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And we are at the beginning of a new per
the 13th per.
So
is one of the important.
So when you think of the lumbish parts
of of
what comes to mind is the
madesh and
is right up there. Either way
really is the
of the that's mentioned in
so begins and the beginning of par is of
course
so the para that discusses
and the the
it's all mentioned mentioned in in right
in the beginning it's
the very next par
the mentions that's also but completely
unrelated to completely unrelated to and
that is the
and the is of let's just very quickly go
through the together and then we'll get
right into the der begins
So this is aid that took a carbon and
instead of bringing the carbon
what he did was is heed it. It's
important
or
it's a very bad thing. He was supposed
to bring it into the Bik. So what
happens to this person says the
this person is going to be
and the reason is
because it's important for you to know
there's only one place to bring a
carbon. You don't do not in your
backyard not but it has to be
and when you bring it to the says
like this will you be able to do you'll
be able to do
and only then will there be a then the
says that you know why this is so
important
which
although we'll see in today's d the gar
is gonna have several draws how to learn
this Pik but in the PK is is you know
why it's so critical to make sure that
you don't bring a carbon outside of the
B mikdash because we're all familiar
with the slippery slope and one thing
leads to another. If you're going to
take a carbon
and you're going to bring a what may
happen is you may bring another
sacrifice to another deity as well. This
may lead to so says the you know why
it's so important not to ever bring a
carving outside of the Bikto because
like this. You're not going to bring any
carbon to the you bring a carbon to the
goat. I thought the goat is the carbon.
No says
and once upon a time people used to
worship the devil. They used to worship
demons. So by having this in essence,
it's a protection. It's a to make sure
that you're not going to be
if you remember we spoke out
from
David made a that learns from a that
is not at first glance it makes no
sense. Why would there be a that the guy
should be? It's not one of the if it's
not one of the why would there be a you
don't need the to say that a guy doesn't
fill in. So why would you need an
apostic in the to tell me a
that a guy is excluded from the par of
so we suggested that if the whole is of
being that has
one of the and is like
so that you shouldn't come
maybe you think the guy would have say
as well
either says the
I want to tell you something else.
that just like I said that it's awesome
for a person to the carbon it's also
awesome for a person to be a carbon
meaning someone's going to take a carbon
and he's going to bring it whether it's
same story and instead of bringing it to
the he decided to make a barbecue
somewhere outside
this person is also going to be and then
the continues
Either way, so you have two par that are
right after the para of the par that
deal with someone bringing a carbon
outside of the oil.
The first one is someone that
the second one is someone that was.
Today's going to be # no raid but just
one har and man it is onear is the pik
begins ish is bas is it sounds like
we're talking about any as a matter of
fact we just mentioned the terrorist
that was that brought a riot that it
doesn't apply to a guy but aid for sure
why is it because you could argue that
so if a is going to go and he's going to
sh the carbon it's
It's a scotch and he did it in the wrong
place.
As a result, he's going to be But if
goes and he's
so extent that he was why should that be
for which he should be
because is always possible to do.
I understand why it applies to is
as long as you're you don't have to be a
it's not being told to the per se but
any even a woman incidentally why
because also to do that that's the first
mission the third par so based on that
it makes sense why it would apply to but
which is an that's plear
why is it that aar that does the is
going to be either There's a lot to talk
about maybe tomorrow night and that's
when we learn Sunday we'll get into it
but for now
if someone
and he's so he did both he did the first
part of the para and the second part of
the parita and it says
he's both for the and for the now he
can't be twice so what does it mean
twice it means if he did he did the and
he did the bash we look at them as two
separate aas If you do two
for each as a result you'll be for each
one meaning you'll be two is that we
look at them as two separate aas you
could have thought it's one there's a
doing and within that there's two
of the is that they're two independent
and as a result there's going to be for
each one independently
if someone
meaning was done and then afterwards the
imam were brought outside the was done
it's over you're going to be
say if you take the same carving and you
do and then you do
but you're going to be from the why
apostle because what were you my you
apostle so mean that what you brought
was a d apostle it's not a if it's not
so the mission says says
it sounds like even if it's the same
carbon you shed it and then you took
those you put them and you went ahead
and you were you both really in that
case you're not going to be because once
you did
has to be if it's
if it's at the very least it has to be
within the
was so at that point you're not going to
be when then are you when it was when
the was
you took the outside that is a good
problem is it's as a result you're going
to be but
it's not true
even a case and
as soon as you take it outside
if you're telling me
you're
meaning the only time is when you were
then there's a problem because every
single
by definition that Allah took place out
of the and the moment you take the out
of the at that point it's
and the mission goes
but the reason the mission is doing it
because the mission is going to bring
now another
from the logic perspective mirrors this
previous we'll say if eats
So Tommy that eats if he has
he is
if he eats whether the was tom or the
kum was
if the ate kchum that's
if the tom ate that's he's going to be
why do because you have to eat a do you
can't eat a dom.
really how's it possible for a tot
therefore
how could you have a that says that a
that eats is not for the fact that he
ate
every single time a eats kachin because
he's always being mama of the kachch
similar to this argument that
how could you tell me there's a that the
only time
is
every
because the moment you take the out of
it automatically becomes possible either
way
that eats
just as a FYI he's
like so even though whenever you talk
about it doesn't matter if the person's
to and the food is or the person's and
the food is to but there is an with
regards to meaning it's always going to
be but from a a standpoint if someone's
that's when there's a if someone's not
there's no
when it comes to the if somebody
if he does it
if someone's the same thing if he
doesn't he's going to
But the point is that there's a for
someone that's
the mentioned
if you the same carbon are you going to
be one you going to be two but that's
clear there's a and there's a first
glance what's the
says I'll tell you why it's
there's an that the clearly says that if
somebody's
and not just that the gives an theory
warned there's a say in the Torah that
says thou shalt not be
now
we read the together it's clear in the
in the it's really the next words
it's clear in the
says very very clearly that if
somebody's
now this interestingly is actually not
here in par but this is in par and the
over there talks about how where the
were supposed to be brought they were
supposed to be brought in the mikdash
and says the if if somebody doesn't
bring it in the mikdash it's it's a bad
thing and the is
clearly discussing and
we know
and you have two of the three say so you
have the and you have the and being that
you have the and the it's for that
reason there's going to be not only is
also going to be
but as it relates to
the says
the clearly says there's going to be
cars
but you see where did the Tyra say
anywhere that thou shalt not
So thou shalt not be my
but that person clearly says heal
we're talking about we're talking about
doesn't say anything about so if there's
no on then why should it be of
in other words there's a a cloud god in
the way Rashi learns this right here
it's very very clear this rashi is but
it's rashi so we're going to go with
rashi
that
applies not to but it applies to the
component of of so anytime a person
doesn't have that he would have been
it's then that he has to bring but
there's a rule
so just because the says that if you do
something
doesn't by definition mean that if you
do a you're going to be it's only if it
was
that the says and
now
you can have the
I understand if someone's
but
that's but there's no say anywhere in
the where the Torah says you're not
allowed to be as a result you have no
question but you don't have the if you
don't have the there shouldn't be so the
kasha is is how could the mission say
that
you have so there's no problem of
but as it relates to what do you have
the says
so we mentioned that the gives a why the
was like
because if you get you know what's gonna
happen you're gonna end up bringing up
so it says the don't so that you will
not
to be
but those words
says the Torah can go backwards as well.
It could be going back to the entire
par. I just finished telling you a par I
just told you that if somebody
but I never gave you a take those two
words
thou shalt not apply it bring it
backwards to the previous and now I have
a
rel that's
says
even if you want to use
meaning aside for the which is again our
you want to tell
But I have a rebel that already used
this love. We borrowed this. It's taken
already. You can't use it for this. What
was it used for? I mean,
we know if somebody an animal
mean somebody
or how somebody
so if you serve the way people used to
serve it. If somebody's or
or every had its own way that people
would worship it. If somebody would
worship in the way that people worshiped
it, he'd be for what he did. In addition
to that, if somebody's over any of the
that were used in the B mikdash, if
somebody's over any of the to any
doesn't matter which it is also going to
be it's learned out from apost even a
big even if somebody that's just an
example of one of the even if somebody
where the der is not the marulus because
people used to be marulus even then
you're going to be what's the even why
is that a big I thought the dal
No matter which it is, whether it's
the reason is because the way they used
to worship was
they would throw stones in it.
People worshiped. So I would have
thought that
people worship in even though people
don't worship this but at least it's
it's an that people worship.
said I learned from this from this is
extra to teach me this that even though
that people worship
but if somebody
being that it's one of the
is going to be bottom line is I can't
use
to tell me
that
I need this for to teach me
that if somebody
he does one of the even that people
usually worship it's not
says
let's see it inside
said
he explains the Gmorra is that if all
the wanted to tell me was
it would have just said
the word would be extra it didn't have
to say in being that it says
it teaches me to number one
going backwards and number two moving
forward it's
as we just mentioned says the
I still need this I for something else
for the following
who says who
is. So what does mean says
so the first six of
is describing somebody that
where the carbon somebody was
and was
meaning there were times in history
where Jews were actually allowed to
bring carbon the sh the wholeer of is
all predicated on you're not allowed to
bring a carbon outside of the mikt I
what happened to the parish of isn't
that what a bum what was a bum there was
a bum which wasn't in the mikdash and
then there were kanis that people were
able to have different carbonas you
could bring you can't different nuances
that's the last parag
deals with a lot of but the bottom line
is there's a concept of abama and the
concept of at first glance would seem to
be a contradiction to the is of how do
you reconcile these two things how do
you have a par of which is
it's horrible it's
But then there's the terret is the only
applies when there was an when there was
a hat. So it says to that before this
I would have thought that the only time
there's an issue
says again
and
and Rashi says that really this part of
the price it wasn't of anything all the
need to say is that those that teach us
and I would assume is referring to where
everything happened
and
but from that
I know that this is true
Because the says
that
meaning even that I was
still
Meaning the
is coming to tell me it's coming to tell
me that this is not only true for
someone that was
but even if you
not
but even if you
doesn't matter as long as you that's
enough to tell me that you're going to
either way the price continues and the
price says
when It says in the
I would have thought there should be
someone that
when he was
the end of the and we learned from there
say that's the that's the but there's
not going to be a of course but bottom
line what do you see from a long-winded.
The bottom line is the Bryce has said
that when it says in the
it's a that's coming to teach me that
not only is there if somebody's
but even if someone was
as long as
that's enough that this should be bottom
line is
coming to tell me true in the
but not for the classic case of not for
the case where you
but rather
how do I know there's
maybe there's only going to be if I was
again the the begins with
basically one or two clearly implying
that if somebody or is
he's going to
First glance you'd say of course it says
in the
if you do amaze it. So doesn't that mean
if you do that there's going to be says
no because there's a rule
and says that that means as it relates
to the carbon the only time there's a if
there's an
I don't have an aar anywhere. So says I
found the it says
and even though the is involved in the
time of the why doesn't but at the end
of the day it says that says written all
over it. So you have a over here that
teaches me that there's going to be anor
means that if you give me says one
second I need to teach me
says true but there's two
it didn't have to say
so there's two one is regarding
the other one is in the laws of
says because the truth I found Bryce
like what you just said I have a Bryce
that says
but that Bryce says it's referring to
where that I was
how do I know if I was so that's where
we're stuck how do I know if someone's
an animal is and then he is I know this
car is because the doesn't distinguish
between where the heck was if anything
it's more that you
but that
is already on the part of the parachute
that's discussing.
Now at first glance you're going to say
if I was
as long
and it's a reason it's such a fest is
because that said that those are talking
about where Head to said that if you
head to and you do the nois all there is
is so
and you're
where there's no still there's an
so if I
where there's certainly there has to be
an this is a par how do I know that I
know that from
So here with his there certainly has to
be a
raashi
and we'll speak out great about this
matabas as well but just those words
but either way
what's the whatever
if you're going to use this logic if
you're going to use this logic
it shouldn't have said
And I should have known
if you're going to work with such a
logic that I could ask you a bunch of
cautious as the is going to ask right
now. Why have to say why did have to say
that you're not allowed to eat is a part
of the animal that's not kosher even if
did it still it's off limits you're not
allowed to eat the why is to say that I
cannot make from if somebody eats
if somebody eats it's a regular
has an
right
doesn't have his still
there is of
also
So came to say he told him
no you can't learn from the why because
even though is more than because has
cars doesn't have cars but I can tell
you there's something called we learn
those together
but we know is mama is not mama so mean
that is not even of is not mama so if is
not mama and is mama
So maybe because you find this in the
parish of the that this in that vein
that you have this as well
maybe not but the says okay I could
learn it from the from the
why can I learn from the
that
there's no still what's the if you eat
it there's an
certainly there should be
says the word is is really an extra
word. The point is same same
and by definition are to and bring that
to it's for that reason that maybe you
have this that there's an azar as well
as opposed to which even though there's
a there's a but that there's no maybe
there's no azar now there is an azar but
that's why the had to write the azar I
wouldn't necessarily know it what about
from there
maybe learn it from there but
also have
maybe learn from also there's no
why have to write why can I learn it
and
so you don't have the
previously said
that's what learn it from
says
has a that once something has if you
sell it the money that you get in
exchange for the now has the you sell
the money doesn't become right how about
truma truma is not
you don't find anywhere that should be
as opposed to you do find should be
because of is only if it's
once that's the
but once you find this has so I can
already say that all these are you don't
find anywhere that they should ever be
you find
of that's
the bottom line is
it's not a meaning we wanted to say that
once I know once I know that there's a
for you
where there's no carus certainly there
should be an if you
where there is an issue Meaning if this
is certainly there should be an it means
it's more if that's the case why you
need
learn it out from all
it's only true it's not true from but it
doesn't necessarily mean that the logic
of the is not a good logic but I'll tell
you what does boarily
But the mission says even if someone
doesn't bring the carbon
but at the same time there's no why
because there's no
even though the didn't mention why can't
I learn
from which is
interesting
if somebody eats
So we mean if somebody performs the act
of being he left over from a garbage
there's an at the same time there's no
you do have it
now why we're bringing from there's no
other that you could have picked the
bottom place on the oven
because you would have thought
ordinarily You would say maybe you can't
learn from a regular voice say because
doesn't involve a right how you
by not doing how you by not bringing the
garba. So you would have thought that
being that it doesn't involve a mess.
Maybe that's why there's there's no you
can't bring a raya from a a regular even
though that has a cooler that there's no
cars because it has a it involves a so
we're just picking the that's
right over it by not eating it. Point is
is
so that bothers me. Again, if you're
going to tell me you can learn up an
from and that's how you want to have the
then should always be because even
though there's no why can't I learn the
from the
t there's no way to undo it now there's
a ton you can burn it which makes it a
but there's no tak
in terms of how to make it that you are
also you could always do so you can't
learn it even from that you can't learn
from therefore you have no limit so
what's the bottom line the digress but
the bottom line is we started off which
begins
it's two parts to the para the first
part is somebody
the second part of it is somebody is
we're going to see it's the next that
The Gmorrah has where we learn if
somebody does and it's not just
it's going to be later but the bottom
line is is that for now if somebody
that's the first par that's second par
the gives a time of the which we'll have
to speak about
it's somehow related to the
Mishna said that these that
are examples
should bear
didn't understand why because there's a
rule of
just like there's no so there's no there
shouldn't be a go through the par
there's no
even though there's no inac
but there's no parac
said that no that
even though it's not an that's the and
that's an that's the missing piece and
that's how knew
you're going to be but dad I need that
to teach me that if someone even though
it's like even though that people used
to worship so there's two so it's a that
really is not an azor but we took two
out of it
one backwards one forward bottom line is
one is coming to teach me but thear said
that says it's
only
now
and where we left off right now is that
even though you tell me
for someone that
which we saw in that same B so there's
no for then certainly if somebody's
that definitely only mean that there's a
that there's an azor but the garra
proved after a whole lot of you can't
make a from because if that's the case
maybe bottom line is that's where that's
where we're stuck now there do we could
we learn from kabr could we not learn
from kabr is going to pick up net hashem
on the Next star.