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Today's
we are 17 lines from the top of
the two dots.
So we're in the middle of a sug that
began with a Mishna on the bottom of
that discusses
that brought
or
when do we say that the is
and when do we say that it's not
the background to this of course is that
a in wears two hats
is an is also the
is
the of an has a very unique type of
toma. It's
so if somebody puts it in his he would
become we saw that not only would the
person become but any clothing that he's
wearing would also become. So this is a
pares
in the world of
the discussion in the Mishna was what
would be if uh
brought an ancho
but it was done in an improper way.
That's for sure that any that one gets
when he brings the carbon that he's
supposed to bring he would not attain.
The question is as it relates to the
other
as it relates to the laws of do we say
that this right now would be to or would
it not be to and the Mishna said that
really it depends on what is
in the event that apostle did the
we would say that we don't treat it as
an avail with regard ards to the laws of
if the was done by aer but
it was done by
but it was done it was done at night
all these cases
what would be if the malikica was done
but not with the fingernail of the coin
but rather was done with a knife
All those cases
the bottom line is is it?
Well, it depends. What does it depend
on? So the Mishna continues and the
Mishna says here's the rule.
In the event of is what we would deem to
be
and if it was
so then already it would be
what
is that we already discussed. Why is the
din of and whether it's oresh that we
also already discussed but what emerges
from the first daff here in this and
from rashi right away in the is that
really this is totally in another sugi
that we're going to get into in great
depth sugi that's a lot easier by the
way than this and that's
almost everything we're going to learn
after this is easier than this but
there's an idea that sometimes if you
take a ple like a murimul and you put it
on the you have to get it off can't be
there it's possible how could it be on
the but then there's a concept of
what's the
when do we say that if it goes on the
get it down when do we say so
says it's in this if it's
if it's
then it's
speaks out and again it's based on the
gamor that the reason The
of whether it's or not is
not so much because it's but more
because it's
an where is that
can go into so that means you did
something if you did something there's
no way you can view this as an avail is
if it drop dead but to the extent that
the you didn't had for at
least
well then is going to be if however it
would be a so that means you didn't do
anything the malik is not a malik
nothing's a nothing well if you have an
and you didn't do the malik it' be like
if you had a you didn't do a it would be
treated like ana and if that's the case
is it would be either way today's d is
going to pick up on this note and really
it's going to quote a few
which is a source of This as we see is a
term which is another and the source of
that is also a term is technical or
related to these. So again the Mishna
said
we learned
you would think that that's done inside
would be now first glance it doesn't
sound like anything was wrong. You did
the that's amazing. That's exactly what
you're supposed to do. So why would you
think it's
so the mafurish says by the way it's not
rashi here right it's the mafarish so
the mafurish says that what we're
talking about is where the malik was
done by apostle so you would have
thought that if someone that's not let
do the avoid would do the avoid the
apostle would do the malik it would now
be
simply because of the fact that the
malika was malika so if the malikica is
pula so it's not proper malikica You
didn't kill it in the right way. It
should be Tommy the says. So where does
it say? It says
this is a very important P. It's going
to be the topic of most of the D right
now. Short by the way, but it's going to
be the topic of most of the short. The
PK is talking about a person that in a
let's look at more carefully.
So somebody ate a novela and as a result
he became Tommy. So what type of NA are
we talking about? It's easy because
we're talking about that one would only
become if he ate it. Which is one only
Tommy if he eats the of an right. It's
only
another giveaway is the Pik says not
only is the person
his clothing are also going to be which
person who comes in contact with a
that's
his also become it's the of the which is
not only the person but even his
so again
is talking about the of an either way
says the you would have thought that was
done by apostle inside should be
it says the word and being that it says
it's not
why not because this is not an why not
to the extent that the
so it's no different than if you didn't
the animal properly of course it's going
to bear says the duk is not from the
word the d is from the
And really if you think about it, why is
this word mentioned in this? Why are we
talking about a talking about
and by the way this of why does mention
the word is really going to underpin the
next part of the and it's also going to
underpin tomorrow's that word is
throwing us for a loop here and that's
the must have had a when it threw in
that word and this is what it's coming
to teach me it's coming to teach me
eser when an animal becomes a tra is
there any iser that now becomes mut
doesn't make sense can't say where stray
face you have an animal that was now
became a tra oh now it's tra is not
mater
we learn from here that the only time
this is if the way the animal became an
did not trigger any
as opposed to the malikica even of a
puzzle That's in the
being that it's what is
the
you wouldn't be allowed to put it on the
but
that's why it won't be. So you would
have thought that a malik that's done by
apostle should be mama makes a lot of
sense. It's not a malik. So now it's
going to be available.
And we learn from there that the only
time is going to be a is if it's not
being meaning when it became a when it
died there was no that became
being that this was
so it's for that reason
that it won't be
the price continues and says that from
this heckish between and I could be I
could also be
but we could also be
if somebody would do
or if somebody would do
being that in those situations you're
not being right is the wrong type of
is so it doesn't matter if it's
in all of those cases You killed the in
the wrong way. Thus, you could hear why
it would be in a there's no that comes
along with it. To the contrary, in all
of these cases, if you would take that
now, you'd put it on the would be. Well,
if that's the case, then
it would be. So you want to know why the
put the word in this of because really
the word is a very very critical word
of
I don't need it. I could have said
I would know everything I need to know.
But in terms of some of these
I only know that because wrote the word
in fact the is the you want to know when
it's when it's and when it's not the
that's what it boils down to. When
becomes a tra there's no is that's
becoming mut. If when the becomes an
avail that's becoming no even of
well then is that it's going to be if
however there's any even
then the is that it's not going to be
which by the way is a now to the of our
right our Mishna said that
that it's not if it's
why It's Italian that it comes from this
word of another that's going to jump on
this word you would have thought
if somebody
or if somebody
whether it's
the says to tell me that it's not so
again this mirrors the previous you
would have thought a certain situation
where you killed the in the wrong way.
It should be because you didn't kill it
in the proper way
the word to tell me that it's not. Now,
what's this B is specifically talking
about? These cases are so nuance, right?
So, we're talking about where somebody
not supposed to not supposed to bring.
So, you got it wrong.
Or if somebody
knife that's you got it wrong. If you
checked it, it's all wrong. But the
bottom line is all three of these cases,
you did something wrong,
right? But it's can't be
and
so you got the right and the right, but
you supposed to do you weren't supposed
to do. So again, all these things are
you got wrong. So you would have thought
that what
says to tell me
Not
same like we had earlier. Where do you
see in the word that these things are
excluded? Ella says the it says that
word that we mentioned earlier is an
extra word in this price. We're going to
dash them a little bit differently.
Just like a there's no if it's right
animal becomes a traim it's there's no
between when it comes to
so too the only time you're going to
have when an animal is going to be
when it becomes an is if this thing that
happened to it would make it an if it
happened if it happened
as opposed
the three cases of this price
being that the is not the same
for that reason it's not going to be so
the price says
where do you see that because doesn't
discriminate between the only time an of
it becoming available would be is if
it's a situation where it doesn't
discriminate between all three of these
cases there's a between
there's a between
so without even trying to figure out
what this means on our own the is going
to do the work for us says
when it comes to
right there's a between if somebody
would check would it be avail No,
then it also won't become unavail.
So even if it's going to be okay, but as
it relates to
they're actually one and the same
because
are both a problem. Why? If it's well is
no and even when it's a problem because
you're supposed to do malik you're not
supposed to do so I hear how the word
could be from
because
okay so it's but as it relates to it
both cases shouldn't be a
said
in the world of in the world of if
somebody
is it's a problem the person's going to
be so said that's that to the extent
that somebody would
even though the way you're supposed to
do the within is not through it's
through but the par
is that if somebody even
he's
says it's
that the animal's not going to be in a
veil because if the is to be if the
terrorist says I see this as with
regards to there's no way the terror is
not going to see it as regards to the
last thing the would want to see it as
aita for is to to take away
prematurely right So to the extent that
we view this as a regarding then it has
to be it's a with regards to everything
else. So
in as much as you did it the wrong way
and therefore we can clar
it as an reason
for sure is not going to be but they
weren't okay.
So you have a marri
but what about
there there's no you don't find anywhere
from
that it's that we treat it like a so
then it should not be
once I know that
is not
it's also not
in other words the Bryson is saying that
from the fact that the T mentioned the
word we learn that the only time in
is to the extent that it's what does it
mean to me the tra doesn't discriminate
between so to the way this was killed it
have to be there was no if this mice
whatever was
and from there I can exclude
And
that's easy because
would not be because that's the way
you're supposed to make it die. So then
also not because it would be
and even
I know based on for sure it would not be
why not because if it's considered
certainly has to be with regards to this
as well and once I know it's not
considered
if it happens well then so too it
wouldn't be if it happened because of
the fact that it's
says
if somebody was
there
right
what's the why isn't it's
the wrong way to do it but
is the right way to do it so comes out
it's because it would be good would be
good according to is that the lem from
the word is that it has to be it's not
said
you have to say that the only time we
say the
the only time we say the of is to the
extent that what you did was wrong. So
if there's two wrong ways of doing it
and in one case it would be
and the other time it wouldn't be so
then we say
that they have to line up but being that
Malikica's
is not a situation where you even did
anything wrong that's the way that
you're supposed to do it. If it's that
you're supposed to do it, even if you
would do it now in another way, you
wouldn't say that there's a problem by
virtue of the fact that it's
a that if there's two ways of doing it
that are both wrong and one of them I
know for a fact is not mama, then the
other way also is not going to be the
but to the extent that the one that's
not mama is not mama because I did it in
the right way. So in that case going to
be different. I don't know what's
bothering yo, right? But I'm guessing
what's bothering you is what do you mean
is also and we just said that as it
relates to
the reason it's not is because it's not
am I right which is always a coveret for
me but from the fact that
the you're telling me is not the trade
says already asks this
says the but one last horror and that is
are you going to tell me that
but what about the following tomorrow
writing yesterday
how do you know that when it comes to
that it's considered something that's so
if you have that if you put on the
reason is because being that there's no
Obama.
So therefore is it's going to be in
what's the
is that if you're telling me there's a
how could there be a cool how could
there be a
because of the fact that you find
there's no
it's not there's no by
there no byama mean that there by Obama
there's no
what do you I don't care.
At the end of the day, there's a in the
world called
So
that it's not and the reason is because
what are you going to tell me? can't
learn from because it's there's a
precedent in the of we don't seem to
care about
but says it's not true
that says the reason
by meaning is
it's not really based on we saw this in
yesterday it's based on the
bottom line is it's based on
that's based on a
is like an it's just a it's a
but really it's rooted in a if all I had
was this
I would say
either way we just concluded the
majority of what we're going to learn
right now and that is really it's two
braces very straightforward two
terrorist kayanms both terrorist kayanms
are coming from the same place right
sometimes the weeds of a gammorra hard
but at least high level watch just
happened right it says with regards to
the
which we know is not only the person but
it says
the word is extra we're not talking
about we're talking about everything we
needed regarding
we know it's anar how do we know that
because it's
And it says not only is the person
say but why did Terry write the word? We
have two braces that said two different
between the two bices is that the word
is being a situation where the or the
malik was done and sometimes is it will
be to sometimes is that it won't be to
what does it depend on well it's it's
if it's similar to yeah if it's not
similar to not what does it mean that's
where the two veered off the first
The second Ber said that
another
says
what would it be if the went ahead and
he found out that this was a tra that's
a little bit of a different case here
we're talking about a trafa because
we're talking about a tra we're not
using the word to be hila We're talking
about a trafa because kava. So k went
ahead. He did a malik and all of a
sudden the animal turns out is a traa.
Now what's the shila? What's the shila?
That's pit. That's posh that you can't
eat the animal. It's tra, right? So
forget about malika. Not malik. It's a
trafa. So it's dead on arrival. Pun
intended. There's no way in the world
you'd be able to eat it. You want the
avoid to be a kasher avoid on an animal
that's a trafa. can't use a tra as a a
carbon. So what's the shil the shil is
is it going to be or is it not going to
be that's the the over here says
it's not
says no it is going to be
explain who says
he said I know from
which is
in the event that Somebody would an
animal and the animal would be found to
be a
is that although you wouldn't be able to
eat the animal but at the same time it
wouldn't be
because the is
so what just means you can't eat it but
at the same time the is going to be a as
it relates to it not being and that's
true by which is
which is not
only
so certainly the of this should be now
just proved that the of an
if it's
should not be
done right what did begin
that's why Rome needs another step this
is not a direct flight. This has a
stopover. Here's the next stop.
And when it comes to the
is that if you say what's not going to
be
meaning if
should be the same thing. So our mayor
says
How do I know that? I know it from a
double.
It's a
right. I think that's uh the category
that it falls into
is that
of a that's where it was
even though you wouldn't be allowed to
eat it but the fact that it's a tra
would not get in the way of the being
the from well then it's going to be true
when it comes to the of an what's the
because it's as opposed to
it's only
And if I know that the of where it
senses is not going to be well it makes
perfect sense that the malik should be
the same way
said
I disagree. I don't think that you can
learn Malikas
from
even though I technically have the
mechanism to do it because I'm learning
from and then Malikas from but at the
end of the day what's emerging if you
look at this high level from a 20,000
foot view. So what's happening is is
that being and it can't do that because
at the end of the day by there's no so
as much as by you find this idea that
the is even when it's a tra from you
don't find it by malik why not because
malik's bea and being that you don't
find it by there's no way that on the
receiving end of a even if it jumps
through the hoop at a minion
you're going to have it by malik
according to who sounds a little bit
like he's a third cheetah in the Mishna
that now will all play itself out in the
is that this is not going to be okay
either way the first of the is
said
what's his he learns it from
if
well then which is for sure for sure
would be and if so if is then so too
malik what was
the end of the right said what do you
mean at the end of the day there's no
malik
there's no
through can result in it being true even
by malik says
I mean should we walk away from this
missionary mayor doesn't hold of and by
the way you find this lush in a
different place in right
so does not hold of
how do I know that
so one of the important is learned from
that
and
What does this mean? What this means is
that when Miriam spoke
and she became
said that Miriam right now is going to
have to be quarantined for a 7-day
period. Why? He says
because if Miriam's father, her
biological father would be angry at her.
So what would happen?
call him. So now that it's it has to be
the same way. If for her biological
father it would be seven days. Then if
it comes to it should be more than seven
days. How many days? It should be 14
days. Now 14 days. Oh good gosh. I'm
asking Muhammad speaking now also. But
why 14 days? So I bid to we spoke about
this once. But the bottom line is so you
would think it's uh really having a good
day. You think it's
so you would think that it should be 14
days. The ter is
so if for her father it would have been
seven days that it can't be for the more
than seven days either because of this
of but the bottom line is we learn from
this.
So he says what does hold doesn't hold
of
there's no way you can hold say
had a this whole is really based on a it
says
this is in the parish of and the says
this is the of regarding of and says the
price of
shuff
sounds like one and the same. Really? In
what ways similar as it relates to says
the like this?
That's not something
doesn't have that. I have to say that
the is coming to teach me
just like
the
meaning is even
the thing that's
what does that mean that if it's going
to be as well now we need a little bit
of help here theor is saying that
there's
that teaches me the
that just like a
so to a by an we going to see it's going
to be okay. So how does this help us?
The reason this helps us is is because
this is with regards to and with regards
to and over here the is not but rather
the lim is hish. So if the limit is
not going to have a problem
another and this is brought here on the
side of the is that it could be the
said in the he's still standing by
because really it sounds like from the
is coming from a right so really is
coming from a and he's using the to me
he's using to teach me because for that
there's no dialog if
then is also going to bear. What was the
issue? The issue was I don't have an
ability to jump from because
for that I'm going to use. So at the end
of the day the is going to be used for
the he is going to be used for once I
have the heckish. What do I need the
good this is going to walk into
tomorrow's d which will see tomorrow.
But the bottom line is is that for now
the first in the holds that just like if
somebody would say
so too if somebody shacks an and so to
if somebody does malik on an even though
it's na and being that it's at the end
of the day it's not going to be kosher
can eat it is not a kasher but at the
same time as it relates to tuma the traa
in it of itself is not going to get in
the way. So just to end
this epic week with one final raid bite
and that is not even a raid bite just a
few heration very very short this week's
parish is parish
begins
what an appropriate way to start the
week
left he left there
he's heading to ancient Turkey
But uh the point is he's going to
and he came to a certain place
and he fell asleep there
because the sun had set
and he took from the stones in that
area.
He put them around his head
and he went to sleep over there. He had
a dream.
in his
he brings up ashhat in this
shame his famous grandfather Rabbul
the great great
who said
the derek of people that like each other
be pardam Ishmiro When they part ways,
they begin to cry
and they start saying, "I'm going to
miss you." So, we had such a good time.
When are we doing this again? And we
have to put something on our calendar
like you find
loved so much
when he came to the and he was about to
leave the of the land
his nephesh started leaving him. He was
going mish because he's he's leaving the
land right now
and he started giving different peers to
the land. I'm going to miss you. I can't
go. It's going to be so hard. And and he
started crying
and he was mish talking to the land. He
says, "You don't know how much pain I'm
in. I have to run away.
I'm telling you now. I'm going to come
back one day."
As this was happening,
as he was he was crying,
it got laid early and all of a sudden
the sun set
and he had a lie there. This is what the
P means
is a lotion of you find this lotion in
different places in Tanak and it was in
that place and it was because of that
place.
But this was the reason
he had no idea.
He says this is an Indian that you find
by the says that
when they would come to they would kiss
the floor because they had such a and
they wanted it so much.
When saw how much loved he wanted so
badly not to leave because he understood
this is home and this is really where he
belongs but sometimes a person has to do
what a person has to do. So turned to
Yakov and told him you have nothing to
worry about. He said, "I promise you. I
promise you,
I'm going to make sure you come back one
day. You so badly don't want to leave.
The day is going to come. The day is
going to come when you're going to come
back." I don't think there's a more
appropriate way to end such a week than
with these heres with these of
we all know that this is where we
belong. But we got to do what we got to
do. But when a person feels that way and
a person leaves with those types of
tells
that was
and this is the reason he got this I
think before Friday night I would have
looked at this okay it's a nice when you
appreciate the fact that the was born
and the was from and the was a and he
had to
He ended up spending decades of his life
in Italy. Not a place that he wanted to
be. These heres and was our first stop
on this trip was to harmon. And we saw
that this was to 200 years after he
passed away.
He was to be returned.
But this is when leaves the way you're
supposed to leave. There's a and not
just that
just to end I heard from you did
he told me he was a a ber he was in camp
yeshiva that was
summer camp so I went to but I went to
campa I didn't go to campa but he said
he remembers they were in camp yeshiva
and it was the end of a a very very fun
gishmaka summer and the matu
He got up and he wanted to say he wanted
to
so he gets up and he says
if somebody says goodbye to his friend
so he said
this is the world that
said that what does it mean
he said that when a person says goodbye
to his friend he should say goodbye with
a kasha. Why would a kasha? Because if
you say goodbye with a kasha, the person
that you're saying goodbye to is going
to always think of a kasha. And
like this, he's going to remember you.
And then in a year from now, he's going
to think of a terrorist and he's going
to remember you. You're the one that
answering this. That's this very
well-known kazal that when a person says
goodbye
as an accasha because you leave somebody
with
that person that is going to be on his
mind
turned to the and he said
and I'm going to leave you boys with
aasha. He said, "But this I'm going to
leave you with right now."
He said, "This
I'm telling you right now, nobody in the
world knows the answer to." And he said,
"Everybody's sitting there with baited
breath and everyone's heart is pumping.
What's this kasha that no one in the
world knows an answer to that the matu
is leaving the book? And he turned to
the bookroom. He said
just want to end with a we say on
we ask
I mean this is the most beautiful bra in
the world. Everything there's nothing
that's not in this. Who we ving on to
get this it's
I want to bench on all the that made
this happen
that are all in this room right now. But
really all the
bench and
we should be leaving with
the
and of we should be zash