Zevachim 112

Today's and we are at the Mishna about 10 lines from the bottom of the last today's being learned and that was brought in the Azor The coen that did the kabal, the second of the did so in one, meaning he had one in which he wasab all of the in the event that somebody would then go take from this dam and do a with it outside the and then afterwards bring the cliches back into the Azor and do a another or first there was a that was not in the Azor and afterwards there was a that was done outside of the Azor in both of those cases the person that did the is going to be and the reason is because in both cases the was done with that was and that is the core prerequisite criteria for one to be any time one can check off the box of in that situation if he does so he's going to be so the Mishna begins with there was a kabala that was done it was done in one the Mishna's first case was where there were two the first one was and the second was the second case is where there were two n the first one was and the second one was in both of those cases the done was and as a result the person is going to be now the first of the two cases is very very obvious very very intuitive someone does a says that the mission had No real reason to even mention this. The only reason the Mishna mentioned it is because of the second of the two cases. What's the second of the two cases? Where first there was an that was done and afterwards the was done. That's a little bit of aesh. The reason is because once you do the at that point you were which means the rest of the dam is which means that the or the was done was but only the being that even something that's only not that in and of itself would be enough to be we're going to see the is going to say That will be the very first discussion of the moving along to the second and slightly more complex case. What would be if the ken did the but not in one rather he did it in two. So he took a little bit of the dam in one a little bit of a dam in the second in the event that the k went and he did in a he did a reco with dam from both of these but both of them were going to be talk about kadaspa right this is the most intuitive of all cases in the event that the would take from both of the dams and put a he would be each one of these And as a result, each one of the are regular what would be if he did one or one. Now the order matters. So the first one was done and the second one was done is that he's going to be the reason is because once he does an at that point there's no need for the dam anymore. As a result that dam that's in the second is not love. If it's not love you're not good. Now didn't we say that the mission is going according to who holds that if it's royal that in of itself will be enough. It's a good kasha. If it was bothering you, you to the gum is going to differentiate between the from the from which you did the versus in another which of course is something that the already discussed in great detail earlier in the what would be if you did from each one of the twoes but you did it now in the reverse order. First there was that was done and then there was that was says right the first over here was done as a result that's a regular you can even get for a little bit of but the point is that even though you did a from this carbon so maybe that knocks out your ability to even get something actually discussed earlier in the par is that even But you're going to get for the one that you did. So the second part of the Mishna discusses again but in this case the wasn't done the was done with twoes. So this is a little nuance. We have to all the cases in the first case the said potter that's obvious. In the second case, that's also obvious. In both cases, you're going to be what would be if you did one and one. So, it depends on which one went first. The one that you did, you're because you did. the one that you did it's not even like we mentioned earlier you're also going to be if you did it in the order where first you did then you did then you're going to be for the and as it relates to the one that you did the for that you're even going to get I'll give you a mul to explain this latter case of the case where it Now we're learning right now. So this mush is not going to involve a it's a very different type of mush. As a matter of fact, this mul that the mission is about to present discusses a that's much harder than the usually the mush is here to make the a little bit more explanatory. I think we can give with the niml. The mush is the harder part of the mush actually discusses uh that's discussed primarily in this underpins a lot of the and that is the of the so we know this is this five times where the of will be that it's one of them is the classic example of a is where somebody was not carbon katas and he lost the carbon katas as a result he was not took that other he did the he did everything that you're supposed to do and then afterwards lo and behold that he was looking for all of a sudden the minute we didn't need him anymore he's here. So the is that that is a it maintains its kadusha you don't need it anymore because it was designated for a purpose that's no longer applicable. It was designated to give to it where the already got from another is now the is going to get into the bal in a more nuanced way. We just did a 20,000 foot view overview. the is going to get involved in that again will be the avoid of the very last but for now there's a concept where a person could have two that he was mafish for a specific ao that he did we are once you bring one the other one is the and the is going to use The of this as a marshall to the as of somebody was and then he lost it and then he was second and then lo and behold he found the first one and they're both standing in front of him. Now notice the case of the mission is a little bit different than the case that we mentioned the we gave the very high level overview where the first kas was lost. So you the second kas you did all the already with the second kas and then afterwards you went ahead and found the first one. So you never had a situation of the is going to drill down on this point. But the case of the Mishna is where you had you lost it. So you another one and then you found the first one. So right now is they're both standing in front of you. So what's the as it relates to in the event that a coin would go and he would shack both of these be there was no if both of them were brought is that you are going to be you're going to be for bringing both of them. In fact, for each one of them, you're going to be because each one of these is viewed as being what would be if you brought and again the order matters. So the first one was brought and then the second one was brought potter you're going to be potter. Why you going to be potter? The one that was brought you because you brought up and even the one that you brought you're going to be for because once you bring the first one now the second one is once it's which means it's not if it's not so it's missing the key criteria in order to be you're going to be bothered. What would it be if you brought both of them but one of them the first one was brought and the second one was brought you for the one that was brought. Why? because it was love is and the second one that you brought. You actually gonna get for the point is that the as it relates to mirrors the where it's as it relates to the laws of right look at the parallel in the event that both of them were brought what was you're going to be what's with where you lost one and then you were mafish another one and then you found the first one and they're both standing in front of you. If it was you're going to be part for both of them. What was the case where you and you brought both of them you're going to be for both. What's if you went ahead and you did both of these you're going to be for both. What was that? And you brought the first one and the second one. You're going to be the first one. You did aim. The second one because it wasn't royal love. We said it's not even what's with these two where you bring the first one and the second one. The one that you brought, you're part obviously because you brought a bim. And the one that you brought, you're going to be part because it's not royal. Now it's when you brought the first one and you brought the second one. We said for the first one cuz it was by these two. If you bring the first one and the second one, you're going to be for the one that you brought because it was really love and the second one already you can get for it's no you didn't get the first one you brought. Either way, the four mirror each other. It's the same exact and that's why the Mishna says now is going to go into this a little bit more. So we'll hopefully understand it a drop better before we say but the is going to ask a a very high level question that why we even saying this it's but so what usually if there's a mush it's here to explain the nim a little bit better meaning it sounds like there's some that you're supposed to get in the because of this mush that you wouldn't have gotten had we not presented this mushel that is going to be the one So this is talking about where you have these two in front of you now and you went ahead and you did a with one of them. Now Rashi adds that the case is actually we're not only but you actually did a ready on both and I have the dam sitting in a from one of the sitting in the from the other one of the if you go ahead and you do this on one we know that is going to p it right which means it removes this right that's one of the things that does so just like this is going to p its boser right the bos that came from the town from what you did as we go. So too, it's going to make the baser of the other also not subject to now doesn't mean you're going to be allowed to eat it. But what it means is that you're not going to have the iso and the reason for it is not that we say the carbon has an ability to somehow be on that carbon. The reason is more of a backhanded reason and that is because once you do the of one now the other one becomes a and one of the is not subject to the laws of so for that reason when I do the with the of a it's going to iter why is it going to p it because always pers the boss it makes the boss even but you should know FYI it's also going to p the baser from the other not on the same level where you're going to be allowed to eat it and certainly not for the same reason. It's because it's going to make the other it's not subject to the laws of either way jumping right into the soar is going to start with the first part of the easier part of the Mishna where you okay if you did the first and then if you did the first and the second you're going to be as well. So going to speak out what we already spoke out first and the second was I understand why because the and by the way those words was the meaning the explains very well the first case of the but the case where first you brought it down and only afterwards he brought it down. In other words the It's true that's considered says yeah and as a result that is the reason now the is going to ask another that we spoke out when we went through the take a look at the people of in the event that the If he did two both of them, you're going to be part this is the case we need. If he did one and then he did one, you're going to be part but you even if the second one was done what's the second one should be said. So if you're telling me good that explains the ratio but how do you understand the is going in accordance with the who holds so sends us to a big in the event that the was done in two kis or multiple kis like the case of our and according to the from one of the what happens now to the D in the other the holds that is not it's what's the difference you pour on the you pour on the that you would pour into the that went into according to no it's right what's the nuance the nuance is is only left over from the from where I did or all the leftover dam that was from this animal according to the tan is only when it's from the otherwise it's just regular dam according to no any leftover dam is going to be the bottom line is the is going according to who holds that for you're going to stating that is only when it's once it's not and it's for that reason says the that although any leftovers would It's not. In fact, Rashi adds that the Tana that is the Tana that is with in that over there must be must be meaning that it's like an anonymous tan the way Rashi was gaming one that we could put a name to the face. You want to know who that was? By the way, you should know it's how do you know it's because our Mishna we know is and our you clearly see that is not but rather it's either way going back to the last part of the Mishna last part of the paric. So the mission gave us the Then and then said to a similar situation where somebody was he lost it. Say he was another one. Then he found the first one. They're both standing in front of us. And then he goes ahead. He starts doing is all over the place and the two are very aligned, right? They mirror each other. But the asks the obvious kasha also a kasha that we spoke at when we went through the mish. We spoke at all these kashas. Why in the world do I need this? I'm going to tell you why. There's a that's learned from the and this is interesting because the is going to present now is not aes but rather it's a in the case of so this is a situation where it sounded like was going to add a little bit of and we weren't sure when we learned the what that could be. Well, guess what? There really is no that we're going to get in the it's really the other way around that by the mishmash telling to these two things, we're going to learn something about the laws of of that had the Mishna not to I would not have necessarily known and the explains what's Number one, the time of the Mishna. This is almost like a hak to what the Gmorra wants to say. The time of the Mishna has to be ready holds me that in the event that it was as opposed to mesa is that it's going to be messes. So let's take a step backwards. We gave a little bit of an introduction to the before we saw the how did we present a case. So we gave the extreme case. The case is where somebody had a caratas. He was maf and then he lost it. So he went he was another he went through the entire thing and then lo and behold all of a sudden the other arrived it's going to be what would be if the case was a little bit less dramatic. What would be if the case was where somebody was and and then he lost it. So he was mish and before he did the and the other came and and he has the two of them in front of him right now according to the that's not it's not according to according to that too is considered what does that mean in the event that you're going to go now and you're going to bring one of them. So you're going to get from the one that you brought which will render the other one into as opposed to the even when you bring the one and you now get from the one that you brought the other one's not going to be meaning that's you can't have you have to get the first for it to be but there's a criteria of how you get to according to the you need that was If you found it before that it's that even when you get from one the other one's not going to be whereas according to as long as it was even though you found it and at some point it was but once you go ahead and you do the with one the other one's already going to be a is going to be so the says the here is how do you know that the mission is because if the mission wasn't it's not a sug which involves the law only works if we're going according to so this of is obvious right even without the without the of the could have made this observation the could have said you want to know right because it's if you hold that the only time you is if it's well in the case of the it was not it was only so okay and this is what the of the was the only reason that the is that you're going to be putter in the event that you brought the first one be nim And the second one for the second one is because of the fact that meaning it was lost and then you found it. Obeit. But what would be if somebody went and he was not he was not what does that mean? He said that you know I know that I may lose my animal. So I want to have a backup. So like this in case something happens to the animal, I'll always be able to tap into the other one. Well then the is that if you would go ahead and bring one and then the other one you would be for the one that you brought and the reason is because if somebody goes ahead and he's so then the is that after you get from the first the second one is not but rather it's treated like an and being that it's treated like an somebody brings you because that's something that was now the truth is the truth is when we say that the other one is an oil and that is a just overnight become an oil. So the answer is that what they would do with that is they would give it to the past right they would give it to the to the shepherd and he would leave it in the field wait until it got once it got they would be poed and they would take the money and they would buy an that went on his back right that's what they used to do okay so when we say it's an it's a you can't bring it this second as a carbon but there's some of over here and that would be enough you to be so for that we need to jump through one more hoop. The basis to that is that give it over to the wait until if somebody would go ahead and he didn't do that without any of he did it stop. So what's now if that's true by it's probably true for as well which means that if someone is if a person would go ahead and the other one so what's that would be oh if it could be an so that means it's and if that's the case if you go ahead and you would do it at the very least you would Either way, a little bit hard, right? But what does the gumar say? The garra says, "I'm going to tell you why we mention the because in the there's a big over here in the of not of where you were, but in the how so because the Mishna went through all the cases where you have these two in front of you. You both of them both of them. Let's zero in on the In the case when you went ahead and you shacked it. So you were partnered on both you for the because you did and you not because it's right now who that's enough for it to be. But you know what the Mishna wants you to know? The Mishna wants you to know that the only reason you for the second one and the only reason the second one is is because at the very least when you were mafish the first one you were mafish one then it got lost you the second a minute later you found them the seder but there was a point where there was a of only one there the second one after you do the of the first is going to be which is not really hence you're going to be part if you go ahead and you bring but in a case when you would behavior is that the second one if you brought you would be if you're both right because you brought you're going to be why you going to be because that's not that is how so because it's because the is give it over to the shepherd. Wait until it gets to use the money for and that's enough of a reason. It's enough of a that this animal has that we say that if you because he said what did he say now? He wasn't talking about foots. He said the well is that is also and if that's the case it's so that's enough for it to be considered it's for that reason that if I go ahead now and I do it you would be so you want to know why we mention this whole it's that the only time putter on the one that you did is where you were one lost it the second one and then you failed it. If however you them both then you're going to be for the second one. Now, okay, this is a very interesting, right? But the right there's one more piece we need for of the was not why you telling me this that wasn't the you want to tell me related to tell me related to could be another right what's the big deal the is the we're comparing these two things Which makes it sound then like if the at the end of the day of the is that if you both then the way I know that is from the toes. So where do I see that in the so the answer to that is is because what the Mishna is saying is is that the four of right they mirror these what was the case of where it came to the where I did one at that point the dam of the other is right we said it's the of who We put a name to the face from the he holds that it's actually dam that's dam that you can't do nothing with and therefore the is that if you go ahead and you bring it's not you're going to be it's only where if I was I'm going to be on the one THAT'S WHERE I CAN'T do nothing with it right I know that's grammatically incorrect where there's nothing to do with it that's the case that you're going to be if however there was something I could do with it of well then that would be enough being that we're stelling to the two cases. What we're saying is the the only time you're going to have the mirrored is where IT CONFORMS 100% WITH the case of and in the third case there's something nuance where I could have tripped up in my head. I could have made a mistake when I was learning cuz I could have thought that if you being that the second one is or maybe being that I can only bring one and not the other and that one you know I have to wait until I get so maybe you if you brought the only time you for the second one is when it's like the that's in it's the dam that's in the second the dam that's in the second is no there's nothing I can do with it never ever ever there's nobody ever think it's Greek I'll ever be able to do with There's no kit. There's none of all the tricks we have in don't work over here, right? There's no to make it work. That's the only case that you're going to be put when it comes to the but the bottom line is the was important to teach which is obviously the learning and it's something that I know because of the to but again the is the is in this other case of but just fears with one and that is says me dummy we thought we were says me dummy you're telling me that just like said so too if someone was and he would go ahead and he would check one of them the second one it would be and if it be love and therefore if you do based on right you could have thought you should be or whatever that's everything says not Because in the case of the so it makes a lot of sense. I mean, but you could say upon him that if you would go ahead and you would it would be as always. And if that's the case, how is it possible that if you go ahead and it's going to be as now you want to tell me wait until fine, that's not a problem. But how could this animal ever be an it's fundamentally distance and no from being an so the being anah I hear the is it's an how to become anah is such a in the world of but in the you have a different problem the problem is one is the other one's there is a that was bought Right. The NSI used to bring fame. So that's a it's a that was not that's where you had the you had the not the you had the right who went ahead and he was two and one of them was and then he shed the other one. It's the same. It's the same exact but the point is the case has to be talking about a very nuance. So if we thought the was hard first not just any mafish and that he's being on that note. Okay. So the rest of the DAFF, which is almost a full DAFF, is a little bit of an anomaly because all it is is a Mishna. So uh obviously like all Mishna, the is going to do what it does and it's going to drill down on several components of this Mishna. So we're going to go through the Mishna in a brisk fashion and then as we go through the gumaras here in the last week of we'll get into some of the zishna classic the went and he burnt the paradum which is what you're supposed to do but he did it he did it away from the place that you're supposed to do it. This is an interesting type of because we know of the parad wasn't done in the mikto. It was done on har but it sounds like there was a place that you were supposed to do it and you did it in the wrong place or right where the coin went is the person that did this is going to be from the right the only time we know this we better is if it was that was but the was and the was and as a result they're not really if they're not really love animal that was it was it was set aside someone actually worshiped it or it's something that was swapped for a dog or is given as a gift right was born cesarian If somebody took any one of these animals any was going to be now what would you say? Someone asked you this question. You would say we just quoted the a second ago. We quoted it 100 times in what the Mishna says because it says it's the next words in the obvious question we'll wait for the is that why do I need a separate this is a classic before we go v before we start the next part of the Mishna We just need to be familiar with one nuance in the sug and that is if somebody goes and he does a right all the different types of that are included in this. So we know it's okay which means that there's also a somewhere in the truth is if you go through the carefully there's an as well which means if somebody does he's over an ofus where are all these is mentioned in par the heaven You have a carbon. What you're supposed to do with the carbon is you're not supposed to go ahead and bring it outside of the you bring it to the that's what you're supposed to do. So if somebody brings a carbon he was there's also it's we know the word always so what don't go bring your in any place that you choose to to bring them. So you have the concept of as well. And of course the over several times just read one of right over several times the concept of cars as well. So there's an there's a and there's a car. We're going to see now in the next part of the Mishna has a that is that there are times that a person could be and maybe the as well of but not get the we can make a when it comes to the of when do we say that so that's the next part of this long Mishna doesn't matter if the mum if the is going to pass but right now somebody took an animal that has a and he was not is going to be says I agree with you when it comes to a but this is a transient and at some point it was going to pass meaning right now this animal is not really but the is so there will be a time where it's going to Even though you're not but that we mentioned that you're going to get so we know that an had to come in the form either of or now the were had to be of a certain advanced age and the had to be young. How do you know that right? So what would be if somebody brought an animal again it was a so it wasn't animal it was really a knife but it was it wasn't old enough it was too young that was that was already too old because it's not really love I agree with but if the was too young the a third case a fourth case. So what's so this is actually and the reason is because it's not related to this is the mother and its child on the same day. It's considered cruel and unusual. It's considered a is not something you're allowed to do. What's is a carbon has to be of a certain age will talk a little bit more about it in order for it to be a carbon. So if you have situation or in both of those cases if you would go ahead and you would check you're going to be and the reason is because it's not reasons for reasons but the bottom line is it's not going to be says you're going to be so if you do the four times where just told us that even though you're not but the you're going to get there's no because it's not really love but you're going to get these turtle doves that are not old enough. It's not but you're going to be over the a situation where you shacked the mother today. I can't check the child. I have to wait till tomorrow or it's not 8 days old or whatever, right? It's not old enough yet. All of these cases says you're going to be part from the I know that it's not but say you're going to get what's the reason this is going back on all the cases says if there's going to be a time where it's going to be then you have say there's no say the two are tied by the hip you can't uh bifurcate the two all of these cases are cas where right now it's not but it will be love is going to pass you're going to reach a certain age wait until tomorrow wait a couple days whatever the point is these are all situations where the issue is going to pass is also now when we talk about so what's the classic case man it's not 8 days old right that would be your classic case but no it's not the only It doesn't matter if the man is or right now. What's the case? We know it's not old enough yet. But what is the mission says these are all that at some point are going to bring carbonas, right? And they will ma mafish their carbonos when they were still to so that the time is not right yet for them to be able to bring their carbon. In the event that somebody would go ahead and bring that they would be and the reason is because this was for something and the time is not right yet to go ahead and bring that something and as a result it's not going to be what say the carbon that they was right so there was even though they're still then not ready yet to go ahead and bring that carbon In that case, you're going to be and the reason is because so therefore you can't say that it's not has to be brought for has to be brought for that specific as a result if they're not ready over there. You bring you're going to be another. So what do these things have in common? These are things that you weren't supposed to put on the the buster of a you eat the ber of an you eat the ber of you eat the ber of you eat right the only ber that you don't need is the so somebody would go ahead and we may all these busters or you would take the leftovers of the all things that were never put on the additionally if somebody would pour oil on a he would chop up he would dice He would do that. Or he would miss the he would salt the carbon. He would do he would do any of these. You're going to be potter. Not just that. There's also not going to be an isuz for these things. So if would do any of the affformentioned avoid right starting from etc etc he would do it in the itself he wouldn't be for doing the or would do it in a state of he wouldn't be for what he did if would do it without wearing he wouldn't be additionally if he didn't wash his hands or his feet by the gear he wouldn't be for that either now Again, we said you're not going to be doesn't mean it's but the special that the states regarding all these don't apply to those. So, we mentioned these last things just we're learning the still right notice it went right into the 14th but the laws of apply to more that are stated in the but it's not to all. For example, not there's a list that list you should know is a unique list in the world of and it applies itself to other don't relate to all the that are mentioned in that list. That list is a unique list. Why? That's something we're going to see in the moving along to the next and last part of the Mishna. This last part of the Mishna is classic Ben classic and we know a lot of it before the Mishk was built one was allowed to bring a carbon on you can have your own personal was done by was built became and was done by the when there was a so had to be eaten within the curtains right the proverbial Israel was able to be eaten anywhere Gilgal. when the enter. So the first stop they made was in Gilgal right they were in Gilgal for 14 years during the so when they were in Gilgal the Mishk was there at that point there was a basis was able to be eaten inside the you will eat anywhere in so there was no limitation you were able to eat it anywhere when the Mishkan went from Gilgal to its next step next stop which was Shilo. So over there then the bombs became now you should know in Shilo there was a structure there was a Mishkan but there was no roof on top there was no there was a a structure that was made of stone and there were curtains on top and this is the that the refers to. So what does the saying the says the context of that is in par and what the is saying is that right now if you want to bring a carbon anywhere you want that's okay and the reason is because you haven't arrived yet to the implying that when you come to the you're not going to just be able to bring a carbon wherever you want what's is That place that's known as they were able to and able to anyway that you were able to see the you were able to eat. What was the next step of or again the next stop of the Mishkan? It went to given always get put together even though given were two places. The gar is going to talk about that. But when they came to the became had to be eaten in the able to eat what was the next step or stop over there were awesome and after there was never going to be a again. Right. This is the kitchen. And that's the that is referring to when it says had to be eaten inside the had to be eaten within the walls of another any that somebody was mish at the time that there was an is and he was also at the time that there was an issue that whether there was a shasabus or shasabus fluctuated, right? Mishkan, there was a hat. Then they made the Mishkan, there was an isabus. Then they went to Gilgo, there was a hat. And then they went to Shilo and there was an iss. And then there was no afterwards. Unless maybe all that rate, but the bottom line is the bottom line is is that you see there were times yes, there were times no. So the question is what would be if someone was mish during one and now he's being during another does the change that's this next part of the you were okay so that's bad bad checks both boxes right it's for the cycle all three of those things that we mentioned earlier are going to apply What would be if he was now he was at a time that you're not let about the other way around where he was but he was then he's There's not going to be a again we'll go into this in the if you don't want to wait the following are examples of that had to be brought in the mishk. Okay. Any that the person was mish with the express intent that he's going to bring into the mishka had to be brought in the mishka. What does this mean? So we're talking about where there was a but there was also a mishk when was that? So it's not when the yidden were in the midvar that was it's not when the were in that was it's when the yidden were in gilgo and so those with kuf where this is interesting right you could bring a carbon in the mishkun and you could bring a carbon in your backyard sounds like they're both options. So here's the question the question is is there like rules and regulations or I could just do whatever I want. an oil maybe I'll bring it here maybe I'll bring it there carbon pes like how does this work in terms of when the carbon had to be brought here when there maybe there is no like how does that play itself out so really this first line sort of is is the header the craven this is almost the rule that was hooked to be the mishkan that's has to be a mishk and the mishk examples craven the mishkan automatically hooked and as a result I crave you weren't necessarily to bring on the Mishkan therefore if you want to bring on Obama that's going to be okay stating that if you specifically were to bring in the Mishkan then if you did meaning it's not going to be right there's not going to be so see even when you were supposed to bring it in the Mishkan you didn't into the mishk that's really something you're not going to so we see that there was a concept of there was a concept also of what's so if you look at the last of the gil the of is referred to in the mishk not even as a misb it's referred to in the mishna as a as a bum albeit a bum as right being that there's a shas I don't even see it up so much as a as a misbeh We use this lion of usually right like sometimes we feel like is a bad thing is actually referred to in the as as being so and specifically regards to all that says the right off the bat I'll give you a few on the there was a mitzvah to had to be softened the soften part of Gilgal. So you had to do matas on different parts of the so these are all true for the true the interrupts the program for a second there was no don't tell me there was no when it came to the there's no period that's a much bigger back to the list right kahuna on the not on the spoken a lot about the fact that additionally you don't have the right there's no you had that on the lion and additionally you didn't have to wash your hands and feet by the k or any type of lion when it came to bringing a carbon But as relig of those bummers are going to have those. So the laws of all these different things were unique. The Mish just gave us a whole bunch of that it didn't have. There's no there's no there's no there's no there's no you don't even have a at all. You don't need a you don't need big no there's no what do you have I mean you have this basic you did have a lot of things you don't have but a lot of things you do have as a matter of fact some of the you have right you have the pigle you have you have those are things that are baz those are things that you do have now as it relates to raid we are going to attach the rabbite that we had the to learn together in that relates to Mishkan. It's very very much a rabbite on this Mishna right here. It wasn't attached to any of the previous doin. So we're attaching it now for the very very first time. Either way, it's really an introduction to the concept of balm and understanding the difference between different kufo of Mishkan. We mention midbar, we mention Gilgo, we mention Shilo, we mention, we mention Gib. It's very it's also very historical. That is a rabbi that attaches itself to this Mishna. That's also a little bit of a a little bit of an introduction to the entire period begins in the year 369. from when the Mishkan had been in Shilo. The Pik says that there had been some friction between the Yidden and the time came where they were going to have to battle it out, wage some sort of war. So they didn't go out to preemptively fight the Evo and they camped by Evano. That's a place and the were camped in. And the started making moves towards the spread and right at the onset the yidden suffered casualties. Approximately 4,000 yidden died. And the yidden after they suffered this small defeat they retreated back to their camp and the elders all the amongst the said why would have done this to us today that we had this fall by the I think the only hope the only thing we can do is we have to go nuclear We have to go to the Mishkan. We have to take out the We have to bring it with us now to the next phase of this battle because I think it's the only way we're going to be successful. So the arm they sent for and incredibly they took the and they brought it with them into warn and obviously you have to escort the so it was the two sons of the at the time they brought they were when the came into the camp where the yidden was stationed where all the fighters were. So all the yidden they pulled out their this is very old school and there was an incredible noise and a big that was taking place and the noise was so loud that it went to the camp of the what is this very very loud noise and then they were made aware that the reason all these truis and all these kios are taking place is because The just arrived in the Mah and this is to acknowledge the fact that the is there and when the realized that the is now going to be part of this next phase of the war they got very very scared they said God himself is right now together with the Jews they said we've been fighting with them but to exercise the nuclear option that's not something that had ever happened and they realize that they're in big trouble. They continued. They saidimbar. We know a little bit of history. We know what did to the Egyptians. We know about the we know about Yamsu. This is going to be very very hard. So the push them, they get together in their war room and they say his we have to be strong and we have to be real men. we have to be ready for a fight and the go and they say that we're going to have to take on the Jews now even with the on the side of the Jews and the says something mindboggling the push them fought and they were successful in defeating the yidden it got so bad that the had to run and retreat back to their tents it wasn't just a it was aid And you know how many Jews died? 30,000 Jews. But it was even worse than that. The was taken into captivity. And two sons that were together with the also died. There was one person who was from Shvy. He was one of the fighters and he ran he ran back to Shilo to report what had just happened say that that person would later become this is a young he goes and he runs away from the maril and he came to he arrived there on that day his clothing were torn and he put earth on top of his head he came he and a was sitting he's the he's the leader of the Jews on his throne. He was right next to and the reason he was sitting there was because he was so nervous. We took the out of the I hope it's safe. I hope everything is okay. Who knows what might be going on. Skipping a little bit at that time. He was already 98 years old. It wasn't easy for him to see. So a young comes in front of a and he says I just came from the battlefield I literally ran away today said my son sit down talk to me what's going on I'm waiting with baited breath I need the report told him said the were forced to retreat for and you have no idea how many Jews were killed thousands and thousands and thousands of Jews and even your two sons they also were killed and it's even worse than that the we've had that's been so sacred from the times of Rabenu it was taken into captivity the says as soon as a heard that the was taken into captivity tens of thousands of Jews were killed his two sons were killed but that the was taken into captivity He fell off his chair backwards. He was right next to the gate. His neck broke. He was old. He was frail. He had ruled the Jews for 40 years. And this pretty much is the narrative that the Nvi tells us about the destruction of Shilo. So for 369 years we had a Mishkan and Shiloy. Shiloy was the focal point of Clasro for that period of time initro. But it was as a result of this war that took the lives of tens of thousands of Jews that took the lives of the two sons of Alien that took the Kim into captivity that ultimately took the life of Alien himself. It was all as a result of this episode right here. I think in order to appreciate a little bit better what she was, we have to appreciate a little bit better what Sheiloy was. And for that, we need to take a a step back and roll up our zahim sleeves just a little bit. So we know that there were times throughout Jewish history where there was a shazm where yid was allowed to bring a carbon if he wanted on a bulma. When did become forbidden? The Mishna says when the Mishkan came to Sheila, at that point Aid was no longer allowed to bring a carbon on Obama. It's very interesting. When the Mishkan was in Gilgal, you allowed to bring carbonas on Obama. When the Mishkan was in Novine, you were allowed to bring carbonas on Obama. But B was Shilo. for the 369 years that the Mishka was in Sheil during that time that's through you were not allowed to bring a carbon on Obama and the question is that when the Mishk was in Shilo during that period of time you were not allowed to bring a carbon on Obama but when it was in you are and if that's the case why is it that when it was it was nest. The truth is you find another very very fundamental difference between the kufa that the Mishka was in Shilo versus when the Mishkan was in Gilgal not even the Ramban in his in a few places mentioned this fleetingly yesterday discusses whether there was a mitzvah when there was a mishk and the Ramban says that the is not and the truth is It's the says what does the mean when it says turn and he said I heard people that were saying when is this old man going to die already so that his son can now take over the throne and he's going to build the and the will be able to be so turns like he says you know I'm overhearing conversations a little birdie told me that the was waiting for me to die why because they weren't ready to be able to be and says you think I was disappointed you think I had time I was happy because I'm the should have a place to be and that said is meant what he said. that when I heard the yidden say I was even though I knew on a personal level that didn't bode well for me but should have a place where they should be able to be it's that before there was a bashem before there was a bik there was no mitzvah of a mart to the ram the problem is that we know begins with elon and Kana and Panina and A and ultimately where they would always go to the Biktosh ostensibly to be and the truth is the Gamar in the first parag discusses the sug from that parish in the beginning of seash and it's very very mashma then that what elo and kano and panin Ina and a and were doing was being the mitzvah of aliel. If that's the case, it sounds like there was a mitzvah of ali. So was there a mitzvah of aliel by the mishkan or was there no mitzvah of aliel by the mishk? I think what you would have to say is that there was anina between the Mishkan in the beginning of Seeshm versus the Mishkan in the times of when he said what's the difference the Mishkan in the beginning of was in everybody knows that where was the Mishk in the times of that's the last 56 years before built it was in Gibb respectively When the Mishk was in Shilo, there was a mitzvah to be when the Mishk was inv there was no mitzvah to be. And if that's the case, there's another fundamental difference between the of the Mishkine and presumably Gilgal as well. And if that's the case, again, what's the difference? It's all the Mishkan. It's the same kalin. In what way was derelik? Number one with regards to the is that was mishk at that point there was and number two with regards to the mitzvah of so I saw from the is he says based on from the brriskarov and this is in kadushi it's a briskarov in safer also in paris where the Biskarov said. Now we spoke yesterday at length about the kilik between Mishkan and Mikdash specifically the idea that you find more than 20 times invar who says that when you're going to enter the land when you're going to come to Israel I'm going to choose a place and that's the place that should be holy and within that place I'm going to choose another place and that's going to be the holiest place within the the chosen place and of course the and within the the chosen place is the it's and so many we're learning now that's where it all plays itself at it plays itself at in it plays itself out but said that there are four places in the where it's that just like was also a moash not just but she as well the says one says that when you're going to enter I'm going to choose a land and that land is going to be so is it going to be that chosen city or is it going to be says the chosen city the chosen city in another the says we mentioned it says it over 20 times. So if it says it already have to say the first one's the second one is regarding the carbon the says going to be it's going to be in it's going to be on the the right says this it says what place is that one more regarding the mitzvah we learn from here that the had to be put in where you supposed to bring the doesn't say right it says the so it says he's supposed to bring it to the said the brisk four places in where the saf says that shiloy wasn't just a place where p the mishkan was but rather shiloy was What's going on over here? This just took the whole It just threw the whole thing upside down. We made such a big deal. We were so excited that the was the iss that was a temporary thing. Well, it turns out now that the Mishkan was also the How do you understand that? It's posh. The says that's in the context of one of the talk about the parish brings it and were both but there's one fundamental difference is what's the difference between and manukha is a place that you take a rest the connotation is it's somewhat temporary it's a reprieve taking a little bit of a break is something that goes that's something that's for that was the and is the you know what the difference is a temporary moashka as opposed to was the permanent Moash what's the the is we said what's the difference between the mukar versus the mishk so we spoke it from the that says in more than one place that the is that mishk was our house where says make me a guest room and I'll come and I'll visit there'll be a gather of mik was says build me a house and then you can come to me and you can be my guest it's a fundamental difference a person that wants a house. Lav Davka, the first house that he's going to move into or the first house he's going to buy is going to be his permanent house. There something called a starter house, right? So you have a house, you have a small family that Hashem and then you grow into a bigger house. Had a starter house and then eventually a permanent house. Shil was a mamash, but it was a smaller a more temporary a starter house so to speak. What the refers to as opposed to the was the temporary house. That's something that would be the house of forever. When the yidden were in there were a lot of din but the Mishna says as soon as the yidden left at that point at that point there's no when it comes to that's already what's the difference because this is the temporary house that's the permanent house the temporary house doesn't have any everlasting kaduca necessarily it's the permanent house. That's what the everlasting kadusha is and said that it's like this in a med who ever knew him obviously we in the here my father my brother we had the to really know he was a bucking nish the lion of mashim used to roll off his tongue I remember eating a sudy once and he was saying over medish word for word balp and then he he ran to this farm shop cuz he had to get it like 100% I'm perfect. He would read it word for word. There's a a par the says that had two daughters. Leo was the older daughter and was the younger daughter. Says the med. What does it mean? What it means is that Leia got gifts from aeshb and her gifts were big gifts. got gifts from but her gifts were small gifts. What were the big gifts that Leia got the kahuna comes from lei is Leia's third sonus comes from Yehuda Yehuda is Leia's fourth son and is Yehuda and the med says that being that these gifts were gifts that were because and David That's and so her gifts because also got gifts. She got the same exact gifts, but her gifts were the same gift, but she got it for a temporary period of time. Was a meal but for a short period of time who came from was also a mel but a mel for a short period of time. The and was a place but it was only a place. So said with the whole it's in this that there's no between it's the same thing the only in how long you're going to have it for is but of what is and if the soil is and if is an of it's the bias of well that means Sheila is also the bias of the only is that one is and the other one is incidentally and this the doesn't say but the two mash right we know there are two this mash and this mash is a you know is going to be killed in battle But it's that's the that's what's going on over here that is like it's a is that is only as opposed to that's already said when you understand this that already gave us then the you find between and Gilgo Mishk Mishk it won't make sense because if you look in the sukim of the safe when the talks about the is it says you're going to come toan and it says don't go ahead and start bringing carbonus wherever you want but rather you have to go to the sham and you have to do the mik the is of the is related to the mach when the mishk was in yog there was no machar so there was Nois when the Mishka was in there was no mashkar. So there was no Isra. But when the Mishka was in there was a mashkar albeit a temporary at the time that it was there it was a bonafide and being that it was a mashkar. It's for that reason it's for that reason there was a it's for that reason that there was a an isabus as it relates to the The mitzvah is totally in what it's in. And being that was also it's for that reason it's said in too despite the fact that it was a mishk there was a in fact said if you look at when says that there was no says the quote It's in the it's not everybody learns this. because the already told us that was also a and that's why despite the fact that didn't have a when it came to yes and that's why there's so many as it relates to ali that we have and that we learned from the para we learn from the para of kana but the point is we're in today sheily was a place that once upon a time called home. It's not just a a place where once upon a time the Mishkan was punked where once upon a time came to be our guest but we're in a city we're in a place that once upon a time called home and the truth is if you think about it it's an unbelievable thing because to go to the today the Ram says Maybe the rabbi says, "But to go to the and to stand in the place where once upon a time there was a and there was an and it was it was we can't do that. Not only don't we have a base in Amikdash today. We can't even go. We can't even go to the amikdash. But to go to the place that called home for 369 years, as crazy as it sounds, is something we're allowed to do today. And really the first parag maintained its kadusha on the level of is not let it go etc etc. But when it comes to Shilo for 369 years, this was the starter house so to speak about. But now if someone's even tummy and he wants to go there, it's something that you're allowed to do. And the truth is with modern technology and different archaeological excavations and advances. We know today with pretty solid accuracy, we'll leave that for later, but we know today with pretty solid accuracy, we're exactly the Mishkan was. And maybe where the ar was and maybe where a was sitting and maybe where said her when the says of she didn't have children and she was soar and then finally her was answered we know where exactly that took place and we can go there it's it's a fascinating but I just want to end with one thing and that is the mab this is in basim The says that at the time when Yidden were allowed to bring carbon on that place that Obama was brought, they had and that carbon were brought it became a very interesting. So if once upon a time there was a bummer in a certain place, they would keep that place intact. They would keep it intact and it turned into a and that place would remain with and they would go ahead and they would build a and even when the was built says at that point were a very dangerous thing because he can't bring us over there anymore would always go back to the place of and they would dive in there because they felt that. So what better place to go and play out than in a place that you know for a fact once upon a time there were and once upon a time there were and it was considered a very very sacred place this and he says he thinks that's why the when they were trying to eradicate every of they never eradicated the mob even though it was a it's because it was a m of kadush and it was a m of and they didn't want to g the A place that carbon once brought would remain a place of of it was more manifest than a place says the if this was true for a can you imagine how true it is for a place that for 369 years who called home there's no question in the world that it's a maile where if there's one thing everybody knows about it's about it's about the of and was answered. She wasn't just answered. She wanted a son that she was to have a son that's literally we're going to go right now to the of where once upon a time was it's this is a a place of it's a place where a person can be p tremendous things and we should be we should be that we're going to visit now the starter house of to be able In the very near future, go to the bas of