Zevachim 15

Today's and we are 10 lines from the bottom of today's being learned as a for today's also being learned. It's actually the first yard site of our dear friend Buddha Shamron. He was very much a member of the Kabura. We miss him very very dearly. And may tonight's learning be an ali. So we're in the middle of the of as in the third of the four and specifically we saw a big in the giml with regards to a ken that has ais while he's doing the is that the same as a pelisto and or is perhaps treated differently. We saw that featured very prominently. We also very briefly saw the sheet of that's going to make another strong appearance in today's regardless the topic of today's are different related to the of the following question. In the event that a did but he didn't move. It was a quote unquote. Is that considered or is it not considered? First the mitsasw was taking the dam after the kabalo bringing it to the misb so that you can now do the conventional way to do is to walk the blood to the misb. The question is what would be if the cyan didn't physically walk but rather he passed the dam to somebody kayen who then passed it to another kayen who passed it to another cen but the entire took place. The question is is the definition of walking or is the definition of transporting. Now my so if you take a look at Rashi Rashi says there are two in number one what would be if and he had a he had would that impact the carbon or would it not impact the carbon if so he had a doing one of the of Of course, it's going to impact the garment if it's not considered. So, he just had a bad but he didn't do a pas if he didn't do a obviously it's not going to have any impact on the garbage. Traditionally, what would be aar took the dam and he was but he did it that does is and it would the dam it would pass the carbon. If then what emerges is that the did as a result the carpet's going to be possible is so the zar tampered a little bit with the dam but he didn't do a if he didn't do an it's going to be neither here nor there. These are the two of the speaks out. If you take a look at the bottom on the says two nights, but really there's a more obvious. The more obvious would be in the event that a did a do you now have to unwind what it is that you just did is something you have to do. Now there is a concept as we saw very much in yesterday's d where you do the in a place where maybe you won't have to do but the minute you do now there's an there's a mitzvah you have to be to the place of the where you'll be able to do this. So if so then it's considered there's no reason to unwind it. If is well, if that's the case, you're missing the you would have no choice but to unwind what it is you did and do it all over again. Bottom line is Rashi gave us two navas. Tyus gave us a third. They're all true. And this is really very much the backdrop for the majority of today's says the so we could bring a from the brought on the top of the said plea was talking about different in regarding and one of the mentioned was if the person is sitting while he's doing the now it sounds like it's possible to do the of while sitting stating that because you're sitting you can't do any avoid while you're sitting it's going to be a problem but says it sounds like in the event that the was standing but he was standing in a way that is similar to the Bryce's case of sitting which is bustle That would be okay. Meaning if you're going to tell me that is so why do I need a anytime the person is sitting by definition he's not moving. So what would be the terret says it would beh must be because if possible then every it's not because it's and it's from the if it was if he was standing as long as he's not sitting even though he's not moving because that's the case of it would be okay but the says no right because could be the case of that the says is not okay is where he was sitting but he was like squirming a little bit. He was moving while he was sitting. The point is he was moving that he was moving it's considered as it and it's for that reason it's a problem but the case of that would be would be would be a comparable case where he's moving a little bit else and that would be fine because at the end of the day he's being the thought that from the fact that that's the biggest in the world that is considered because if then is not moving and would be no if he's not moving then would be a problem as well. The terrorist says you have to say is talking about a case where he was actually moving a little bit while he was sitting says I'll bring you another ayah and this is from that was talking about the carbon did right at that point it's not anymore the would do the would give it to his friend and he would give it to his friend and he would ne then give it to his friend. It was a whole assembly line of until finally it came time to do this. This is the description that the Mishna gives for the way the carbon pes was brought. But what's the cash? It sounds like the way the was happening was one kay was passing it over to another kay was passing it over to a third kay was passing it to a fourth k sounds like nobody's moving. It's nobody's moving. Then what do you see from say no? It could be each although he's passing he was also moving a little bit. says if that's the case in my what's the meaning if you're going to tell me that there's a novelty in this and that is that simply passing over the dam is considered uh so it's very that's what the Mishna is coming to tell me but if you're telling me they were moving a little bit anyways so then what exactly is the Mishna there was a that's the way every carbon was brought what exactly is the Mishna coming to tell me I'll tell you What the mission is coming to say is they tried having as many kayan as possible. There was an assembly line. You think one couldn't do the work? Of course he could have. But being that this is there's an idea of right even when it comes to dominating with a minion there's a with a lot of people that's connected that was done in the mto. So there's no question in the world there's a this is the coming to teach me this but again there's no says I'll bring you a third and this is from a over there says keep what would be if that wasab so there was a and now did apostle and he handed it over to somebody that was possible a zar or a to someone that's not allowed to do So the Mishna says what the apostle should now do is he should give it back to the meaning unwind what it is that just happened. Now the Mishna is coming to teach me is that even though there was a puzzle that held the dam at some point that in of itself is neither here nor there. It says there's another thing that you see from here. There's a second thing that you see over here. And you know what that second thing is? You see from here that is you know why? Because if you're going to tell me that then why do you have to unwind the that was did the he passed it over to that was a you know what the ken should now do the ken should go take it out of the hand of the zar and if he wants to walk it walk it if he wants to pass it pass it why does what the ken did have to be unwound again the fact that he passed it over to a who cares that in and it of itself is not a problem right he would be to quote the top of the and it's the he's just the beam he's just the place that you decided to put it down the terret is if you have to unwind it must be because the whole is not a good why would not be a good was done by again the fact that you gave it to a we don't care so what exactly would be the issue oh the terret must be because it's but from here is Why do you have to unwind it? But the says that's true. If you keep the gears to the way we have it, you could always do a little bit of an edit and you could say not could be what the is saying is that not that the D would have to be brought back to where it was. No, what we're saying is that the kosher the can come take it from the handed apostle and continue along with if that's the right then what the Mishna is saying is not what it's saying is that is and it's okay to do even though you didn't move the point is that being that you gave it to Apostle you just have to make sure the apostle himself is not going to go v with this so what do you need to do you need to go and take it from him and now continue with your but the could be is not but rather and if that's the case you don't have a you have a from here that being that you have no whether or obviously there's not much you could do with this but here's the point we have this brought three to try to of the was unsuccessful. So what's the bottom line? It's the next words. So said he was from the great that as it relates to and again what does it mean? It means if a would do it would not pass the garbage. If a would have a while he was doing a it would not pass the carbon. It also means that if you do a you have to unwind that because is not considered a it's not considered a you have to do you're going to have no choice but you're going to have to unwind it says the another sh part two in the event that there was a that was done says at this point we mean even if we just said is could you be in it or could you not be now first line you're going to say isn't that the we just saw a second ago right two ways how you can maybe learn that yes and that's going to be the initial but first but could you be or could you not be now what would be the appropriate way to say over this what's the is is a just not a okay so I have to do this is not a so unwind it and now do a proper or is so just like if you would do with it's not like okay let's just do it all over again you know doesn't always work that way in life sometimes you can make something puzzle and unfortunately you can't do right so if it's puzzle it's going to be puzzle the sh is it only not if that's the case you could be in it or is it actually and if it's well then there's no way to be first right clients we have a from this that we mentioned a minute ago right the if the did and he gave it over to apostle so what's the you should give it back to the kosher Right? It was a problem. That's why you're being that's why you're unwinding it. Right? We're going now with the gear. But you see that on that side there's an option of very very that you see for sure that there's an ability and the Gmorra says like this even though we said earlier that there's two ways you can learn the Mishna. either or the right there's another he could learn it not give it back to the but let the come and take it from you but even if you go with that it's not going to work because at the end of the day if you can't be at that point the is possible and if is possible then there's no way to be massaced so if the gear says it's that you can go ahead and you can be misin but it's also going to be a problem. Now the truth is have a very hard time trying to understand in this line what was that the way you're supposed to read this is not the entertain that possibility so why is it the it's not rather it's let the go and take it that's again if you But we're going now in this. We're just trying to figure out is it only not or is it actually? So what are you telling me? No, no, no. That's not even on the table right now. Because that whole side of was and we're for sure going now what means to say what the means to say is no matter how you slice and dice that one thing is for sure that just because you did this this regular now it doesn't mean that the game is over and it doesn't mean that there's no way to be misin at first glance you see there There's a but says it could be this really has no shar who said that what's going on over here is where the case was where the zar was standing meaning where the zar was standing closer to the maybe the case was not that way but RATHER THE HE WAS standing farther away from the meaning we assume means it was a forward motion Right? He's bringing it closer to the misbehing closer to the if you're going to if you're going the wrong way. Well, then it's not at all. Now what would be the then is that a guy who's not allowed to be involved in the dam is holding it right now. So you would have thought that's awes but it's not a to when it's a forward motion. This is a backward motion and being that it's a backward motion meaning I'll tell you and not just that why could you be this because it was a backward movement it wasn't a forward movement says the so what's the bottom line regarding this again in the name is going to it is. What does mean that it is uh meaning there's no way to be and it says what do you see from right you think that's what we've been saying you see that there's no way to so was the one who in the name of like one he was not only that was the first but it's this is the second jumped on and he asked him from in the event that did and then after he did the dam spilled out of the ki and now it's all over the floor and then a went and he gathered the dam kasha the is that it's going to be kasha what's the kasha the kasha is that there's a that you have to do and means you have to walk the d and over here where it and the dam just did its thing. You didn't do a a proper. If that's the case, if anything, it's right dropped on the floor and then you went and picked it up from wherever it was. And you see it could be makinet because what was saying in his name and that is that is something that would go ahead and would pass. If it would pass then why is There was a that was done, right? It pouring on the floor. We're considering And once it's at that point, it's game over. It's not even a question of walk it back, walk it forward. Once it's you want to know what's going on in that it's talking about where the blood spilled, but it spilled again backwards being that it spilled backwards. It was so what is the issue? The issue was it was right 101101 that if it's not possible when is a problem where it's before it fell into the as we'll see in one second and again in detail on but the bottom line is that the over here is that in and of itself is not a problem but you want to tell me that there's an issue over here because it's talking about where it went backwards but Gomorrah says, "Come on, let's be honest. Nothing. How's it possible?" Right? Blood has a mind of its own. You're going to go ahead. You're going to spill a a cup of blood, right? A cup of juice. It's going to fly all over the place. It's not going to only go in one direction. It's not mubbed that that's what's going on in the mission. It's too dark in the says, "No, I'll make there was a little bit of a slant, a little bit of a slope. So when the client spilled it, it all rolled backwards because of the maj or maybe it all landed in a ditch. Maybe it's talking about where it was very thick the blood, right? Blood is naturally thick. So just because of the of the blood, maybe it didn't have an ability to jump around so much. says it's just funny that the of this is talking about one of the affformentioned it feels a little bit dark but I'll ask you another why does the mission tell me in the next right this is that in the event that the and the dam spilled on the floor and Then went and he took the dam from the floor. So it's not considered a what's known as the right the original that we mentioned a second ago is where it was then it was but now the why does the Mishna have to tell me if the Mishna wants to tell me a case of it doesn't have to tell me maybe the most famous it could tell me something else. You know what it could say? A case where it was why is that better? Because that's because there's a case of which is and there would also be a case of that would be possible. How so? Meaning you're telling me that the only reason is because it all poured backwards. But if it would pour forwards, it would be possible. Why would it be possible? because that's the first member of and it's also that's the second if however it would be in a way where it fell backwards. Well, in that case it wouldn't be a problem. The reason it wouldn't be a problem is because then there was no and being that there was no there's no issue. Meaning there's a case of where it would be and there's a case of it would be if it was and I went forward it's if it's I went backwards it's k so if the mishna wants to differentiate and distinguish between two types of nishbs the kosher and the what the could have done was stick in and tell me a case of kosher and a case of case of kosher is where it goes backwards or it falls into a ditch and the case of would be when it went forward. What is the Mishna's case of a nishb that's possible where wasn't it was before it entered the and that's the case apostle why do you need to tell me such a case of like likes this so much that the says because of this you have to say checkmate second mess again has two members regarding the first one is the If a would do it, it wouldn't possible the carbon. If it was done with it doesn't pass the carbon. If you do, you have to unwind, right? That's something that has to be unwound. The second is that it's which means by the way you can't unwind it. But as it relates to the second said as it relates to it's so means the argued whether a while he's doing would that disqualify the carbon or would it not disqualify the carbon? According to anyone it's going to be a problem according to is different right now yesterday we talked a lot about we know Arab holds us different because it's to bring a carbon without doing you could always do it but right but we're going to have to put that aside for a second because the now is going to almost make believe it doesn't know it doesn't know that Mishna in fact pun intended If you've learned this Gamar already, the Gamar is going to humor us a little bit. We'll see the pun in a second, but regardless, so as it relates to and let's just see the words of the as it relates to a proper there would have never been between the would be that us while you're doing a proper would be an issue. You want to know what this was? It was it was at the event that was now the emmesis this right here is very misleading very very very misleading because it's almost impossible not to think that when the now discusses it means what the meant when it discussed from the beginning of the daff up until this point right we had two and two from the name stating that if you learn through this properly with Rashi and the it's in the here it's clear that there's a nuance over here that actually makes this very very different than the that we were talking about up until this point until this point was did wherever now you have to take the and walk it to the see You're going to have to walk 10 ft. The proper way to do it is to walk it. Now, you did you could have, would have walked it, and instead you just decided to pass it forward and hand it off. Is that considered a or is that not considered a what the is suggesting now as it relates to the being is where the is already standing by the so let's say a proper was done and now the state by the and he has to take the dam and he has to just physically move his hands to a way where he'll be able to throw it right do together with the misra. The the question is that motion that motion the so to speak where now there's no walking anymore because you don't have to walk. You can't walk. You're going to bump your nose if you walk. You're exactly where you need to be. But at the same time, you have to do some sort of motion to get this ra going. Is that considered? Technically, it is because you're taking the dam and you're bringing it closer to the which is the definition of of or being that you're not moving anymore. It's maybe it's not going to be considered. So, it's because that's what we're dining over here, but it's very different than the original sh of because over here you're in a place you can't walk it anymore. So, it's not a sh of being that I'm supposed to be walking it and instead I'm passing it off. So is it considered uh uh or is it not considered? But here there's no walking it anymore. Here you're physically in front of them. The question now is this motion of bringing a little bit closer is not considered not considered and the suggest that it's really again whether or not it's you learn the is if you're doing says the if you're doing a prop everybody agrees it would be possible keeping you want to know what the sh was doing this and again the case is where you're in situation where you had no choice but to do this. What's the you throw a button hole is this is considered that it's considered during that action is going to be considered a problem holds that this is that is so what you're doing right now is not considered a if it's not considered there's not going to be a say and they heard his shot and they all started laughing. They thought it was very very funny. Okay, so what's so funny? So the gamorus going to have two attempts at what's so funny. The second shot of funny, but the first shot we're going to have to with a little bit. This is the first and maybe why was how is it possible if you're going to tell me that is that it's not in order for you to be able to have a well then explain to us how is it possible to have a of So was one of the two that could be brought as a carbon and was unique in that it didn't have a proper right ultimately the dam was going to end up on the misb. But what the k would do is he would take the actual o and he would like squeeze the blood up to wherever the malikica was right that's where the incision is and then he would be m he would spritz it so the blood would end up going on the it's that has to be a way to have a you're not going to tell me yet technically speaking it's impossible to have a is it has to be and the gmorra is saying that according to the understanding that is so explain to me then how is it possible to have while you're bringing now what's the well why is this a problem if you're going to tell me that the I don't know maybe the case is you tell me there has to be a okay maybe he had the before the dam emerged from the from the animal meaning the cayenne is taking the the and he's lifting it and he's stretching the d out so it goes to the point of the incision. So now he's going to be able to do that. Well, you just told me that uh I think the way you would have to define that act is as aut and you're telling me is is not you're telling me like maybe you'll tell me that you'll have the after the dam emerges, right? Well, once the d emerges at that point the mitzvah was already done and once the mitzvah was already done at that point you can't have the anymore meaning cuz once the mitzvah happened once the was done at that point you're already a day late and a dollar short so of course you can't have it there. So the says where exactly is the going to be manifest when you're doing the of the before the dam comes out that's once the dam comes out. So when exactly is it going to happen? Now there was like there's a few things that just uh I think I could at least address. Number one, I don't know if you would ask me, I would think that the act of lifting the and fetching the dam that's not a mice of what that is. That's a miso. I don't know. I would think that is the mice. So yeah, moving it closer. I don't know that to me isn't that just the why are we complicating this? Why are we calling this? Isn't that the actual act of the but the emus is the way the understands now in the that never said that you can't have a what he's saying is that the act of being by the and now bringing it closer just going through the motion the that's not the that is a and it's and it's and as a result it's not considered well okay if that's the case and as much as maybe us and our would view it as but the is suggesting right now that didn't view it that way he actually viewed it as and it's and that can't be where is going to be as it relates to so again we're viewing that initial motion not as we're viewing it as a So you can't have the according to and once you do it now right once you do it you certainly can't have the so when exactly are you going to have a mash this is another thing that needs to just be addressed again to say explain I think is a a very broad term for a guru that's hard and dense and requires a lot of but at least address and that is the kasha was that according to how could you have ava And it's really that why you asking from the if this bothers you then every should bother you when exactly you're going to have the when you're doing the motion so that's I thought it was but it's not you're telling me it's okay bringing it closer to the is not the act of it's the act of and once the dam comes out so now it's already too late So when exactly are you going to have the as it relates to so says says the reason the gumar didn't ask from because the fash maybe happens from the moment that the dam leaves the the motion of the cayen until it actually lands on the mb. So however long that's going to take right if that takes 3 seconds that's when this is happening. So if you want to have the then you're not supposed to but that's where it would be that as it relates to the once the leads at that point the is already nigmar and what's the basis for that so I'm going to tell you the basis for that the base for that is because we know there were that were done on the there were that were done on the right in the ho were considered haz even if the dam never touched the paras even if it never touched the bayad. So what do you see from those haz what you see from those haz are that the minute the is done even if it doesn't land anywhere that's going to be okay is only if it lands on the so is asking on this from not because I'm going to tell you when you're going to have the it's talking not as you're bringing the dam and you're going through the motion to bring it closer to the because That's and that's which in's world you can't have yourself. That is the most current understanding of the when will you have the it would be as soon as it left it land on the that's true but from the minute it leaves the hand of the co until it lands on the that's all. So then that's when all the bad things are happening the minute takes place at that point and we know for sure it's possible to have and the question is when exactly it going to happen if you did it the initial motion that's and if you did it a second later it was already so when exactly is it going to take place You know Terret says I don't understand what the whole is. So he just had a whole stick of dirt. Can't be that when it leaves the hand at that point it's still yeah why because of which by the way was not it's called right there's differences between now is not the time for this but it the thought that the comparable to the would be those I mean that those even before it lands where needs the land it's already so when it comes to the people you would think it's the same way but says maybe that's not the way it is I'll even prove it to you asked now we're familiar with throughout chas right they're legendary right they got thrown out of like the says in if you remember he came back into the end came back in time for the CM. We already discussed that. But any either way asked in the event that was doing and then his hand got chopped off before the dam landed what's meaning he became a after he did the but before the actually landed. So do we treat it like a B moment it's going to be told it's going to be possible my time and what's the reason the says first and then it says and we learn from there that they have to be the same and but what do you see from here you see from here that the is not considered completed until it actually lands on the well if that's the case then it's relates to If we're going to say the same exact methodology is not completed is not completed by the way that this of is not talking about the of the of the but the point is that if this of is not completed until it lands on the not complet. You want to know when exactly the would happen if we assume that is that it would be from the time it leaves the hand of the until it lands on the what are we basing it on we're basing it on the it doesn't have to land on the doesn't have to land on the but it's not really true because you see for that if it was before it landed it would be puzzled that means the is still being just like by this we knew for a double that's way it You see it's the way it is with regards to well that's when the would take place either way. So again the suggested that maybe whether or not you can have is not talking about your classic it's talking about that last minute when you're standing by the already and you're going through this motion of taking the d and bringing it closer to the that's what the is that is what we're arguing about. referring to it as using that term loosely because it's a little different than in the vernacular of the and maybe that's the right don't need explanation needs explanation of is that and as a result that would not be a for you to be able to have a but when they heard this they laughed and the question is why did they laugh so first thing suggested they laughed because how would it possible to have the say no that's not funny right that's pretty serious there's a way to do that they came back from they said I'll tell you what the joke is right sometimes you have a gamar with to figure out the joke but I'll tell you why they were laughing because you're going to TELL ME IS I MEAN THIS SOUNDS YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THEY'RE NOT ARGUING BY THEY ARE arguing by okay so it's it's because read the because it's possible I mean that it's so it's for that reason you can't have a to do That is not as it relates to this. Everybody agrees that you can have a now you see there's a says others had the not take a look at Rashi also had both gear. But the bottom line is as it relates to could you have a That last move of bringing the dam closer to the what we're referring to as right the second either everybody holds it is poss what was the proper what is the go back and learn and you'll see a little bit of an explanation of what exactly the is. Moving along says the what would be if did very important one word rash this is not now we're doing so what would be if did and then a coen took it from the zar and brought it back rashi says that the coen brought it back somebody brought it Right. And then the went and he did a proper what happened did this is very very bad right cuz the minute does really the carbon should be possible. The question is if could we unwind it and get it right this time or not? Once again, would it be or not? One said, one said it's the other one said it's going to be the one that said it's he holds it can be the other one. The one that said holds you can't be mak. Again, let's not confuse this with the on the top of the something completely different. We're talking about where did it was and the question is could you be that was done by a or could you not? Now Rashi speaks out that really is a very because when it comes to the other if a zar would do avoid once the zar does the at that point you're out of business. There's one exception. The exception is that if apostle does kabala there's an idea of you can maybe do another kabala addresses it. It's beyond the scope of what we need for this right now. But the bottom line is usually if a would do a it would knock out the avoid. So really the is saying a very big is going to be different. Again one of the themes of the last few is a little bit different. Not all of the were created equally is a little bit different and you have who holds that even though usually if a person would do the there's no way to be but when it comes to at that point it would be okay says what would be if and then it was brought back and now went ahead and he did the second would it be a problem would not be a problem. Once again what happened? This was the reverse case. In the first case did the we brought it back and now the did it. In the second case the did the we brought it back and now the went ahead and did it. So the co did it the first time did it the second time said to me the two sh was according to the we don't know who it was but according to the mand that said kosher in the first case where it was but then the k went ahead and he was mak and it was okay well in this case it's going to be pos and rashi says let's read rashi why is it in the first is because we look at the second one the end of the day you're right the first was done by the second one was done by a and what we care about is what happened second well here too you're going to look at what happened second and what happened second what happened second was the did it second first the did it then did it so the one who holds caution in the first case because we go basel over here it's going to be bustle because here the bas was the ble the po according to the one that said that it's going to be ple in the first case. Why is a puzzle in the first case? Cuz we go bust and the did it first. You can't unwind what the Zar did. Well, so if you can't unwind the one, you can't unwind the one. And once the did it at that point, it's going to be he said to me the two he said even according to the one that said in the first case, it's going to be in the second case as well. So again, the one that said in the first case held once the is no different than the other that once the does it at this point he knocks out the whole thing and there's no way to be mak it. Now if that's the case it sounds like you go buster the kamisa if you go bust the kamis when the co did it first and then it should be kacha because you're going bos the first one says ra even though it's true the po said that you go b the but here it's going to be possible you want to know why because at the end of the day at the end of the day once it was walked back now you have to do all over again and a puzzle is going to go ahead and do that. It's going to come out that again was done. The point is like this. The point is is that once you walk the dam back at that point it's meaning what would be the where the did it first and then it was brought back and did it should be kasha. You're going to say cuz what do you mean I did a kasha I walked these five feet from kasha so now I walked the basel okay so I walked away from kasha I walked the basel I go bust the kamisa so if I go bust the kam it should be okay it's not the way we look at it the way we look at it is is that once it gets walked back now it ths a new it's not said I'm doing the SAME TWICE NOW IT'S I GOT TO do all over again because when you walk it back it inevitably is going require now if a would walk it first and then you would walk it back. So that's going to be okay because he holds that at the end of the day it's it doesn't bother me that that that's what he did and even it would be a problem because you'll tell me that once you walk the soul say you walk the soul that automatically knocks it out but that's the sherle but the point is that once you take it back when you walk it's inable you got to get it right Right. The the question of the is can you unwind a bad or could you not unwind a bad yeah it's a nice sh when it comes to he can because it's sad that maybe when it comes to you can't that's a a very nice sh but that if you do a good or a bad and now you walk it back when you're going to walk it forward again YOU BETTER GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE that's of I already walked it good who cares You walked it good, but after you walked it back, you got to WALK IT GOOD AGAIN because now that the needs that in order to get closer to it's so says it's very nice he holds that the but now that it was walked back now you it's a new fresh right in THE WORDS OF THE NOW IT needs to arrive back at the and it has to arrive back at the it's going to have to be done by I'll tell you what I heard from because we learned innoc you give. So we had the you could have we had the being that it's you can have there was a third of the said quote if somebody did in a place where you had to do then if you were having in a place where you didn't have to walk the is not going to be said everybody is so again this is what said right It's a point if you had the in place where you needed to do the if not now. So is coming to qualify. He says there's no seem to say you could always have a says only if you're walking in a place but you have to walk. Everybody agrees that if did the far from the and then he walked it closer to the well that's a that you have to take everybody would agree would knock it out everybody would agree if you did the closer and then you started you want to reverse right start going you start working backwards would because again there's a big lumbus here is bringing it closer to the it's not walking doing laps holding the that's not what it is it's bringing it closer to the so walking backwards everybody would agree that you can't have what's the case is where the went to the then he went backwards and here's really the punch line right the punch line is missing from uh the gam it's really the next words and then he brought it back again and therefore if you ever have then it would be a problem it's not considered and it's for that reason it would not be a problem either way said this I'll tell you what I heard this of And once you take it away from the even if did the first time but now that you take it away from the you better get it right that is really stating that the says heard all this and said I have a big problem and this is from a that again discusses the but like all bry it's a little more explanatory than the Mishna and there's just one line here that's going to knock out this said in the event that the was doing and it was in a place where he needed to do so what's the case if he did the far and he walked towards the if he did the close to the and then he walked away from the MSB that is rez's example of a meaning what's the case of a the case is where he walked it backwards what do you see clearly from but let's say he would walk it backwards and then walk it forwards again the well then he looks at then it would be heal I feel the reles of the not only the you would assume hold it but even either way this is what he told right listen I'm not going to argue with and on that note really just to make a the shortest recap possible on today's do if you think about today's d you can really divide it into four quadrants right you can divide it into four quarters there were four parts of the d the first was It's talking about where you did the you're supposed to do it. You have to walk where you have to walk to to get it to instead of walking it instead of passing it you decided to hand it off. Right? That's basically what happened. And the question is that considered or is it not considered does it is it going to cause problems? Would that be an issue? Do you have to unwind it to the extent it's not okay? Right? And that said is the not right the second quadrant of the was assuming what's the is it just or is it a so now we just knocked out the entire carbon said in the name of which Thear understands means that it knocks it out stating that the had a and therefore from the it certainly sounds like as it relates to it's not possible said it was not that he was checkmated said that was the second the third theor revisited the from the and the suggested that maybe But very carefully that's not the same of that we're discussing. That's a question of where the kes are already by the mb and now he's going to move the blood go through the initial motion of the of the he's going to bring it closer to the is that considered a act during which he could have if it is the suggested it would be but he's not moving so it would be now it's where there is no of walking so it's not like you're doing it's not the but at the same time's understanding is some sort of and the question is would that be enough to pass and they put it out there that there was that that was that and that's what he means when he said you can't have initially because what's the but ultimately said because not in the was pretty clear in the mission could not have been more clear he that the reason is because it's possible not to do. That's not this because first of all this it's not possible to live it out and besides it's clear he's talking about a regular he's saying you could always do the what in the world does this have to do with hence and finally the last part of the d was if a would do if a would do does that now make the carbon possible or not usually if a does at least the dam that he did the the I'm saying a at least the dam that he's doing the with would become possible but maybe is different maybe is different and the truth is ple of and there was another one that said possible another part a subplot to this last part of the was there was an idea that what would be if a ken did a and then it was walked back would you need a cen to bring it back to that point or do we say there was a good that was already done with it so once a good was done with it so Maybe now even could go ahead and bring it. And it seems thought that I could hear it both ways said there's a new that it's very nice you did a good but once you unwind that now you got to do a new all over again that was in the end of the exhale. Either way, as it relates to raid, really the appropriate thing to do would be to speak out some raid related to but we're holding a little bit in the middle of the I think it's to go and do a part two related to to that is it's your that in parish and this is on says quote So it's in the context of the that's why it's in par it's talking about the and it's in the context of the carbon that the used to bring and the says as follows a little bit in the par of the says right where does it say so this is mentioned in parishes right This is literally where the introduces us to and including is also everything's happening in this one. It says says from the fact that the says we learn from here someone that is not what's the because it says and then afterwards it says so implying that the should be done by you ready is not and the reason is not let is because involves and begin and if he's going to get involved in he's going to be the place that his is rooted in which is a place of and it's for that reason the is not allowed to do wrote a safer called on If you know, you know some very sharp and on this right here in Par he's and he says that everybody knows and everyone knows the is making and that is and only afterwards and we learn from there is when there's a but to tell me that is now he says it's and he says it's something that's really what's how could you have a that seems to be so blatantly connected something that we know from now the truth is if you ask someone said it's kazal which kazals is he referring to so pett I don't know. It's but that it has to be there no such anywhere. There's no such gam but I saw that margles in his which is the hash equivalent thereof that he was to write on the kadesh say he brings after to bring out where exactly is it that this is and really I think it's to go through some of hisness it's actually interesting the first that he brings is a He says, "Take a look at the Ben in the beginning of so begins right the be brought to a and then there were that were brought as part of the so the says so the commanded says the should instruct the butcher, right? And then and says at first glance this is a little bit of a he'sing that the should command the and then the should it almost SOUNDS LIKE THE HIMSELF can't do the see he says that themes I think this maybe to where that should do. It almost sounds like the it's to somebody else. Again, it's not a but a little bit of a something that's maybe a little more gishm as it relates to this being. So I'm just going to mention seven fast from the first is the we spoke about at length in yesterday's because the says and immediately afterwards the same says was looking to do he Find the let him come to that was trying to find a to say he said why do you need a didn't say that a can't do he SAID you have to find a but not that it's so it's very very it would have been okay for to do the second is it's the got up and he Get up from your slumber because you have to you have to go you have to all the different animals that are needed for the said this is right but it's that says this in it's your job you have to get up and you have to do There's a by the way like right when you come to the table with a stack of it's all just that's all but it's in the name of the used to teach You want to know how they got paid? They used to get paid from the but what were they teaching the teaching? It sounds like for sure if they want to do they have a right to do the over there is discussing that the discusses and that is that we know the relationship that had with meat when they were in the midbar is different than the relationship that they would have with meat from the time they entered. what exactly that relationship was that it was to eat in the midbar said no were allowed to eat when they were in the midbar however when they were in the midbar they didn't have to do if they wanted to eat they wanted to just kill that that's if they wanted to eat meat in any way they were allowed to eat it so it's in that setting but they weren't allowed at all So the warned them that they should bring their carbon to the I have another this one's also classic. This is a medishim. It's going on the pic. So what does it mean that all these it's referring to it's referring to the are learning they're because they're holding on to their knives. We know that there were different that used to happen every single day in what was the second etc etc but who was lining up for the kayan it's the says all the used to come together and they would make a they would says that This is the last one we're going to mention and that is it's said it's shame. We didn't know this right says as follows. I was sarcastic. They brought this in front of the mel and in front of the cult and they DID and then the went ahead and they DID the bottom line in his there's a lot more as well that we counted seven where you see clearly that it was okay where says Why you making yourself with sugar to go? Get up. We have the they used to teach the they used to get paid from the we have the We have the said what does it mean that we have and we have so the truth is it's very very what's and is very very but there's one we spoke about a little bit in the last and it's brought down and he brings it in the name of his brother was and he had a a brother whose name was Mville who's a lot of the we know from we know because from we know because a lot but he talks about him how he was so much greater than him and he was the biggest you do it but either way in the end of days he says as follows this that says that it's also going to do. What it means is that not to do with big. You know why? Because if a is going to wear big like says in and so many other places. So therefore it comes out if the is going to wear the big dun at that point what's coming out what's coming out he's wearing big and if that's the case he would get malas and you can't do something that's going to get you into malus and that's what the z MEANS MEANS NOT THAT CAN'T do he can't do wearing the big undeclared it's going to be okay this Because if he's not wearing the big if he's not wearing his consider and that's why he's called. So when the says that it has to be what does it mean? It means that it that if the kan's going to go ahead and the going to be wearing the big dun it's going to be a brow. If he's not wearing the big that's when he's and if that's when he's gonna be okay this is what brings from his brother but I'll tell you I saw in his by the way brings this and he says take a look in the which is a pish on the uranium say mitzvah at the end of mitzvah. So is the mitzvah regarding and at the end of a very long regarding so he brings as we mentioned in the beginning is par because it's in the context of the of the and he says number 115. So the B say in a journal that somebody wanted to be of the by saying that when says this is what this said in this uh journal and the says that it's not and he says it's clear to me that this never saw the inside he never saw He didn't say he says because look at the says the reason that the not let do it the reason the co's not let do it is it's because he's going to be in the which is where his is rooted and you're getting involved in which is and therefore this is not something he's allowed to do at the very very end he has and then he says mash that at the end of the day it's a very nice that he wants to say that what does it mean it means that allowed to do it but he can't be wearing the and if that's what the reason is there's no way so says I am safer to perish on the By the way, who exactly is the Balt, right? He's more hectic than we realize maybe. So the name was Raash. He was from Minsk. He was rabbis on the and this is his that he asks. Now, this is really way above my pay grade, but I just didn't understand 100% what the is his timing that is, but he has to be right. He can't be wearing the big as long as he takes off the big day. Now, he's going to bear because he says very nice, but that's not what says. The says, Right? because he can't be again I don't know but I think for sure inside I also think that he would probably tell you that he's wearing the big so that's when he's in the but he's not wearing the big is like this again I'm saying it not to bring out this point because you know we've spoken over the years and Hashem this is coming up next week so we're going to have an opportunity to delve back into it a little bit but we've spoken many times over the years the famous that brings him where the rabb was sitting with one of his and his was a kayan right his was a kayen and asked him if he could please pour some water for him and there was another that was there how could he asked how could the ask to pour water it's enough if someone has any from a he's going to be mild and told him you're worried about me being with a kayen nowadays bisan shall was there. We spoke at once what found from his father right when he's wearing his bead he has one when he's not wearing his beam he has another but one thing you see from the and that is there's a mus that the whole of really is but if it's a big mimmun It's so posh to the while the is not wearing the big mean I don't know what all this means but the bottom line is there is an idea of not only with regards to the not only with regards to the man on some level there is an idea of his man should be named Either way, this is desire margis's like only he could in terms of all the different where it's like desire and the brilliant from that it could be all desire means is that when a does he has to be an he can't be wearing the big day kahuna because if he's wearing the big day kahuna then you're going to have the ram at the end of that a kay that wears big and you're gonna go into the right of the all the raid that we spoke about yesterday all that raid said is because of all that that can't wear the big because that wears the big is like that is all desire man. So you're bringing me a but you have to teach him the laws of even is going to get up. He's not wearing the big but the bottom line is all these the going to do it on the big underim it's okay and the reason is because when he's not wearing his beadim when he's not wearing his beadim then it could be on such a level even regards to this above our pay grade that the is really based on where and this is could be even different at that point. I am. This concludes part two is there'll be a part