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Today's DA is invas.
So the Mishna is
concluding its discussion of the first
Mishna in the Per and that is the of.
So you have and something got a little
bit mixed up. The question is how do you
go about with the so the first few cases
in the Mishna discussed were that's
with
and then the Mishna got involved we're
all but being that different
have different
as a result so what do you do with that
got mixed up and then the Mishna
concludes by saying
all
can get mixed up
and can never get mixed up. Meaning it's
not physically possible for a to get
mixed up. Says the what's the reason for
it? presumably the highest
because a was always and a was always if
that's the case
and an should also never be able to get
mixed up was also always by zar meaning
if a katas and an got mixed up you would
know which one is which one is a male
one's a female that's something that
physically you can identify a kat and
ana have the same physical
characteristics the katas is always ana
and the is always but the says
There is a
and that is the mel if he would do
he too would bring a carbon but his
katus would be different than the
ordinary person the ordinary person's
katus a had to be a koa b it had to be
either a or a kisbas he had two options
there was a menu he could choose from if
you want you could bring the female
sheep if you want it could be the female
goat whereas if the nasi is the one that
did the aa it had to be the s it had to
be of the goat variety. Number one.
Number two, it had to be a male. But the
point is, it's possible then for a kas
to be nare with an if the is ai it's a
z. The is always a z. So that's why the
mishna didn't say that it's not possible
for to bear. It is possible. How is it
possible if it was a but the gar says
but for the same price? Then why does
the mission say that and asham can never
get mixed up?
say it's not true could be the but theor
says no there it's different because
because the type of animal that the
asham is is an animal that has wool as a
result even though the asham is a z and
the of the is but they're different
animals so being that they're different
animals you're going to be able to know
which one is which whereas the could be
bo as So it's possible for a and to get
mixed up. They could be both the is
always the is and the could be as a
result there it's possible is when it
comes to the it's never going to be
possible because if it's a it's going to
be a the only time it's a is if it's a
never as a result it's not possible says
how is it possible for the carbon and
the carbon to be the said
any other permutation of two carbon it's
possible to have au
even though they were both they were
both but one had to be up to one years
old the other one had to be two years
old the carbon had to be whereas the so
can you tell the difference between an
animal that's one years old and an
animal that's 2 years old
says
doesn't say anywhere in
that it has to be and as a result
interesting. So we could assume
therefore that it's ben like the carbon.
So it could be mixed up. You're right.
The standard ash maybe can't get mixed
up with the carbon because the would
know that this one is one years old.
This one's two years old like this.
They'll be able to sort it out. But
there's the
where the doesn't say two years old. It
says which is one there could be
alternatively
it's possible that you would not be able
to determine the difference between an
animal that's one years old and animal
that's 2 years old. As a result there
it's possible that it will not be able
to be sorted out. That's why the Mishna
refers to it as
so there's some rate to speak out but
let's get the moving and we'll pick it
up a little bit later
with the carbon
with
what do you do says there's actually an
option meaning you don't have to do what
the previous Mishna said previous Mishna
said that anytime
so what you do is you let the animals
graze until they get a
When they get a you're the animals,
right? You can't be poach unless it has
a so you wait for it to get a once you
get a m you're what does p mean? You
sell it. You sell the animal. By selling
the animal, you transfer the kadusha
from the animal onto the money that you
just got to muras, the animal, the money
that you got in exchange for the animal.
So let's say the animals were worth
$1,000. You're gonna now transfer the
kadusha from the animals to the $10
bills. This $1,000 now has kadusha. You
take that money that has kadusha, you
buy
and you bring those behem as carbon. So
at the end of the day, you're going to
have a be you're going to take the long
scenic route. Instead of just being mak
of these animals, you're going to
transfer the kadusha from the animals to
the money to the money back to an
animal. You're going to end up bringing
the kaban. There was no other option.
What else were you supposed to do? If an
is on the dollar is here, right? There's
always going to be issues stating that
the Mishna says if an was
said, you don't have to do this. What
you could do is bring both of them.
What's the problem?
Okay. But means even soften. So you
could bring both animals but soften
in terms of so
you'll just eat it. What's the problem?
Point is you can bring both. Both the
doesn't speak the are
so you're not going to have a problem
with this either. They both have the
same. It's not like one of them has a
the other one has to be. So what's the
problem? You could do both. You're
right. The are different. But as long as
you're as long as you do the both and as
long as you eat both,
it shouldn't be an issue.
a very important
principle which we're going to see soon
has implications
and that is
there's a rule that you're not allowed
to take something that's do something to
it that may cause it to become possible.
So you're not allowed to make truma or
kshim anything that has kadusha you
can't go ahead and make it possible from
the same vein you can't do something
that may expedite the process of it
becoming possible by saying that this
schlam which is one of the two animals
you don't know which one is which can
only be eaten what happens once the day
and the night passes you're going to
have to get rid of the schlum you're not
going to have a choice cuz m suffic that
it might be asham which is in which case
the bus would be nicer in which case the
bus would carry a you wouldn't be able
to eat it. So you're expediting you're
being maybe
so to speak. So the said this is not a
good option. You cannot go and eat aim
as if it's a carbon. What do you mean
I'm being very sounds like a wonderful?
I'm going to only eat.
I'm very from. No, it's just the
opposite because you're potentially
bring this a double-edged sword and as a
result there's aus over here said I'm
not comfortable with this. I need you to
eat a schlam like a schlam and a nam
like anam. So what then are you supposed
to do? You do what the previous mission
said. Anytime you have au of
you let them get a you pay to them. You
buy a new you buy a a new what if they a
new schlam and a new ash. What if they
weren't the same amount of money? So you
have to lay out money out of your own
pocket and assume that the most
expensive animal was both the asham and
the schlam. It wasn't both. But you have
to assume either as a result you'll end
up bringing both carbonis. You'll bring
the ashum like an ashum and the slum
like a but to bring the slum like an
ashum. Yeah, you could sh the itself and
that's not the point. That's not the
issue. The issue is is eating being and
setting a more stringent time frame to
be able to eat the carbon
is what happens if the
was done. Everything was done. And now
you have a buser of an. So there the is
here even just eat all the
argued they argued in the because there
was an alternative option right we have
to give you an option. So in the what's
the option the option is let them get
sell them and bring two carbonas where
you'll know which is which. But over
here where you have the there's nothing
you could do with it. So the only option
is to eat it or get rid of it. That's
not a good option. As a result, just be
for both of them. But to go to and be
for both, that's not something that you
do. So at first glance, it would seem
from this that
is not so much.
It's a
fundamental where the seem to say
you're not allowed to do anything to him
that may expedite the process of it
becoming possible. Whereas didn't seem
to be so sensitive to that idea. Rabim
didn't have such an issue as we're going
to see now. The garra is going to bring
a whole block gum. At the end it's going
to digress to the sugl
we'll see how we get there. But for now
the gumar is going to digress with a
whole block of garum of different places
in shas non is related where this is and
appears to there was a that was standing
in front of and he told him the
following
if somebody has
you're not allowed to take the money and
buy truma with it and the reason is
because by doing that you're going to be
that you have. Now, we know that you're
not allowed to do business with perish,
but it doesn't mean you can't ever sell
perish
means you can't on a commercial level
sell and mass manufacture and produce
perish. That's not something you're
allowed to do. But if you have and you
want to sell it in a in a barter
economy, it's something that you're
allowed to do. Stating that with many
limitations. Additionally, the kadusha
of the perish is going to transfer from
the pay onto the money that you got in
exchange for selling the perish. If you
now take that money and you buy
something else, the kaduca is going to
continue to transfer. It's going to go
now from the money to follow the the
paper trail. Follow the money. So the
kaduca is now going to go from the money
onto the new pis that you bought. So if
you sell peris take the money and buy
truma, the truma that you're buying has
kaducas. Now parents that have kadusha
are limited in terms of this you have to
eat it before this man beer once this
man beer comes at that point is you have
to get rid you have to burn the perish
you have to you have to destroy it
doesn't have doesn't have any
limitations you could have shuma today
and you could eat it in 10 years from
now there's no such issue says this in
front of based on that I'm going to tell
you that
that you're not allowed to buy truma
with money that you got for selling
because now you're going to have chuma
that has limitations in terms of when
you're allowed to eat it. You could only
eat the truma up to this mir. What
happens if this m beer passes? You're
going to have to get rid of the truma.
You're going to be bringing that's not
something you're allowed to do. So says
told this to and you know said it's a
very nice but I know would not have
agreed with this because
said you're
just like argued in
would argue in that as well like we
pointed out
is not a parac
It's it's a it has global implications.
It's it would be
says well but says the told him I don't
think would argue over here because
only said
is between an
so what are my options? Either I could
let them both get a be to them and buy
two new carbonas or I'll bring both of
them and I'll eat the as if it's a
carbon I maybe
holds that this is a better option but
we find ourselves in avid situation over
here it's not I have money that money
should I go buy even wouldn't tell you
to buy agrees as an idea
in our he doesn't know what to Do the
let them get like that says that true
doesn't hold the that you could be maybe
I'll ask you says
so it's interesting is not allowed to
eat kachar that eats kachum it's really
bad a tummy that eats kachch that's
there's plenty of really difficult sugis
in that deal with a tummy that eats
kachum a kayen he's the one that eats
kachin so you would think that maybe
when Kay eats kachin, right? He should
be sensitive. He should do it when no
one's looking. Should do it discreetly,
quietly. Mean, after all, this is
something that's off limits to the whole
world. It's just the opposite. When the
cayenne ate, he ate it.
He could eat it however he wants. If he
prefers it, roast it. That's fine.
He likes it rear
medium rear. Well done. He could do
whatever he wants. But
if he wants, he could put spices in it.
And the spices could be either or it
could be it could be chum as well.
What's how could you take
and spice
has a limited amount of time of how long
you're allowed to eat it? You could eat
either for a day and a night if it's
you could eat forever. So by you taking
the putting truma into his. So what's
happening? He's knocking off this man. I
thought you not let her bring the soul
says the
he told him asking from
is only there's very few things that
have
other say that have many what kind of is
but for sure doesn't have that there's
no so That's why that's don't make me
rise
with money. That's so has
he was he now has
he's allowed to eat. He wants to buy
he's not allowed to take his and buy
truma with it
because he's being
says because only
you can eat wherever you want. So is
like it's only
you only eat
anyway. So by you now having trauma that
has
again you're limiting it's in this case
it's not the
it's the but it's the same thing you're
creating some limitation to the that's
something that's wrong
says it's now here seems to be telling
you that it's okay you're allowed to do
it this should be not like again we
started off right that number one number
two you see
something that's going to be okay. So we
had spoken out when the Tana told that
you're not let to buy Truma. So what was
Ra's comment? It's not like because is
not sensitive to the idea of
so they told who said you're over
reading and overanalyzing
never said that he's insensitive to the
idea said when you have a you don't know
what to do he prefers this option but I
think even would say you're not let with
it because you're being
potentially being
this is checkmate because here you
that said that it's okay to buy with
even though you're being which means
that you're being soar says when heard
that Ra was crying said I hear you're
right I thought only said in a case of I
see over here he said it in a case it's
going to be
when this whole was presented to
said I don't know why you didn't ask him
please I would have asked you another
cook a vegetable that has with oil of
and the reason is
says it's like the same exact case we're
discussing and it's
so of course of course says the isn't it
would say it's okay
said
I'll tell you why I didn't ask from
there cuz we had already asked from
Tavlin
and what did he answer when I told him
that the from the fact that the is spice
his with truma he saidon
he deflected me he said don't bring me
ras from cases of dabon's discussing
we're discussing cases of
I know he would have told me the same
thing that's why I didn't ask the he
would have told me
his vegetables only have
but says these
What do you mean the bryer didn't
discuss or that Mishna
is is is not discussing where the truma
was a yerk? What was the case of the
Mishna? The case of the Mishna was where
the was
and the sheman was
by the way if the was the true it should
have said
it says just the opposite. It says
what's the difference? Rashi says is she
is for sure something that's
so for sure
where it's and still you see is m but
the says
so said I hear so you're right but it
still wouldn't have been a good kasha
you know why because we asked from in
our shim was mal and what did he Hey
that our mission is different. Don't
bring me is insensitive to the idea of
because the reason in the he said that
you could it's because it's it was
already in the case of
the case was where it was meaning you're
not going and taking a and then pouring
in. It's talking about where the were
already mixed up. They were ready. It's
just a question of cooking it. But the
says if they're anyways mixed up, why
would anybody argue? You're not bringing
anything. So the says,
but the says what does that have to do
with over there?
There is an
you tell me that mixed up already. If
they're mixed up, what option do you
have? I mean says the if anything
shouldn't the precedence be
the safe of our where the of the
happened after the
we already have the we're over there
there's no at all there's no option
so why would argue says I'll tell you
why
we have
you don't know what's what there is no
option This here there is an option.
What's the option? The Rabonan held that
there was an option. You can't cook it
cuz you could try to squeeze out the
sheen of the shell
and as a result there is a ton. That's
why the Rabon aren't happy with you
going ahead and cooking it
who held not that way cuz he held how
you going to squeeze it. How you going
to squeeze a lot? you're going to ruin
the
should you squeeze it a little bit.
It's you're not going to be able to take
it out as a result is not a real option.
If is not a real option. So you can't
say it's talking about where it was
already because if it was already the
would have argued must be it wasn't it
didn't find itself in this original and
still you see this is not a case of it's
a case of the it's a case of and still
mater
you know I heard this exchange you had
you were trying to figure out
and and was
he had a riot from
Khan
is and
this is the best here. You see clearly
we're dealing with something. We're
dealing with she is everybody agrees by
she's a
we're not discussing this you literally
you can line up your ingredients and
you're you're cooking
and one of your ingredients could be how
do I know it's would never argue if it's
and still is so it's clear it tells
that it's so posh to me that says in our
there's no problem being maybe It's not
only in the case of our Mishna we're at
some super case. No, it would be true.
That's basically how he comes out.
Exhale. So just uh to lighten up uh a
rather complicated D and that is so this
idea of
is something that underlies that we're
all familiar with that is the says in
talking about that you say
when you says, "See, you're supposed to
say it with a niggan." Why? Cuz it's a
say.
So is going a little out of character
and little muser, little insight into
the future.
So this is a song that's going to be
with the forever. The only niggan we're
going to have is the the
as a result. When you say it, you should
say it with a niggan. It says
you don't say
you also don't say it on
you don't say the reason is
because the carbon wasn't brought on
those days it wasn't brought on
additionally
you shouldn't do it either
you shouldn't say
and that is the meaning it says the Rama
in
that is a beautiful beautiful
and it's a it's a
and that's why it's a
stating that there are certain days you
have to read the fine print literally
the Rama there are days when you don't
say when you say you don't say it on
you don't say it on Pes you also don't
say it on Pes
And you don't say it in Arabic. Why? Cuz
those were all days where you didn't
bring the carbon tide. There was no
carbon on Shabas. That's easy because
Shabas and Yontiff you can't bring and
the was a carbon. There's no carbon on P
because along with the came some of
which were can't have on PES. As a
result, there's no carbon on PES.
There's also no carbon on PES and oner.
Why not pes? So now you have to look at
the even finer print says the
you want to know why there's no carbon
ones. It's very simple because
you're ready not allowed to eat. the
carbon was if you're going to bring a
carbon first thing in the morning on
you're going to limit the amount of time
that you have to eat the carbon
we just learned. So being that you're
not allowed to bring
in a way where you're going to limit
it's because you may thereby being
expediting this idea of being
that's not something you can go do and
you have a much smaller just like you
can't bring the if it's as if it's an
asham you cannot bring a carb when you
know you're not going to have the full
to be able to eat it. It's the same
reason says the that the concludes
and says that you don't say cuz you're
going to make a carbon you know why cuz
the carbon was
always follows the so that night after
who's going to sit down and eat the
carbon no one's allowed to eat so being
that you couldn't eat it either so you
have the same issue on kipper as you do
on the reason you don't say kipper is
the same reason you don't say it on on
pes right I
has to do with Yeah, it does. It's
because eating the after
is eating after
after that's not something you're
allowed to do.
This is the underlying reason for that
in everybody's something that everybody
knows. It's interesting. It's
interesting, right? Right. Right. It's a
good point. It's not so simple by the
way. It's so posh that there was no tish
in the time of the B mikdash. Second
BTS, right? There's avah in the rash
where the says that there were times
during the second mik where they used to
mourn
because never really replace. So there
was a concept of mourning
during so in that case you would have an
issue but this is but the bottom line is
this the bottom line is that this is
this stating that there's a there's an
interesting discussion in the and there
were that were written by about this
that you don't say on meaning that we
know
and it's really based on the fact that
the discusses the days that the were
brought
We know but the garra says there was no
pes and there was no carbon but the
garra does not say that same
doesn't mention anything about
and others were very very bothered why
is it then if right that you don't say
based on a nice that you have the same
problem
why then didn't say they didn't bring
the carbon tida it's mash they did bring
the they did bring the carbon tida it's
mash they did bring the carbon tida I
what happened to
so if you go through the and you
summarize there's really two that the
have the first is maybe there's a
difference between the carbon which
could only be eaten a few hours into the
day versus the
versus the carbon on where you would
have the whole day to eat it. And the is
really based on the fact that even
though the or the says that you have a
right to eat the carbon but it's more to
eat it during the day. It's not to wait
until the night. So by the carbon by
where you have the whole of to eat it.
So the fact that you're not going to be
able to eat it during the time maybe
that shouldn't bother me so much as
opposed to ones where I don't even have
the whole day to eat it. I have however
many hours into the day that I'm allowed
to eat
was also we ready. We're mocked in a few
hours before that.
So you're not going to have the full day
to eat it. So there it's going to be
different
has a whole on this saying on
and has a very big problem with this
argument. He brings that others wanted
to make this argument made this
argument. Others argued it as well. But
he says I have a very big problem with
that. You know why?
cuz what was the starting point of this
whole discussion of being maybe it was a
carbon that was within
the
it's
by you now eating the as if it's an
you're being
says I want to tell you
it's on the talks about Listen
what the says
that's the
let's say it's not a it's a regular
you should eat it the day that you
brought the carbon
and you could also eat it the next day
meaning if there's anything left over
the next day to put the cameas in this
Pik
It's okay. Interesting. So,
the you have an extra day. If something
is left over, it's not a problem. You
could eat it. But listen to how the says
it.
Eat it the first day.
What about the next day? Okay. If there
was something left over on that next
day, you should eat it too. says the
Raan the way I'm reading the P the Torah
didn't just say and eat it for two days
in a night the Torah says
just like it said it regarding the
supposed to eat it the first day it just
so happens I woke up in the morning and
there's still basel left over okay
you should eat it it's not yet it's not
you don't have to worry about it you
could you could eat it but when are you
supposed to eat it supposed to eat it
day one the every is the same way this
man
of when you're supposed to eat the
carbon is the first day when the is with
the I could be my
I could eat it like an which is what
can't I do I can't eat it the second day
the second day shouldn't be any
different than the
and just like over here it's there's a
problem that's where his
by the fact that I won't be able to eat
the second day then the fact that I
can't eat the carbon should be a problem
as well. Either way, that's how the
maritime
shu knocked out the first. The second
aura that's discussed by the and this
was said to inu and that is that
could be there's a between eating pes
and eating bleium kipper and what's
that? You're not allowed to give a
cotton on PES. And the reason you can't
give a p number one is you have to get
rid of your so you pos can't even have
right you say oh he's a child he's not
you can eat ones right think about that
right
you ever see a cut eating a sandwich on
on what do you mean he's a what's the
difference he's not okay I could be I
can't be you go
you get involved in all the super duper
raid that involves no there's there's no
person in the world that has a anywhere
in that says they give a cut a sandwich
on on PES. What's the reason? Because
you can't have on PES. It has to be
gone. There's this about number one.
There's another reason. It's also about
No, you can't be na. So if your
four-year-old is going to eat lunch and
it's going to be pes you, the god are
benefiting from the fact that he's
eating. He's not hungry anymore. He's
not clutching. So as a result, you're
benefiting from it. is also food is not
so
by the way this is a classic classic
there's a lot in this
we've spoken out this truth from the
many many times regarding completely
unrelated but says is a build has a rash
in
and aug is invit
it's in this right here that's
this is but either way later in the
so
that I know what the difference is you
know what the difference is
you can't eat from the carbon at all so
it's gone I can give it to says you
wouldn't be able to give it to and
says says that how do you make a shako
on right we make a shako on yum
yum it's part of the shaku is supposed
to be so discuss goes works it through
how do you make a shaku on yumipper
should you drink it you're not allowed
to drink should you make the
and not drink
and one of the suggestions theor says
why do you make a shak the same way you
make it on yum all and then give it to
the cotton to drink a cotton's allowed
to drink even to a cotton who's not
fasting it shouldn't be a problem and
the garra says
The gummor says that if you're going to
give this to a c it's going to be a
problem. Why? And the way the explain it
that ordinarily you don't have to be
worried that a cut eats him kipper he
may eat when he's a god also. He knows
now he's a cut and when he's when he
gets older he'll start being
and then eventually he'll understand
that he's not allowed to eat him kipper.
Nothing bad is going to come from that.
But if you're going to go and give him
he may think in his cot mind that even
though you're not eating him kipper but
maybe yitz is different. Maybe this is
an exception to the rule. He may not be
able to make that. So when you give him
a
you can't even give it to a says just
like not let give the
and that's why not because when the
works through all the options this
option was shot down. So for the same
reason he wouldn't be able to give him
kachcha because now the cousin's going
to think that kacham is okay when I get
older. I what I no he may not be able to
make says
wrote back to the I hear the why you
want to argue like many did with bottom
line is many came out not like you have
to look in your to see what your meaning
is but the bottom line is is that he
says it again with that just like you
don't say
you don't say and it's both for the same
reason
therefore you shouldn't have been able
to bring the carbon on Arab just like
you weren't able to bring the carbon on
PES either way. So the has been
discussing this sh could you be maybe
could you not and specifically
so we discussed it in the context of two
types of
that were we discussed it in the context
of
and we discussed it in the context of
and
we're now going to discuss it again in
the context of kachchin but this time
the carbonos that a mitzra used to
bring. So a mitzyra
can be and come in two shapes and sizes.
He could be a mitzra ml. He could be a a
mitzyra musker. Mitsyra musker is when
someone goes to the k and he has seen
one of a mits. The ms is not short. It
is a nega. It's not a nega. So what he
would do is he would lock him up for
seven days temporarily and during that
interim period of time you know he had
to be he had to be cast away at the end
of the seven days if everything was
okay. So there was a very brief tah
process that he had to follow and as
long as he followed that process he was
okay. If a mitz is found to be a real
full-fledged mitz so then he becomes
what's called a a mitsra ml and when he
completes
his now he's meaning the nega goes away.
So he has to go through a much more
intense Tahra process. What he has to do
is number one he has to wash his
clothing. He has to shave his head. He
has to go away for another seven days.
On the eighth day he brings two carbon.
Then he brings he brings the part of
went on the
part of went on the So the process gets
much more complicated. What happened
over here was we had a we have a suffic
he was locked away he doesn't remember
why they put him away he's not sure was
I ml or was I musker if he was a ml he
asked to bring the carbon the problem is
maybe he was never a ml maybe he was
only a musker if he was a musker then he
doesn't have to bring the carbonas so is
there any way to get this person out of
his misery where we have this suffic
he's not sure if he's a m and this whole
process or not so the garra says like
says
from old and we need he said I can work
it out maybe what you could do is is he
can bring his carbon the and together he
can bring the
and he can say the following make the
make the
here it is and if
shall
The ash shouldn't be an it should be a
can be or it could be in a cave could be
anything. So I want this to be instead
of
and now that what we'll do is
we'll bring it but what's the big deal
and what we're going to do is is we're
going to do the
we're going to treat it like a and we're
going to treat it like like an but the
bottom line is is that what do you see?
You see the was
to be maybe
said it's okay because he's telling you
that you're bringing a carb and you're
not sure if it's an or what do you mean
that he's
not a he's not really it's a and eating
isn't this another riot that holds okay
so the says don't bring me riots from
here so over here this is a man that we
said we're trying to put him out of his
misery he doesn't know could he he wants
to be tar and he has no way of ever
being tar. So even shim was was going to
work out a way for him to find to make
him tired. The point is he can't tell
this to all the other because here we're
trying to help the mench over here it's
going to be different says the gar. So
we mentioned this we mentioned it
because of the sh of and the say is no
problem you could have a suffic to bring
the
just bring the on the aslim and it's all
good. So the gar works this all out. So
the you figure out how to do it. You
bring it either as an or like what about
the like the
like
you could be of the but if it's not how
you so the Gar says and it's based
really on a on a later in the where the
gar says if a person wanted to bring a
carbon and the whole carbon was she
carbon she could do it you could bring a
carbon eight right it's different types
of carbonas that are unconventional that
if you know the rest of the story you
know you could bring so one of the
carbonas that you were allowed to bring
was a shem they did with the she
incidentally there was a whole
is going to talk about now that was done
with the she could bring the and you can
say if I'm a so this is part of my of
not being a anymore if not it's
a there was no with
that it's doesn't he have to do says the
mitz do what's the
You have to take the shemen and make
seven
a regular of you don't do that. So what
am I supposed to do? So says why can't
you do it? It's not a problem. So you do
both. You'll do on the side that it's
and you'll do on the side that he's a
he's a
it's still not so simple
because what's going to happen is is as
soon as you do the kam you're not going
to have all the and there's a that in
order to bring
the had to be complete at the time that
you did the z so you're going to first
do the kam then you're going to do the
zhaz when you do the z you don't have
the full cuz you did the kamitzah
as a result
going to be puzzled. So the says do the
and then
bring a little bit more and make up that
difference of what you just took out and
that says
before the
it's not a problem. You can pray to
the mitz doesn't have but on that it's a
she
doing kam you're going to have to do a
hakar you're going to have to take some
of the oil you're going to have to put
it on the m so how do you what are you
supposed to do so says right just do the
say now I'll tell you this is a trick
question because when exactly you
supposed to do thear matva if you do it
after you did the matva so you do the
mat MV and then you do the
benit. So it comes out you did kamitzah
then you did matva and now you could do
the actara. So you don't have all the
you don't have all the shemen
at the time of that you had at the time
of the because you had to do the on the
side it was and
you're not allowed to do if you're
missing a little bit of the
and if you're going to do it before you
do the matva so you're going to do the
kam and then you're going to do the
hakara and then you're going to do the
matva you can't do that either cuz
you're not let
something that you still have to do and
there's a possibility over here that
you're going to have to under that you
have to do. You have no right to do yet.
So the bottom line is you can't do after
the matva. You can't do it be before the
matva. So the question is when exactly
do you do it?
What you do is is you before the you
tell me how can I be mate before the
isn't there of
the what you do is you have in mind that
you're not doing you have in mind that
you're just adding fuel to the fire
you're just adding the times
this is just means if you want to put it
on the
this is a trick the had in another but
the bottom line is you could put it on
you do it beforeh you're running into a
problem.
You're not going to have a problem
because you have in mind that I'm not
doing you have in mind that what I'm
really doing is I'm doing so before we
end just one final. So really going back
to the beginning of the d the first d
before the of
we discussed the last of the first
mishna of the paric and that was all
different types of carbonas can get
mixed up with the exception of the and
the reason the kas and the asham can't
get mixed up because one is a zar and
one is a said to what about the
said no the kas and the could get mixed
up because even though the kus was
usually in a ka but there was one kas
that was a z which kas was a
being that the was so the can get mixed
up with the and as a result it would be
possible to have this mixup just one and
that is why is it that the was different
so it's interesting the
ordinarily was a whereas when it comes
to the over there it was
the the
said that the is as follows based on a
in
days on the days over there is
discussing another well-known.
So we know that
why there's one time by the way out
loud. It's brought down
either way.
The reason is not to be because you're
gonna hear
and you know maybe a person's because of
that he did and he's inserting things in
the middle of and
just said everybody just be quiet
everyone can leave their issues between
them and so simply to protect the
dignity of people made across the board
just
says the and this is the safe of this
which when you learning is
I'll prove to you there's such a concept
not to be a cuz where they bring the
carbonas bit of soften where they bring
the carbon bit of soften now the is
brought is not brought maybe on the to
but it's not really person that's bring
and still you see they brought them in
the same place wouldn't you think there
should be a special place for the katas
the territory. No, we don't want a
person who's bringing a carbon kas to
walk in. He should have to be
embarrassed. So they said, "Bring it the
same place you're bringing the island
LIKE THIS. NO ONE'S GOING TO IF YOUR
CARBON IS A KATAS, your carbon is an so
you see how sensitive the was to protect
the dignity of the is for that same
reason.
It's supposed to be
is that true and the are brought exactly
the same." Again, when you're learning,
but when you learn,
what about the
goes?
So the Gmorra says the only one that
knows what's going on at the time of
this is the but the the didn't really
know and as a result no one's going to
really
what about
is
so you're going to see a guy's walking
with an animal he's going to know is it
a male animal or is it a female animal
right you're going to be able to see so
if you're so worried about protecting
this person and that's why the of both
are in the same place because that's
something that the ham would be able to
see and they'll know what kind of carbon
you're bringing. So why did we make one
a male and one a female? So the gumar
says it's true that the is a female but
at the same time it has a tail and it's
very hard unless you look very closely
it's very hard to know if it's a zer and
a and being that it's going to be hard
to know nothing bad is is going to
happen.
That's true. If it's a Kevas, it has
this tail that's covering it. But if
it's a because you have an option when
you bring you can either bring a kib or
you can bring a
says no.
You know, he embarrassed himself.
He could have brought a he chose to see
he embarrassed himself. You don't have
to worry about the person that chose to
bring us here.
What about
where it has to be a that's what the
terrorist says. You don't have the
option of
you're right. You just got it.
Now you know why he brings the reason he
brings because he want everybody to know
that he was you know
he was that's the bottom line and
because he was we want the world to know
that and that's why he has to bring the
so ordinarily it could be a why it has
the tail to cover it to protect the
dignity of the when it comes to it's
going to be different. Bottom line is
bottom line is said. So you see that the
ni whose carbon had to be a had it been
a everybody would have noticed.
Everybody would have noticed and even if
the ni would have brought a kizva it
would have been possible to know that
the nasi just did an ara. So he says
like this it's important for every year
to be dignified right you always have to
look at people and and see them in the
in in the most optimum light. But when
it comes to a ni who's the nasi thei is
the melik.
If you're going to see the walk into the
base of Mikd and you're going to see
that he's bringing a carbon and you're
going to know from the carbon that he's
bringing that he was it could be it's
going to diminish the cover that you're
going to have for him and
you have to have cover for him. So
what's he supposed to do? He should
bring a sira. That's not good because
then everyone's going to know he did an
aa. Should he bring a kisvas even though
it has a tail that's covering but at the
same time if you remove the tail you're
going to know that it's an aa. We can't
take those chances when it comes to a.
So what do we say by the means? If it
brings a zar it's the same. It could be
bring no one's going to know that's
going to protect the so you're not going
to run into an issue of
just end. We're talking about the so
just to end with one and that and that
is the said that we know the wellknown
we've spoken it out many times in the
where the says that
so asked this and I've been around at
the time of the md as a
and I would have done
what kind of carbon would I have brought
would I have brought the kusi
the male version or would I have brought
a kisbarus
Which carbon would I have brought? Now,
at first glance, it's
what exactly Rebi Shiloh was? Because
what's the definition of NSI? Melik.
Rebi wasn't a mel. Rebi was a ni in the
in the looser sense. He was the leader,
but he wasn't a mel. So, we've spoken
now. It's also I think it's
but either way, that's ra that we've
spoken about in the past. But
says that why did he want to know? Oh,
why did he was just curious? I mean what
what this was shield curiosity says I
wonder what would be and I says good
because you have to say carbonus every
day and would you say carbonus if you
wrote a carbon one of the carbon he say
in the morning is a carbon kas rebi
wanted to know which para the he
supposed to read am I supposed to read
the para of the regular
or maybe rebi held I'm supposed to read
the para of the had I had a to bring the
the time of the mdash so every morning
said rabbi when I
I'm going to have a special carbon
special insert in my right if you're
supposed to read you know
that was he says it was this wasn't a
theoretical hypothetical what would be
could be would be type of this was very
much had a Oh
corporalness.