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Today's d is
and we are about 15 lines from the
bottom of
the two dots.
Today's stops being learned as
foru
Ben.
So yesterday we began the fourth peri
in
and it begins with B and B regarding the
minimum amount of
that were
with regards to the carbonas that was
brought on the me everybody agrees that
as it relates to all other carbon
that were brought on the only one was
everybody agrees that as it relates to
the
carbon whose dam was brought under
that two were the between and in the
Mishna was what about a carbon whose dam
was brought
says that although all carbonas that
When it comes to the
argues says
even the if you did only one keeper is
the person is going to get the avoid of
yesterday's d the first of the per was
figuring out what the source is to this
idea that when it comes to allas that
were brought in the even if you only did
It's going to be enough and the's
primary source in the daf was a tucked
away in it's invar
that says
it's evident from many braces that kazal
felt that those words in the seem to be
superflous obviously there can't be
anything extra in the must be it's
coming to teach me something that I
wouldn't have known from kayim I
wouldn't have otherwise known from All
the paras and all the sugis that we know
related to kachim and according to the t
of yesterday's this is coming to teach
me
says that regarding all the carbon if
you do even one
despite the fact you're supposed to do
more
that one is going to be enough for the
balac to attain his kap what we saw at
the very very end of Yesterday's D was
that there's another der amongst the in
terms of understanding what the source
is that for all carbon whose d was
brought in the if you do one that's
enough and that is those tan held like
that when it comes to the carbonas that
was brought
only one z was enough and they learned
sh carbon from the carbon kas but as we
saw at the end of the daft the gar
didn't even tell us what bass hills cars
and that really segus us right into
today's daf. In fact, the mission
statement of today's dath well or at
least the majority of it is going to be
what is the source to the two opinions
in our Mishno Bish and regarding the was
born where Bi says that despite the fact
that when it comes to carbon
if you did one mat keeper but when it
comes to the carbas you need two B says
no just like sh carbon is one when it
comes to the carbonas one is enough as
Well, it would seem to be a in the of in
the that talk about the garb is it that
one is enough is a mashma that you would
need to do two that is going to be the
topic of the majority of today's and on
that note
what is the bi Bi who said in the Mishno
that although when it comes to carbonos
if you did one mat keeper but when it
comes to the carbon that you have to
have two says Rafo that
it says in the Torah regarding the par
of the word caroise three times. It says
carois. It says carois again. And it
says carois a third time. And from the
fact that the terra mentions the word
caro three times. What we learn is that
the dam had to be put on six corners of
the misbeh. How so? Kus is a lion. Two
car again is a lush. Another two. Caris
again is a lash and rab. That's another
two. If you do the math,
what you left is that the is telling you
that you have to take the D of the and
put it on the six corners of the misb.
Right? Can't even say that with a
straight face. There weren't six corners
on the muzz. There were only four
corners on the muzz. Now, to be clear,
the Torah is saying that the datas had
to go on the corners of the misb. It's
one of the uniquenesses of the carbon
kas. But the seems to be saying put it
on the six corners. You don't have six
corners. Says sh I'll tell you how you
have to dash in this. all the mitzvah
that the Torah is telling you that put
it on the four that are there and the
extra two mentions of the word is the
extra two corners that I mentioned are
not the two additional corners that
don't exist but rather the is telling
you a second time put it on one of the
corners and then a second time put it on
another one of the corners in other
words the is telling you do on the four
corners the is also saying
you better make sure that you do it at
least on to now we know the rule in is
so whatever the mentions once is
whatever the mentions twice is the
essentially told me twice with regards
to two of the corners and that's how I
formulated their position that when it
comes to the caratas it' be that you do
two matas what does basil hold caro caro
carois it's true it says the word
caroise three times but the way basil
did the math was not carnis carnis
carnis six corners but rather
What you're left with is four corners.
Now, how does carois which is a lush and
rabin which means at the very least two
plus carois which is at the very least
two plus car which is very least two
yield four. Right? That's lousy math.
How's 2 + 2 + 2 four? Right? 2 plus 2
plus 2 is six. The answer is that if you
look carefully at the words that are
mentioned in the tra only one time does
the tyra write the word car mle. Two of
the times the Tyra writes the word
and being that the Tyra writes the word
basil holds the way you're supposed to
dion the word when it comes to the math
is not as if the is telling you unto but
being that it's written it's as if the
is telling you one and then the other
car which is another one and then the
car that's malle is two but the point is
it's not 2 plus 2 plus two it's 1 plus 1
plus 2 1 plus 1 plus two That's good
math. Then the number that you're going
to end up with is four. So according to
Biso,
what you're left with is six. According
to Bis,
what you're left with is four. Okay. So
what's the according to B? The T is
telling you put it on the four corners.
This is the way you dash it.
Three of the four that the mentions are
and the fourth one the telling you is
supposed to be but the says how do you
come up with that? Like what is even the
methodology for that?
If the terror says four corners and
there are four corners on the so it
sounds to me like the terror is telling
you put one on each corner there's no at
all because the terror didn't mention
anything a second time and if that's the
case maybe what the terror is saying is
do the
on each one of the corners I don't know
maybe you don't even have to do anything
and bas know that you have to do at
least one right if the methodology again
is
so yeah in B's world it's there's six
four mitzvah two are mentioned that's
the end of but according to maybe you
shouldn't have to do anything twice but
the says that's not an option because
there's no such thing as getting for
nothing so for sure you're going to have
to do at least one now if there was a
reason to think you have to do more than
one then but according to there is no
reason to think that you have to do more
than one and it's for that reason the
Tyra says is for all the mitzvah. You
want to know how I know that at least
one is because
and the is what is there's no way in the
world you're getting without doing at
least one. That's how I know according
to Bul one is going to be. So according
to B sh the you have to do at least two
when it comes to is the fact that it
says caro
four mitzvah
according to it's the fact that it says
all four but I know for sure you have to
do at least one because
now before we go what's in the between
whether you count six or you counters
kindness kindness for I mean which one
is it? Is it six or is it four says you
read it it's
kind of
basil says I hear but look at the way
it's written twice it's written so it's
kind of
and only one of the
so of course this is
part and parcel of a very global one of
the in the
which we know from learning comes up in
many different places and really
permeates
the short is when you have a word based
on the way it's written you would think
that the word is suggesting one thing
but based on the way it's pronounced you
would think it's suggesting something
else. The dash in the word based on the
way it's written with the word based on
the way it's pronounced.
It would seem that the is between is
says car is each one of the decrees of
the of the word says as the result
2 plus 2 plus 2 equals six. That's how
he comes up with his when it comes to
two is going to be mak whereas bas says
look at the way it's written
that two of them are written that's why
it's 1 plus 1 equals two that's comes to
his that only one is going to be but at
first glance it would seem that the
between it's not just a
regarding how many you have to do with
the was born but it's actually a
derivative of a very very gold which
when you go through the messiah is by
the way we're going to get a smattering
of it in today's DA. But when you go
through it more thoroughly, it's
something that ties into literally each
one of the shisha, right? It it covers
uh an incredible amount of ground. This
is here would seem to be a sif in that
general. But the way that's the first in
the between says alternatively you can
say one is that when it comes to only
one is because holds
meaning in the first in the bil what
does shame what does hold shameus the
is being a new way to look at it it
could be that b holds that whenever
there's a tension between the mikra and
what you do is you negotiate.
You cut the baby in half. That's what
you do in a situation. And Bul holds
that mikra that being that the mikra is
suggesting one thing you have to give it
some uh
ways.
But then again, being that the Msus is
suggesting something, you have to veer
to it as well. Honey, we go bust a
to say at least one more. Msus and the
Msus is going to have to be being that
the Mikra is suggesting six and the
Msirus is suggesting four. So this is
just the Gmorra's way of saying that we
compromise and we say it's going to end
up being five. So yeah, if all you had
was the Msirus, it would be four mikra
that it's going to be one more. It's
going to end up being five. And if all
you had was the micro beanus
to make it one less to end up making it
five. But the bottom line is there's
this tension. We have to make a
negotiation. We have to make between the
mik and the and the way you do it is you
cut it and therefore we end up with the
five. Oh, you end up with five. That's
what is four and meaning the first of
the all we had was four. How do you know
that one is it was based on
you actually have
regarding that one? Where do you have
it? It's the negotiation. It's this.
It's this compromise between the and the
but says that this
has to be fact checked a little bit
because you're basically telling me
there's a new and it's no less that
every time you have a struggle between
the
what you do is you're making says the
let's try to visit some of the famous
and let's see if this holds true.
So where does it say in the para of
right now we know that there are four or
four par in the how do we know that so
according to one mand it's learned out
from the fact that it says
tough it says it three times two times
it's mentioned one times it's mentioned
malle 1 plus 1 plus two that's how you
end up with four now that's only true
really if you hold the limitus if you
hold the limit
that even though two of the latences are
written but all of them all three of
them are pronounced Molly and that would
suggest that there should be six but the
assumption for the minute is that the
reason there's four parish in the is
probably because
what's the catch let's speak it out
outside but if you're going to tell me
that you dispire
is that you negotiate and you compromise
and
Well, if that's the case, then how many
P should be in the T? There should be
five because he should you should say
four says six. You should end up with
five, right? No one ever heard of that
says the
you should end up with five. So the gar
says it's true if the
that this four paraches in the would be
based on the fact that
it would be because of counting thees
in the word you would end up with five
but has no
rather the reason holds that there's
four parishes in the filling is for a
whole completely different reason it's
based on something famously said very
famous to Omar who said
we once thought that could be this is
related to the fact was always
traveling. So the traveler was familiar
with languages. So he was in heard the
word and it means to and then he was in
Afr and he heard the word which usually
means bread but he heard that it means
two. So maybe that's the
way we need five par
that is not the
issue
you have the same anomaly that two times
the Tyra mentions the word basukasser
and one time it mentions it molly. Now
the Mar is suggesting now that the
amount of walls that a suka has to have
is probably learned out from the amount
of basukoes that those three words
yield. Now
how many wolves do they yield? Well, it
depends if you go based on the mess. So
two of them are mentioned and one's
mentioned mole. 1 plus 1 plus 2 equals
four. If you go based on the mikra, then
it's all mole. then you would end up
with six which is a little bit of a
problem but the bottom line is that the
holds that based on the same
understanding is that every time you
have again this tension between but you
end up with this five so why don't we
say
every should have to be made up of
five
walls it should be a pentagon right
that's what it should look like it
should have to have five walls so the
says it's true and The Gomorra is
accepting that that really bas means
five walls stating that not all the
mentions of the basukas meaning not all
the numbers that come out of basukas can
be used to tell me the amount of walls
over there
one of the things that come from I need
to teach me the
another one is coming to teach me this
well if that's the case how many do I
started with five and five because of
this I started with five but I minus two
immediately
So I'm left with how many? I'm left with
three. And even within the three, this
is already a
we know there's that says that the last
wall, whatever number that is, that last
wall could be even aesthetized
wall and all you need it to be is a but
says the fact that a suka has to be made
up according to basil anyways of three
walls, two proper walls and one even not
a proper wall could be is learned out
from the minion how walls that come out
from bases
two of them were not can't be used what
you're left with is only three and
that's how you end up with three but
it's true it actually is consistent
with this idea that holds that every
time
what we do is we do some asks one last
it says in the
now where does it say this this is
talking about this who gives birth to
ana. So we know that uh yus that gives
birth to a zak was to for seven days.
What about ana? So the Tyra says, the
Tyra says that she should be T for two
weeks stating that if you look at the
way the word is written, it's written
and based on that you would think if you
didn't have that you're supposed to read
it.
The reason we say is because
is that you take the difference between
the and the cut it in half. Well, over
here the math, this is a drop trickier,
but the way the math would play itself
out is that based on the luma, it would
be 14. Based on the it would be 70. So
you have to take now the difference
between 70 and 14. The does the math so
it's fine. Says the we should say
so
should be for 42 days. That's what
should come out. But the Gmorrah says
true based on the simple lumbness of
that is what would come out but over
there
the next word in the is
anda teaches me that it's two weeks and
it's not 42 days which is back of the
envelope arithmetic that's six weeks
right and rashi says that the isid is
tummy seven days right that's
she's tummy for seven days kin sounds
like it's an amount of time that's
similar to rash says two things number
what he does one week and he does it
this would be two weeks but also just
even the amount of days is 14 is similar
to seven as opposed to 42 that's a whole
another number from the fact that the
terrorist has kin dosa that's why knew
that over here you have to dash in only
the here you don't dash in at all but if
you didn't have aurish that this is the
way you're supposed to dash in it the
way you would is you would make a
compromise the bottom line is let's come
off a breath for one second
holds cares
also holds
that's why
four of the arevah two of them are
mentioned
that's how you know two are going to be
what is bas hold either b holds
if that's the case being that two of
them are written
all four are being mentioned
didn't even mention one but
That's why I know at the bare minimum
one would be which is
doesn't hold
it he doesn't hold the but rather he
holds you compromise between the
so the way you treat
one as if the terror said five the
terror said five there's only four ko so
what the terra is telling you is four
mitzvah and one
of one that's how you're going to end up
with that one being the critical one
says the gar. So we have two so far to
understand says there's a third
the following the tana that we're going
to present he learned it from this it
says
it says in the word three times now
these three mentions of the word are
mentioned regarding the
now we don't need to really go into this
now but we know from learning
Not so long ago that the parish in the
is very unique talks about the
the
even within the the could bring either a
kispa or each one is delineated
individually in the if you look inside
these three one is mentioned by the
katas of the other two are mentioned by
the regular good old fashioned albeit
one by the kispa the other one by the
either way Three times the Torah
mentions says the
we need all three of these because I
would have thought
it says it says what does it mean?
certain that went
and there certain such as that went
you could have thought
it just like as it relates to if you did
one mat alone keeper how do I know that
that's yesterday's
keepers you would think that when it
comes to the it should be the same thing
but there's another way to look at it
there are certain that went
and there are certain that went you
could think
just like when it comes to the over
there you have to do all this
so when it comes to the put
there too if you one of the
it should be nothing in other words the
is a little trickier whether or not you
should learn it from
because maybe you should learn it from
the that was put in and by the put in
the there all the like the Mishna said
so you could have thought that the was
born
to all the would be it says the Bryson
so if we're going to have to figure out
should I compare the that was put on the
sign to the other
that were on the Right. Well, then one
would be enough. Or maybe I should
compare it to the itself that was put on
where all the were. So says the price.
Do we say that the commonality between
the was and the other put on is stronger
because it's and therefore I'm not going
to learn the from the
because I'd rather say the are the same
that's their
right number one and number two is the
same not one
is the same. They're both in the
which is not number one said it doesn't
involve the right
like the Bryson said. So this is all the
time that the Bryson talk coming to the
punch line. So it's for that reason
because the Tyra knew we were going to
be confused. We were going to have this
stalemate. We were mamish not going to
know how to go about this. We we're
going to be unsure and uncertain whether
when it comes to the that was put on the
should we compare it to the other dham
that were put on the where one is going
to be enough see yesterday's d or should
we compare it to the dham that was put
on the all the see the coming so we
we're going to be unsure we're stuck
between these two do I'M NOT SURE WHERE
TO PUT THE d that was put on the it's
for that reason the terror said
the ter wrote the word extra three times
to teach me. You should know you're
going to get
even if you didn't do everything you was
supposed
to get.
You're going to get even if you only did
two. You're going to get
you're going to get even if you only did
one. And that's help. So who knows that
one is going to be enough cuz it says
three times and each is one from being
the says four
only three if it's two if it's even one.
Oh that's the
whole is predicated on the word being
extra. How's extra? Tyra says do what
you have to do. You're going to get if
the Torah would say maybe you wouldn't
know you got
said as
let me tell you the way it was explained
to me by it says in the
also saysap
and are really one in the same and being
that the one and the same in the anyway
says so therefore the word actually is
extra again why is it extra because it
says andl mean the exact same thing what
does coming to teach memory
explained it very nicely and this you
want to say is a I'll accept the Josh I
don't think it's a you know why because
even if you want to tell me that is
coming to be it's coming to say
something I would have thought is really
not but it's a leap of faith to say that
is saying that there are certain that
are not at all. Maybe we should say
maybe what the is coming to say is that
although was supposed to have four
on the four car but maybe the is saying
that even if he only did three on the
car he only did three lo by the way it's
of that the dam goes
right
that's always more but maybe what The is
saying is that you're going to get even
if you didn't do three or you didn't do
four you only did three did one you're
going to get
the second says that even if you didn't
do
three on top you only did two on top and
then finally
maybe the third is coming to teach me
that even if you didn't do anything
you did all them that you're going to
get so says the even if you want to
assume the premise of this Joshua that
is coming to be but is coming to tell me
that these
these
are not at all maybe they are but all
the is saying with is that they're not
to be and essentially what the Torah is
saying is that if you want it to be all
that's going to be fine if you didn't do
four you only did three if you didn't do
three you only did two and the last is
even if you didn't anything he did all
of them even then it's going to be fine
but the says
if that's where you're going to be
so you essentially the whole of the
meaning you want to tell me that the are
coming to tell me that you could bring a
card and not do anything on the at all
it can't be but the says what kind of is
that
and if the is telling you that it's not
then it's not we have to hit the pause
button for one second for two reasons to
explain what we just learned and to
really segue into the gumar that we're
about to learn and that is the garra
said that even if you accepted
all these are coming to say that there's
certain that you don't have to do it all
maybe you have to do all four the are
coming to tell me that you don't have to
do the in proper mo they don't all have
to be maybe you could do these well
thear says if that's the case then
essentially what's going to emerge is
they don't have to do any.
Now, how does
know that if you're going to keep in
this way, you're going to end up with a
situation where none of this is because
he read the the words of the Gmorra
maybe should mean
I'm
serve tell even IF YOU DIDN'T DO
anything all you did was says you mean
to tell me keep
the response I don't know if that's what
the terrorist said that's what is so
long so I can't even read the gar how do
you read the gar the gar skip a digit
right the first is telling me that as
long as you do three that's fine the
second is telling me as long as you do
two the Third is telling me even if you
do none. No, the third is telling me
even if you did only one. And if that's
what the third is telling me then has no
so was off with the math. Literally
skipped a digit. I mean this is like uh
fireable offense. Like literally the
time of the bryer skipped a a full digit
and because of that it triggered
what's so has a whole to make sense of
this. If you look at the hag at the very
end of so in the tis says what he thinks
rash's in this gammor is and that is
that the gammor is tining that if the
third is telling me that you would be
able to do at the very least three l and
only one would have to be lo that means
of could be if
well then all of as well and if all the
be israkus
So if that's the case
response is
if that's what the said
let it be bottle and that says the
what would be an Indian that requires
three
you would think it's the way Rashi
explains
that God brings
is not accepting that and being that is
not accepting that so is saying that you
want to tell me that
is coming to tell me that you don't need
it can't be that it's coming to teach me
that you don't need because even if
is talking about the car but you only
have three
there's there's only three right so I
would still think that you need one car
if I still think you would need one car
it can't
is coming to tell me no caress at all.
You still need one carrot. And if that's
the case, that's a on that possibility
again
means that only one is the cash is maybe
it's coming to tell me that the
if it would say four times I would know
the may but it only says three times. If
it says three times, how do I know the
but comes with the obvious comeback and
that is
okay. So it says vibra only three times.
I mean that it says vibra only three
times. I can only knock out three cars.
But maybe that's what is coming to teach
me. It's coming to teach me that at
least three of them don't have to be on
the car and only one has to be on the
car. So again it's it's just semantics.
So you're right. It can't be the in
world is coming to tell me that you
don't need at all. You sure need what?
Cuz I only have three mut. Okay. But
maybe that's what is coming to tell. How
do I know it's coming to tell me that
you only need one? Maybe you need four
reco
is coming to tell me I only need one of
them to be on the car. So the says that
no that was never an option and this is
all included in what meant that was
never an option because
you don't find such where the can be
had to be had to be but that
so
is coming to tell me that you don't have
to do anything you could do everything
that's okay but if the most you're going
to take out is that You can do one and
three. That means the is basically
telling you there's a
and that's not something that's tenable.
And just to be clear, even though we
have a
so like the said a minute ago
could tell you whatever the T wants to
tell you, but this is so to speak in
that there is no precedent for such a
thing. And being that there's no
precedent for such a thing, it's not
that that's what's going on over here.
But says that true
went into the
and he did and it says that the he did
was
now the understands now that what does
it mean?
One was literally on the part of the cap
and the other seven were on the part. So
you see there's a concept of
now to be clear this is not on the but
still you see an idea of
but the answers that
no there it means something else in fact
if you look at the they struggle to
understand how the could have even made
such a mistake because really it's the
it means something else what it means
means not on a higher part of the capus
versus a lower part of the capus fact
never even went on the capus. What it
means is explains my
demonstrated
what it means is that the when he used
to give malus so he would hit the person
39 times but he didn't hit him all 39
times in the same place cuz he'd kill
him. So what he would do is he would do
one on top and then a little lower then
a little lower a little little lower. So
too when the would do the so you didn't
want all the dam to land in the same
place but they would land like in a row
and the reason we call it
is because one of them the backside of
that's hand when he did was facing down
so that was like a a movement that went
upwards. So one was Lala, the other one
he wanted to be a little bit closer to
him. So he had the back of his hand
facing up. The movement was but the
point is has nothing to do has nothing
to do with it being on a higher or lower
place. We never found a place where you
would have
and if that's the case can't be coming
to teach me that because there's no
precedent for that. What then must have
been coming to teach me? must be coming
to teach me that
even if you didn't do four you did three
even if you didn't do three you did two
and you didn't do you didn't you did one
that's giving up but the continues still
is that true that you don't find
anywhere a concept of
and this two is talking about the
special
specifically in this case the taken the
dam of the par and the dam of the soy
right his par and the s of hashem And he
mixed them all together and he had to do
a whole series of and amongst the series
of seven of them were also
says my what does mean does it not
probably mean
probably means the midpoint of the now
what does mean the midpoint because
people will say sometimes
says noon time noon time is considered
this lotion of
but either Noon is the middle of the day
and in the same vein that noon is middle
of the day. So the shak would mean the
midpoint of the what's the kasha the
kash is that if you're throwing towards
the midpoint of the inevitably you're
going to end up with some if there's a
that you can't have
then this whole
should be an issue and for the fact that
it's not an issue you see it's okay. So
maybe the way you
is some are going to be some are going
to be
But said no, it's not what it means. It
doesn't mean the midpoint of the but
rather what it means is it means the top
of the what's the word would mean the
top it says.
Now what it means is is that sometimes
the is very clear like you look up at
the sky and it's like a clear sky.
That's what the word means. It's pure.
It's clear. There's no clouds. It's a
beautiful day. That's the t of the word.
The top of the misbeh was referred to as
t because they used to clean the top of
the mb. They would remove the dash from
it. It was a place that sometimes was
busy but also sometimes was clean. But
the bottom line is he's means the top of
it doesn't hit points and as a result
it's not a that sometimes the could be
but the asks one other
good what about the so the for example
the dam was put on the
was put on the that's so again you have
an idea where the dam is a little bit le
now this is a little bit of an
interesting kasha because the shir is
not a z right we're discussing
It's a m
but say that's not a because we're
talking about
the whole is a mitzvah right that's all
it is it's an extra credit as a result
it's not a but says what about the
put on the
there is a that holds it meaning the
shim of the dam that was put on there's
that was now we were put on but there
was no but the point is there is that
hold that it was so again you have an
idea we have
you don't find it on one over there it's
two separate and because it's two
separate so maybe over there it's it's
going to be possible on one
is where it's two misbas it's like a
separate where it's one misb it's a he
of the same so you're gonna tell me part
of that was part of that was that's
impossible. So which is clearly coming
to mitigate something right? It's coming
to tell me you would have thought this
it could be maybe not as much as you
thought. It can't be. It's coming to
tell me you would have thought all four
need to be on the count really if you
want one to do one or two or three
that's going to be okay. That is not a
possibility because you don't find
anywhere dumb.
What then is the coming to teach me the
even if you didn't do four meaning you
missed out one complete you're better
not doing it than doing it in the wrong
place right that's what emerges but the
point is is that it could be the terror
is telling me
even three is enough two is enough even
one is enough this is then the third
mikart let's make now the final recap on
this part of the d and that is we have a
mik is between bi
and B with regards to the whose dam was
put on the how many of the were
according to Basil one just like it's
one it's one according to B shi over
here you would have to have two
one
in the three times each is pronounced
if that's the case means six there's
only four kers four of the mitzvah the
other two is that's how you know two is
going to be according to we have not one
mahal we have three mahal the first
malik is holds
so carnis is not 2 plus 2+ 2 it's 1 + 1
plus 2 which is four all four mitzvah
how do I know even one is because can't
be that not even one is
the second is that base pill actually
holds that the way you treat
is that you cut the baby in half. You
negotiate.
If that's the case,
the suggest six is just four. What you
end up with is five. Oh, five. That's
great. For the mitzvah, one is that's
how you end up with the fifth one. The
third mahalakar
was that it's not learned out from at
all but it's learned out from the three
mentions of the that it says in the par
of the all three are extra because it
says
and
it's all one and the same rightap but
really high level they're the same. We
know there's nuance but again high level
they're the same
they're very different but again high
level they're the same.
So why would the have to say the already
said must be is coming to be something
in the says four even if it was only
three
that even one is going to be enough says
more on this note
said
the
and one as relates to
their matter and their method. So what
does this mean? What this means is that
mater
one of its functions was to be m it was
m
and it was murim.
We know that a person could also have a
mash is piggle while he's doing a so it
says in the world of when it comes to
bonus let's go backwards the one that's
the matter you do that one eat the
you have avle during that one you have
the pickle when it comes however to the
being that the requires two so over
there you would need to do both in order
for the bus to
they were to be able to be put on the
back and you would have to do both in
order to establish a piggle because
being that the two together are what
make up the so it's for that reason if
you have them in totality then you're
going to have the outcome of if you
don't have them in totality then you're
not going to have the outcome of this
second thing that that according to B
you need the two in order to create
pigle is what's known as I mean you
could have thought that even though I
need two but if I have one that
shouldn't create big it's what's known
as
that's coming up very much in the next
couple of days either way this is all
talking continued and he said
however who holds that
and there's only one That's so
that one that's
going to be and is going to be as well
says
if right and it's almost not clear how
he could be wrong but if right he's just
doing a little bit of math here then
what would emerge is then there's a
shami
What's the if somebody would have avo
this is the gans and as a result it's
going to be pickle if that's the case
you have a k over b and the kash is that
we know that elsewhere and the elsewhere
is a mak this idias Kazam made a very
big deal about certain cases where
Bishame was makeover Bil because
traditionally and really if you go
through all the different
between B and B what you find is that in
almost all cases B is the M is the B is
the Kaz pointed out when it was K
and it didn't mention this so
I have
that was not mentioned in the
says when he asked this I hear what
you're saying meaning you're meaning
very good but the reason it wasn't
mentioned in the is
when the between was said meaning when
this was presented originally the was
not holding in the pickle. It's not what
they were learning. They were learning
the suga of being m bus buster and being
mur and the shil was when it comes to
the kakas how many zikas do he need to
be m and bul saying what and saying two
was the not being that the original was
said in a context where basul was being
and it was being it's for that reason it
went down as a and as it's not mentioned
in that exception list of
you want to know
Yeah, very often you could take a and
you could twist it this way and twist it
that way and you're going to end up with
ramifications where all of a sudden I
became the and you became the right true
but
at the end of the day was one that was
being bishi was one that was being mak
it's for that reason this is the way it
was presented by the tano and we are
going to stop here and return to some of
the raid that we were talking about
during the last few daffin and that is
the kimish
of parasyak.
So
we've been discussing that when noyak
leaves the
very very first thing that does is he
builds
I saw in the
here in Paris he brings
from the shuh yala that's the great
goyan
and this is in his chu inbant
test. Everybody knows, everybody lar
every kid in pre-1A/primary
knows that no was told to take two
animals into the z but that was from the
non-coosher animals from the kosher
animals he was told to take shiva he was
told to take seven and seven
says that why does hashem want me to
take more from the kosher animals than
from the non-coosher animals. Remember
at that point you weren't allowed to eat
meat. So there was no concept of kosher.
Maybe I could eat this, I can't eat
that. It's not because I'll have more
dinner from the kosher animals. Must be
it's because Hashem wants me to bring
carbonas. That must be the and that was
really part and parcel of the impetus of
to go and immediately build them as and
to bring the carbon. But no took two of
the non-coosher. He took 14 of the
kosher, right? Not one z but he took
seven zugos of the kosher animals and
the purpose was to bring carbonas
this kasha always bothered it's
no went and he brought carbonus right he
did exactly what he thought he was
supposed to do what were the carbonus
that he brought the says
everybody knows that a carbon is only
it's not so if the carbono that brought
were carbon It's a
so what's he doing with all those? He
can't bring a as a carbon. This is his
he says it always bothered me. He said
doesn't know doesn't know. Everyone
knows this takes the seven the seven he
brings them as by the way
they talk about why seven why why that
have to be the number says when it comes
to seven is a magic number but the
bottom line is that it was
the and if that's the case
he doesn't understand if the
can't be broken so the says a
and really it's
talk about talked away.
How do you know that uh
could be brought on
because the says in
that's a female and he brought it as a a
carbon says the
from here you learn that could be
brought as a said
What's going on here? Is taking these
and he's bringing them as a carbon is
not it's not true. It's
built.
WHAT ELSE was it?
SO IT'S THAT'S WHY HE was able to bring
in a even as a carbon obviously
my terror that I'm saying is really
and it's totally in yesterday's ra it's
to in how you understand this
it's totally in how you understand the
governed
the carbon that brought if you hold that
was a bummer in
in
with the learned that the when it came
to Abama you were allowed to bring me
not only from is from who brought
in other words it was by the way we
didn't mention this yesterday but
there's another
where the has a shy law with regards to
somebody brings a carbon outside of the
So this is the part of someone's
and is in the
what type of one would have to do in
order to be do you have to be milled on
a or is it enough if you on a rock as
long as you do some sort of and theor
says what's a tollian it's what a beas
meaning the
is governed by the definition of
Obama had to be so then the
would have to be a if didn't have to be
then the bash is would not have to be
either says the I'll just read it inside
again my time at the rap is the one that
holds that bish he needed to be mac on
not just on a rock or on some barbecue
because the says
you see what was
even the
says that could be when it says
doesn't mean a it means it was some that
had a little bit of elevation it was
some sort of pedestal But
this also like the later
and even earlier
that the
was it was
he was able to bring in but we spoke out
to
said that we was the
it was done on
and we saw some of and the brings
base
and that's the place that went ahead and
brought his carb and we mentioned for
that said that it's
that if that's where the carbonus
brought then it they were governed they
were governed by the regular
etc and we said it also from the
it's clear the understood that at least
according ing to the sheet of the medish
the
of was a proper misb and the carbonus
that we brought were proper carbon if
that's the case
of course
but the cash
because
that holds
yeah
however Right? If you think about it and
holds
and it's governed by whereas the medish
holds that it's a prop it's governed by
mikt either way that's the first the
second is that
in his classic piece that we spoke about
the last few days here in
it's the third raid bite on this. So one
of the
kashes that he asks
is that the Pik says
and there's a in the beginning of the
end that says
it's a essentially how could it be
the
of was on a bomb and if it was on Obama
now doesn't ask it as a he brings this
as support as a riot to the that holds
that took place
and as a
says just reading it
In other words, according to the
that holds that
was Obama the
is a very very strong and that is to the
extent that it was how could the polic
say
it was and an
there's no such thing as as maybe you
could say and this is a little but maybe
you could say
another that we mentioned so many times
over the years this is a classic
Ben
classic and some
and this is in
brings that everybody knows that Right.
There was as to the
famously said that the reason the gave a
mitzvah of
the whole purpose was because people in
the ancient world certainly had an to
bear and there was this uh inclination
to go ahead and take an animal and to
serve it up to some sort of deity.
That's a very very bad thing. So to be
from the and the typ that were the
gave us he gave us he gave us all the
laws of carbon it's doing a but kosher
with a and by you now channeling that
urge to bear
like this
you're gonna distance yourself from
the beginning of par brings the rama and
he doesn't like it. His
these are foolish words.
Says, "I can't believe the Ram said
this. The whole is that the
etc etc. It's all to be from the tips
and the you're literally taking the
and you're giving it some
nexus to you're making the and is with
all the things that he doesn't like
about the and then he says that there's
no question in the world that when a
person bought a carbon you were being
piled tremendous things in first Ramban
explains it in a very deep way also
in the words of like only could say
the idea of carbon is to be
it's like some
spiritual electricity
but either way so we had this big what
was the purpose of carbonus according to
the it was literally
according to
It's an ele
maybe you could be I'm going to be and
I'm going to be and that is it could be
the carbonos that were brought on in the
md first is the carbonos that were
brought on the b the carbonus that were
brought in the mikto that's
the
But the carbon that were brought on
why YOU BRING ON IT'S NOT IN the it's
not it's like IT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD on a
nice Sunday afternoon with a frisbee.
Like what are you doing? Like that's
something that YOU SHOULD BE DOING THAT
carbon
the whole purpose of it. The wholeis of
it was
that's what it was ALL ABOUT COULD BE
THAT'S why said
because like yelled at that's THE
BIGGEST IN THE WORLD THAT has a from the
carbon and in the
from the carbon
but the where the whole idea was
to be the person from well over there
purpose of it that's not
and if that's the case
and that's meant when they said
one of the things says
he says
so we know there's
Even
that it would emerge that after there's
a hat saying that brings
one of the one of the who said that even
if you
love this still was an is
It's very big because if it's
then there should be a on this but even
if you hold
this
by the way this was the Ager's big or
one of his big tus toes Kalisher when
Khalisha came up with his idea to bring
a carbon p in the 19th century and you
know the first question was are you lad
even bring carbonus bisman that's the
first question before you get to the
gart and darman and the and all the
things that we spoke
But but the first things
right
what's the first could you bring
a carbon boy if
you can bring
say you're bringing who cares you forgot
what do you mean you're willing to take
the places to say was wrong that THERE'S
A SHANK
BUT STILL, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY if
so why in the world would be
what does that mean? Sounds like this
was more than just a
he says
it was revealed to me a secret
such a and that is that the whole of was
like it was
that was the whole purpose that was the
whole of
we know that after
once
deserved there was no purpose anymore to
have on and it's for that reason even if
they're still innocent it's not
it's a whole different it's based on
the HOLY
so why you doing it you're doing IT
BECAUSE OF THE ARE YOU DOING BECAUSE of
the there's no reason to do that once
but either way this is what maybe again
maybe you could say
and this is in
he brings a medish
is
we say three times a for
says the
we
that the and the should be so sweet. It
should be so by you. It should be so
nothing by the it should be
like the carbon the carbon that brought
and like the carbon that he brought says
the
carbonus because the gave a reason for
says gave a reason
that's the one and then the
way paraphrase doesn't say electric
that he uses to explain the and the
I'm not BEING BUT ON SOME level they're
both true we have the mahal of the ra
the and we have the
right so you have these two grace and
they're both there's there's em to both
of them there has to be some sort of em
to both of them but says the
says the
means that every time there was a carbon
that was brought on the one hand this
carbon was coming to to the it was a
right you have all the
tifa Yonim that are mentioned in the
Raman's
but there was another element to this
carbon the other element to this carbon
was that it's also to be
a being that part of this was to be the
person from that took away a little bit
from the
of the carbon
says there was No in the world started
he lived before and comes out of THERE'S
NO ONE ELSE THERE AND himself is at
right we know at
those two points there was no in the
world and being that at those two points
there was noar in the world SO THE
CARBON THAT WERE BROUGHT BY HE AND BY
RESPECTIVELY DIDN'T HAVE IN IT THIS
dimension of the
all it was was all it was was the
all it was was the
if that's the case those carbonas were
so sweet by the because those carbonas
were purely there was no other element
that was involved in this and if that's
the case we
saw infer
in a footnote he mentions this and then
he says if you take a look in the
so the
were written by the ran is one of the
always quotes the ran the was
one of the so this is inro
it's right in the beginning in his first
he brings this madress and he says the
same exact shot as the and then he
brings it from
also said this. So this is a very that
the said that's
when somebody brought a carbon there was
always the right that's always getting
in the way and that makes the
carbon
like the like said but during this kufa
there was no in the world if there was
noar in the world so what was the carbon
so the carbon was only if it was only
that's the sweetest carbon
It could be that it's true
and it could be the is that
was Obama and the they were governed by
all the of how you're supposed to bring
a a carbon as a but again when brought
his carbon there was no
of being
it didn't exist there was no such
because We understand those are the
sweetest carbonas that were ever brought
because there was nothing else. If there
was nothing else those carbonas theis of
those carbon were and that's
those carbon despite the fact that they
were brought on Obama in brought on
Obama but
that suggested this could be at that
time at that time where there was no of
being
that
in this point is this carbon right is
the purpose of this carbon right now to
give some
orbus
we're in a day where there was no that's
by definition it had to be a a by the
way just to briskish this a little bit
Right? There's an idea of a carbon being
brought into that's also not that's the
carbon right
famously said that's why the struggle to
bring carbon was always the carbon
it was always the carbon the one carbon
that doesn't say that's a carbon that
was brought on that didn't have
this is a carbon that was brought on
Obama that did have because the whole
Indian of it not having is the fact is
the fact that there's in the world and
that's what the carbon does
nothing do whatever and that's why
and it wasn't just
gives us a little bit of a deeper
appreciation for those very last words
that we say every day
right again to appreciate what was read
the next
says I understand man. Man has his
shortcomings. We all have our
shortcomings.
Says I'm never going to harm mankind
again. the way I did it. I'm going to
have a whole another attitude, a certain
sensitivity with the understanding
like the times of like who would have
thought there's such a big here in those
two that talk about
like the times of he a time where it's
going to be
is going to be removed from the world
and really all our is not going to be
any more.