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The following recording of Daf Ayin
Gimmel was taken from the previous shear
on Daf Ayin Beis and is being presented
here again as a standalone recording. As
we make our way onto Daf Ayin Gimmel on
Amud Aleph, that really depends to the
Gemara's
Bakkli Beruba. The reason there's no
Bittel B'Rov in our Mishna is because
we're dealing with a Sha'ar. And a
Sha'ar is a Davar Sheb'Minian. And it's
true, it's not a Davar that everybody
counts. It's a Davar that some people
count, but it's not Ish Darko
L'Monosheinu, but rather it's Kol Sha'ar
Darko L'Monosheinu. The question is,
who's this Tanna in Shas that holds Kol
Sha'ar Darko L'Monos? You want to tell
me it's Reb Meir from the Mishna
Maseches Zera'im? Ani Reb Shimon
Ela Reb Yochanan who said Ish Darko
L'Monos? Who's the Tanna? So the Gemara
said Reb Papa said Hai Tanna Tanna
D'Litzei Tzei'us. The Tanna D'Litzei
Tzei'us. The Od Ma'achol Davar Sheyeish
B'Minian, anything that people sometimes
count, Afilu B'Rabbanan, even for
Issurei D'Rabbanan, the Halacha is Lo
Batal. It's not Batal. But Kol Sheyeish
B'Minian D'Oraisa, certainly when you're
dealing with Issurei D'Oraisa such as in
our Sugya, Tanei Ve'Lo D'Oraisa, Litra
Kitzitz She'Darso Al Pi Igul. So the
context over here is that once upon a
time figs was a very important staple.
It was something that everybody would
eat. You'd eat fig cakes, fig this, fig
that. So figs figs was was a very very
important part of of people's diet. And
the way they used to make figs is you'd
cut figs, you'd leave them out in the
field to dry. Afterwards, they would cut
off the stem and they would then bunch
all the figs together and they had
certain molds. So think of a round mold
like you're making a cake, a round mold.
They would put it on top of this bundle
of figs and it would take on a shape,
you know, depending on the the shape of
the mold. That would be the shape of
this cake and then they would sell it in
the shop. People they would have these
big cakes of figs. You'd cut off a
little bit, you'd buy the whole thing,
you know, whatever it is. And you'd end
up buying this figs. What happened over
here was there was a litra of kitzitz.
Litra a like a litter of
figs of dried and cut figs. So, he took
a
mold and somebody took this round mold
and he that had figs in it and he took
the mold and he put it on top of figs
and here's the punchline, that was
truma.
The
eagle dar so, but this person is running
a commercial factory. He has a whole
bunch of these eagles and he just
doesn't know which one of them was the
one that he put the truma on. So, he
knows that the top Remember it's the top
of one of these molds has a little bit
of truma in it. He just doesn't know
which one. He has a hundred of them. He
has two hundred of them. Whatever it is,
he has a massive factory and he knows
that one of them has in it a a little
bit of truma. So, what are you supposed
to do with it? Or dar so, because of
this or instead of using an eagle he
used the used a a barrel, same
difference. He used the barrel to give
the
fig cake this form. Then you use a dar
so, al pi ki varis. Use the beehive.
People would sometimes use beehives to
make these fig cakes. Then you use a
varis dar so, so mayor. You know, mayor
said that it was a
mayor and mayor said so you often in
shas you find a
on mayor and how to understand the time.
It's not often in shas you find a
cannot in how to understand the time.
So, we have here in this mishna a
mayor and mayor
mayor and mayor had to understand the
mayor and mayor and mayor.
So,
is that truma is bottle of mayor. It's
not bottle of mayor. It's not bottle of
It's bottle of mayor. So, if you have a
hundred times kind of get the truma, the
is it would be bottle. Now, what's
interesting over here is that we know
for sure that the truma is on the edge
of the eagle. It's on the edge of the
It's on the edge of of this
So, the can you use everything that's in
the eagle to go now and be in the bottle
what's on the edge or maybe not because
being that I know it's on the edge
anyway, it's not viewed as being
with what's inside the eagle. Let's say
the eagle is this deep. It goes, it's a
foot deep. So, oh, and I know for sure
the trumah is on the edge. So, why
should I say that the trumah on the edge
is not a reef with what's above it? It
doesn't make any sense. So, the trumah,
you can argue that there's no reason to
allow me to use all that trumah to give
me the sheer of mayor of trumah to now
go be mevatel the trumah. Staying in
this is not the way it works. He says,
"Royness
you look at the top part. That's where
the peah eagle is. That's where the
trumah is." Kilo ain't produce. You look
at it as if it's separated. The bottom
of the is and everything beneath it my
is it counts for the sheer mayor to be
mevatel the trumah. So, Rabbi Shimon
says, "Absolutely not. No way. I know
for sure it's on the peah of the eagle.
I can't use everything that's in the
eagle to be mevatel. What's then the
halacha? If mayor of trumah if this yid
this saichal had a hundred of these
moles
and we know or a hundred and one of
these moles, one of them had trumah, a
hundred of them didn't have trumah, so
then you could say the hundred piece
peah of the eagles could be mevatel the
one that has trumah. But to use
everything inside the eagle to be
mevatel, I know for sure that the trumah
is not there. So, we don't look at it as
being part of the taruvus." So, Rabbi
Shimon says, "If mayor of trumah if
there's a hundred and one of these
things meaning a hundred canegid the
one, then yahu. Then if not, assurim the
trumah are going to be assur.
The flip side is that all the shalayim
is going to be mutar as well. Meaning
what's on the bottom of the path, what's
on the bottom of the kivares, the bottom
of the eagle shouldn't be assur cuz we
know for sure there's no trumah there.
That's the way Rabbi Meir explained the
machlokes Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi
Yehudah. Meaning according to Rabbi
Meir, there's a shitas Rabbi Eliezer
that says a very big chidush that says
royness kilo ain't produce that you can
chashbin everything in the eagle when
you mashier a hundred times heter
canegid the issur. Rabbi Shimon says,
"No, there's no reason you should be
able to mevatel everything that's in the
eagle." So, Rabbi Meir says, "If mayor
of trumah yahu, then assur the
shalayim." Rabbi Yehudah says, he had a
different view. He had Rabbi Eliezer
>> In Rabbi Yehuda's version of the
Rabbi Yehuda was Rabbi Yeshua in Ramez
version. Meaning there's no such sheet
as Rabbi Yehuda says Rabbi Yehuda that
you can be
prudent. Does it make any sense? Why
should you be able to do that? But
rather what it means is is Rabbi Yehuda
held sheet as Rabbi Yeshua that at least
if you have a hundred
the hundred can be
Yeshua and there was Rabbi Yeshua's
sheet Rabbi Yehuda is that a few
soldiers
even if you have 300 loyal
is it's still not going to work. What's
the beer? What's the beer before we
finish the bracha? The beer is because
Rabbi Yehuda understood in Rabbi Yeshua
that you can never be
truma that's on the pit of a an eagle.
That if you have these figs at the mouth
of one of these eagle the value cannot
you cannot be
the reason you can't be is because it's
a
it's
now time is the even if it's a minion
it's not
something that everybody counts. It's
something that people sometimes count.
So you want to have a tunnel that holds
that there's no
by kosher
something that people sometimes count. I
just found it. You know what it is? It's
Rabbi Yehuda a little bit of
Yeshua. Rabbi Yehuda Yeshua who learned
in the
of
that there's no at all. Not only can you
be
about
even if you have a hundred can that you
still wouldn't be able to
the reason is because what's on the pit
of this eagle is not something you can
be about. Why can't you be about?
There's everything. If milk falls into
your meat there's always why in the
world shouldn't it be
the carrots is because it's not
this is a
why is it a
because some people count it but only
some people count it. Here's the time.
So you wanted the time that holds that
that will be the time of our mission.
our mission that said that
our mission that said that the
why aren't they bottle the reason that
bottle is because they're shivaru a
shiver is something that people
sometimes count who's the time that
holds that people some that something
that people sometimes count is kosher
that it shouldn't be bottle so the first
attempt that was the fine base the first
attempt was that it's
by till some of the mission is on the
the second attempt that's the fine
it's rib yahudah a little bit of
in the mission of of literature price
continues and the price that says what
would be if there's a eagle if a person
was
truma that had in it with the eagle of
any day there is a market eagle but he
doesn't know what part of this eagle
might have been very big right so he
doesn't know where exactly the eagle was
he doesn't know if it was
the drama so I feel a little cut from
the so that
everybody agrees in that case that if
that the whole
the whole eagle would be to be
because here you don't know where it is
if you know it's on the pit that's when
you have this what's on the bottom of it
can't be
to be but if you don't know where it is
then the whole eagle all the contents of
the eagle is considered the
all the contents of the eagle is
considered the
so it's portion over there
that everything would be
to be
going back to the original question why
is the
why is the
why is it not bottle said so
you don't have to say that it's going
according to the that holds culture
whether it's in the mission of till some
whether it's rib yahudah a little bit of
in the mission of literature it's
everybody I feel like
everybody could hold that way why
because
I feel like I feel like I because the
about the way back and about is kosher
about is not bottle yeah when you're
dealing with eggs you're dealing with
when you're dealing with literature
there you have clarify. This is it's not
Bal Bal is what's the question? So Bal
is how could you tell me a person even a
Bal
how could you tell me it's Bal Bal is
Bal
but the is not finished. Wait the is not
so we said the first Sugya here in
Parshas
is we have a share in this school one of
the is
or the was necessary in the
Bal is there's no Bal.
I feel the
the says there's no Bal. Why not? Either
because Bal
because Bal is
Bal
I have an I have a way to be able to be
this
be able to bring
from this Bal without having to come on
to the Bal. What's the
the
why can I just out one animal from this
Bal
the name and let me say call the
Bal and let me assume that this
obviously came from the and really in
order to properly understand the is
need a little bit of an intro. Not a
long intro but the point is is that we
know that the word
comes up in many places in but not all
were created equally. The theory of is
all the same and all are learned from
the same
Parshas
after
but there's a lot of different
manifestations of the of the concept of
the one that we've been discussing this
morning is where you have a Bal voice. I
have a
a pot or I have a bunch of animals. I
know most of them are kosher one of them
is problematic. I don't know which one
is which. So there's a Bal
we say that the meat is Bal
to the and I now look at the whole Bal
everything inside the Bal as if it's
what the Bal is. It's a phenomenal
but if something non-kosher falls into a
pot where you have kosher food the
non-kosher becomes kosher. According to
many of you can eat it all
but you can still eat it all but
according to some of you can't even eat
it
because it's
the to be like that but the point is is
the concept of bit of right. Then
there's an idea where I have something
in front of me and I don't know where it
came from. And I know roiv is a certain
way. Like for example, the classic case
of the Gemara is there were 10 stores in
the city, nine of the stores sold kosher
meat, one of the stores sold non-kosher
meat. I have a piece of meat in front of
me. I don't know if it came from the
kosher store or the non-kosher store.
Being that roiv of the stores are are
kosher, so I could assume that it
probably came from there. It's not a
question of bitto. There's no bitto over
here. There's no taruvos. It's just a
piece of meat that has a subject. I
don't know where it came from. So
there's a law of a bit of right. And
then there's a concept of roiv that's
mevarer sfeikos. There's a roiv of um
the no. Roiv achra baal. Roiv people are
not straight for us. Like there's a
whole bunch of different roivs that you
find in shas. Till the iko sugiyo over
here is the roiv of bit of right. And
that the Mishnah said there's no bit of
right. If a shor niskaal is in a taruvos
in a taruvos of other shvarim that are
heter, a shor can't be bottle. Can't be
bottle. Can't become tofel to a taruvos.
Why not? Either cuz it's shavya d'minyan
or because it's a baal chai. But in the
Gemara, let's forget about bitto. You're
right. Bitto is a very big chiddush.
Bitto what happens is things are
changing. There's nebach over here.
Forget about bitto. Forget about nebach.
Het
is heter is heter. Let's keep it simple.
Why don't we just yank out one shor from
this taruvos? Say kol d'parish meruba
parish. I don't need the
shor to become bottle. I took it out of
the taruvos. But let me say that just
like if there's 10 stores in the city,
nine of them sold kosher meat, one sold
non-kosher meat. The piece of meat is
assumed to have come from the no use cuz
kol d'parish meruba parish. So let me
pull out one
shor and say kol d'parish meruba parish.
And why can't I have that right? And for
that there's no law of shavya d'minyan.
For that there's no law of baal chai.
Those are shvarim in bit of right. I
don't need bit of right. I could work
with the other right. With the roiv of
kol d'parish meruba parish. Says the
Gemara, get the nim shoyach. Let's pull
out one shor. The nikuv chadminayu.
Let's be makriv it. The neima and we'll
assume kol d'parish meruba parish. So if
the Gemara that doesn't work
that's all
it's true that says called the polish
but the also says called
connect
the basic understanding of
take the same case there were 10 stores
in the city 9 of them sold kosher meat
and one of them sold non-kosher meat. So
what's the the is that if you find a
piece of meat you could assume it came
from the line not from the one we can
assume it's kosher meat. What would be
if I bought the meat from one of the
stores. I physically walked in I swiped
my credit card. I bought the piece of
meat. I just don't remember which store
I bought it from. Did I buy from the
kosher one or from the non-kosher one?
If I myself take the double that was
polished from the
I'll
call
now how works and how you reconcile with
so many chance anytime you see the word
you know you're going to have
which means short but you know you're
going to see long it it always comes
along because cover is a is a
but that's the base. That's the only
time the
of called the polish is is if it was
polish. When I found it when I picked it
up it was already not part of the
but if I picked it out of the
then the way we look at it is is we look
at the mirror as if it's
if it made a path of the
and we don't say that it was polish it
was polish
you don't have the
called the polish so the saying what do
you want? You want to go ahead and pull
one out I mean this is called the 101
this is called the polish 101. How do we
the
connect
so the saying you're right that's not
what I meant what I meant was I mean
What we should do is we should force the
animals to go away. We're not going to
pull out one animal. The animals are all
cooped up somewhere we're going to knock
it down if it's like a
type of
we're going to knock down the the fence
let the animals go and roll of it and
then we'll take one out but when I take
it it won't be coming out of the time
anymore. So it's it's not a called
connect
and
let's force them to move.
You know what I'm worried about? We're
worried about what's going to happen.
You're going to take an animal and
you're going to be Let's say there were
10 animals. Nine of them were good.
And one of them was a
We just don't know what's what. Right.
So, what are you going to do? You're
going to go and you're going to make it
a parish. You're going to take one and
you're going to bring it as a carbon.
What's going to happen if another coin
is going to go afterwards? He's going to
bring another one. And then another coin
is going to go afterwards, he's going to
bring another one. And you're going to
end up bringing 10. You're going to end
up bringing so many that now already you
will not bring the right versus the
milk. Now it's going to be
that what the one that I was not with
wasn't anymore from the right because to
the contrary I we already not with the
right. You don't have a right to be to
be not with. So, we're concerned that
maybe after you are not with this one
parish, other coins are going to go and
they're going to do the same thing. But
the says I'm going to
you should be worried that So, that's
it. I can't bring the carbon now. I have
to worry that maybe the down will be
possible. Maybe it will be possible.
It's the way of saying that do you
actually say
right? What does it mean to say? What do
you want to say that there's no such
thing as
Once we bring one under the promise of
called the parish nothing can happen
afterwards that can mess me up. So, the
says I hear. I hear. But the says
there's still a
mission you you can have a
Maybe they'll do it at the same time.
Oh, 10 people will do it at the same
time. So, then you're not going to have
the called the parish. But the says that
you can have a
mission you have Is it actually with
something that 10 at the same exact
second? Presumably it won't happen at
the same second. Each one is going to
happen individually. If each one happens
individually, for each
you do have the called the parish.
Oh, robber, so said mission you're
right. What I'm saying is is that I'm
worried that if you're going to go ahead
and be macro of it in this context, you
may be macro of it even without first
spreading them apart. If I take one out
after I spread it, that's called the
partial partial. But if I leave them
together and then I take one out, that's
called Cabo Cabo Cabo. The cash is why
in the mission you Cabo. Why don't we
just take spread them out and then take
one out? What's the answer?
It should work. But it's because it only
works if you do it perfectly. You have
to first spread them out and then slap
it out. But if I don't first spread them
out and slap it out, then I was macro of
something I'm not allowed to be macro of
on the
So we're not going to take chances.
We're not going to take any risks.
That's why the is
you want to know if there's an answer
yet. The answer is not
it's called the partial partial. But
it's only going to work if you follow
the guidelines, the very very strict
guidelines. If you don't follow the
strict guidelines, you can mess it up.
Stakes are very high. You do it right,
it's called the partial partial. You do
it wrong, it's called Cabo Cabo Cabo. Do
you say to the mission is partial Cabo.
You Cabo is we don't want to take
chances. There's no
cuz it's a of a minion or because
I'm not a bottle. The reason you can't
take all the partial partial is because
you would have to work it out perfectly
and the were not willing to take that
risk. In theory, could you do it? Yes.
But at the same time, the
were willing to take that risk. That's
why the mission said you Cabo excel.
So before we go further or before we
end, just
a little bit of red. That is that the
mission is discussing a
of a show Cabo that was
in Cabo.
The mission says the is
Cabo.
The question is why?
Cabo Cabo. We
touched on some of the the Cabo in
as it relates to the of of right. Ask
the Cabo Cabo
as well.
The what's the
of the Gamara that there should be a
bit of a
on a show hand this go. That the show
hand this go should be bottle to all
this walking that are hectic. A show
hand this go you can't be matched. If I
can't be matched a show hand this go,
then how in the world could you say bit
of a right and that the milk is never
to the right in this voice. How could
you take something that's not hectic and
make it hectic?
Bit of a right has powers, but bit of a
right should take a show hand this go
that doesn't have a show
and give it
all you did the din bit of kind of
that's not something that should be able
to be done. Now you could always say the
mission is discussing where it was
hectic beforehand. I am we discuss that
but the past this is not that way. The
past this is we're discussing a show
hand this go that's not hectic. It's not
hectic it was with animals that are
hectic. Ordinarily the mission starts
off by saying you would think there
should be a lot of bit of a right. Well
bit of a right mean that every single
animal in this voice is now a kosher
animal. How could you have every animal
be a kosher animal? In order for an
animal to be
you have to be this one animal in this
voice that never had
so it never had and when it's a show
hand this go you can't be matched it. So
how in the world is there even a have a
mino that there should be a din now in
order to fully appreciate this
in order to fully appreciate this you
have to take three steps backwards and
we have to speak out some right and that
will come back to the and the the right
begins with a well known chuva from the
the and 7000 discuss the following
shadow. We know that have to be made
with
the shadow was where somebody was a he
made
what he did for a living and he had that
had not been covered with and he had a
lot of other
that were covered with and the that were
uncovered with
got mixed up with the that were covered
with
and the shadow was can I sell the
tzitzis can I not sell the tzitzis? Look
here, I have tzitzis here that are
possul. Because if it's not b'shma, the
tzitzis are going to be possul. But it
was nisarev in a taruvos, with rov of
the taruvos, what b'shma? So maybe just
like there's a halacha of bitul b'rov,
there's a halacha of taruvos of acharei
rov. Mah tiskol Let the tzitzis that
were not b'shma be battul to the tzitzis
that were b'shma. Says the Inyanei
D'Igra D'Bei M'sisa, he can clarify a
very similar shaila. We know that matzah
has to be made b'shma as well.
Matzah has to be made b'shma. What would
be if somebody had matzah that was not
made b'shma and it was nisarev in a
taruvos with matzos that were prepared
b'shma?
Could I eat the matzos below Pesach and
be m'kayem my mitzvah d'oraisa d'achilu
matzos? Could I sell it for $100 a
pound? Or or could I not? What's the
shaila? Mitzad echad, I know these
matzos over here that weren't made
b'shma. But then again, it was nisarev
in a taruvos with rov of the matzos that
were made b'shma. I think that that the
halacha always is that you go b'sar rov.
So l'chumra, go b'sar rov over here and
maybe say that the meat of matzos that
weren't made b'shma should be battul to
the matzos that were made b'shma. Says
the Inyanei D'Igra a tremendous
chiddush. This is a chiddush that was
marish alamos. This is a chiddush that's
quoted by the poskim over and over and
over again. It's one of the most basic
fundamental principles that you have to
have when you go through sugiyos of
taruvos and we're learning perek taruvos
right now. Says the Inyanei D'Igra that
that's true that bitul has a koach to
take something that's assur, something
that's possul, and say that if it was
nisarev in a taruvos, with rov of the
taruvos, doesn't have that psul, rov of
the taruvos doesn't have that issur,
we're going to now view this dover
hamuot as if it takes on the din of the
rov, which is it's not going to have the
psul, it's not going to have this
chisar. Stating that if I have something
that was nisarev in a taruvos and I want
it to take on the din of the rov of the
taruvos. But in order for it to really
get that din, it would further a mice?
You would have needed a mice in order
for this status to be held on this
thing? Bitul the right king to life
mice. So where I need the bitul to
remove a hisaron and said I need to get
the bitul to remove a hisaron. But when
I need bitul to stout sue something, to
stout sue mice, that's something I
cannot do. So says the Inyanei the
shmuel is a halacha that the person
that's
preparing the tzitzis has to have in
mind in order for the tzitzis to be
considered lishma. I need to do
something in order for it to be lishma.
Bitul can't be as if I did it. And as a
result, you can't say that the dover
that's not lishma, that was nisarer with
the thing that was lishma, somehow is
going to get the din lishma. It can't do
that. If there's a hisaron, you have
trumah. You're not allowed to eat
trumah. So if I have trumah, which I'm
not allowed to eat, there's a psul,
there's an issur attached to trumah.
Trumah's kodish. But for a zar, for the
man on the street, it's a problem. The
fact that it's kodish, that results in
issur. So bitul's going to say that if
the ray doesn't have the issur, okay, so
now the dover bottle, the dover mut
won't have this issur either. I have a
hisaron. I'm going to remove the
hisaron. That's something that bitul
could do. But if I'm missing something,
if I'm lacking something, bitul can't
stout sue something that I'm lacking. So
if it's a felt lishma these tzitzis,
bitul doesn't have an ability to give it
lishma. If it's a felt lishma the
matzah, bitul doesn't have an ability to
give it lishma. How's this matzah
becoming lishma? How are these tzitzis
becoming lishma? The Inyanei assumed
that for another person. One of the
things that the Inyanei says when he
goes through this trumah is he explains
psat in Rabbeinu Tam that answers the
kasha that we spoke about on Friday. We
mentioned on Friday that Tosafos asks a
gevaldige kasha right here in the end of
Zevachim 111. But this is really a
Tosafos in many places in shas. Tosafos
says that the Gemara says in Maseches
Sanhedrin that if there were people that
were on death row, they were in the
skilah and they were in the srefah, and
they got mixed up. We don't know who's
in the skilah, we don't know who's in
the srefah. So the halacha is they
always get the Misas Kallah. So, the
Gemara says, quoting Rebbe Shimon that
holds that Sreifa is Chamurah, so what's
the Halacha? You give them Skilah, you
don't give them Sreifa. The case is
Madayak that it sounds like that Halacha
is going to be true even if Rov of the
people were Nisrafin. See, you had a
Me'us of Nisaklin and a Rov of Nisrafin,
and the Me'us of Nisaklin would Nisakil
with the Rov of Nisrafin. So, the
Halacha is, you're still going to give
them Skilah. Why? Because you always
give them Misas Kallah. Rebbe Tosfos,
V'Yishal Rebbe Yitzchak Rebbeinu Tam,
Rebbe Shimon says, they always give you
Skilah. Why not? Why don't you say Rov?
And Tosfos, don't tell me you don't go
by the Rov when it comes to Dinei
Nefashos. That was Friday's rate because
we we know from the Gemara in Chulin Daf
Yud Aleph Amud Beis that you do go by
the Rov. And Rebbeinu Tam answered Rebbe
Yitzchak. So, imagine one of them, like
Tosfos, he's sitting in front of
Rebbeinu Tam a fake the Magash
Magashila. Why aren't the Nisaklin
Bottel to the Nisrafin and say that
everybody should get Sreifa? Rebbeinu
Tam said that you don't go by the Rov to
determine what Misah a person is
supposed to get. Very, very Sus. Being
that anyways they're getting either
Skilah or Sreifa, it's just a Shaila,
Skilah or Sreifa. But we anyways know
you're getting Misah. To determine what
Misah you're supposed to get, when it
comes to that, you don't go by the Rov.
It's Yichudua. The Saisah Choshen asked
the Gavaldiga Kashah. We know the
Halacha is that a Bas Kohen that's
Mizana, Yitzchak Rebbeinu Tam, Rebbe
Shimon says, the Eis Tisaref, she gets
Sreifa. So, ordinarily an Eis Ish gets
either Chenek or if she's an Eis Morasa,
she gets Skilah. But a Bas Kohen that's
Mizana, Eis Tisaref,
the Eis Tisaref, she has to get Sreifa.
Tosfos, every Bas Kohen. How do you know
she's a Bas Kohen? Her father's a Kohen.
It's all based on Rov B'Rov Achrayus I
thought when it comes to determining
which Misah you're supposed to get, you
don't go by the Rov. If Rebbeinu Tam is
Gurayach that the Nisaklin are not
Bottel to the Nisrafin, why not? Because
we don't use Rov. Rov Nisrafin to
determine the Eis Misah. Being that
anyways there's a Chiyuv Misah, it's
just a Shaila V'Elu Misah. For that,
there's no Rov. So, Freg
the Saisah Choshen, every Bas Kohen gets
Sreifa. She's one of Shochein to get
Misah. she's going to get panic. She's
going to get scared like an ordinary
Asian sage. No, because she's a best
coin. So now we say no, instead you're
going to get straight for. She don't
like the fact that the whole best coins
mix you say the best coin is because of
her
which is right below
it goes out to her right. So isn't this
the biggest right in the world that you
do go by right to the tournament how
could say you don't go by right TO THE
TOURNAMENT
BEST COIN HERE IS a choice of
the coins
the coins because what are the best how
many? You don't go by right works for
everything. You can be called over the
entire with right but to determine me SO
THAT THAT THAT'S where the buck stops.
What's
in
so you know what I'm saying he's saying
he's saying that right could only take
away
but right can't create a
for a person to be high of straight for
you need a best of the past king plainly
is high of straight for being that you
need a best of the king people can't
create a of the king people can't say
that this if it's bottle we remove the
if it's bottle we remove the
but people can't say that if right of
the people in this have a then they have
this
that they're high of straight for so now
the double moves also going to have that
he's also going to have that he's also
going to be high of straight for that's
not something people has an ability to
do and just like people can't make
something that were not told
and people can't make that weren't
prepared
people can't take someone that doesn't
have a
and the case I'M MAKING THIS DOESN'T
MAKE ANY TIME NEVER MEANT TO SAY THAT
you can't use right to determine
why shouldn't be able to use right to
determine
and it's a passing in the the best
it's all based on a right but at the
time I have to say something else he
meant to hear we're dealing with a bit
of a right bit of a right which works
with
of a net back with a mood gets the din
of the right in which it was
that doesn't work to create a
that's why you're not going to have this
over here. It's interesting that it's
safe in a true war in the nation of
dollar discuss this child as well. So
the child sent the next of the same
exact child that was sent to the other
Yontif and that is he wanted to know if
somebody has sits as that weren't
totally or masses that weren't
and it was necessary with things that
were prepared
you could or you can't. So the first
thing that the discusses do you even say
bitter when it comes to mix this
interesting given you could you use but
you find bitter political regarding
history you have the history true man
you have a possible
and the favor you always find it in the
context of this can I rely on a bit of
to create a
mix for so that I should be able to go
ahead and do a mix for and he said it's
possible to me that it said that you
would be able to then he says the one
that Yontif but then he says one other
thing the show you the show you had
an interesting
he said that by him there was a safer
tire and the safer tire had a I had a
mistake there was a mistake in the safer
tire and they were trying to find the
mistake in the safer tire they couldn't
find the mistake in the safer tire so he
wanted to know that with his that you
could say bitter even for mix voice
maybe you could say that even though
this safer tire has in it
but being that we can't find it let the
in the safer tire be bottle
to all the in the safer tire that are
kosher
and let's say bitter which should be a
kosher safer tire needless to say that
it was not happy with the show you that
it said said what
no way why not this one is very possible
what's this one very good cuz over here
the safer tire is possible there's no
show you the safer tire is possible the
whole show you is sits that are kosher
and sits that are possible so you can
tell me that the sits that are possible
maybe can be bottle to the sits that are
kosher the masses that are possible
maybe can be bottle to the masses that
ARE KOSHER MAYBE GOOD we have a show you
from the other Yontif we have super
duper to maybe be
whatever maybe you can go down that line
but you need to establish that this
kosher and this possible and the
possible going to be bottled to the
kosher. WHAT'S BEING BOTTLED TO WHAT
OVER HERE? THEY SAY THE TORAH IS
POSSIBLE. Once you have the noise in the
safer Torah that's kosher, the safer
Torah safer Torah is right now is right
now possible safer Torah. You going to
tell me the words that are kosher words
are bottled to the words that the word
that's possible is bottled to the words
that are kosher. Words is not a a heft
of if they ask me that you could say
this word is bottled to that word. Then
the could is is that to say that Torah
is possible. I mean that the safer Torah
is not a possible. Probably not going to
have it. I just will end with this and
that is mayan mayan. You know, it's
interesting there's a true from the
safer where the safer was asked
something else. There was a
where they had a possible safer Torah in
the Aron Kodesh. They had eight sifrei
Torah in the Aron Kodesh. One of the
sifrei Torah was possible and they can't
remember which safer Torah was possible.
And they mission backwards and forwards
and they can't find it. They can't find
the guys. They don't know what to do. So
here ready the show wanted to know. He
said can I rely on
can I say you're right eight seven of
them are kosher one is possible. Let's
say bitel barov. I'll pull one out
called the parsha maybe. You know, okay
that's you may have the eight Aron
Kodesh is I'm not sure how you're going
to work this out. But but the point is
that was the shaila. The shaila was is
could you say bitel barov. So the safer
said that this is already something that
actually rather be already discussed. He
brings that there's a true from the Adam
Leo where the Adam Leo was asked the
same shaila and the Adam Leo
wanted to be make all. Listen to what he
said. Listen to what he said. The Adam
Leo said because even though at first
glance what are you going to tell me?
Safer Torah is there a more double
kosher than the world that is safer
Torah? So maybe that the safer Torah is
a double kosher. K'ticha l's'chabed.
Eggs. K'ticha l's'chabed. Asher niska. A
safer Torah? What's the shaila? So of
course the safer Torah is not bottled.
It's a double minyan. It's a double
minyan. Yeah. A Torah minyan. So what's
the question? Of course of course the
safer Torah is not going to go. What's
the meter that a safer Torah should be
bottled? But the Adam Leo said a a
k'ticha. He wanted to tell to that
halacha is that if you have a k'ticha
basar a k'ticha l's'chabed literally.
Right? Chaticha piece of meat. And this
piece of meat is nisa b'nisa, so it's a
davar chashuv, it's not batel. Stating
that there's a halacha, let's say the
chaticha re'uya l'shabbos, what is this?
It's a kosher piece of meat, and inside
of it is a bli'a of non-kosher
food. Then the halacha is you don't have
the din of chaticha re'uya l'shabbos.
The only time you have the din of
chaticha re'uya l'shabbos is if the
davar ha'asur is chaticha re'uya
l'shabbos. But if the davar ha'asur is a
bli'a that's inside a chaticha re'uya
l'shabbos, we don't look at the davar
ha'asur as being the chaticha, we look
at the davar ha'asur as being a bli'a,
and a bli'a is not a chaticha re'uya
l'shabbos. The bli'a itself is not a
davar chashuv, so you don't have the
halacha of chaticha re'uya l'shabbos. So
in the Sefer Yad Eliyahu, the Pischei
T'shuva brings this by the way in
Resha'im Tes and Luchos Zeves Tzedek,
and this t'shuva is Yad Eliyahu. So he
wanted a taina that a Sefer Torah that
has a to'is could be used the same
thing. Because the Sefer Torah is not
the issue, it's the mistake in the Sefer
Torah that's the issue. The mistake is
not chashuv, to the contrary, it's a
mistake. It just passuls the Sefer
Torah. So he said that the to'is in the
Sefer Torah is like the bli'a in the
chaticha re'uya l'shabbos. And just like
in the Sugya chaticha re'uya l'shabbos,
if the chaseron is the bli'a in the
chaticha re'uya l'shabbos, you don't
have the din that it's not batel,
because the chaseron is not in the
chaticha, the chaseron is in the in the
a bli'a. Here too, the chaseron is not
in the Sefer Torah, this this chaseron
is is in the to'is. Either way, the
Chasam Sofer brings this t'shuva, and he
says like this, "B'lav hachi, divrei Yad
Eliyahu t'muhin d'einam l'fi fi hada."
He thinks that this taina was einam l'fi
hada of the Yad Eliyahu. He says, "What
He says that the to'is God is the reason
why chaticha re'uya l'shabbos, if
there's a bli'a there's no problem, is
because in that case we're obviously
discussing with a bli'a didn't make the
whole chaticha passul. If the whole
chaticha became passul, then the whole
chaticha is va'ideh assur. Ela mai, you
have a bli'a of issur that's living
inside a chaticha re'uya l'shabbos. In
that case we say that even though it's
in the chaticha re'uya l'shabbos, but
being that the psul is only the bli'a,
the psul is not the heter itself.
There's no problem. But over here, once
there's a mistake in the safer Torah,
it's the same safer that it's
the whole safer Torah is ossur. And
being that the whole safer Torah is
ossur, what's the difference if the
safer Torah is ossur because the whole
safer Torah is ossur? Or the safer Torah
is ossur because there's one letter, one
ois in the safer Torah that's pusul. At
the end of the day, I don't have a
kosher safer Torah. So the the dover
have pusul is the safer Torah. And the
safer Torah, of course, is a dover
chashuv, it's a chiddush of the shabbos.
Based on that, the Chasam Sofer said
it'd be a big problem. Mamash, he ended
up coming up with a chulah and eitzah
with a sfek sfeikah maybe to be able to
work out besides that fact if you find
yourself in such a situation so you
should be able to learn and increase the
Torah based on a random shittah. That's
already the income of the But the
bottom line is it's coming back to the
kasha. Started off with a what seemed to
be like an eidel kasha. The kasha wasn't
for sure on this kasha that's not
hekdish. Wasn't sure if it was in a
taruvos of zocher. Say bitter of the
rove that the shurah on this kasha be
botel. Is it so possible that it could
be bitter straight from the chaim oizer?
It should be totally in all this rate
because bitter of the rove could only
take away a chaseron. Bitter of the rove
can't stel tzu something. And in order
for a shurah on this kasha to be
hekdish, you'd have to stel tzu hekdish.
We would need it to be chal hekdish.
Just like you can't create lishmah in
tzitzis al yidei bitter, you can't
create lishmah in matzos al yidei
bitter. There's no bitter maybe when it
comes to
safer Torah and askaris of lishmah etc.
etc. Lechurah, based on that, there
should not be a din bitter on the sh- to
give hekdish to the shurah on this
kasha. So lechurah, stellt zich the
shailah. And with this, what's the
haveah minah that should be bitter with
the shurah on this kasha? How in the
world is there going to be bitter to
create a chalos?