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Today's D is B and we are in the
beginning of a new per the 11th per of
Peros.
So the topic of Perk Datos
is
different related to the dam of a
carbonos. And I believe that it requires
a little bit of an introduction
in the spirit of humir. If you reanalyze
the parish of the carbonos in the
beginning of Vayikra, it's interesting
the Torah tells the story of the
different carbonos in the Torah twice.
It says it in par and then it says it
again in paras.
As a matter of fact, paras the beginning
of it is very much the sequel to what is
the beginning of parikra. If you go
through
very high level, the introduces the
concept of carbon by talking about the
carbon then the goes to the
carbonoid.
The third carbon mentioned is the
carbon. Then the terror gets involved in
the carbas and it goes through every
single type of carb
the
bring
the even talks about the and then the
talks about the carbon. So it's really
five sugo
theim
the and the beginning of paras really
starts in the same way the beginning of
parishes
started the Tory again goes through
these five categories of carbonas the
order is different
in the beginning of par who discusses
why the order is different but the goes
through the the and the when the Torah
introduces each one of the five carbon
theor starts that's how starts then it's
you look at they all say that in what's
happening is the Torah introduced the of
the carbon
but every carbon has additional this the
of the with all the and then there's the
of the and then there's the
and the that for whatever reason the
terror did not include in the initial
parish of parishes but rather waited to
the second paras
and that's so parish we'll talk about
the name of the carbon what animal the
carbon can be brought from is it a zer
is it ana you have to do
There's aarim if it's a it involves aar
etc etc etc in
each one of the
of the respectctor gets filled out. So
now I know all the of the and all the of
the all the of the all the of the all
the of the this is just being maedra
doing what we do in the world of
just to see these a little bit more
clearly now as it relates to all thees
is every
unique to but doesn't apply to carbon
is it only for the so the truth is some
of these are unique to the respective
parish of others
really all carbonas I'll give you the
best example in the world in the parish
of
is of which we know of course is
carbon terra set this denim that I
learned from the fact that the terra set
but the bottom line is it's not unique
to right so really Each one of the that
are mentioned in the par here in the
beginning of par you have to ask
yourself you have to learn the you have
to look in the kayan you have to learn
the gar to see whether or not it's going
to be exclusive dka to the parish in
which it's written or it could be the
terra wrote it in that specific parish
but really it's aav and it's going to
apply broadly across the entire spectrum
of carbonus or maybe some carbon honest.
But the bottom line is each one is
really
our peric is going to focus very much on
theim that are mentioned in parad
regarding the
and the reason is because it's going to
discuss some of the additional
that were not mentioned in paras
that are only mentioned in this para of
so I think the really is to go through
those and then bashem over the next
several daffin We're going to go through
the all these different. So it's
the following are the laws of don't I
know the of the already from parishes?
Yeah, that was the introduction. But now
I'm going to tell you all the of the
carbonas. Number one,
the place that you're supposed to shack
the carbon is the same place that you
should that is
and the reason is so we know that the
carbon
that's
it didn't say anything about that
regarding the
we fill out that
number one number
the
he had the it
had it be eaten
which is in the there's a few things
that you see in this pic number one that
in contrast to the carbon which was the
carbon was eaten again this is not news
to anyone I hope but the carbon was
eaten number two who ate it
a little misleading because the sounds a
little bit like
after that he had to eat it. But the
says that's not true. Really, every was
allowed to eat it. Additionally,
it had to be eaten inside
and the reason is because the
is not let if it leaves it becomes
possible. Third,
anything that touches the of a carbon
becomes what does that mean? What it
means is in the event that the carbos
was and it's in a situation right now
where it has the ability to be well then
the would be that in the event that
something for example or something else
would go ahead and would touch the it
would now take on the status of the soas
and it's only
and it has to be eaten a Well, if that's
the case, then in the event that
somebody is going to go and somebody is
going to eat from the
now that touched the it's going to have
to be governed by the same exact. It's
the next words in the Pik that we really
need
in the event that a little bit of a
carbon is going to go on a bag is that
beggar needs to be washed. Now, it
doesn't just need to be washed because
it's not nice for the co doing the avoid
to do the avoid with a blood stain on
his uh bag. The dinos is an avoid of
some sorts. As a matter of fact, the
says
the can't be shipped out to the
cleaners, but rather it something that
had to be done.
It had to be done in the as well.
Another in the event that a will be
cooked in an earn
has to be broken.
Let's say the would be cooked in a kali
that was made of copper, not of earthn
weird.
then you don't have to destroy the kali
but what you do have to do is some form
of and the specific form of which is
going to be discussed in our paric is
what's known as
another
that
has to be eaten only by males and only
by which we already mentioned finally
any whose dam is brought into the
with the intention of doing some sort of
the carbon becomes ple
you have to burn the carbon in a fire.
It's interesting. We know this. It's
come up a lot as we'll in one second. If
you look at the Ramban says, you know
what this is saying
whose is that the are supposed to be
done not but rather on the what's known
as the
you not let the bosser of that garbon
because they're also known as
the
of the pimeio which were the paramount
catastrophic, right? They're also known
as the animals that had to be burnt and
that's the next two words in the
rather than need it, you would have to
go ahead and burn it. So the Raan says
what that is saying is it's going to
right before that that when it comes to
the was eaten albeit by
but that's only true if it's a who is
going on the
who is supposed to go on
that
instead that's going to have to be burnt
in the fire. Stating that for this of
course.
So just like this, the opposite of that
is and states that if you have a whose
dam is supposed to go on
and you now take the dam of that and you
bring it inside the dam becomes pos and
as a result now the of the
which ordinarily you're allowed to eat
you will not be allowed to eat the it's
considered
ple and being that it's considered ple
it's for that reason it is something
that would have to be burnt either way a
whole
board of related to the carbonas
included in the par of
there's two that are going to feature
very very prominently in the sug that
we're going to learn right now one even
more so than the others let's just go
back highlight it for a minute and then
we're going to dive right in
the pik said
Anything that touches the buser of the
car to the extent that the buser of the
is in a situation where it has the
ability to be see
101 the is that that touches the boser
of the is going to take on the status of
the
next
that in the event that a little bit of
the dam of a is going to go on a begg of
a so the is that the begot itself is
going to require kibos but not just send
it to the cleaners but the kibos is
going to have to take place in the
itself this of
as we're going to see in the coming up
now is true only if The coyan did a
kabolo on the dam
and after the kabalo but before this the
dam went on his beggan in the event that
the coyan would go and he would she the
animal and then blood would spritz from
the kas on his beet there's no of the
kadesh in the event that the co did this
and then he has the or whatever he got a
little bit of dirty there'd be no of the
moes
is true only after the cabal not when it
went directly from the and only before
the lumbus is that if you have whose den
is to go on the misbeh this is critical
and instead of it going on the mak it
goes on the beggar of the ken that dam
is what the said
the dam that the ken didn't do a kabala
with yet was not to the point where it
has a d to go once you do it well
there's no den anymore to put the dam
where this is and the only time it's
when there was already a but before
meaning where the dam is in a situation
right now where the is with it on the
where instead of the happening on the it
ended up on the is
there's a lot more to talk about the is
going to do a lot of that talking for us
and on that note a little bit of a
long-winded introduction but I think it
was
that spritz on the
co has to wash his bag and
now this says the is true for all we'll
see a lot more about that in the but for
now let's take the at its work this is
true for allo which is a little bit of
says insishna you know why because if
you look at the clearly talking about
what type of kas
How do I know that? because the POS says
right there were a few shout outs to the
so if that's the case it sounds like the
par of
as much as it's like a super inclusive
para but at the same time sounds like
it's talking da about
the
and if that's the case you would think
that maybe the only
is if it's
not the case
and the pio is another way of saying the
ones that were not eaten because all the
were also the the
were the ones that had to be burnt and
the is because it says
and like we said is mashma
It's a very very inclusive word and this
inclusive word is even the which
seemingly is not really mentioned in
this parish
that's
any that is ple meaning if the dam is
possible you can't do a with it well
then if the dam would fall on the back
it wouldn't require kibus
and it doesn't matter if the dam was
once then it became possible or if it
was never cauter either way that is
going to be the
It was an example of that's possible. It
was once it became
right
or it was but it became or it became
what's an example of that was never
right as soon as you did the
was dead on arrival
or if apostle did the in all these cases
the dam never became right you need a
cabala in order for it to become kasher
and the cabala was done already by a
apostle or you need for the dam to be
this week and this was done by. So those
are examples. Obviously there are other
examples but those are examples of where
you would have
of that did not have.
The bottom line is the Mishna opens up
with two related to
number one even though the isma
that it's talking about the
also known as
where's the because it says
just look at the context so many related
to you could have thought that all the
in this par all the
only
introduces the parish like we mentioned.
This is very very general and as a
result it's going to be true for all
even the second is the only time of the
iss
but to the extent that the dam was
possible then there's no and it doesn't
matter if the dam had a kosher or if the
dam did not have a kosher we can see in
the really but inn it doesn't matter if
the dam had a kosher or if the dam did
not have a kosher what's in the second
of
It's what we mentioned also in the
introduction of requiring is dam as a
tob if instead it ended up on the
but the extent that the dam was pos so
obviously it had no to go so it's not
going to be subject to
says the gar
the mishna said
so what's the first Half of the three
one more time
and
meaning even though from the itself it
would suggest that it should not be
referring to all at the same time the
word is
that true.
If it's true that the word
is
then
should be that of
should also require who said not I'll
tell you who said not said not why
you would think that
should require
it says in the para of
the word and the word ze is an
exclusionary word and it's and it tells
me that there's a
parish of that's not every single
which is not it's not
the
but the bottom line is
how could you tell me that is
the Mishna said that is Marba so if
you're telling me to is Marba
And even though based on the
should not be included in this but
because therefore I include it. So then
should also be included. Are you going
to tell me it says who cares? If it says
also the iss
of the opinion that the word trumps the
word ze. Well if that's the case then it
should be true for the as well. So the
now is going to take three attempts to
really reconcile this that why would it
be that
is from the word
yet
from the word the first is from
tell the says
it says the
And it sounds like the parish of is
talking about
that are subject to the
is and being that it's not subject to so
it's for that reason that it's not going
to be included. So it's true but it's
only but the says the why don't we say
I understand the Mishna had said that
really the seem to be talking about a
specific type of stop
but if you're going to tell me now that
the reason is because it says and is not
from the I don't care it says but at the
end of the day it says
Well, if that's the case, you should say
it says
should be excluded. But the says I can't
because
at the end of the day, I do have the
word. Well,
right. I have should also be included
because it says Tyrus. Mar says true,
but
at the same time, you also have the in
saying that there's
to be
to be or better. There's a word that
would suggest boy and there's a word
that would suggest. The word that's is
the word that's is if you look at
themselves
it's a little bit tricky because
themselves are that we're talking
specifically about the
not
and not
why because it talks about
I'm sorry that it says so clearly we're
talking about
Additionally, it sounds like we're
talking about the
and not the because it says and
now I have a rig
the ribo really would be everything but
I have a m that tells me I can't be mara
everything. So really what I'm left with
is that I have to be marba something and
I have to be m something right. So
again, let's just get this one more
time. the the itself sounds like we're
talking about a very specific
right not
because we're talking about and not
because we're talking about stating that
I have oh tyrus would be m everything
could be mund things why not but I also
have so the me is telling me that I
can't be m everything so I have these
two in question number one the
number to the I know to be marba one and
to be the other. I just don't know which
the came out that we're gonna be the
hence the
how do you know
says that that's the way it should be
why because
that that's why you should be because
the
had a lot of things in common with
and here's the list number one they're
both right they're both behemoth they're
both animals as opposed to number two
they both involve number three they both
required but number four the both
required cababala with a clich number
five both of theirs dam had to go in the
very unique place where the dam of had
to go on the corner of the misbeh the
both of their were done with the finger.
It had to be on the on the point of the
Ken the additionally they both had parts
of the animal that had to be burnt that
went
and by the way this is in contrast to
the has none of the above right is not a
doesn't require there's no there's no
there's no
there's no there's no there's no Karen
there's no and there's no who was
completely eaten So there's a whole list
of things that the pimus has in common
with the which makes it likely then that
if you're going to be marba something
similar to the
would be the candidate but the other I
can make the argument there are certain
things that the has in common with the
and that is number one
they were both born
right that's a big one that both of
I'll hold it from his back.
Additionally,
also they were eaten the was eaten was
eaten as opposed to the
that was not eaten. So because you have
a list of like 10 things to the to
compare the
you should compare those two. Maybe
compare the
because they're all so similar in how
many things? Two things, right? Right.
It's almost hard to ask this question
with a straight face. Just because you
have 10 things, but I have two things.
I'm Yeah, I have 10 things and you have
two and being that one list is much
longer than the other list. So, it's for
that reason that's the one that we're
going to be mar either way. Okay. The
first
we have a little bit of a steer the
parish
of
seems to be just based on the context of
talking about whose was born
stating that stating that we're marba
where even the was brought on the misbe
the reason is like the mishna said
because it says
stating that despite the fact that it
says
we're not really
cuz we're not
and the reason is because the BR says it
says so in as much as it says but
countering the
There's no
is talking to oneas and is talking to
the other katas. That already is
arbitrary. We're picking and choosing
that. This is the way to pick and choose
it. The answer to that is the Garra says
it's because there's so many
commonalities between the
and
even though there are commonalities
between the
did not have in common but at the end of
the day and it's for that reason this is
the direction that we go. This is the
first number two
said I'm going to tell you how knew to
be
from and to be the one that was from
the says. So one of the many in the
parish of
the word in it of itself is a little bit
exclusionary
which has matched
And if that's the case,
there's one type of that's eaten that's
going to be included in this. But
there's another type that's not and it's
from here I know that the is a of what?
It's a me on a that was eaten the was
eaten the one that wasn't eaten. That's
how I know to be
again the was that if I have
to be
so am I not also the
course it says
so what do I need for if you're telling
me that itself is a
should be but
so why do I need to be
says he loves the word.
I could have always thought that is not
really a it's look at Rashi Rashi says
it says
that's just the just the dict of the is
the appropriate way of saying it and
there's no there's no lemur to be had
over here once I have z so z tells me
that I know independently that there's a
asha to be had the question is where
should that mia Should go on or should
go on the
is the it's the that's going to say oh I
know there's a from I'm just not sure
what to be so will be the will tell me
that what I'm supposed to be is at the
end of the day you want to know why
we're being but we're not being the
it's not because one is better this has
more similarities this has less
similarities it's because I actually
have a mocker to
Because I know the mi is supposed to be
of a carbon that was and of the two
options over here only the was as
opposed to the was not a third shot. Oh
my crow. He said I see the situation.
So when you learn the Mishna
100 out of 100 times, this is where you
learn the Mishna.
And even though the itself is talking
about what type of
how do I know that
stating that
is I have a that tells me that
is going to be included in this as well.
says that's really not what's going on
in the Mishna a little bit, but as we'll
see, Ra is going to do some surgery
says,
right? It's the teaches me.
So it says and said
the P is talking about the D of
that requires not but requires H. Now
which dam
required H. It was the dam of the that
went on the MB.
Right? So we know there's nuances in
terms of how exactly the D went on the
MB. There's
ha,
right? These are often interchanged and
considered to be synonyms of each other.
But when you learn the suggest, they're
they're actually pretty nuanced. Now the
dam that went on the
way the Torah describes the dam going
from the hand to the is through. And if
it says that word in the parish of
well
that means that the par of
that's
talking about that was supposed to go
on.
So if that's the case, you want to know
why that went on
that's
it requires it's because the parish is
talking about that. Now the GRA is going
to interrupt the program. So before
we're going to see Rab's whole buildup
and how he learns up the whole line, the
Gar jumps on this and the Gar says now
the Bach changes the gear say it's not
but rather it's
how could you say that? Read the Mishna.
The Mishna said that the para of was
talking about
is the of the
not.
So the Gar says
that is referring to the
so one of the that were mentioned in the
parish of was
now that para is talking about
right first of all you're cooking the
food right so you're eating it what else
are you cooking it for but besides that
says the next says
So we're clearly talking about where it
was. So what the G means to or what the
Mishna means to say is that
even though the
is for sure talking about because there
are only
such
but that's true that's true
but as relates to the is
the
talking about that was supposed to go
asks another problem
by the way, right? The opening words of
the
what does it sound like? That's
and even if you tell me that it's just
the opposite is talking about the
but
okay so according to how do you read the
way you read the
even though the general parish is for
sure talking about
and specifically speifically we're
referring to
but when it comes to
it's not
it's
there it's for sure talking about the
and in fact it's talking about the
stating that the are included how do I
know that
is from the word that's how I know to be
so all did was he answered the original
kasha that how do I know that
are included in the maybe you should say
just like
maybe it should be as well what's the
terret the terret is you can't be
parish is talking about
now if that's the case what is being
soas
is being
so rabbit didn't really help us that
much because all he did was is he just
shifted the blame a little bit. So now
we just have to figure out why is being
so says
if you're telling me that at the end of
the day according to you say
that's what the is talking about but it
is coming to
just like
Right? Maybe also should be not
included. Right?
No, but I have
actually the other way around. So the
say it makes sense.
It makes sense to be
he's going to say exactly what said in
the name of just in the reverse.
This is a good one, right? You should be
So wouldn't it make more sense that
that's what should be included when the
name of that maybe you should in we
should be he was trying to compare to
what to so there he had two things that
they had in common number one it was and
number two it was in world we're
comparing it to the
so over there it's not
right so what would it be it'd be
something else
and by the way is a really good Why?
Because that's what the says. The says
so it's certainly that you should be but
the says stating that I hear what you're
saying that list is longer and being
that that list is longer. It's for that
reason that's what we're going to be.
This concludes the longer first part of
today's just to make a very very quick
we're discussing the of
and
the said that even though this is in the
parish of
but at the end of the day it really does
not include in it all
in fact it relates to
the
but it does not relate to the
right that's the way it it plays itself
out is why so the like this theor said
that really based on the it sounds like
the is talking about
number one that was eaten which would
exclude the who's one of those because
those were burnt and also it's talking
about that required. that's the case
that would exclude
stating that it says the word is a very
inclusionary word and as a result oh
everyone's included everyone is invited
why because it says the word yeah but it
says the word and therefore is mite and
from there saw this little bit of a
struggle this tug of war I know to be I
know to be m I have to figure out what
to be and what to be and really the way
it plays itself out in the way we get to
the mas there's no shas everyone arrives
in the same destination just three
highways to get there. The destination
is we're going to be
but in terms of why we arrive and how we
get there there were three. The first
was Rishlokish in the name of Kaparo who
said at name of Barapar who said a good
name for Kachchin but in the name of
Barap who said that at the end of the
day the
is way more similar to the
is and as a result if we have to be
something be something else it makes
sense that that's the thing that we
should be raised that I actually have a
gloy that the thing we're
is is that was eaten because it says no
has to be something that was eaten. Oh,
if it has to be something that was eaten
then for sure the one is because of the
two that's the one that was eaten
was completely burnt. And then finally
Rabb said that I see it just the
opposite. I see that the par
as it relates specifically to this
detail is talking about the that was
born and he speaks out even though the
par of is notif
we mention right so for sure
sounds like it's talking more about
but this says oh that's the
parish is talking about
says
that went on.
Now you end up in the same place sort of
because why?
And the answer is what said in the name
of because that one is a lot more
similar. Either way, the DA is going to
conclude with a few fun shilas. This is
some real uh brisk shas. We're just
going to do what we do and we'll see.
It's going to tie it into the Mishna and
that's why we're talking about this
right now. But Rababin had the following
question.
that that the took the which has the
diamond inside of it obviously and he
brought it into the does it become or
does it not become so the background to
this is a that we mentioned in the
introduction to the
what's known as
right so what would be if
was brought inside is there
or is there not? What's the shar?
Do we look at the damas inside the of
the as being inside a and just like if
you would take the dam of aar and you
would bring it into the would become
possible should become possible as well.
Maybe we look at the dam inside the of
the as if it was in the of the and if
that's the case the says
and we
so in the event that the would take the
animal before the and he would put it
into the then he would take it out the d
would not become possible. It's only
possible when it's of the question is
the
of the is that like the or maybe it's
different. What would be the it should
be different? So the is the is because
by a be there was a there was a cliches
by if there is no there's no cliches. So
there's to say that the sav of the
behemoth is in lie of the cliches. We
look at it right now as if it's in the
being that if the dam of the be was in a
clich and it would be it would be
possible. So it could be the dam in the
be we look at as if it's going to be
possible. No at the end of the day it's
in the and if the d of the behem is in
it doesn't become possible. So by the it
wouldn't become possible either
from a
what would be if the after the was done
all of a sudden it jumped and it entered
the
and then it came out it's going to be so
this is almost the exact case that we're
talking about it's talking about where
the animal was
jumpy after the malik. It entered the
and then it came out but it says it's
right. So it's checkmate. Perfect. You
have a that says it's the truth is the
is saying just the opposite because you
know what it sounds like? It sounds like
the only reason it's because it was
because it went in on its own. It sounds
like the would actually bring it inside.
In that case it would already be
possible. Now if it would be ple if you
brought it inside so then there's a that
the opposite is a that really if you
bring it in it's going to be now what
would be the difference if I brought it
in or if it went in on its own what's
even the right if you're making a if it
went by itself but if I brought it who
cares right if an animal's do I care how
it was so why would I care how it was so
rashi says the reason is because the
when it talks about it says
And even more than that,
you brought it in with the intent. You
know what it sounds like? If the dam
went in on its own or if the dam went in
notes,
then the wouldn't be there. That would
be a good reason then to distinguish
between, well, did it go in on its own
or did I bring it in? But here's the
bottom line.
If it went in on its own
and then it came out what does it sound
that there is
according to you go back and learn that
entire
in the same context over there in the
same neighborhood the is talking about
we know
says
and then it jumped to then it came right
back to it's going to be cautious now
you're going to make the same oh it's
there so when it comes to going from to
right to another part of the so for sure
there's no dick to be had over there
okay now why then did it say
so it's like a funny just say
sounds like you're opening yourself up
for a dick here right so why talk in a
way that's misleading
The reason it said is because there is a
to be had that's
emphasis but it's a different the if it
was
going to be but if it was
then it's going to be
even if it was only right I didn't bring
it outside it went out on its own I
don't care at that point it's going to
be and by the way you want to make a in
make the
What? If you brought up because it could
be if you brought up it's also going to
be posh. What then is the dick that's to
be had? The dick that's to be had is
that you if you yourself would have
brought it or sorry if it by itself
would have gone outside then it would
have been possible because for sure
doesn't discriminate. We don't care how
it went in outside. At the end of the
day, if it went outside, it went
outside. But the bottom line is we
thought there was a to be had. Really,
there is no to be had. That was first
second child. This is the one that's
going to circle back to our
doesn't get more than when you see the
word, right? So what would be if the C
did Malik would have and then all of a
sudden the dam was nishb from the of the
onto the floor and then he quickly
gathered up could he go ahead now and
put it on the or can he not put it on
the
what's the so let's speak it out first
glance we know is
right wrong sometimes
before the isle nishb
is going to be kosher. So here's the
question. What would be that was do we
look at it as if it wasab.
So do you look at as being a cliche
is a so
IT'S GOING TO BE no it's
by a regular
it's so what's the difference if it's a
or if it's going to be
the words that the chooses to pose this
question is
this
when it comes to but is the gather of
there being no when it comes to that
theor wasn't
what does it mean the wasn't a cliches
because we view Rashi says because we
view that the sabber itself is like the
because you have it and therefore
maybe the says no you put into it's
going to be possible
And therefore it's going to be possible.
And the way Rashi explains the punch
line of this
is that if putting into a cliches is
going to be ple
then nishbach is certainly going to be
possible because nishbach can't be
better than if you put it into a
kicharis. So putting into a kicharis is
going to be possible. Nishbach is for
sure going to be possible. So I just
want to highlight one thing. Again we're
not doing this now but I just want to
highlight one thing. We spoke out at
first glance a very
of is it or is it not
what's the
is going to be possible. So maybe here
it should be possible. But then again by
so maybe that's why it's possible. Over
here there's no dinkabal. So maybe it's
the tantamount to being from the way the
gumar speaks out the tutum is a little
different right? It's a little nuance.
It's not that super highlevel mahalik
that we suggested you'd be able to
approach the shil. The gumar is to the
gumar's just for the sake of accuracy is
the first side of the gum is
that maybe we view the asiches
and the ver is because we view as the so
it's
the other iss
and the way rashi explains if aaris is
poss Then came to be possible as well.
Either way on my so
I have a what's my
is from the beginning of paramas and
that's why we're discussing this right
now. What does say
I'm sorry from the right in the
beginning of the par you would have
thought
it says the word.
Now, if you're going to tell me that is
possible when it comes to listen to
this is all the
colliding. Why do you need to tell me
the word to be that there's no of
because oh I have a m in the par it's
poset you know why it's posh because the
minute the dam is over the ear space of
the bag it's as if it's on the bag
there's a concept of
so it's as if it's on the bag if it's on
the bag it's ple
Once the dam is ple at that point it's
not subject anymore to the laws of dam
it has to be dam so if you're going to
tell me that there's
when it comes to
then why do I need a p to tell me that
there's no damos
by typically it's anyways dle because
it's in the of the
which makes it
must be there is no but the said there's
no and the reason there's no is because
I could always tell you
maybe the case of we I need the
is talking about where the dam never
went on top of the earpace of the bag
but it went from the straight onto the
bag. It it literally it touched it. It
was
and being that it literally touched it.
It never became
in between. So it was never not
that's why I would need to come on to
one last shy ley had a sh who did he
asked the shil from soar doesn't say but
some have the gear
what would be if went on a bag and then
it went from that be onto another so the
shil is is that second kibos or not so
what's the shibus
do we say that once it went on the first
be it required kibos being that required
kibos it doesn't have the ability to
make the other bag require kibos. The
way Rashi explains is very because once
the dinner this dam is that it's kibos
so it's not lazo anymore. So if it's not
so when it touches the second it doesn't
have the ability to be the second kibos
because the dam could only be kibus when
it's maybe that that was the shil. So
rebi told him back
this is a shila ton kibos for sure
requires kibos. Wow. And he sent him out
of shock. I'm going to tell you why.
If that
goes on a if you want to go ahead and be
it's
then it's going to be okay I hear that
we were under the impression that being
that it's so now is but you can tell me
that is so then for sure it's going to
be okay. And by the way, just to be
clear here, we're talking about a uh
regular damas of a right. We're not
talking about because that never
requires kibos and it's obviously
talking about where was right. So you
don't have because if it wasn't there's
anyways no. So it was so it's a regular
you would think other than the fact that
maybe it requires but that's said if
it's still going to be fine
because I don't like
that even though it's true
doesn't require that was the safe of the
but if you remember the Mishna said it
doesn't matter if the dam
But not everybody agrees with that
hold
this
right you had a proper being that you
had a proper cababo therefore there was
already a sobi said to me it's not a I
mean asked
but the end of the day told him it's not
a why is not a sh because if then it's
for sure good it sounds like ley was
working with that is possible cuz like
Rashi explains if it needs kibos it
doesn't sound like you're allowed to do
a haz and he rebi went there and he said
even if is going to be pos but I hold
not like even though reb is the author
of the Mishna I don't hold like the
Mishna I hold that if it had a
is then it is
and if that's the case in this case for
sure is going to be kos either way
what's the second half of the d so it
intersected a little bit with our but
really the second half of it discussed
different is related to
number one
is there or is it not another if it was
from the
is it considered or is it considered
the last sh was very much
and that is
that second beggar would require Why
keep us or not? Tomorrow's D look at the
top of the
we're going to start with another and
we're going to continue along this theme
for the next several D from Russia.