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Today's
and we are two lines from the top of
the
said
that the only time somebody's if he eats
of an
where a carbon had piggle is if the bos
or whatever it was the person ate was a
it's learned that from the fact that the
revealed the of twice and both times by
the carbon the
is
some of it was
but it required to be some of it was but
it required to be so too any of that has
you can have that stating that The
Mishna said that's only true for big.
It's not true for noiser and it's not
true for the gar brought m for it. And
then the Mishna says meaning dam is a
and as a result there's no piggle if
somebody would eat or drink dam. What
about Noiser and Tom? says Mishna Noiser
and Tom are like piggle in that just
like there's no piggle on dam there's
noer and regarding dam says how do I
know that so said
the says and rashi says that is really
not directly addressing our mishna but
was direct was addressing a
over there discussed the laws of and
said that if somebody has from dam
someone's
There's no and said what's the meaning
that there's no
there's no when it comes to the says
referring to the purpose of the dam is
but we learn that it's yours meaning
it's treated like in the sense that you
can have enough from it it's not of
course not but at the same time it's
like it's yours that there's no
micropics says
was given it wasn't given from
the says who it says
and who is
that the status of the dam is going to
be consistent
just like after you do this reco if
somebody would take the dam scrape the
dam off it's
so If somebody would be from the D
before he did this be noap
regarding this third it says who so we
say
there's no there isn't going to be says
maybe
just likeap there is because with Adam
you would think there should be byap
there should be as well says no That's
not possible. It's an impossibility
because
because it's not possible. You don't
find anywhere in where you did the
mitzvah that you were supposed to do
with the and there still going to be an
is the sight of is that you're supposed
to be m this thing. This is for a
mitzvah. And if you go now and you have
from it in a sense you but once it's
there's no concept of anymore. So it's
there's no and it says who that's the
case.
So to lift but the gum says is that true
is it true that you don't find anywhere
in the an idea that it was
so spans the entire and the comes up
with a few examples. Number one by
you have the true. So the first that was
done every morning at the base was a
would go up or run up do a
and a would go was his mitzvah to take a
ma shovel full of
he would walk down the ramp
says and he would put it on the side of
the and we there's a p in the par of
that teaches me that that apher was it
would remain there until it got absorbed
into the ground. So you see that the is
the coin already did the mitzvah with
the still has to stay there and the is
you're not let him move it. So how could
you tell me
I just found an example. So the says
it's true it's an example but there
happens to be another example and when
it comes to the
more is less.
So it's true if the Torah says something
there is a it's one of them it's called
if this is true if I could find
something similar to it that can be true
as well but if the tells me something
twice that is the ability to and it's
because if it's true that you can learn
a from b so why would the have to tell
me a and b so if the tells me something
twice that's a that if it would that you
can't learn from it because if you can
learn from it then I don't need it twice
the second one should be learned from
the first. But the bottom line is is
that this idea of
is actually something you find twice and
as a result what was the second one? So
the first one was the second one is big.
It's referring specifically to the big
day that the used to wear and it says
that he had to leave it in the
it wasn't allowed to be used. Now from
the fact that it couldn't be used, it's
a it's even though it was already it was
used. So you see that it is an idea of
so it's true you find it by but you find
it a second time
but
that's true that whole
means that the big day
after finished with his big day loving
left it
according to that holds that it
So you don't see that it's
to the contrary number one it's not it
can be used and you see the could have
enough from it. So all I have is so why
not learn from saysum
because there happens to be another par
another place where you find this idea
of
and that is the after
we're done with the so the said they
couldn't have enough from it.
So you see another example of
thus
continues
that's all good if you hold
but there is holds
according to that
says
what would be the
truma and in each one of the respective
parishes there's that says you can't
learn from there
in the it says to teach me here you have
this that it's despite the fact that it
was but don't learn from there regarding
the it says
teaches me that only it you have to
leave next to the only by it is there an
idea that despite the fact that it's
still going to be but there too again
don't learn from it so the bottom line
is is the
not regarding our but referring to a
that says there's no when it comes to
and the brought three said it's learned
from the
referring to the
evil
said it says
the end of the says
it's all the same different words in
that whoap
and just like it's being that it's
there's no so to lift
being that it's a is there's not going
to be so we have three that there's no
why do I need three meaning at the end
of the day the gamar is assuming that is
right he has a good limud's
Right is right. They're all three
solides. They're all great, wonderful.
So three now that there's no I don't
need to tell me three times there's no
says
you're right. I don't need three for me.
One for me, one for one form. Thus I
have the
Mishna said
what's the it's this Gar right here one
of the extra
in is referring to the other extra in is
referring to what about says the
because that already is included in the
previous
nothing's matter
needs to be but it doesn't require a
matter in order for it to be able to go
on thus it's excluded from just like
are excluded from the
again we mentioned yesterday that when
the Mishna says
What does Tommy mean? Rashi said it
immediately in the Mishna. We're
referring to a person that's tum and he
eats
me the of as it relates to relate to
both where the is and both to where the
kchum itself is where the person is to
it's referred to when the is referred to
or but either way the was mazer in both
cases our sugu was discussing a where a
person himself is to he goes ahead head
and he now eats from
if you go through the you'll see that
three times the said that if somebody is
and he eats
specifically
he's going to be one time the says
then it says
And then the third time it says
so the person became
so the first is referring to all a
person's tummy eats a person is Tommy
and he eats
specifically
and the third one says again a person is
he became
essentially have three. The first one is
general. It's referring to everything.
And the other two are specifically
referring to
one to teach me that the
applied to all.
The second time the terror said to teach
me that the only time the is true is if
the islat
because you say only when the cl and
prat are next to each other. What do you
do if you have a cl on one side and you
have a somewhere far away. So that's
so we say that it has to be
just like
so too
a person that's and eats is what if
someone's tummy eats what was food as
now that was at so being that it's not
it's not to
So he's not going to be that's the
second why did the terrorist say a third
time
to be that you're going to be even if
you eat a that people usually don't eat.
So let's say the would eatus that's or
he himself was and he ate would he be or
not the third time the is to teach me
he'd be in that case as well who we had
in our
end of the we had
I'm reading from the end of the
who holds.
So what's the third parish of coming to
teach me?
It's coming to teach me that.
in is that there's no pickle by being
that was
by and was brought on. So too the only
time you're ever going to be is if the
carbon is born as opposed to the
so you see there holds that if the
terror is something maybe even if it
doesn't mean only but it means something
that's being that the chorus of is
mentioned by so I would have thought if
someone's tummy and he eats from the
should so that's why you need the third
because according to the third is coming
to teach me
who holds
your potter. So obviously that's not
what the is coming to teach me but does
say something else it's coming to teach
me going what it's coming to teach me is
that even
don't say that just like by means
here too as well says
that the only time is if it's
seem to argue that even
so is a a big makeup he says the only
time you have the of a to that eats is
if
argued and argued. We don't know who
said what but said one thing said the
other thing said one thing said the
other thing one of them said one of the
one of each one of these peers of said
regarding
with the buser became
if the himself is the one that's Tommy
and he's eating buser that's not tom
everybody agrees that if
is you're not going to get and the other
one said
it's not
that they're arguing meaning they're
arguing
which we said means
why would you think that
is the talks about the is the talks
about the two are mentioned together in
the sense that
It's two in succession. One is
test. The other is
the two. If you hold one applies only to
the other one's going to apply to
taught the affion
had a different
they were referring to the once said
not
everybody agrees like it's just the
opposite was
baser Everyone holds like
the same exact comment
mean you can hold whatever you want to
hold with regards to the and eating.
But one thing is clearly
the two are mentioned together and it
makes sense therefore that the two
says how could anybody hold that there's
no
didn't the earlier
say the rabbis isn't there
in the parish of that teaches me that is
referring to but it teaches me even it
sounds like the laws of tum apply even
to specifically the laws of so says
that is not a real it's only that's why
it's possible to hold that
is going to be excluded completely both
from the of and from the of
so before we go v
the first and that is that yesterday we
learned about
we
Whether there's whether there's
whether you have
seem to hold that is very very different
than even though the learns out is that
can be they could be they could bring
carbon but at the same time it's true
that it's and it's true that the you can
bring that carbon into the into the aor
and is but in terms of many the details
that apply to ordinary caution they
would not apply to
says I disagree it says in that
and that teaches me treated literally
like the
for others ask
and that is
as follows.
Aid brings a carbon brings a carb and he
goes to the says
after.
So
the
so the goes he takes the carbon now they
do the with the carbon are they acting
the do the
of the or they acting as we know so a
person can make somebody to do something
for him
so to say in that when a person hands
over the carbon to the is acting as a
carbon
or The way it works is not with the
parish of but rather
the says that if somebody brings a
carbon you listen to me says and you
bring this carbon but it's not working
with the lumbness of they're not acting
as of the carbon says the
what would be if the carbon made a that
he will not have from this could the
claim bring his carbon or could the not
bring his carbon that's why
If the kan is acting as a
of the
so if I can't have enough from you you
can't be my but if you're not working
for me but rather then there won't be a
problem of so the gumar goes back and
forth and forth and back and at the end
the is not push stating that there's
another
discusses the same exact sha and here
the is the sha
It's
going to tell me
that
we all know one of the most basic
principles in is that I can't make a to
do something for me if I can't do it
myself. So something that I could have
done myself, I can make a to do for me.
But if I can't do it myself, I can't
make a if aar brings a carbon. What's
the means of Yeshua that the are acting
as his can't do the can't do the
if that's the case.
So the would never be able to be the of
the carbon. It wouldn't work with the
although the
leaves it open. It's
are very bothered. At first glance it
would seem to be as they was trying to
make it work. The bottom line is the mas
is that
maximum what was the
why do we even need a
why was there even a in the world to
tell me that
it's
you know why not know
it's also right here it's it's
throughout that
means a guy can bring a carbon if a guy
brings a carbon he gives it over to a
kay a can
We know that
it does then that it doesn't work with
because if it worked with how would a
guy ever be able to bring a carbon
so what was the
less and still you see they're able to
bring her side first glance you're going
to tell me I hear it's an but at the end
of the day it's not a cash because the
end of the day theor comes out
So it's more a sh on why the wasn't
pushed it from but
says that's not true that is says I'm
going to tell you that even though the
says
that's true for
it's not true for and he brings a
because the
when the discusses the of the
It's the second paric of
that's what brings the different
so one of the brings is a passing parish
it says
referring to the carbon
is it possible
every single You checked it. The carbon
was brought there was one person that
was appointed. He was the one that was
going to each individual set.
You learn from
where the says that the way works is
what because if you're going to tell me
is true even for then how do you learn
it's called
it's related to a different idea
learned from so it's clear
but that the way
works by is there
And the says, "If you think about it, it
makes perfect sense because what was
that?
It's not possible that can walk into the
BT
and the should bring the carbon as that
can't do the how could the asim of the
do the avoid on their behalf." But
that's all true by
you don't have the
so it's beautiful. It all works out very
nicely. That's why it's true that
ordinarily
but as it relates to
over there that's
and that is why the was able to learn
from
a source
that
if that's the case I understand how
works
but how does work can't do himself so is
going to now walk to the mikd he's going
to deliver uh behavior
Who's going to do the for that already
is not that works.
So
how does the work
anyways came out?
That's not a it's why wasn't the
but
how in the world does work the is going
to go do the how could the do then
there's no way in the world to make the
work that's I was just thinking maybe
one and that is that it's there's a in
Sanhedrin
says that a m a yid that's a m is not
considered a benris so whatever you find
in an idea that you have to be a benis a
m is not considered a benris in from
places
says based on this I want to say it
should come out that a m can't be a
meaning just like we know is less a is
also going to be less why because what's
the go is less of it says
The reason you can't appoint a to be a
for you or the reason can't make you
into is because
so if a m is not a bris it's back of the
envelope of arithmetic says the place
it should come out that a m should be
possible based on that asks on
the maybe
But that's what that's what the
says that a can't be. So if somebody
wants to divorce his wife
that's the first mission is stating that
can't be and the says why can't a be
in order to be you have to be
and being that a guy is less
because he himself can't bearish his
wife in the
sense as a result he can't be
why does the have to say that the Reason
a guy can't be
is because typically a guy is always
we know that a guy can never be
want to answer
the
even though it's true a guy can never be
a that's only if a guy wants to be a for
a year but a guy could be a for a
something a guy wants to do something a
wants to create some sort of if he's
another to do the for him it's going to
be okay why because what's the what's
the reason what's the can't be we learn
there's no said that is from
is that the has to be and just like the
is so the has to be aid as So the reason
that you can't make a guy to do for you
or can't make a to do for him is because
and they have to be on some level. But
if he's a Ben br and he's not a Ben br
they're completely different and you
can't have the
with two people that are so
diametrically opposed. It doesn't work.
BUT IT'S NOT a
not it's just that the has to be so
has to be as well
would be able to make another guy.
If that's the case
who was based on
that a m is also not a bad what would be
if a mmer wants to make a [ __ ] a to do
something for him would be because a [ __ ]
again is not from being a the issue is
that the [ __ ] is not to here he is
because
the [ __ ] is not
the
but the point is in In this case,
they're alike. As a result, a m can make
a go to do.
What if a m wants to divorce his wife?
Could a m make a [ __ ] to divorce his
wife? Ay
could make to do his wife. That's why
the had to give a new reason a reason
why.
You want to know why a guy is from
because he's
then would be that if a guy if a m
wanted to divorce his wife and he's
going to make and who is going to be
it's going to be guy in that case it
would have worked now you have a new
reason that's why it's not going to work
what would be is a mmer able to do or is
a mmer not able to do so the say like
first class she'll tell me a m is always
treated like a guy so if a woman is
treated like a guy He shouldn't be able
to do culture and the truth is even by
itself it's not so that a is allowed to
do a is allowed to do but I just had one
hor and that is the right in the
beginning of the second paric discuss
and the gave a whole list of people that
one of the things mentioned in the was
oral and the said
one of the gumas we did not learn
together so it says over there what does
oral mean so oral
There's an oral bos and there's also an
oral meaning there's a concept of an
oral that he's physically an oral
like says in the and then there's an
idea of an of an oral oral says learned
from a
refers to him as
on this very rash over there says we're
referring to a say but we're referring
specifically speifically to a m that
means one of the of is a now the mission
says at the beginning of the third
paragul
all the people that do
so I thought at first glance it's back
of the envelope arithmetic if one of the
is and all the
in the end of mikt as well all the that
can't do are allowed to do such a come
out that a mashita
Maybe you can answer
that. How could a guy ever bring a
carbon
learned
out from how could a guy have someone do
the he can't do the himself and nobody
could do the for him because that's
going to have to go with a param and a
guy have a m do it for him. A mmer can
be a for a guy because it's true the guy
can't be a man. But why can't he be man?
Because he's not a Ben bris. If that's
the case, he can make a m just like
that a m can make a
it's the same thing. It's the flip side
of the same coin. A guy can make a he
could have the make do on his beak. But
this would only be true if a m to do.
But the truth is it's really in the
beginning whether a can even do I would
think if he can't do he can't do so
again just
but we have to a little bit better
regardless
so we're coming full circle here this is
literally
so the brought this Mishna regarding the
of the Mishna says that the sixon that a
had to have while he doing the number
one.
He has to have a mind right he's
bringing he has to have
he has to have a mind the
he has to have a mind that he's bringing
it
will explain what that means
will explain that that means will
explain what that means he's bringing
that in almost all cases
so he has to have in mind also that this
carbon is being brought
even if somebody didn't have in mind
these it's going to be cautious meaning
these only
meaning it's only
but if you didn't have in mind these
it's okay and like the said
that is saying more than that doesn't
even want you to have these and the
reason he doesn't want you to have the
is because he's afraid you're going to
trip up and This was that when it comes
to stom is because if is not how could
you tell the not to think
it's not going to think the carbon is
not going to be my stomach isma. It's
only when you have a that you mess up
the carbon. So there's an idea of don't
think like this you won't think but it's
all predicated on if you don't think
anything at the end of the day it's
going to be
it says in the
don't have the here on the side but it
says
should have it here
teaches me that it has to
So even though we had if you remember
we had all the different how you know
that a carbon has to be brought here we
have
when it says
what does mean it means
as opposed to what so one of the six
that had to have was
what does
that when the im would put on the misbeh
so the fire of the misbeh had had to
completely consume the baser it couldn't
just roast it right you couldn't like
make it cooked a little bit medium rear
and then take it off it had to be
completely consumed that's what means
what does that mean
the meaning you can't first roast it and
then put it on the you put it on the raw
and does everything.
If someone took the of an animal, he
roasted it the hell and then afterwards
he put on
there's going to be no
what does mean
it means that you're supposed to have in
mind that should have and what does mean
regardless this is the this right here
toe
is lash
and even brought ze the only one that
wasn't mentioned here of the six is but
that already addressed in the first par
but regardless
this is where it's learned from. So we
have a little bit more time to just one
more and that is that one of the that I
mentioned over here in this Mishna is
that a carbon that was brought had to be
brought
and if the it wasn't brought with a of
then the carbon
would be possible. So we mentioned
yesterday we said we'd get back to this
that Kalasher when he was his movement
to build just based on the fact that the
relations between the Jews and the
Muslims at the time were better and he
thought that if the Yidden used that
taxi to get permission to build they'd
be able to bring carbonas. So he started
lobbying the to try to to try to start
his movement. And there were many many
chas that were written to Kasher picking
holes in the idea of why potentially
there would be an issue for him to to go
ahead and and bring the carbon. One of
the chas that were written
was written by the baler
heinger and it's printed in shuv
sim. So the very first chuva in the
classic bing is a chuva kisher and he's
responding to the that he received the
where kisher is innovative this
unbelievable patent this idea that he
has to go build him and that's what he
goes ahead and he addresses so but at
the end the the said that I have one one
major issue what you want to say
incidentally one of the things that
kalisher apparently wrote in his that he
felt was very very persuasive is the
says we all know the
so he said that
what does it say afterwards
so the
first it says
and only afterwards it says based
So it sounds like first we're going to
go all it's going to be is a mountain.
There's going to be a there's going to
be
a
gonna bring it's only afterwards
but but it's going to be
so he said it's just in terms of the
that's the way it's going to be the
told that the
it's it's very nice doesn't because if
you look at the gar the garra says
The over there is going through the
seder of and the was obviously
instituted by
and the sed is it was written in a
certain sed for a reason and just
picking up in the middle of the gor says
we save because we're asking for
after is going to be built is going to
come and that's why after what's the
next the Next
first is going to come and then
afterwards is going to come.
You see that before the is resumed
you're going to have to have so
that you're bringing that you're getting
SO EXCITED WITH THAT it's
just the opposite first we say and then
afterwards say
has to come before the has to come
before the either way it's a beautiful
truth it's
inside. It's the first
but the punchline of the chuva the main
reason that the
ethlinger had a problem where it's
movement was based on a in
a we've quoted before the says in the
says clearly that after the is going to
be if you're going to want to bring a
carb
Hashem says that there's not going to be
any more
and one of them is he says it's true if
a would bring a carbon he wouldn't be
the carbon would be possible it's true
it's not the only two is that
is
but at the same time to go and bring a
carbon when you know there's not going
to
That's that's a very bigish you should
be able to do that and being that the
was made that
even if you can make it work with all
the and all the lumbus and all the but
at the end of the day there's no and you
can't go and bring a carbon when you
know going in that this carbon is not
going to have
so what's in the says
there is such a
said he said number one could be the
negate of because we're spoke yesterday
a lot about the and what's that that
means that when it's that when there's a
mto there's an
outside of the
says is there
let's say someone would be a carbon
today says there's And now he brings the
carbon outside in his backyard.
If you
if not there's no so says the it could
be the whole
is only to get the meaning
in the sense that
it's as if there's technically
so if you bring a carbon but in terms of
bring that it's a little bit
he says something beautiful. He says
that it could be it's true. There is a
concept of
but that's only
meaning comes
so you're going to have the you talk for
this going to be but it's going to take
time till everything is set up till
everything is ready
says in that time where it's already
going to be after this but we're not
going to have a that's where it's going
to be
and he says the em is that what's
So one of the
over there says
they were discussing
that's what they were discussing. They
were discussing after the had already
gone up there. They were working on
building a baseto. So it wasn't anymore.
That's
it wasn't
neither meaning in where you're already
working on rebuilding the mto over there
that's already
over there. It's you don't have
but today when we're living in a golas
there's no way in the world today you'd
be able to bring these. That's what the
clan felt was the checkmate tus. That's
we spoke in the chaser
had a prize main issue besides for all
the obvious issues the main issue had
was where you going to find the brings
and that you don't give
says that there's no maybe
that every
said at the end of the day you can bring
a you can have and you can have
everything all set up but who who's the
kayen you need a
who's going to do
that we just learned right now. It says
you can't bring a carbon if you know
that there's not going to be a now that
this
is in the says it in a few places. We've
spoken out a few times. I personally had
never seen the inside. The is in paris.
That's the primary source and it's on
this right here in his I'll read it to
you inside
says
interesting the way he says it g says
it' be hard maybe to build a
said
but
says
a little bit of history says that when
the Romans destroyed the second Biktod
they didn't destroy the they didn't
destroy the misbeh
and it remained intact until which was
like 50 or 60 or so years later that was
post the revolution so that many many
years later already writing in the
second century. So years later after
that's when the was that's when it was
and during that interim period
AND THEY BROUGHT
THEY BROUGHT IT says and he says
over there they discuss is got together
and they were being they got together
the reason they were doing it it was
related to the it was related to it was
related to The carbon says those lived
after the so why the carbon they lived
after the says you know why because
you don't need the you don't need the
you need the and there was still during
that interim period until the was still
here it says and this is the punch line
is a punch line but this is also
but the says that even during those 50
years
That's why the only carbon they brought
was the carbon
because it doesn't say anywhere in the
word regarding the carbon
as opposed to all the other
and he goes through
etc etc. Bottom line is that's so the
was to the but the baler felt it was
true for all carbon and that's why it
was checkmate on the didn't feel that
way felt it's only true for the carbon
where you tackle find in the that says
but there's one carbon where it doesn't
say and that's the carbon if it doesn't
say
shouldn't be there if shouldn't be over
there so the carbon you would be able to
bring as it relates to other
so
were to the same
based on this
felt that this was checkmate this was a
t on the entire movement then felt it
precluded all carbon other than the
carbon and that's why historically it
was always the carbon that people were
trying to bring because they were
masculine they understood that there's
an idea of but it wouldn't address the
carbon the sh is we have a few more
MINUTES WHY WHY IS the carbon different
if every carbon is of why by the carbon
would there not be of so years ago many
many years ago I heard from and recently
the set over the same mahal
that is that we know that this is ra and
raan what the kamha carbonus is the says
that the reason gave the yen of the
mitzvah of carbonus is because the yan
was steeped in and the whole idea of
bringing carbon is to try to be the from
their so the
and the
when they were they used to worship
goats and they would worship sheep now
we take the goats and now we take the
sheep and we serve it up to it's all to
be
from the raan was very not happy with
that says
raan is right in the beginning
It's
what the Ram is saying. It's
the Rambam is taking the and he's
turning it into something literally
disgusting
from the
says. How could it be? The says
the purpose is it's
that the idea is then goes and he asks a
whole bunch of cashes that we'll get to
one day. But the bottom line is
what do you say was all to be
from
said it can't be. You know how I know it
can't be because it says and if it says
it's that Hashem has something from it.
What does Hashem have from it? Then the
Rabban goes on to explain exactly what
it is in a classic in his introduction
to says I want to be I'm going to be the
between the Ram and the Ram. So the Ram
held was all to be people from the Raan
held that there's of course there's and
there's a lot to it says
between carbon that were brought in and
carbon that were brought on a bomb the
carbon that were brought on that's
the real deal as it relates to the
carbonos that were brought on the bomber
doesn't have a there's no real that
Hashem has from the carbonos that are
brought on the bama nor that's already
minion to
that's needed to be the lios of the tip.
So that the carbonus that were brought
in that's like the br that's going to be
like that's going to be like the it's so
because the
very end
and there's different from it. There's
no
because checkmate argument was what's
the going to do with the words you see
clearly has from it. It's very it's true
on
but when it comes to
over there there's not going to be over
there there's not going to be
says I will say that for another day but
I'll said they both said the same thing
you can say very why the doesn't say
because we know brings
the mit used to worship the sheep so the
whole idea of of carbon was to be from
the of the it was
here the was made what the reason for
the carbon is it's all to be from like
said that were done on the bum which was
all to be
from there's no
why by the carbon you wouldn't have
we'll speak out part two maybe on the
stuff.