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Today's daff is
and we are at the first wide line on
the two dots.
Today's stuff's being learned as
and
so we're moving along in the 11th per of
which deals with some of the unique
that the Torah mentions in paras
in the par of
specifically the first part of the paric
dealt with the that states
that if dam of a carbon goes on a
there's a mitzvah to wash the beades
the latter part of the barrack
discusses
the
which is mentioned in the very next pav
In the event that
is cooked. So if it's cooked in an earn
in a
Torah says you have to break that kali.
If the was cooked in
you don't have to break it. the some
sort of the some sort of casuring
process that you can do and it's
referred to in the Tyra as
what's known in the Mishna in the sug as
now there's a fundamental difference
between the that was mentioned in the
very beginning of the peric
that goes on a beed requires kibbus and
the that's discussed in the latter part
of the Peric and that is
that's cooked in a
that's cooked in a clean
and the difference is the first is true
only by a carbon the second is true not
only by a meaning both of these are
mentioned in the par of the Torah that
talks about the katas it's mentioned in
the par
stating that one of these are taco
unique only to the carbon kas the other
is true for kachum as well now is it
true for all kachum or is it true for
some kachch so that was already
discussed in the end of the mishna on
and it's really on that topic that
today's daf begins the mishna had very
very curtly mentioned it's a mikistan on
specifically as it relates to says the
true for all and it's true for all
says
that does not require in other words
and agree that the of is not true only
by a carbon
Like we just mentioned okay how broadly
then is it applied that's already
according to the
it's true for all kadash and all kachum
it's true for all kachum according to
it's only true for kach kadashim it's
not true for kachim kum regardless on
that note the garra is going to begin
with a bra that a is going to put a name
to the face so we're going to get a name
now for the tanakama / that were
mentioned in our Mishna. Additionally,
we'll see some of the mirus and how it
is that the Tanakama and came to their
position respectively
and the Marta. This Bryce Rashi says is
a
says
where does it say?
And in that parish of the tells me
I would think that is only true for
how do I know that it's true not only
but it's true by all as well says
so one of the in the parish of
now we know is so why did have to say
to be that not only is the of
true by the but it's true by now it's
interesting we're being
from the words
you would think from the words you could
only bees
well see that is one of the opinions in
the but it's not the of the first
opinion rather from the fact that it
says
Not only
you would think that we should be even
meaning even that's cooked in a clean
should be of
the says
what's coming to
so is the first mentioned in the brace.
So holds that even though the said in
the parish of the but from the fact that
it says
you would think
it's only that requires
does not require this is of course the
how do I know that
because what's the boy to be more than
just a carbon.
Oh, if the rebel is like we said a
second ago, then you could only be
says
how did know to be from even
saying good
says I'll tell you
because from the fact that the terrorist
said the word which understands is
coming to
if you need to well then for sure kachum
kum is included because if even kachum
kum is not included
is not included kachum kum is more
kadesh than so if I need a p to
that's a very roundabout way of saying
that kachum is included now where is
kachum included must be when it says it
means even
what's going to respond to that meaning
if
Yehuda is right. Then now needs to be
why would the have to tell me
if even Kachum is excluded is going to
tell me that Isa is actually coming to
exclude but something else. It's not
coming to exclude Truma. In fact
it's coming to exclude what we already
said it's coming to exclude. Now when
did we already say is coming to exclude
anything? Zashi takes us down memory
lane. It was three ago
said that from the word we learn
that only uh that's
included in this. If however it's
possible even if it had and became later
it's going to be included is not coming
to be according to it's coming to be in
the event that it was
even if it was
as a result the kasha is not aasha what
was the kasha if you're going to tell me
that even kachum is excluded why do I
need according to is in fact not coming
The bottom line is this is the slightly
expanded version of the that we had in
our Mishna. Again in our Mishna we had
two. We had the
and the
hold that even though the said in the
paras but really it's true for all
said
it's true for all but it's not true
forum. What do we see in this price?
Number one, a name to the face. Who is
the
that's the first thing that you see?
Additionally, what we see over here is
the to
the reason Yehuda holds that it's true
for all is because the Tory says he in
the parab
not onlyes but the rabbis all says it's
true. It says that's
but to be what's
very funny that from the word you would
be even is because it also says and
understood is coming to if you're going
to tell me that even from
not only it's coming to
hold like said that is coming to
something else. It's not coming to if
it's not coming to then I could tell you
is being only it's not being march. So
what's the mus between
the isum do they require mifa do they
not require mikifa coin who is the first
opinion in the mission
mifa is true for all kachum even kachum
and coin it's only true for kach it's
not going to be true for kach but one
thing is clear everybody agrees that
truma does not require right that's a
very very clear thing that truma not the
sh is kach but as it relates to truma
Not according to Yehuda it's a coming to
be according to you don't even need a
because according to even kachum kum is
excluded certainly truma is going to be
excluded but it's on that point that
truma is outside looking in as it
relates to the laws of that this last
piece of gumar before the mishna is
going to focus on faith
is that true that truma doesn't require
mico also known as micoa vata We learned
in a now this Bryce that the Gumar is
about to bring is what we'd refer to as
101. In fact, it's quoted in
which if you've ever learned the
or if you've ever learned that is like
prime real estate this is the thick of
the laws of
this is everybody in the world knows
if you have a pot that was used to cook
baser meaning a pot you now let it cook
let's say you went ahead and you did it
but nice and time so depending on how
much
you have relative to the depending on
the ratio that's going to determine
whether you have a problem you don't
have a problem meaning if the bus is
being then you have an issue if not
you're not going to have an issue the
same is true regarding if someone has a
potum
you shouldn't cook
and if you went ahead and you cooked in
this pot if there's enough truma in the
of the pot to be into the well then you
have to treat it like truma you can't
just go ahead and eat If you're a C, you
could, but let's say you're not a C, you
won't be able to eat it. If not, not.
But what do you see from here? You see
from here that the laws of
relate to just like they relate to all
if that's the case, break the how could
it be that there's no of
when it comes to Truma. If you see that
101 applies to Truma, then the laws of
should apply to Truma as well. Now, the
truth is we didn't really learn the
yet. It's going to be the topic of
today's d. So at the end of today's d
hopefully we'll be a little bit more
intelligent in the topic
of mifa but the gumar's kasha right here
is based on one obvious and that is that
for sure you would think the laws of
mikoa have something to do with the laws
of ble and plus and haggalas kale
how
The pip shad is because
kachin we know if it sits around too
long becomes nicer. So if you have a
piece of baser kachchim and you're
supposed to eat it kachi kadashim a day
and a night or kachum colum two days and
a night and now that statute of
limitations that amount of time that the
grants you to eat it passes if you would
eat it you would be you'd even be it's
what's known as in the
lies a very very big and that is that
just like
of baser kachum becomes nicer if it's
time that you were supposed to have
eaten it or been macked after it passes.
The same is true if it's balua inside a
kali it would become nicer as well which
means that really the fact that you have
to go ahead and you have to casher a
kali that you call kachum inside of it
is related to uh underlying
which states that if you're not going to
do that you're going to end up with if
you're going to have yourself a problem
that means at its core
you would think is related to the
well if that's the case And I know from
the
well there's no way in the world that
there can't be
of truma that has to be because to the
extent you're not going to do you're
going to end up a ple of Truman the pot
and if you're going to end up with ple
in Truman the pot it's not a heavl that
you're allowed to just go ahead now and
cook because you're going to end up with
a a situation so tim that what do you
mean there's no when it comes to truma
that almost sounds like there's no laws
of when it comes to truma and I know
from
that that's in fact not the case that
would be
when it comes to and if that's the case
if you cook true in a pot for sure there
should be a of so the now is going to
give three truths to this kasha they're
all coming from the same vein but it's
three is the first you want to know what
meant when they said there's no
when it comes to what they meant was
they meant the following
that in the event that a little bit of
the kay was cooked with kachin so you
have to do on the entire clay that's
because if you only cooked with a little
bit of clay so there's only a little bit
of the kali that has ble inside of it
why do I have to go now and do ma
on the entire that's aesh that's a
special in the
that really transcends
whatif is predicated on which is the
fact that this ble over here that
that even if you only cooked with mix
you have to do on the dire it's that
that we say
that's not true for truma because by
truma all you would have to do is you
would have to capture the bishial but
you would have to capture the bishial
said,
I'll tell you where it's that there's no
when it comes to the following it says
in the so where does it say that
and we learn from the fact that the
terror says has to be done with water
you can't do with wine
we learn from the word it can't even be
with diluted wine that has a lot of
water inside of it it's still not going
to be okay has to be 100% pure pure
unadulterated water, right? But what's
the point? The point is
that when it comes to there's a special
that has to be done with water. However,
when it comes to
there, there's no with water. You can do
it with wine. You could do it with
you would have to do some foreign. And
the reason is because the laws of belie
said
he said a third time
it's the following.
So we're going to see this in the he of
today's but we'll see is that anytime
was done so it was a two-step process.
First micoifa was done and that was done
with cold water and then afterwards or
beforehand there was also a hagala
process that was done with hot water but
there's two components there's the and
there's the
itself has to be in addition to that
there's that was that then in addition
to the you also have to do this
that's true only
as it relates to there's no you could
just do it straight up and that in of
itself is going to be enough but says
this last only works if you
that holds that was done it's only the
so according to that it comes out that
there is no
when it comes to all it is is and if
Truma also needs a which means
said it comes out Truma is the same the
says no it's not true I'll tell you
where it's neg it's negated the it's
still neg
holds only the buta still has to be that
you have to do a
that's
true only that's not going to be true so
said you're telling me there's no
that seems to suggest there's no bleum
the famous
there's a process when it comes to truma
there's a hagal process but the of that
you have those you don't have by trauma
what are the abaya throughout
and rabula throughout
was that by you see that even if you mix
have to do for the entire that
transcends the basic of that's not true
by Truma and that's what meant when they
said or
that is going to be excluded said it's
neg that has to be done it's you can't
use wine you can't use diluted wine when
it comes to truma you have to caser it
but you can caser it with wine you can
caser it with diluted wine rabb said
it's
there's a special has to be done That's
true only by with
that is not going to be true when it
comes to moving along
another this is really going to get into
the basic
said
that if it's
and is being brought on yontiff and the
kanim cooked
with clean on.
So you would think after they finish
cooking
you have to do the says no the whole
counts as one long cooking
and at the end of then you'll do the
say no
you have to do the by the we'll see more
about another
what's the m It's
what's the type of it's
so what's m oh
what'sifa
does that help you so without rash I
don't think so rashi says I'll tell you
what this means the is actually
referring to
that talks about
everybody knows before you use you're
supposed to wash the and the says over
there is That requires
you have to rinse the inside of the kali
and you also have to rinse the outside
of the kali.
means the inside of the kali
like the says that
that's the requires
that's what the means when it says
is referring to the
that's mentioned over
and that's so means you rinse it you
rinse the inside of the kali and you
rinse the outside of the kali Okay,
another says
were both done with cold water. We saw
that in the last right before these
were different kum that were used for
roasting in the
those things were not used when it came
to kasher with but rather it had to be
used with water. Either way, there's a
lot to unpack. The first part of the
Mishna mentioned
said as much as there's a
of
the say no
say that you have to wait until it's by
the
you have to go and you have to do theifa
Now the gumar is going to discuss the
sheet of reptar. The gumar is going to
discuss the sheet of the first we're
going to discuss the sheet of reptar
then the sheet of the reason we're going
to do it in that order because that's
the order that the mishna brings it in.
First the Mishna mentions reparan and
then the Mishna mentions the but I think
we could appreciate repar if we do a
little spoiler alert and we understand
the drop better the
say adds
the is going to say that the of the is
that the always had to be done by the
of the food that was cooked inside the
scale. So for example, if it's a
carbonas which is what the is referring
to even though it's other as well but
let's say you cooked the carbonas in
this so
right you have the rest of the day and
that night to eat it. So you go to the
and it's by that you go ahead and you
cook it. Now we're going to see in the
gum tus is going to bring two gear in
the gar whether they used to do it
mamish by the manila or they waited for
the manila to pass and it's then they
did it. It's based on two different in
the gar but either way it was done
around the time of the manila. So as
soon as the happens it's then that you
have to go ahead and you have to do this
says that's true every day of the year
with the exception of when it comes to
you cook on the first day
keep on cooking it's fine you don't have
to worry about until the end of by the
end of then it's going to be an issue
and the jumps on and says
if ordinarily is like said
so why is it going to be different so
the says I'll tell you why because the
says
this is a very interesting this is in
the over there is talking about the
carbon pes you're going to come to the
bd you're going to bring the carbon pes
you're going to finish bringing the
carbon you're going to eat it you're
going to wake up in the morning and
you're going to go home now are you go
home the morning after you ate the
carbon pak no and the reason is because
it's the first day yontiff and if it's
yontiff
you are going to presumably outside the
right and if that's the case you're
going to have no ability to go home. So
when the says
it can't really mean the next morning.
Okay. So what then does it mean? It
means the next morning that you're going
to be able to go home. But this
which literally means the next morning
when the sun rises really means sometime
later.
said that you see from that when the
said the meant that the entire from the
first night until the end of Y is
treated like one day where do you see
that because the morning not after you
ate the car the morning is considered
the next morning of it's all one big day
if it's all one big day one big day so I
don't have to do the
until the when's
That's why I haven't told y to do it.
So,
you know why? Because we look at the
entire as being one day. Now, there's a
long
second on the asks a very obvious says
that we just said that when it says in
the
it can't mean the next morning literally
because the next morning you're
presumably outside the must be it means
the day after ya. How do you jump from
the next morning until the day after the
maybe means the first day first there's
no way to go outside the right a lot of
trips involve going outside the there's
no problem of when it comes to so maybe
when it says
means the second day what
right but the whole is considered one
day maybe that first day okay so you get
an extra RA day it's the entire
but either way this is repar of art
that the entire is
the entire the entire
is going to be considered
but
said if that's the case
there should be no piggle. There should
be no Allah of no what does it mean
there should be no pickle there should
be no of because there's no if the whole
is one day what's if a is doing on the
first day if he has a mind he's going to
eat it three days later three days later
is still not even morning yet it's not
yet
right it's not yet there should be no
nicer nicer means once passes it's not
until the end of you told
Maybe according to that
until the end of maybe there's no
and maybe there's no but says even
though it's
but it's factually incorrect
said
only said with regards to he never said
it with regards to the you have to say
must be something else again if
it would be true for pickle ander as
well and we know it's not
is based on something said in the name
of
the reason holds that
is because they used to bring so many
carbon specifically she says they used
to bring a bunch of schlammans and the
reason they brought a so many schlammans
is because they brought the shami and
they brought the shami sim right so
there were a bunch of schlammans that
were being brought over yontiff so what
happened Because
it was very unlikely that in the event
that somebody could caution, it was ever
going to come nicer that there should be
an obligation for us to be proactive now
and do mikifa. Again, marshifa is
predicated on the fact that the bio
inside the kali is going to become. It's
something that was highly unlikely on
yontiff. And the reason is just uh play
it play it out. It's the first day
yontiff. You went ahead and you cooked
the kakatas, right? Let's start with
katas because talking about a carbon kas
at some point that day you're going to
end up cooking a when you cook aim the
schlamim is going to be mas
and now the pot is going to be by the
ble of is not going to become nicer for
another two days
and it's two days in a night the next
day you're going to end up cooking
another schlam the next day another
schlam even if you throw in a katus in
between and a katus does become nicer
from day to day but there's always going
to be schlamsi says And the schlams
always buys you a buffer. It always
gives you an extra day. As a result, the
chances of these ble ever becoming
nights are highly unlikely. It's
said
either way
that when it comes to you don't have to
do until the end of first based on
said if that's true there should be no
piggle or noiser either. And we know
not that way must be shut in
is based on
the argued within the said.
So theor says what exactly do mean? So
we already spoiled this when we read the
again in the name he is the here. He
said
you wait until and then you do the you
always have to wait until the
it's true every day and it's true on as
well. Now we mentioned that said this
two had a read this. So if you look at
the last
which sounds like you wait for the
entire to pass and it's afterwards that
you go ahead and do it. Thenis brings
that there's another that says not you
wait the entire but you wait until the
but you have to before the
for a little bit of a discussion on that
says what's the supposed to do by
the says that's the
very next says
Okay. Meaning the Tory juxtaposes
and the Pik that says that the was eaten
by the put them together to teach me
that the
is related to this
and then you do the now the Mishna
continued and the Mishna said
she already explained what that means in
the Mishna and then
had to be done. So the is going to bring
a that's going to mention another
opinion number one elaborate on this
little
it's only
what do you mean like all cashing
anytime you cash it what does mean if
you buy a k from a you have to cure it
you don't cash it with cold water if you
cash it with hot water everybody knows
that. So this dude, the ma has to be
done with hot water's
going to respond, I know
was done with hot water. And in fact,
you think I think that when you cash
this kay, you're going to capture it
with anything other than hot water. Of
course not.
I hold that in addition to capturing
with hot water there's a special den
there's a special action you have to
take that's called and that action
mushifa that was done with cold wateron
what hold if it's true that in addition
to the
there was also
that was done and both of them were done
with cold water Then
told I hear what you're saying. Good
come back. Meaning I hear you. You
answered me. Very good. There's a
component there. But you're telling me
that the are both being done. But I
think that for sure one of the two, the
Marifa is the actual hag. That's what's
being done with you. I know that because
if maifa are both being done within then
why the word ma and the wordifa they
should been both called the same thing.
They both should have been called ma
they both should have been called.
And by the way, even though we know the
Mishna said is
but the could have said which would
teach me or
which would teach me why
to me is that there's a fundamental
difference between and you know what the
fundamental difference must be one is
hot one is cold. So I don't think you
have to conjure it with hot water and
then on top of that do sifa
inside and outside with cold water. I
think what the terra is telling me is
that one of the two is done with the hot
water and that's the ma cuz the comes
first and the mentions the ma first. So
I think that the ma which is the inside
that was done
and then afterwards you're going to do
it with cold water and that is going to
be the
verbi. What's Rabbi going to respond to
that meaning? If you're telling me that
are both being done with cold water, so
why didn't the terror just say
Rabbi says I'll tell you
I would have thought
I would have thought that you just
repeat the same thing twice. Rinse and
repeat, right? Pun intended.
You want to know why the Torah used?
Because one of them is inside and one of
them is outside. That's why the terror
used two different words. It's not
because one's with hot water, one's with
cold water. It's because one's inside,
one's outside. Had the said, I would
have thought maybe they're both inside,
maybe they're both outside.
One is going to be inside, the other one
is going to be outside. So what's the
bottom line? How connected with the
but in reality we have a that mentions.
It's
and really really everybody agrees that
the first things first is you had to
capture it without water. There's no sha
you're capturing without water. There's
no sha in the world.
You're first casuring without water. So
what's then the shila? The shila is the
mifa itself. What is that? According to
it's both one's called ma one's called
because the location location location
is different. The is done is again the
actual is being done with then there's a
and there's a
both of which were done with according
to the the itself is the so you don't do
in addition to the the includes it and
the in fact the reason it's called m
andifa is not because of the location
location but rather it's because the mas
is done and the is actually being done.
So it's a number one procedurally what
was done according to
then
according to the
then
there's no that preceded
what the
according to the is both
the of the is not for today but There is
a big piece from Mona Grizz from the
brisker oven safer in the Rambam in
Hilisa
Carbonus
the Rambam is in
where the scrub brings from
that was this
that you have when it comes to
which according to it's true really for
all according to at the very least it's
true by
Is that
or is that a mitzvah to go ahead and do
a
right after we learn the we can
appreciate the a little bit better
meaning that's you have to
even that
is
that you have to do a regular and the is
related to the like we've seen so many
times throughout the but the question is
this special
what is that is that some ritual at
Kachim dig. So there's so many inch. So
go chalk this up to another one of such
or is this really at its core more of
like a
is this more of a play
is that
also or is that not
that and much much more isn't that very
very long piece from we're going to go
back to Mishna like if somebody went and
he cooked in a ki
and
or kach kadashim and kachim.
So are completely different obviously
kadesh and kachim are also different in
many ways number one there's number two
who's allowed to eat it so there's now
in terms of the tar of what you just
cooked inside this pot so it says the
mission as follows
if the is able to be or if the is able
to be
so specifically as it relates Kachchik
kadasham that was cooked together with
kachum column. If the kachik kadashim is
able to be nice and time into the kachum
column you would have to treat the
kachum column as if it's kachadashim
because it has ble of kachikadash inside
of it. It's nice and t so it wasn't able
to mat it. So you have to treat it like
that meaning it has to be eaten within a
certain by certain people in a certain
place by the way also right it has to be
so you're going to have to treat it now
like additionally
is going to clarify what that means
and if somebody would or something would
touch this it would not pass the maga
would not be as if it touched that dber
In the event that that is possible, this
is also something that requires just
simple which is going to do another.
So if you have a rocket literally is a
wafer but a that touched another
orch
says the
or some.
So you would think that if a rock
touches a rock and a touches a
where one is possible the other one is
kasha. So the ka now would become
possible because it touched the ple says
the entire doesn't become possible in
fact
it's the place where they touch where
they made contact with the bah actually
happened where something transmitted
from one to the other that's where you
have issues but the entire the entire
that not is a very cryptic theor is
gonna jump right in might come second
first part of the
So
if the is being nice and if
so you have to treat the now as if it's
right the you have to treat like it's
the you have to treat like it's
number one number two
doesn't require
what does that even mean
which we seems to be saying that If the
was ple and someone touches the tar now
it would not become ple. So the gmorra
says my I don't even know how to read
it. And the reason the doesn't know how
to read it is for two things. Number one
what does it mean?
Well first of all if you cook kachen
with hoolen or kachadashum
kadash for sure according to everybody
requires marika. So if it's been nice in
town, so for sure you need Marie Kushifa
now fish. If it was not nice in town, I
could understand why you don't need
Marie Kushifa cuz it's buckled to the
Kachum. Maybe you'll tell me we're going
Quinton Mand doesn't require Mikushifa.
We'll see in the Gar or if the Kin was
cooked within okay for sure doesn't
require Marie Kushifa. So I understand
why there would be no of Kushifa. But
you're telling me it's been nice and
time, right?
Then
what if the
of course it require also
what do you mean if it's been nice and
it's possible so it was not in the if it
wasn't ble so then why is it that if
something else touches it now it's not
going to become possible in other words
the misha said three
one mitz and three the mitsus was you
kum within orch
and It's been so what are the three
number one
number two
number three the first we understand we
understand why
because there's a double that's not it's
been but
what do you mean
if you
that's not and why
if something touches. So now it takes on
the status of that kachum. Right? So if
that's the case and the kachum is not so
then why would it be?
This is what the gumar can't wrap its
head around. And because of that, the
gumar is going to do a whole edit on the
Mishna which will obviously make
everything work. Says the gar
enters the
Here's the edit
that we had in the
makes a lot of sense. Not
rather
makes perfect sense. and time. Talk
about an edit. If however it's not then
edit and everything works itself out
good. Right? We had one case and three
one of which we understood two of which
we didn't understand. But really after
the edit we have two cases with uh six
and the three is one is applied to the
case that's mentioned. The other two are
applied to the case that we inserted via
the edit. Everything is good.
I have another question.
One of the that the Mishna said was that
if
was cooked together withum and it's
based on the edit then what's a
why? Because the kachikadashim was
bottled to the kachchum kalum. What's
the marz kasha? Mars kasha is forget
about kachukadashim. Kachchum kalum also
requires mikifa right. Doesn't kachum
kalum require marshifa?
Now is that so that kachum requires?
Hopefully not that was the first 20
minutes of today's thear is going to
revisit it. First thear is going to
bring us
when the or really when the Mishna says
that if it's not it doesn't require it
doesn't mean it doesn't require at all.
It means it doesn't require the of it
requires the kush of kachumad. Now
what's the difference between the two is
nothing. The difference is this man when
exactly you did it you always do it by
the so if it's not time so comes out we
view it as so. So when are you going to
do the at the end of the second day if
however it's time then we view it as
kach. When are you going to do the
you're going to do it at the end of the
first day.
This mission is going according to
according to it doesn't require
because that is
only
according to
I understand according to why the Mishna
told me two cases to tell me the right
what were the two cases
and Then it's and with the editor of the
why do I need these two cases? So
according to I'll tell you why because
the wanted to teach me one that I only
know from the case
from there I know that there's no
require
and this is not
and when it says in the per the edit
they don't when
It just means you don't need by this man
of need by this man of
why you telling me two cases why do I
need
just tell me
and I'm not again like coming to teach
me
but it's not so why do I need the second
case you need both
said I would have
who
is maybe able to be mat. This whole
concept of B in our sug is only true by
and because has the ability to
because it's very different and we know
whenever it comes to the more different
things are the more of a it has to be
is not even at all right
is not because it's too similar to the
in order to have a BL you need the two
things to be different so I would have
and which are so different. There's a
bit
being that they're very similar because
at their core they're both maybe there's
no at all
and only said
I mean I would have thought
maybe only is strong enough to
but when it comes to
maybe does not have the ability doesn't
have the capacity to
that's why I needed both cases. So the
reason we have both cases according to
is not because of some footnote.
No, no, no, no. I needed fundamentally
to understand the sug
between and there's between and the next
part of the Mishna was
so we're talking about two that came in
contact with each other. One was the
other was or two or that came in contact
with each other. One was one was
possible. Says the Mishna that you would
think that now the one becomes
completely possible. It doesn't
it's the place where they made contact.
It's the place where the ble took place
but otherwise otherwise not. So the is
going to bring a now that's going to
expand on this.
Now the background to this bra is
another one of the in the parish of
it says
anything that touches the bus of
says the
you would think anything that touches a
carbon kastosh becomes kadesh even if
there was no ble meaning two cold things
touch each other maybe it becomes 's
right you have a very similar
is predicated on that. So there is an
idea you touch you become has something
to do with.
So you would have thought that as long
as it touches it
says
and from we learn
no it's only a problem if it's there has
to be a but if there's no it's not going
to be a problem you would think
you would think of a little bit of
maybe the entire to become
it says the word and we learn from there
it's the place where it touched that
happens. Okay, it's not okay. How does
that play itself out? So, what do you
do? If only that part is possible but
the rest of the Ber is really
you cut off that please right what's
known as
right and then once you cut that off
it's going to be okay it says
we learned from there
it's only the but the horns all that
other stuff that's not going to have the
ability to impart any of this what does
mean it means Whatever the status of the
is the thing that touched it is going to
take on that same status as well. Okay.
Then she too this piece of meat that
touched it is going to be possible as
well.
And if
then this you're going to be allowed to
eat. And what does it mean? You're going
to be allowed to eat it. You're going to
have to eat it like the
has to eaten for a day and a night. has
to be eaten within the it can only be
eaten by so all the rules and
regulations that govern exactly hey is
going to govern this as well
and this next kumar that we're about to
learn is an absolute classic it's a
classic in the world of raid seven and a
half years ago in tomorrow's we spoke
about it truth is we've spoken about
this many times over the years
but the now is about to aska.
So what emerges from the many that we
just learned in the affformentioned
is that if you have a piece of that's
and it touches a that's
going to be
it's now going to be possible. If it's
possible means you're not going to be
allowed to eat the the kachum right now
eat kachchum that's possible. Does say
if you eat kachchum that's possible.
You're not going to be allowed to eat
it. It's going to be possible.
Why can you eat this?
When a person eats he's
when someone eats that's possible he's
let the of I'm eating a kosher piece of
be
of the ple that I'm eating the of the
pleat
that's right now inside the kishkas of
this kasher the piece of meat that I'm
eating. In other words, when I eat this
piece of meat, on the one hand is a
mitzvah. On the other hand, there's a a
mitzvah is the
is the
possible the arguing that it's both.
It's possible. Which means when I take a
bite out of this, I'm doing a mitzvah
and I'm doing a Now, what's the rule?
Every time you do a mitzvah and a
we should say
now the truth is this is a little bit of
a hard kasha to understand. First of all
you would think it's a tufus and it's
either it's not kosher. What do you mean
it's not right? You would think it's one
or the other. Additionally, the Gar just
said we learn from
if there's a that teaches me.
So you think it's you can tell me say
from today till tomorrow. What the seems
to be telling me is that even though I
say
they not going to be allowed to eat it.
These two and much much more is all
discussed by the on this. But we're
gonna learn the
said I'm gonna tell you the answer to
this. You want to know why you don't say
has no ability to be
the says.
Okay. Where does it say that? It says
that regarding the carbon P break the
bone of a carbon P
when it says in the what it means is
it means whether the has marrow inside
of it means there's a little bit of bus
or pes inside or if it doesn't have
either way you're not allowed to break
it meaning what would be if you have a
bone of a carbon pes and inside the bar
of the carbon pes there's right some
people like that a lot can I break the
bone
to go ahead and eat
It sounds like no
said that when the boy means even
said I don't understand
why don't we say
of eating the carbon
of because when I break the bone I'm
going to get the I'll be making the
mitzvah of what do you have to say
you want to know why the of the
is not going to be
it's because
when it comes to the mikto over there is
not
said a different
the word is an it's an
it's true but not
and when the
what the Torah is saying is that it's
off limits. This not eat it. Now it
doesn't say thou shalt not eat it. It
says which is what we have then is
that's why there's going to be no so two
roots and why there's no according to
according to it's because
the
now we just mentioned that on this
there's there's so much raid and I am
the related raid bites but I just want
to end with one kasha it's not the
easiest kasha ever but it's kadai it's
just one
that angel asked that is the guru
in
this is really a guru that repeats
itself in several places in
discusses the of
which by the way is very much related to
today's d we had a lot of
and in today's which is very much
related to the
what is the of
so it begins with a member for
with the exception of
ordinarily if somebody would eat
and he would eat it together with
something that you're allowed to eat. So
somebody eats na and he puts it in a
sandwich. So he takes a bite out of a
sandwich. There's a little bit of naan
and there's also a bun that this is
inside. If he didn't eat a kazayas of
Nao, he's not going to get malus. We
know was awesome in but he's not gonna
get malus if he didn't eat a kaz of even
if the bun itself is mash
to where he ate a kazas between the no
and the bread. It doesn't matter because
the bread is not inherently the bread is
m and as a result being that you only
ate
of even though you ate a little bit of
together with it, it's going to be okay.
The of
states that there are times where if
somebody eats is together with the
itself is going to be and we'll say that
even if the person ate of but if he was
the
is
and now it's going to be if he ate he's
even going to get malus in the name of
when it comes to every
is not. So if somebody eats
and he eats a little bit of bread with
it, he's not over the
only time we say is when it comes to the
said is not let him right but the didn't
just say don't eat
the said and from the fact that the said
we learned from there that if somebody
would eat another together with a double
motor to zamine The would be to and it
would create the over here.
This is the of
the
on the very bottom of it goes to the top
of
asks that I don't understand if we have
a in the
so then why don't we learn from
and say just like by it says
so too in we should also say that
and And the Gmorra says, I'll tell you
why.
You're right. Really based on the
we should say that
it's
but being that there's another time the
said of
so comes out the didn't tell to me once
the told to me twice. We know the rule.
If the terror tells you something twice,
you can't learn nothing from it. It's
what's known as
it's for that reason I don't have the
ability to learn from that
says the fact that by it says
I learned it from the word
where in the
mention
I know from the following it saysto
the topic of the last part of today's
you would think that even if somebody
would take and eat baser that touch of a
carbonas
but it wasn't by from it still it would
be
and we learn from there has to be
what does
It teaches me that in the event that
something would go ahead and would touch
the carbon.
So the is it would take on the status of
the carbon. In the event that the carbon
kas is it would have a carbon and in the
event that the isle it would have a
carbon. Now the gum over here says that
why did the Tyra have to tell me this
to tell me that
touches the is from the of course it's
by from the why would you think not must
be it's coming to teach me of
this is the so says the it's true that
by you see and you would think that if
by
we should now take and apply it to
and say
you can't because
you have it by
and I have it by as well by I have mis
by I have
is coming to teach me what does it mean
of
by the way if you look at rashi in
today's on the top of two lines from the
top
actually quotes this that it's from here
that we learn the
because that's what is coming to teach
me not just that this bully is a
plaintist that are going to transfer
from one to the other but at the end of
the day at the end of the day I know
from here the of now the gumar goes and
the garments a little bit more and the
garra says like this what's the always
of ancake
If you can learn from then why would the
have to write and if I can learn from
why would the have to write so from the
fact that the told to me twice that's a
right you can't learn from the what so
the goes says
had it said I wouldn't necessarily know
to learn
because you could always argue maybe by
which is
but when it comes to which is not maybe
But
why don't you must be it's because
you're not allowed to learn from and
that's how I know that even though
but it's not true by from the fact that
the wrote by must be I can't learn from
because if I can learn from the Tyra
would not have Tell me because it's
anyways something I would know from oh
must be it's
I don't understand
that the word teaches me something very
important you know what it teaches me
not only that this is a plate this not
only that
it teaches me that there's an
I'll tell you the assay is
not
well if that's the case
and that's why I can't learn from
that
because if I could learn from then why
do I need let me learn from
tell you I could learn from it's not a
so why did tell me the word because
included intash is is an assay and that
assay is a very important assay that I
would never know from this and the is
telling me the word so I should know
there's no when it comes to of eating
that's possible based on the fact that
you have the regular say you're never
allowed to eat that's possible and I
also have the
that
said
that the word is coming to teach me not
only that this belieus not only
but in terms of
an
in the world of well if that's the case
the word is not extra it's not
you should be able to
and the
are not talking to each other. This is
the kasha that of Engel asked. Now you
want to know how much of a Rab of Engel
had in this kasha
of Engel wrote a whole safer. He wrote a
whole safer the safer is called I am
70 to roots into this kasha. Now what is
this reminiscent of? This is reminiscent
of another safer that wrote that's also
very much neg
was called
angel had a sense of humor as well that
was called where he wrote aiding to root
him to a different remember that kasha
that kasha was acquainted that holds
that
so every time a woman brings her hero
she always has the ability to have avas
which is going to knock out the if you
act out the m the is not going to work
and even if she's guilty she's not going
to blow up and everything isn't going to
be kok right that was bakasha and he
wrote a safer called 80utum to that
kasha well here he stopped by 70 trust
me there were more where these 70 came
from but wrote a safer called
where he said 70ut toasha every single
one of his alder pilpades
this is not mishkash
of
eight days. It should have been seven
days, right? Which has
that were written try to be this.
These catches are a little bit more
intense.
I need it for the so you shouldn't say
this is maybe not the type of you could
say over at the next party but at the
same time
it's
you want to see what a
was also if you want to get a little
just go through a little bit of the
angle each one is
but regardless this is at the very least
the kasho the backdrop to angle safer I
am paner