Zevachim 11

Today's is and we have four lines from the bottom of the two dots. Today's being learned as a for today's also being learned as a and ben. So today's daff is a little bit of a continuation of the previous which discussed the of the began said and what emerged from the maso of is that the titus rebelzar who adds asham to the exclusion list of where is a hish. The says and said and just like the based on that we had earlier in the we know that a would make the carbon possible so too an ashma would be possible as well. So the Gmorra today is going to continue discussing the rebel and it's going to begin with aan which means quoting aishna somewhere else where is this somewhere else it's later in the so just a tiny introduction one of the pulim that you find in the world of carbon is niknas now is the lesser known of the two that involve taking a of the carbon outside of its the better known of those two is the so for example if the dam of a carbon would leave the azara it would go to the it would become why because it left its the dam is supposed to be spritzed on the mbe which is in the azor that's where it belongs nowhere else if it leaves that place it would become possible. The reverse counterintuitively is true as well. In the event that you have dam that is supposed to be spritzed on the misbeh and then it's brought inside the dam would become ple as well. That's known as the so is when it leaves its goes from the place of to a place of lesser is when it leaves its mock but it's considered entering because it entered the it actually went to a place that is of a greater level of kadusha. Now the to this is a it's the says so if you're going to take the and you're going to bring it into the it's going to disqualify the entire carbon. Now notice the that talks about is talking specifically about a carbonas. So the Mishna over there from the base brings three whether or not that is in fact only true foras or whether it's true for other and if it's true for other which carbon and that's really where today's stop begins learn over there any dam of a carbon that's supposed to go on the in theor that is brought into the will become possible meaning not only the carbon carbon as well. Now what is the so in the it's rashi quotes it it's because although the itself is talking specifically about but it says the word is extra it's coming to be but not only the no the talking about it's only says it's not true for allonus but it's also not only true for the asham is included as well because the says and this very much feels like who said that just like so is going to be poss and a the talking about that's why it's by Now we have a hatkish that says that's how I know it's true by as well. But the Rabonan my mom why do the Rabon hold that it's only true by the and the way Rashi explains the Gmorra is not asking why the Rabon don't hold like Rabaka who says that it's true by all carbonas because the understands the Rabon are not to Rabaka's what's his says maybe the word maybe the don't that word. So the garra is not even asking that kasha. What the gumar is asking is seems to have a very basic. It says so if there's a hkish between the katas and the ping is talking about why wouldn't we say that it includes the as well. Now the truth is just to hit the pause button for a second. What do you mean the where they clearly don't hold of the say that is but we're not and we don't say just like the iss going to be possible as well. If that's the case, it sounds like the don't hold of the if they don't hold of the so what's the why not to with regards to the if anything I would look at this Mishna I wouldn't have any I would say it's very very I would say there's a we there's a that the regarding do we apply it to the via or do we not say we do the say we Oh, it's in the first where it says the saying not that way. Now you also have a third whatever but the point is as it relates to the is asking meaning I understand I don't understand the raon no just like you understand because he holds of the hish you should understand they don't hold the hish and it's theon so if you look at the last rash on the it's clear rashi was bothered with this and rashi says quote there's no way the raon completely disregard this meaning it's true in our mission don't hold the hold but at the same time to say that is that they completely disregard the and now make that is not comfortable with and to the contrary the says I don't understand why would say that there's no when it comes to an why are we not mish in the same way was makish says explain and he said that you can't say that when it comes to an it was based on the of which is very because all the was burnt on still you find that this because of the oil enter it would be like so which is not as it's not certainly it would not have meaning in the world of not the only that would have is and maybe the for sure not is all but not we're acknowledging that it makes sense that the rabbon would not hold like the question is why only why not but even if it would be also it would for sure not be because what's the to be only if you hold like would you be but in where you don't have the for sure you're not going to be once doesn't have either which is cool doesn't have well then certainly the asham which is can't have but says I don't know if it's a it's true has over an but has over and that is the is opposed to the which is not and by the way it's to speak this out because we're ready 10 days in even though we know the is but it's not really it's only a right it's not really so has a in that is as opposed to maybe because it has a it's for that reason that you would have by an despite the fact that there's no when it comes to the says the brought was also brought right that's why it's called it's coming to be and there's no with regards to a carbon now you're going to say it's true what would be there should be when it comes to a so this is not the time to delve into this but we know that there was an equivalent thereof in a carbon to a regular carbon and that is the was to the what the dam was to so there could have been a there should be on the just like there's on the but the reality is that there isn't so says the you're going to tell me which is should have and you find that it is not subject to the in other words just because something's a that in of itself does not mean that it should be subject to the now we're in the middle of the and the is going to interrupt the program the says that why did the say why did we say why did we jump to the it's an example of a carbon that's yet it doesn't have you're saying good but you could have said it differently as well which is also it's more similar to maybe it has real dam right but and still says the reason is because it's not so because really had a whole suffic whether or not when it comes to so to say would mean you're getting involved in a big shar is not willing to do that. So it's for that reason says the that you want to know why that even though there's a hack of but there's going to be what's the answer to that is and still you see there's But now we return to our program back to the marvel but I still have a note and being that it's not a ze we said it's the equivalent thereof is like but at the end of the day it's not a z and being that it's not a z so it could be it's for that reason there's no where it's a and despite the I understand But is I understand but is but that's not Yeah. What's the between the or theates it's going to be so that too will be as well. So said that the reason the did not hold up the hackish because as much as it's true yeah there is a hish that would seem to suggest that if there's when it comes to when it comes to as well so there's a based on between and at the end of the day are both examples of that are not subject to that is also and is not going to be subject to in other The was let's compare the to the ter is we're not comparing the to the we're comparing it to the and to the and the from is better than the and it's for that reason says there's no when it comes to say I have a there's a that a carbon and has over an and that is there's no minimum amount of money you had to spend on a carbon. If you could buy an animal for an oil at the most discounted price in the world, go for it. Or if you could buy the needed for the for a very cheap price, that's okay. An had a minimum price and that is it had to be worth at least two. So maybe because you find that it has more and therefore it would have based on the it should be subject to the in other words we're back where we started and that is what hold like said the last days on some There has to be a heckage between the and the so has why does the not have what are you going to tell me because I learned from based on that what that it doesn't have there so we shouldn't have here either and if that's the case you can't learn from there that there shouldn't be says there must be a new reason says the word teaches me it's with as opposed to of another carbon as opposed to the of an is not going to have says. So now the just said that even though there's a limo there's a par that says that is only true for the is not true for the so who now needs to explain his position said that not only by the but even by the it's based on well if there's a mut of so what does do says of But the is included. It's coming to be is only if the d is not if the bosser is how to be using that to be had in the word and the reason is because if all the wanted to do was be the buser then it could have just I would know it's the dumb and it's not the it's not the the fact that we add the map at the end of the word dumb to make it. So that's coming to teach me a new mute and that is not only for that I would just need the word dumb the teaches me it's also it's the d of the and it's not the says why is he not masking that there's two to be had over here says he held that to make two here is not a good and is because if the would have say it would be poetically inaccurate. The right way to say it is now if the whole word is extra but the word is not extra because I need the word to tell me once I need the word so then to add that's just the other that's just a poetic appropriate way of saying it there's only one to be had there's not two to be had and for that reason we're so we're not going to be asham what's the bottom line the bottom line is that the garra had a a whether an holds that and he added the to the list was that the reason added the is because of the clearly don't hold of this hish at first glance it would seem that this is the regarding the because the is mentioned by Yet say it's not only true by the true by the as well and it's based on the heckage of the so we said if we were writing the we would say wow it's so in the first and later on holds a here he said he said regarding and don't hold the but actually took the opposite approach the tarnered that for sure their opponent on some level must hold it a heckish now why did they hold akish on day. So yesterday's but at the end of the day on some level for sure they must have held it a heckish and asked it as a tight if the hold. So why do they not hold it a heish when it comes to the of and what was the because it says and from there we learn that it's and again the second part of the recap is three regarding that's hold is true by the hold it's true only by the holds if it's true for based on the it's going to be true for the as so now the is going to return to the and that is a it's included in according to it's included in the exclusions and according to according to the that hold that I know the I understand why the was and the was. What's the background to the said it says in theor talk about the it's like the kadosh and it's like the which is said why did the Torah compare the teaching that there's a certain and which is that the one It's like the which is for that reason with the right the to the what the is to the is also going to be possible. However, a that's being brought not because somebody did an a and now he's bringing a to atone for his a but rather he's bringing an a therefore it's going to be treated like a and is going to be the says but it that So why is the compared to the compared to the in other words the says compared to it's compared to the what's this all about? Is it the is it the clearly there's a significance in that it's like the significance in that it's like so really addressed it said that there's a certain that's like and then there's a like I'll tell you what if you did like therefore if you do it's possible like if you did like an said very why the was based on the between is but this is all good according to the but that is according to rebel. So you're going to tell me there's a that's like a well they have the same. So is according to say that it something that could be explained based on another this isn't a this is in the event that did a and he didn't put the into a so in a perfect world after the ken does the kit he would take the kit put it into a walk the equivalent of and then on the which is the equivalent of this. So what would be if the was not put in the says is because the compared the to know what held he held that the is coming to tell me his f sometimes is like a sometimes it's like an in the event that the chooses not to take the and put into a rather he's going to be he's going to do the he's going to walk the holding it in his hand. So then he has to hold it with his right hand and do the with his right hand the way you do the with if he chooses to put it in a then you put it into your left hand or if you want you could put it in your left hand which could be done with your left hand. Now the truth is this is a little bit of a kadesh because usually avoid had to be done with right that's the way anoid had to be done with your right that's the way it's supposed to be that only the had to be done with the all the other were allowed to be done with the said that who says that you could take and put it in a not put in a it's put in a it's really based on who holds that any carbon other than the could be done with the smo and shim saw a heckish in the parish to the and he was like puzzled he said what's it coming to teach me he said you know it's coming to teach me that where you would have to do with the or it could be like where it doesn't have to be done with the admin it can be done with the what's it to it's you put it into a cliche said you're not put into if you're doing a it would have to be with the if you're putting it into and then you could even hold it with the left hand but what's the bottom line what do you see from here another application for this nothing to do with but rather related to doing with your right hand doing with your left hand and could be other it's based on that only the has to be done with your right hand and that the does not have to be put into but the bottom line is what's has to do with the I have the same is what isa it's this of in the so if you do a little bit of a a what emerges what emerges is we have two how to understand the he of either it's coming to tell me that a sometimes is like apostle Or sometimes it's like depends if it's or what's coming to teach me is that sometimes has to be done with your right hand and sometimes it can be done with your left hand. What it depends on is did you put the into the or did you not put the inar two different of why we would compare the mas either to the or to the what's the problem the problem is both of these is the the brought to explain the heish which we said would be the way the would explain it was a who the of that is and then the mishna that we brought to explain was also what's going on over here. How could have his cake and eat it too, right? How could you have two separately from this is for which was the And the reason holds that is as opposed to which is really not based on the hkish because the heck is taken based on the way he explained his in the what is the reason very simple. Why is a regular aas because it says who right? We saw that earlier in the word who is extra to teach me that not only is there but it's actually well it says and it's for that reason holds that is going to be possible. So really used the heckage of to teach me what he taught me the mission not in the so how does he know the of the is based on it's based on the fact that it says he by the which by the way is the same word right but it's the same word that it says regarding the regular now you're going to ask this is the one loop that the gar didn't close and that is well the bis said that learns it from keshadikas It didn't say that he learns it from the word he of you have to say that just brought the as butami that's really not his in terms of whether you're going to darish in the way in the or you're going to dish in the way that says the comes out from the in the another according to the whole that an asham is with regards to what is it the now we had two applications for the heckish of today's one is our and the other one is both the are not anyone right why don't they hold it akish regarding that's why don't they hold it a heckish regarding because it says with a question is then if they don't have the and they don't have the with regards to so with regards to what do they have the hkish now you'll tell me maybe they don't have the hish so for the third time we're going to read the last and by the way the reason it's because the put them together the so if the lumps these two things together there has to be a reason the terra is doing that so if there must be some heckish to be had. We're holding strike two already because the two attempts that we had in the to apply this heish fell flat. Knocked out both of them in a good way, right? He accepted the hish in both cases. rejected both of them. I'll tell you why very simple just like require so to say doesn't say do you need and if so how do I know the answer is yes how do I know it I know it based on the moving along so the Mishna had said so was the third cheetah that was mentioned in the Mishna Right. The four sheet is in the regarding the first is the was the second. The third was agrees with but he adds a wrinkle. He says that just like apostle. So too if you would bring another carbon that would be possible as well. One other thing that we have to mention before we start this next is that we mentioned before that the only time apostle is if you brought the pes so a man is after that is of when you're supposed to be in the carbon if the pes was brought then it's going to be possible however a palis has a dinner And therefore, regardless of what the is, it's going to be in the same vein holds that the only time if somebody would bring a different carbon and would have a mind that it would be possible is if he brought that carbon. If however he would bring the carbon and have a mind in that instance, it would not be an issue. Now it relates to is a point. There's no man and no man when it comes to is always but a has a very unique time. It's a mitzvah right it's being that it has and just like the Mishna said that is on the level. It's also true in where someone had if that carbon was brought that's when it would be a problem otherwise not that you should know that it's and which is interesting by the way because is one of the four that are mentioned in the Mishna is one of the four that are mentioned in the Mishna. So this is like a little interesting but the bottom line is said that this also holds it was he said that I agree that holds a little bit of but not 100% he says that yeah holds of when it comes to the carbon not however when it comes to the so if somebody would bring a carbon lash holds its plea would also hold its ple but a carbon lash where holds its pleaz holds that really it is caution now from here until the two dots about 10 lines from the top of the days the gummor is going to bring a bryer it's going to be a long run on bryer and in this bryer we're going to pause stop we're going to pause We're going to stop and pause twice following Rashi's lead because really it's from this long bryer that and Rabba are going to extrapolate and demonstrate their respective positions. So we're just going to have a long bryer now and somehow we're supposed to figure out why is bringing this now probably has something to do with look at the right has something to do with this is that we just mentioned but we're exactly that's not so clear of course did the work for us and the disclaimer before we start this price is it's not the easiest price in either way says the we learned to so what's between and Rabbi they were arguing whether rebel we don't know if you know who this rebel is yet but whether rebel held 100% like or whether he held us like he 100% like that or are going to be possible or he held like are going to be possible but are going to be cautious it says the gar that is more than a year old. As a result, it's no longer to be a carbon and it was brought during this Monday. He's supposed to bring a carbon p and it was brought essentially this person brought it there was a p. Yeah, but we know already is a one of the three examples that talked about where really is just like an academic way of saying someone that's holding a that was brought or much simpler or if somebody would just bring a carbon other than a p and he would have in mind of the pasu says it's going to be possible says it's going to be now just first things first it's here that holds of as it relates to the right that's why there's no debate between and whether holds like regarding or not the debate is whether he holds like regarding but regarding you can't really have much of a conversation because it's which is a any other which we said even is going to be possible. So again there's no debate with regards to whether holds like whe because that's in the words of this price the debate is going to be as we're going to see regarding if it's true for you could hear it would be true for as well maybe is going to be different says so again it was between anduh turned and he told him as follows the whole year notes where is not if it's brought right if you bring a carbon it's possible why is it possible because it's not to bring the carbon yet you find that carbon that are brought with are going to be cauter and this tells even because even though that's only if it's right it has to be the whole if it's but even agrees that are brought it's going to be so if that's the is then certainly that brought should be as well. So turns rubble and he says you're saying you're saying that if you bring it's going to be possible to me that's inconsistent with the why because we're if you bring it's going to be poson that are brought is going to be. So where even the certainly has to be what is proving is that is better than it is. What's the proof? Because but is that means is better than the IS FROM THE ITSELF LIKE VERY PARTIAL BECAUSE a whereas a pal is possible. So if you see is better than that has to be because again the is a better than if certainly is inconsistent with the toldu that if you're going to make this type of you don't find this every day but he says if you're going to make this type of then I'm going to twist the a little bit differently and you're going to see what's going to a result is uh an outcome that's not tenable that we both agree is not endless because I can use your logic and I can flip this in a way that again we won't be able to live with. How so? We'll say it's false. We're going to say that if you is that it's possible yet is that if you would it would be well then then certainly it should be as well says let's entertain this if you it's right why is it possible because only if you bring a move on it's going to be pos then the is it's so why don't we then make and say that if so which is should certainly be in other words you see that a bismano aesi more to beer than right. Where do you see that? Because is so to be a man. So why don't we say that if and why is that? because and it's and for that reason but the point is if a man then certainly a man and of course we know that's not the case right are you going to tell me that that's the case of course you can't say that in other words toldu you're telling me based on the mid of that you are able to prove that a is a better than it is than it is right is a better than it is. Where do you see that? Because and based on that you want to make a certainly should be. That's the point. But it's based on what's that is better than it is. Well, if that's the case, I'll just flip around the cards a little bit and I'll tell you a is for sure better than a Where do you see that? because and so if that's the case if then certainly should be yet we know that is is possible and again it's not the same that the reb is responding to Yeshua to but it's eerily similar You're telling me that based on the relationship between you can extrapolate that is better than and based on that you want to be well I can also extrapolate from the relationship between that is just better than a so let's extrapolate based on the same exact logic that a bisman should have to be cautioned Because if it's certainly man and you agree that that's not the case. Well, if that's true, then obviously there's some flaw with your kab. So again, didn't address what the flow with kab is. But he proved to him that you can't make such a kabr because if you're going to make this kabr, you're going to have to make the other kab and the other kabr is not really an option. But continued and said, now let me frag up the kim again. What's is that you see is better than it is where do you see it from the puzzle. So is better than which is better has to be as well. So now is going to hack up the itself. He says it could be although it's true that but it's only because the itself if you would be the reason is because it's not a does it make sense then to apply and to say that would also be I don't know because is actually possible. So it's very very sesome and rash doesn't explain so much either but what rebel's timing is that at the end of the day there's a flu in what you're saying again till now rebel just said that if you're going to dash and you want you have to dash my but now he's talking to the actual and what he's telling the is as follows what he's saying is that it could be there's a relationship between what you're in whether or not that should impact the carbon that you're bringing right now. Two, had you been bringing the carbon that you were thinking about right now, what would be the status of that carbon? So it could be that the reason is because but will be possible because is is also going to be possible. So at the end of the day there's a major to be between and the reason is because could be there's a relationship. It could be there's an inherent relationship between whether or not this should pass this carbon and what would be if I was bringing that carpet that I was about in an of right now. So again will be because going to be why is going to be possible as well. Now if you look at Rashi, Rashi says that this time there was number one there was a like a response hit the ball over the net to like aim but also Rashi has one very important line and this is the first time we're going to pause the middle of the and that is this is also this is also just gave you his explanation. He just gave you his why has to hold that if you bring it's going to be possible because if you do right now would be a problem. So just like if you were bringing that carpet that you might be a problem if you bring another car that it's also going to be a problem again this is the first pause that I see from the BR that he holds like now we said the first line of the B you see already you see that he holds like regarding he said I'm a furish but holds like him 100%. Maybe only holds like him with regards to regarding and says he's not him 100%. He disagrees as it relates to says you know what my is where Rashu speaks at right here says my is from the time of because explained himself raza said there's a relationship between if I would bring this carbon would be possible then if I bring another CARBON AND THAT CARBON it's also going to be possible that's the reason as a whole that if you bring it's going to be possible well if it's true for the should be true for the as well. What's the difference? There's no inherent reason to be between and if it's going to be true for the should be true for the that is that is the reason said that I know that said his not only with regards to the even though in the brace it's only by the look at his reason if his reason is right whatever that means but the bottom line is what he seems to be saying is there's a relationship between if I would bring this carbon it's possible well then if I'm possible if I would bring that carbon it will be then if I'm going to be if that's why as possible then it has to be true as well there's no between the but again we just hit the pause button in the middle of the continues and the bryer says Rabishua told another tiny He came from another angle. He said, he said, "I have another problem with what you're doing here." And the reason I have a problem with what you're doing here is because what's going to emerge is is that in a way a schlim is going to be more than a pes to a certain degree as it relates to and that can't be because I mean learn the first 10 blood is more than when it comes to and based on what you're saying I don't know I'm not so sure I have aims where a pes is actually more than a How is that? How is that? If you bring a It's possible. But if you bring a it's going to be a that's going to be a problem. meaning we're going to call that that is a for that reason it's going to be now we understand why but says I'm very uncomfortable with this and he says that's why I don't like your so the continues he says and he attacked this from another angle he said he said so we find that is right we know different examples of what means but is brought as there's no such thing as like a leftover is going to be brought as a said if that's the case with the meaning there's a between what's a little in it because still you find that if you it's going to be possible We don't find this that the can be brought as a then certainly if you would bring it should be possible says that that is possible then has to be possible and the reason is because the pes has more of a to meaning is less of a foreign than is a and the reason is because every has in it some but there's no in the reverse. So is then certainly a should have to be. Now, not to go too crazy, but the have a little bit of a problem with this part of the because it feels a little bit just from the flow of the was in response to where Yeshua told him right initially came with his he says it's very simple if right now it would be possible then if something else is also going to be possible what would tell them you came up So that can't be based on the so says okay I hear let me attack it from somewhere else and he comes with a nice so if I hear but you didn't answer's problem you still have the same anomaly that for some reason has an issue with Either way to this already this is extra credit I am back but either way so what's version 2.0 knows McCart he's not just saying that if a puzzle then if it should be possible as well he comes with a whole blitz and still is not a chain let me ask you a question you find Now what's the case of Rash gives us a whole case but there's a time where a would sometimes not be brought as a but instead they would wait for it to get a and then they would redeem it and they would take the money for kids right for times that the was idols like this there's always going to be activity on the it's an example of that's being brought yet is never brought as a can be brought as according to your logic why don't we make the following means it has a connection to yet but you don't find that it should come out according to rebel that should be possible I never heard of such a thing according to your of why you're arguing out that is possible. It should come out that should also be possible. And I never heard that should be possible. And really based on the methodology, it's the same thing. The same you have from you have from now let's hit the pause button for the second time right now. And here we're going to introduce says one second I I don't I don't understand according to that holds that is of he didn't only mean he really meant he meant that bring that so if you would bring it would be possible as well. Now he said it by Pak said it by pas no but he meant by kus as well. Well, if that's the case, so what's Yeshua's and at the very least right now should say of COURSE I HOLD THAT it's true also just like is also but Yeshua didn't think that that was what and himself didn't respond that way says this was this is all part of the this is the that's going on in This is where saw in this saw that said he only meant he actually did not mean it either. So what did yes response again is from what didn't respond. What did he said? It's it's not at you can't compare the to the why because when it comes to the shank it could be the reason that an is not possible when you is because the whole year being that itself is the whole year. So it could be is not such a we only right the whole year but only being that you find that the itself is so limited even when you're bringing up it's during six hours a year. So says that it should be regarding other things as well. This is already a very nuanced but either way tells that it could be a pes and the reason is because even you find is so limited in terms of when it's going to be a it's only the whole year. So of is more of a than where do you see it in respectively. So it's for that reason it could be between which would be a problem and again you see it in the furish's response what held and that is that even only said when we're dealing with as opposed to when you're dealing with katus again as promised this is not the easiest price in but the bottom line is is that we have here that is in line with these said that just like awar So too if you would bring it would be possible as well. Turns out we have a and a hard regarding and there was whether who said regarding did he mean it also regarding or did he mean it only regarding said in fact said no he meant it only regarding he didn't mean it regarding where did and respectively get there. It was from the in the back and forth between Yeshua in this price that we will not recap. But the point is if you really just want to identify the punchline regarding the Raban was focusing on the first exchange between Rebel and Rabu and Rabbi was focusing on the second exchange. Right in the middle of the you have all of a sudden he comes with like he comes from a whole another angle extrapolated his from the racial the initial din between raz and rabb from the dinar either way we're going to finish now this last that's going to take us to the second Mishna already here in the so moving along the Mishna had said was the fourth sheet in the say in the event that a carbon was brought to if it was brought to but the carbon that you had in mind was carbon that has more it's going to be if it's a lesser kadusha it's going to be possible and he gave two examples that's That's is going to be possible says so some said in the name and others said what did they say what is what's his based on the following it says Now we saw already on that this is related to the right. This was the this is the of this but either way this is the way question right means it's it's more so in the event that you had but the was for more then it's not it's not considered a if it's not it's not then it's going to be a problem this is the says but really is this person coming to teach me this I need to teach you how do you know that if somebody eats right someone eats what's the so learned that from this and he learned it's talking not about it's actually talking about and the is talking about something that in the future and ready to teach me that if you have something from where in the future you're going to be now we're ready to go ahead and to eat but what do you see from here that's what this is coming to teach me how could you tell me the is coming to teach me I needed to know the or says in if this is all the was coming to say then let it It's coming to teach me both. The point is as follows. From the fact that it says theu that's me bigger. That's how I know. But from the fact that it says it in the future tenseu not that's how I know about something that we're going to do in the future. And it's from there I know the that is a relates to by the way if you're wondering brought twoes from we just a second ago we learned moving along had to understand what are his words Now we know that can mean this is so wanted to know when said that it's he meant it's not but it's in contrast to where it's actually going to be possible. Now if that's what he holds that means he's arguing with the regarding one thing meaning he agrees where's he arguing whereas say that's also don't discriminate between says no it's going to be possible maybe it's possible comes out he's arguing with both because according to it's always according If it's possible it's actually never said some say it was that said right that's a good name in bring from the itself right gave two examples one example was the other example was Now that second example is going to be going to be possible. Now if you're going to tell me that when we say it means it's meaning and by the way as well there's no it's a gift that you give a ken it's not that's what it is there's no element of so when shimar gave in his second example of gavaya What did he mean when he said he for sure meant you know why because there's no even because there's no such thing as so means so if the case of is a case of then certainly certainly of kadoshim should It should also be a case of meaning the case of there's no there because there is no so if that's the case be consistent and we should assume that it's also going to be but says maybe when we say regarding being that it's impossible to have a because it's not a that's even subject to the laws of but maybe it would be Ella says so if that's the case why did we even mention that case in other words in the followup is explaining a little bit better what the original question was right sometimes from the follow-up question you understand what the original question was the original question wasn't just what do you mean you see so probably is also right the the riot was as follows the riot was why did two examples of one example was and the second example was one example would be enough If you're going to tell me that is on how to understand has to be because there is no so and we'll be patient. But if you're going to tell me that really it's not necessarily because maybe the well if that's the case then my what is the why mention the second case now you'll tell me maybe you're coming to tell me the first case says no really and the reason we mention the case of is and how to understand you want to know why we mentioned it. Maybe when you're dealing with they're so different, there's a but if you have two levels of which is a type of which is also a type of maybe those are all the same thing. Maybe it's not even a same level. It's a diff it's not a different level and therefore it doesn't pass within the world of it would have been mock to say the whole concept of is only within the same class. So within the world of or within the world of then you could have it. So maybe that's the I know this from a different say which comes first. So it says the comes before the Arab because the required four of the additionally it required as opposed to the but what do you see from there you see that the schlman has more kaduca than the bkar from the fact that it comes before the so I know already that the is on a higher level than the bkar and even though they're both kachum kalin but within the world of kachum kalin there's subcategories so can't tell me the reason mentioned another example of to teach me that. So why do we even have to imagine says of there being nuances and levels within the world of the and that's why told us what he told us heav and the way he set it up was number one if you have and kadashim or even within the world of kachum kum itself there's a mus of levels where you can have levels of kachim God, don't I know that from a Mishna later? Yeah, it's an idea that repeats itself in another Mishna, but this is the place. And by the way, this is the first Mishna in the Mazak. Does it make sense? This would be the place over there. We're going through all the different and the what comes first. So in the world of Kadima, we mentioned that the Schlam comes before the but it's not being mentioned to tell me there's a between the Schlam and the Bakar. It's just it's a in the world of Kadima of Carbonis. But the real place that we're coming to mention that that was in levels that's and that's why he mentioned that case not to be on and really if you think about it the comes out with so for sure holds that is going to be what he wasn't sure about was it or is it going to be so the truth because today was a tough data through so I think we're going to leave the raid on the table we'll save item but just to end with one because we just finished really the first here of and that is I was discussing with my son that the first in the says what does it mean that was brought you brought there's so many different variables there's so many different ways that you can concoct a curb in what does Rashi want how did he know to say so Number one, Rash is coming to teach you that that mean the first thing Rash's telling you is that you know what it means to bring a carbon you have to think about another carbon because if you're not going to think about another you're only going to think well that in and of itself is not going to be so it's as opposed to just note It has to be because another thing that Rashi is coming to say is that when the Mishna says it means you say of course I mean no it's not true because really the laws of and they're also I am the first in the where is not sure how to learn the is the only talking about or is it talking So for sure Rashi is saying that as well, right? So there's two easy lowhanging fruit that Rashi is coming to tell me. Number one, it's a and number two, it has to be. But if it's why would say is because Rashi wants is coming to bearish the sheet of the Tanakama. The shittita of the tanakama is his unique. It's the who holds that it's going to be possible. If the is and he holds that when it's really going to be so it behooves him to give me a case where it's so it makes perfect sense why Rashi would pick a case of but even in Rashi didn't have to pick right he could have picked he could have picked a case of but you have in the now why couldn't Rashi say he couldn't say because it's not okay why couldn't Rashi say I'll tell you why because when the Mishna says that line of the is also read the Rebel is also leveraging that first line of the who holds and with who if Rashi wants to tell me a case of because he wants to go from Shini Aario. Well, Rashi only has one example that he can give. It has to be the it can't be the because everybody holds the is not true because that's in the right. That's the can't say because that's in. So this line of can't be and the is talking this line and so the only one of the kados that are available is that's why Rashi said why did first Rash is coming to teach me that not that's suffic right in the beginning of Number two, it has to be because but also what after you learn through the four and the argue with the Mishna with the where he argues with the now by the way does he argue with also that's We're not going to get involved. The only thing we know for sure that HE'S going to be. So you want to bring out the inn the one you have to talk to is right. This line is the and is talking about something else that's not this. So really you're talking to so you want to bring out that it's going to be true even what is okay so what are my options here my options are right what's it could be could be an it could be it could be a right we're not talking about that's easy right so is off the table nozzle and he said the only thing you can be is that's said Clarki here in the Messiah.