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heard. Today's d is
and we are about 28 lines from the
bottom of
so we're moving along in a very lish per
the 13th of and as we've seen the topic
of
is the of and the of
the terra is very clear it's in par it's
repeated again in par that a carbon had
to be brought in the Mak Mikdash. So
much so that if somebody had a carbon,
he was Maktish an animal, it's now a
carbon and he brought it outside of the
Mikdash. Not only did he do an aa, not
only does he get a slap on the wrist,
but he's one of the that the Mishna
mentions right in the beginning of
additionally we saw that the Torah
separated the par of the par of so it's
one para
inra but it's really it's two
independent paras within the one para
you have the par you have the para of
addition Ally we saw that it's not only
so far we learned in the Gmorra we'll
see more as we continue along in the par
but we already saw
what the is but they both agreed that if
somebody does
he's going to be as well
but the point is although the mentions
regarding and it's not unique to there
other
would
is that he would be as well.
Additionally, we saw that the
is related to the says very very clearly
that the reason that it's so not to
bring a carbon is
so to speak. So that if you will be
careful and you will never bring even a
carbon to
now we're a little bit more comfortable
that you'll never bear but there's a
slippery slope and if we're going to
allow you to bring a carbon toe you may
choose to now bring a carbon to another
deity in other words you may be so at
its core the reason the
is related to the idea of regardless
there's a lot more raid that we need to
speak out just in terms understanding of
we'll get to it in the coming days.
Today is going to be # no raid
regardless we begin with a classic
if somebody is
nowadays in other words today that
there's no if somebody would be
and then he would be that carbon is he
for
as we like to Whenever
you know you're learning a real
reason
because although today there's no butt
still exists and being that this is if
somebody has a carbon technically
theoretically hypothetically he still
has an obligation to take that carbon
and bring it to the to be mid in Ba
mikt. Thus you have the iser of not
being in the B mikdash. So being that
although there's no physical mikt today,
but you still have of the mikt as the is
going to say in a moment.
So there is a concept of being a carbon.
So it it makes sense then that in the
same thing the flip side of that coin
that there should be a problem if
someone has a carbon and he doesn't
bring it to the base.
that that when
the Roman Empire destroyed the second
base with that
of the Bikto was destroyed and being
that there's no Bik
so that there's no obligation there's no
possibility to bring a carbon so what
should be the problem if someone is m a
carbon
In other words, this
which is really a detail. It's a laws of
really has broader international
ramifications. It's related to a much
more general
that appears very often in that is
whether
that's the case.
Would it then make sense to say that the
really
said when the were building in the
beginning of
destroy the base of he took into 70
years. At the end of the 70 years Cyrus
the great allowed the Jews permission to
go
and to rebuild the Bikto. It took many
many years 20 plus years until the
construction of the BA mikt was finally
complete. And Razzzar was relating what
he had heard the Messiah tradition lived
4 500 years later. But Rabzer was
relating what he had heard regarding how
the construction of the second mikdash
went down. said, "I heard that when they
built the claws
that they made curtains around the area
of the and they made curtains around the
area of the Azar, meaning in the long
run, there weren't going to be curtains.
There were going to be walls, but it
takes time until you construct the
wall." So during the intimate period
before the construction of the MET was
complete, they immediately hung up
curtains surrounding the area of the and
surrounding the area of the Azar.
Stating that said, there was a
difference between the way the curtains
were situated in the Azar.
In the curtains were to the inside of
the In other words, when they were
building the wall, they were standing
outside of the curtains.
And in the Azor they built the curtains
on the inside meaning they were standing
from inside the Azara building a wall
around them. The reason was because you
don't want to stand in the it's okay to
stand in the Azar. So when the Yidd were
building the they should be standing in
the so they made the films like this
they can be standing on the outside a
it's okay anyone's allowed to go to the
as long as you're not coming. So that
already wasn't an issue. That's said I'm
Yeshua said I heard differently. I heard
that during those 20 or so years before
the Bik was complete brought even though
there was no BD in fact even today said
that there's no mdash
even though was only eaten.
I heard that they used to eat even
though there was no club and
even which once upon a time had
surrounding it. I don't have the real
life but it's okay
and said the reason is
says
and others said that I heard that when
the second they made short clin curtain
surrounding the mikdashu commented to
heazar I don't agree I heard
bias what was comment Yeshua was calm
and tight as the Gomorra probably was.
He understood that what Baz was trying
to say was the reason they had to build
these curtains was because they needed a
surah of a Bikash in order to be able to
bring carbonas and the wanted to bring
carbonas during that interim period.
They didn't want to wait 20 years until
the B mikdash was finally built. They
wanted to be able to bring carbonas
during the interim period. So what did
they do? It takes time to build a ba
mikdash. So they had like an interim
bas. a makeshift uh construction with a
paroas and client not the real walls and
that allowed them to bring carbon but
that's why they needed the cl and on
that commented he said it wasn't
necessary
in other words says
don't you see from the earth
obviously holds that they needed the
curtains because
it's only that said
In other words,
it's going to be which isn't
it really isn't
maybe everybody else
meaning Even
if that's the case, why was he saying
what was he trying to say when he said
they made wasn't he trying to say they
needed the because if not they could
have brought carbon and bring out the
ramification all the ramifications that
you find throughout that would come
about if you help
the says no he was just saying what he
had heard
He was just saying that that he heard
they
were says
so not everybody should see what was
going on. It wasn't important for every
person that that went to and ascended to
see all the construction that was going.
They did it for purposes. They were
bringing they didn't want everyone to
see the BTS was a a muck of to a certain
degree.
You find this concept of the so it was
purposes but as it relates to the
was there
didn't go anywhere
according to according to
it's not this is
now obviously when you see the words
the first thing that comes to mind is
rape so we should be speaking out a lot
of rape But like we said this morning is
# no raid later in the week will speak
out raid and hopefully a lot of raid as
it relates to this.
But for now
that's we'll see more about the she
either in today's or we'll see that in
tomorrow's but that's clear that there's
a how much a person has to be in order
to be the of Allah. It says
at the bare minimum it has to be a so
what if somebody's and there was no
but there was a bone attached to the
meek and the bone is the of so do we say
that we have a
because even though there's no on the
so that from that standpoint you can
argue Why should there be a problem of
on the and you don't have a without it?
But at the same time says as long as the
is attached to the it's
aer
and therefore it could be
we don't look at it as attached to the
there's no on the only on the you don't
have a
and as a result you're going to be
another
if somebody would be my as
He would be mocked the head of a bird of
an says that it too didn't have a
but he salted it and the salt was so we
know the says
a different
but the point is is that every carbon
had to have salt on it. You couldn't be
a carbon without salt.
It's actually the salt is of some sheer.
So what would be if you did a example is
the but what would be if you
was
you says
you heard and he told
at first glance isn't that
we had whether the could be same not
the
according to
said that the is
but at the same time we can hypothesize
what would hold regarding me because
perhaps
maybe she told me by the mean of the
baser because the is of the same min as
the baser right the it comes together
with the baser you have bones attached
to melt
which is a foreign object. There's just
a mitzvah to salt the animal but at the
same time it's not maybe it's not and
I can hear the according to as well said
that is not
you know said is not
because there's no mitzvah necessarily
to put the bones of an animal on the if
it's attached to the animal. Yeah, but
to go in the event that it was detached
and now put it on the there's no
mitzvah. But at the same time by the
punish but the is always a mitzvah. You
have to put me on the on the so you
don't have to have the attached to the
but you do have to have the salt
attached to the baser. So I would think
maybe over here
maybe there is no difference. go. In
other words, was asking a very nice I
heard
between earlier
of previous generations, they weren't
sure whether the is for the sheal or the
is not for the Allah said, I want to
clear a different shel is the mel this
year or is it not mash this year?
Immediately's
reaction was the same shila. No, it's
not. It's not the same shila. I can hear
it according to maybe he would hold
here.
I can hear maybe here would hold or
maybe not. Either way says
so. Now we return to the first in the
par. So
began with someone that was and the same
exact carbon he was and he was the first
part of and the second part of so again
the par which is
it's bifurcated
and this person was both with the same
exact carbon meaning if someone is one
carbon and by the carbon of
He's twice and if he did
he would have to be two but this person
was the same exact
says you're going to be
in other words even if it was two for
one for
argued said that in this case you're
only going to be meaning according to
you're only going to be for not for the
only is for is if you but if you
in that case you're going to be you're
not going to be and then we explained
his position he said the reason is
because in the case you were and then
you
were you and the only time for is if
you're
and this is very simple it's because you
were supposed to take this and bring
this into the mikdash by the fact that
you were my that's a bad thing. That's
only true if you could have brought it
into the B. had no
there was no because once he was at that
point it's
so that
it's for that reason not but responded
back and at first glance they made a
checkmate argument
you're going to tell me the only time
every is a problem because the minute
you Take the
Rebi was sitting and he said
is so we have an obligation
we need to come to the defense of and
that's exactly what did said you know
really held really helped
It's true. Every single you're being
mild with something that's not right now
to go. Why is it not right to go to his
but it was once right to go to when you
was it was right to go to mean that it
had a
that's enough to say that it's somehow
that
as opposed to
that never had
the at the moment that it would have
been it was already you were it
So at that point it was never it was
never it never had a never had that's
hold it's going to be so it's not holds
and it has to right now physically
be
realizes that every is not it's always
but at very least had to have one spin
every
was name was it only became not later
when it was
as opposed to
it. It was already not right here. It's
going to be different says
I too I'm going to come to the defense I
can make a distinction between
what is that
if someone and so the
but even though the learn the whole par
is it doesn't necessarily mean that
there's no den on this there is a den
there's aul
There's a
there's a
of
synonyms, right? There is a because if
you would take this boss and you put it
on the would be
now you're not supposed to put it on the
but there's a type
that you have. Thus it is to go to the
to be in the mind. That's why you have
the Allah
as opposed to
but if someone is that is such a bad
that messes up the carbon so horribly
that you don't even have a you don't
even have it's for that reason said
that's completely excluded from the
Allah's in other saying that there is a
bin that carbon has to be
to be on his in order to be
the boss of that carbon but every even
though it's
but it's still there's
it's only
where there's no
it's only over there that it's going to
be what's between
again said that the difference between
aren't they both possible is one had a
one didn't have a
said the difference is one is the other
one is
if you at night if the reason that it's
a problem
is because it never had a
also never had a was and being that the
was it never had a shak If the reason is
related
if the was done not is it was done with
a if the reason it's a problem is
because of this never had a even though
the was good but as soon as the was done
with a he never had that was
thus it's considered that there was
never a but if the distinction is
whether it's at the end of the day if
you do with
is going to be if
that's enough that if you
should be speaks out that that's
said that
that's all going according to
who holds that and these things are
said there was three in the par of zas
So that there are examples of cases
where it's
two of them are the two that just
mentioned
which is the equivalent of is also here
saying it's all but those things are in
fact going to be
so then The Mishna digress and the
Mishna went
and the Mishna said and we mentioned
I'll tell you another between the
with the methodology of that mirrors the
methodology of this meaning
is that even though someone that's he
has and he eats
but that's only a
he it's only true if he ate
That's but someone that's that eats
that's
argue and
a very similar argument to what they
made in the rat regarding
and that is how can you distinguish
between
and
every single time the Tom is
the he's
thus it's always
How can you say there's a difference?
That was the argument. So again, just
for one moment as backdrop before we
start this we're familiar with the laws
of md and that means that kachin and
don't go together. So if someone's tummy
enters the mdash he's if somebody eats
kach that's malus if someone is to and
he eats kach that's tar he's k as well.
So there's a lot of ideas of but as it
relates to background for this there's a
fundamental difference between someone
that's
that eats that's versus someone that's
that eats kum that's I mean they're very
similar they're both
but there's a big difference where the
toma is in the where the person is
what's known as and he eats that's
if the person this and he eats and
that's it's the that's over there it's
it's it's a it's an but at the same time
it's not going to be
said this is
that the only time someone that's that
eats
is if the he was but let's say he was
and the was then he's not going to be
car and now it's time to be exactly
how's that possible Every time the tummy
eats kachum, he made a he's always
eating the kachum. That's
at first glance the are coming with a
very compelling argument
said as follows.
In other words, that's true. We have to
tweak
a little bit. That's really holds that
if the person became and then the baser
became even though this tummy is now
eating bas he's still going to be for
eating the bas that's the only time said
his was when the baser first became and
then he became tom but if the person was
and then the bos became
it's
that he's going to be and being that
that's the
are not saying anything
is not a good time.
How could you tell me
is from every Tommy is a Tommy? It's not
true because he was Tommy first. That's
how he was. I mean that he was that's
what we're talking about. So as long as
he was Tommy first in that case it's not
going to be initial says
what is
first of all
and then the person became
what does that mean? So there's some
long rashies here. What it means is the
is actually a very general
and that is in the
so we know
once something is it can come again
stating that there are times where you
say one of them is what's known as
if the second is
it's over in iser over the first is
that's an example where you could say is
says something like this do
Why he holds a
is not
it's because once the was
so that even though now the person
became that second is not if that second
is not all you have is the of which is
not
that's why you're not going to be in
true but
and this is a classic example
Why? Because when the buser's Tommy, you
just can't eat this piece of meat. When
the person becomes Tommy, now I can't
eat any kach. So clearly when the person
becomes tommy, there's a lot more iss
the ramifications of him becoming Tommy
isn't just this piece of meat. It's now
gay all pieces of meat that are kach. So
as a result the
that's why even though the became first
and then the person became and usually
the
more that's why over here you're going
to say
what does mean we don't mean they hold
whereas
and for that reason in that case where
the bus became and then the person
became there's not going to be of
doesn't hold but
talk about
let the
saying an interesting
that maybe if the second is more than
the first everybody should so here you
have two reasons why you should say
number one and number two the second is
Second is
the first is not so saying I can hear
doesn't hold the but if the second is
more over here he should agree
to how do you know is more than
maybe is more than Tom
you're right on the one hand is more
because it's cars Thomas boss has no
carus but I'll find you a cooler that
Thomas has over Tomas bas
if the bas he can't put in the mikvah
and make the car if a person's he can go
to the mikvah and be so therefore you
find that sadra in tumas over
thus argues the thus argues the it's not
the second
bottom line is came with a good argument
the ter is only said it with the buster
became first the reason in that
eating the stomach is because
agree
not just that
in other words even
two paras
and the other one is alias says the
there's a in the parish of over the
parish of alias and there's a in the
parish
over the par of Rashi speaks out later
in the that this really a little bit of
a kesh because the had said that there
was a hish between the two paras
and we learned that is one from the
other in the context of a there was even
so based on and the hakish you would
think that the two parachutes are
interchangeable any
stating that the says it's not the case
there is one that has over and there's
one
if somebody
but he has in mind not to do it for
Hashem he hasn't wanted to do it for a
person that's even are you going to be
or not says the
if somebody would do that equivalent
there do the same exact thing but not
with in that case it would be now Rashi
speaks right away if
for
that truth says I agree with you but
you're not a so if you did it
you were amazing on but you were on the
do you have to be for being a
but that's Hashem's the question is from
perspective do we obligate you to bring
the katas do we allow you to bring the
are you a
because you
or not. So says
what's
two people hold on to the knife and they
shack together your potter there's a
idea of
you find this idea
together are going to be
but if two people held on to the of this
animal
And they were another
let's say he did and then another Allah
and then another
says again assuming you did
so
and there's going to be a number of days
that's going to discuss this in in
rather great love detail. Additionally,
you're not
unless
you do it on a rock or on a stone that's
enough for you to be in other words
have to be like you make this makeshift
and now you do only then are you says no
even if you do it on a rock or on a
stone as long as you took baser of ker
and you were my that's enough for you to
be.
So we had two differences between and
Allah's one was a Allah. Now there was a
in Allah over what was the had over.
So as long as you
doesn't matter what your intentions are
you're automatically going to be. But
when it comes to you have to have a mind
that you're doing fashion says
why is
probably because the says
it says in the par of
it has to be so if it wasn't
it also says it says
it's true it says but it also says says
and we
so it's true it says but it also says
it says
well
says no that is I need for something
else
that is even if two people held on to
the ash
And the ish is by to tell me
maybe the ish that it says by is also
coming to teach me that if two people do
the together you're going to be
says the word and being that it says the
word that teaches me that you're only
only one person two people it says
only one person
it says
it says there
It says the same word
that it says by Allah
says
but if you were you made a mistake then
you're not ask the obvious what does
that if you were
you so not but the says
how do you know that by Allah is coming
to your mind
and not maybe come to mind the same
thing
says the word twice by Allah it only
says the word once in other words the is
saying that the reason
is because it says ish is
the reason
is because it says and the goes back and
forth it says the same is by Allah it
says the name
did what it does but the just concludes
with one of only why did it say if it's
not to teach me that it has to be why
doesn't it says
if somebody
says that you're potter the reason is
because it has to be something that was
brought as opposed to the
wasn't brought what does that mean so
again we're going to have to get to that
at some point this week not sure we're
going to get everything, but we're going
to have to get to it at some point this
week cuz it's
is actually critical in understanding
the laws of but for now the word
exactly. But for now, what is coming to
teach me is
that overall was
because it says it's interesting because
it says the same is by Allah. It says
the same, but they're coming to teach me
different things in different parishes.
And what was that? Two people that do
the but two people that do the are going
to be
when it says in the par of coming to
teach me.
I would have thought based on that
says
that's
why they tell you how to say is but the
bottom line is how do you know that
it's from
says says, "No, I disagree. Two people
that do like two people that do they're
going to be and the reason says the word
is what does the word is mean?" Nothing
that does to teach me that two people
that do Allah are why doesn't he say
that the word is that only one person is
hold that the word is coming
like we had in the previous for says it
says who who so are two separate
for
it's interesting
holds is not ashi
held is a right you can learn two things
from the word cuz said instead it said
but as it relates to ish ish it's
so the ish ish is not revealing but who
is revealing. Interesting. Either way
says
how who is
if the words is in the parah teach me
nothing because
then you have to be consistent. You have
to say that when it says in the par of
is also not teaching me anything. The
problem is we learned from
we learned
even
says he went from somewhere else not
away
even it was
it's from the words.