's not a vaccine that you take a
vaccine and you're going to remember
everything you don't have to learn you
have to learn you have to Hazard this is
just a small tool but this is going to
make all the difference not a little bit
not a little bit more it's gonna be
everything is change your life your
family's life your friend's life
everybody
amazing so very quickly if you have two
more minutes tell us you stay there
using
and I understand we we're gonna tell
everybody not everyone could do this not
everyone does do the same way if she
does it but I think you could get an
example of how he's able to use the crew
for his saddaram and his cedra and
everyone can take it and use it their
own way whoever is possible and again I
will tell you what it is but I'm really
if anybody has questions since I want to
do how to set up in the beginning it's
different and because once you have more
and more death and you have to change it
a little bit around I'm always available
there's a lot of different people that
are available to help I also got a lot
of help from the room and other people
so I was in the same boat as everybody
else so basically what I do is I I do in
the morning I'll do the blood I learn
the blood it takes me about an hour to
learn the blog after I finish the blog I
listen to the bedroom it's about 50
minutes because five minutes about 15
minutes then I have another 20 minutes
that's after that's another 20 minutes
10 minutes of the last 20 Bloods blood
that's for example this week I learned
every day from ma'am Alice till summer
by some of them that's the new 20 blog
and then I do a 20 black hazura of the
last hundred blood for example I have
the form exhibits that uh every day 20
blood so it's like all the old 100 and
the new 20 because you always have to
put in more work on the new ones until
you get like it gets like engraved
it takes not more than 10 maybe 10
minutes each 20 minutes this is what I
do every day then the end of the day I
have another 10 minutes I do the blood
for that day I make sure that um when I
go to sleep I know that blood the trees
that's like a short
amazing
amazing group Chia thank you for your
time maybe
I want to put just a small thing because
this is something that is different
they're above room all all people that
were rumors and surrounded they're like
happy with three points when it comes to
the facility I have no idea why
everybody has the same questions oh I
want to remember three points I want to
remember everything so always asking
okay no problem what are you learning
the Durham okay what's on those memo oh
um
no uh so so you don't know anything but
this is I can confirm to you it's not
only me it's a lot of people if you do
the three Simon and you do the hazura
you will remember 95 even 98 from
everything that you learned like it will
be 100 500 600.7 on the Block absolutely
she it's great to see you thank you so
much
thank you looking forward to seeing you
on the panel with the 20 people uh uh so
in terms of the the the Sim and I just
want to point out that for people should
realize that some people are more visual
I mean they see pictures in their minds
more readily and some people are more
auditory they they hear they hear things
I happen to be more Visual and it's
interesting when we started I remember
that when we started zikru for this
moxor rabbit sweat asked me are we gonna
have pictures of these stories and I
thought to myself like pictures wow I've
never made a picture person that's
that's kind of childish that was my that
was my gut reaction and we didn't do
pictures but then members kept asking us
what about doing illustrations pictures
and so on and eventually I said okay
listen let's give it a go send some
pictures and sure enough the pictures
were remarkably helpful uh and then I
and for myself I'm more visual the
pictures are like terrific then that's
how I I do because we have illustrations
of it and I highly recommend when you
come up with the SIM and a prison comes
up yours to your story your way of
connecting it you don't need a fancy
artist to do it just take a little
scratch Pad we had people making stick
figure illustration just a little stick
figure but if you're visual that will do
a remarkable amount and show you how
easy it is to retain it other members
are more auditory and in fact we have a
uh khaburra here in Passaic on Shabbos
before Minka uh on Shabbos
shabba's day and uh so we do a round
robin of you know music remembers you
know sing the blot and uh we usually
about 50 for 40 50 60 bought in an hour
before minha and we had a member from
Queens come who was there for Shabbos
and when you just say the topics we see
most of us are visual we see the topics
and we say them but um the members other
men this member said the actual Simon he
actually says the entire story because
he's more auditory so if you're auditory
you know come up with a good story and
you know use the words and you'll
that'll help you so play to your
strength at zikru we try to play it both
both
we create a story that can be pictured
but that's the uh that's the the the
main effort is to come up with a story
all you're doing think about it when
you're making a cinema is you you finish
the blog you finish winning the duff
what's something I'd like to retain from
this blog what's the basic idea is and
the goal is not to get every Prat from
the blood in there even on that topic
just rushing tables just what's the
general thing and then write it down
write it down I'm a big fan of
note-taking uh but write it down so you
have a record it's easy to read easy
review and again because of efficiency
you write it down so on one single page
you could have 10 block right there and
just pull it out and there you go
wherever you are waiting for a doubling
to start you could do khazur of the
Simone that you've created for yourself
so it's it's all about efficiency so all
you're doing is taking the amount of
time you put it invest it and to learn
the plot to say okay what am I going to
come back to and if I cannot if I can I
want to underscore something that vashia
mentioned you know many people and I
just met someone recently who was like
an All or Nothing type person I have
three points I don't know but what about
the entire body so I I say to him I said
listen if you could consider that the
All or Nothing strategy might be at
Yates O'Hara All or Nothing then think
about it is the Yates are hard does the
Yates or hard really want you to have
all is he really presenting you with a
choice it's either All or Nothing
absolutely not the Yates or her wants
you to have absolutely zilch nothing
cornished so he says it's all or nothing
and we know that there's never a limit a
ceiling on what all is so whatever you
do it'll never be enough so it gets you
to eventually walk away with garnished
so with three points on the idea again
it's not the sum total of what you're
going to retain you'll remember more but
you don't tafasa maruba with simunting
the magic is that you choose a couple
points three points Max to say put it in
it's very manageable and uh and you're
good to go and the mind is an endless
palette it's an endless palette you can
just you know whatever Association
connection Works you're good to go so
it's you're not constrained this is not
a schwitz type program this is a
remarkable return on investment that
you're going to be able to do and
remember Chris bark who's telling us
this is the way it should be in our
mouth Seema am with some money if a
Coach marker wants us to talk to her it
has to be pleasurable it can't be a
heavy load so see money didn't give you
that pleasure to talk tour wherever uh
and that's what I would you know the the
main things I would keep in mind in
terms of making some money
okay excellent by goldhar we are looking
forward to the event probably people
will see this mainly after the event
that as we started at the beginning
we'll be able to share video
presentation for people to actually see
in real time
people real people from all over the
place from all sects of Claud Israel who
actually have memory we don't like
calling a memory have organized 1 000 in
their minds and Rabbi goldheart
mentioned she is Idaho who we just had
on with his muscle with the dentist
basically I remember Europa gota telling
me this way back when we started it's
like a filing cabinet you have to set up
your brain like a filing cabinet
organized you can just open drawers and
pull out files and that's that's the
goal over here so
continue the amazing work anybody out
there certainly give it a try even if
you give it a try and you fail try it
again like everything else in life
there's certainly something you'll be
able to gain from this and whether
you're able to use this program or any
other type of memory program it's
certainly something that is worth giving
a try and who knows you may be sitting
in your car instead of getting
frustrated with the traffic
just thinking about nadarim daf memsay
and who knows
right in fact if I can just tell you one
final story we actually uh she had told
me this that someone actually made a
mistake on the date of the event and he
came the week before Hanukkah from
Williamsburg to Passaic
for the event and it wasn't going on but
he wrote an email but it wasn't a
problem
on the way there and subas on the way
back so it's it's really remarkable you
can do it and by all means if you go to
you know learn from the RC Monument you
can see how I've crafted to see money
and you'll pick up a lot of tips along
the way so you can do it on your own for
whatever you're learning I want to wish
you a tremendous amount of it's welcome
thank you everybody and the aldaf team
it's just a wonderful privilege and
pleasure to be part of the aldof
platform
thank you for the kind words and again
as Rabbi goldheart just underscored with
that story it's not only about knowing
more daphim and feeling good about that
other aspects in your life may feel
better as well when your brain is
focused on hazarding Daffin so thank you
very much have a wonderful day