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One, two, three, go.
>> We have this thrilling station. She came
to us now. She's shabas.
>> You involved kur. You support kur. It's
carm. Your mission is to prevent the
hurban. This is one of the best grills
you can find ever. You make of one. You
invest in one. That's one. All the
mitzvah going to go to you. The best
majority of the of the Eden are
disappearing. Kov is number one place
for the mitzvah. We're here on Forest
Avenue in Staten Island and we have here
exhibit J. We have Abdu Shandelov. How
are you?
How are you?
>> So take us in. Show us what exhibit J is
all about.
>> Okay, let's go.
>> First, I see you have a lot of pictures
on the wall already showing people
what's going on over here.
Events for boys, for girls, London.
Israel.
That's our new center here. Just
renovated, moved in. Before we were in
different shows, now our new place. We
already outgrew it.
>> So, this is our new place.
>> Our new place.
>> Wow. It looks amazing.
>> Thank you.
>> And um let's hear first a little bit
about the what's the situation of the
yen in Staten Island? How many secular
Eden are living in Stat? Um, no one
really knows the number, exact number,
but it's around 40,000 for sure, 40,000
secular Eden. Um, most of them are
Russian Jews, some Israelis, some
Americans, but about 40,000 even that
completely disconnected.
>> Wow. And like what's the percentage of
the of them that they intermar?
>> Oh, that's a that's a very unfortunate
thing here in St. Melan. Um, the number
is probably close to 90%. which means
only 10% survive.
>> Wow. 10 90% get intermarried. There a
lot of wonderful Italians here and they
love Jews unfortunately and that's what
happens here. So it's a real real fight
to to save them to get them back.
>> Wow. So first let's see. Let me I see
you have a ping pong table.
>> Oh yeah.
>> So you make it fun for the people to
come over here. Let's see if you know
how to play ping. Let's see if the rabbi
by the way. You think a rabbi has to
know how to play the game or just play
to get connected with the student a I
need to I need to be able to win them.
If I don't win, they're going to think
I'm like I'm a loser.
>> Let's see. Okay. One, two, three, go.
>> You see right there?
>> I lost.
>> Wow. Okay. So, you don't just um give
the speeches. You really connect with
the
>> Yeah. With the students.
>> It's not just me. We have a big team of
uh our staff uh rebbitons.
We have a lot of volunteers. Community
is very much involved in everything we
do here. What do you see since October
7? Oh, let's pick up the both. What do
you see since October 7 that people are
people more interested in coming here or
less?
>> Uh, after October 7th was a major uptick
in interest. Um, I I have a business and
I had to downsize my business around
October October 17. I downsized my
business to fully focus on Kira here.
>> Oh, wow. Because it became more busy.
>> Yeah, it's busy. There's people were
interested. Why? Why is it
>> the real real reason? I think because
people lost friends and community. Now
they have like the best friends not on
the Israeli side and they now now they
they're not part of their circles
anymore, the friend circle anymore. So
now like what what's what's next?
They're looking for community, looking
for family. Uh we have people that lost
their best friends overnight and then
they came to us like I want I think it's
time for me to go to my my brothers and
sisters to go to to
>> but we need they feel family
comfortable.
>> Yeah. Yeah. They kind of knew about it.
They felt it but they never did it and
this kind of gave them very strong
strong push to come and explore. So
basically the the first step was just to
feel belonging to feel like there was a
fear in in the world and it's still same
it's not nothing changed much little bit
change but not much anti-semitism is
still strong they feel
>> closer they feel warm warm together
family together so that's why they come
and they bring their friends uh we at I
think we just we at least quadrupled our
our staff impact our budget within those
few years for this reason to give them
as much as we can
>> I think it's also because they think
like why why is everybody hating us so
much? Must be something is in it.
>> Yeah, for sure. For sure. This was a big
question asking and uh they realized
that the only place they can find is
probably something Jewish. They could
come to us and get the answers.
>> So tell me a little bit more about the
programs. What type of programs do you
do here on a typical day?
>> Oh, we have just this week we have a
program after program after program. Uh
so so we have a
>> let's I see here the painting. Maybe
tell me a little about this painting.
>> This was just uh two days ago. Uh we
have the girl uh monthly ladies night
out. So we have a that's the someone was
sitting with the girls showing them how
to how to make this beautiful things and
to to connect paint night
>> and you said you do it with peers. So
it's like they come
>> they were sitting here like they were
like the whole place was full of girls a
lot of uh our girls and people from from
the community local community girls same
age similar age with them and they would
talk to each other and they said you
know what this this girl was like she's
from she has good life she's nice she's
amazing I also want one like her they
become friends that's the best k instead
of rabies rabbit is trying to do
something let do it to each other
>> maybe tell me a little bit your history
and how is different Kur today like I I
know people look at kur like uh they
think of certain some yeshivas where
they in the in the past they used to
teach like we're going to prove that
there is a god and that's how they'll
make the car. How is that? Tell me a
little bit about your history and about
how it's different today.
>> Okay. So um al regular office
>> my history is so I I was born in former
Soviet Union was still Soviet Union
communist Russia and then im immigrated
from Soviet Union from Russia after it
collapsed to to Germany I became from
myself in Germany I started youth center
when I was 18 years old.
>> Oh wow.
>> And I was one of those products of cure
myself of my my own my own cure.
>> So you have experience of yourself. Wow.
>> Oh yeah for sure. So from 1998
>> thank God till now and uh that's how we
started and eventually I went to
yeshivas and America Berlin different
places different places and uh somehow
said I'm here instead
>> wow so how is it different the than
today
>> uh it always changes it always changes
there are in in my own understanding
there are three big kufus that changed
uh my parents generation
It was you prove God exist. Hashem is
real. Torah is real. Okay. Rabbi have no
choice. I going to start keeping Shabas.
It's over. My generation when I was in
90 early 90s. Uh it was more meaningful
like show me meaning purpose. It's more
hard. First it was moy and went down to
the to the lake to the heart and like
you show me it's purposeful. It's
meaningful. I'll do it. It was like like
a starting point entry point. Nowadays
boy goes with the
>> it goes in the book.
What do you mean like they come for
shabas food is good the families have
such wonderful buys I mean different
levels but compared to what they have
they have no shamilies
husband talks to the wife parents talk
to children talk to parents no one's on
the phone on show
>> we don't realize what we have
>> yeah we have we have treasure chest like
right here in in our backyard so they
come and it's like wow I want this not
about meaning not about purpose not
about proofs it's just like I want to
have a good life
>> oh it's not even about meaning in life.
It's just about a good life.
>> Oh, a good life. Right. No, once they
they get into this, they see like this
the Torah is relevant. The mitzvah makes
sense. The the Torah is like so
beautiful and so like real like and
relevant to what for my my life, then
they say it feels it feels right and it
makes sense as well.
>> It's a different stages.
>> Very interesting. Let me hear about the
library. What is this? Is this um they
read it over here. What do they do with
this?
>> So this No. Uh so this is like uh one
and two. These two two parts are you can
borrow a book and take home read back
whenever you want. Just register here.
This part is very unique very exciting
one. If you if you like any of the books
here say permission to receive. Oh this
actually this very popular one
what angel taught me taught you. So so
they can take one book home and build
their own library. So we have an event
we put books on the on the table
>> and people can choose take one book it's
going to be yours
>> and then slowly but surely whenever they
have time they can look at it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We encourage them to
read it like put on your bedside table
and hope one day they'll read it people
actually read it and change the likes
because of this uh
>> very interesting project. So you have a
library they could read they could
borrow or they could take one this one
they could take a present. Wow.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um let me ask you how
>> one more cool thing if you want to see
actually we have this filling station.
So we have a Sephardic for right-handed,
we have a uh the Ashkanaz right-handed,
Sephardic left-handed and Ashkanaz
they come here with with the re and they
can put on film as well.
>> Interesting question. If they're coming
if they if they're becoming now about
which which one do they start putting on
or
>> depends who they are?
>> How do you get um how do you reach out
to people? How do people hear about
exhibit J? That's a great question. Uh
main source of of uh uh people coming to
us is word of mouth.
I started 12 years ago with one student,
then she brought another person and then
eventually word of mouth definitely.
>> So there are happy people that come here
and they're happy from the information.
>> They bring their siblings, bring their
friends to us. Uh and we have people
that work for our uh so social social
media. Uh I'm not very professionally
involved there where people are actually
involved on on social media uh marketing
direct outreach like they found people
that look Jewish to say hey I'm Jewish
and they
>> oh they found like Jewish names and
Jewish people looking at let's say they
go some Jewish kind of event or they
went to Israel okay Israel said and they
reach out to them and and get
>> they do real k outreach they try to find
people and
>> get them from the streets get them from
the streets we have another thing what
we do this the other parts of social
media is where students not there but
their parents are there so so we have we
have a information over there. Her
parents and the parents sent send the
kids to us. It's one girl uh she came to
us one of our social events her father
sent to us just go find find your
husband.
>> Oh wow.
>> She came to us now she's show us.
>> Oh wow. So sometimes the parents send
their kids they want their kids.
>> Yeah. Depends different part of social
media like we're trying whatever it
takes. We also used to have program
trying to do more of this for for
parents parents age. They come to us
they see what we do. I like it and we
have quite a few of our students came
because of the parents
>> and oh you're saying sometimes the
parents could also come because of the
because of the kids
>> and yeah it goes both ways goes both
ways
>> you live near a proven Frankenstein um
>> yeah yeah that's my community
>> what does he say about this uh about
this organization
>> oh he's a something very very powerful
uh few years ago I asked him what's the
what's what's the mission of exhib
what's our mission here and he told me
that your mission is to prevent the
hurban
I'm like, what is do you mean? What do
you mean? I'm just like this Russian guy
barely speak English. Now it's better.
But back then I would barely speak
English. I know what I'm doing. And I
can't You're
>> doing good. You're speaking nicely.
>> Yeah. Like many years back later. Uh but
uh you have to prevent the I'm like what
is it? It says when you didn't work was
not a major
20% came out 80% disappeared. So now we
are even in the worst mats. The amount
of psycho rhythm, the completely
disconnected brothers and sisters, it's
like a crazy amount. Now we are very
close to our own we is on the way. He
told me is on the way and we have to do
something about it. We can't make them
disappear. H and I'm like okay thank you
for such a major mission to give to me
but how can I do it on my own? And he
says first of all you shouldn't worry
about it. So Elio Hanov is involved with
us like he's doing he's doing here and I
saw so many miracles like
they happen daily basis. I see them like
definitely on weekly by daily basis. Wow
>> how it happens. So that's that's always
definitely that's our mission and we'll
be to whatever degree we we have to be.
>> What's the success level like? What's
the success rate of people that you get
to come here?
>> Um so that's a very good question.
Excellent question. So
>> first let me see. I heard you got a new
grill over here for your events. Let's
see.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. That's true. This is
before they really want to see our most
most popular beverage station.
>> Fancy coffee here. Like really fancy.
>> Very nice coffee.
>> Everything is beautifully neat.
>> Beautiful. All new.
>> Wow.
>> And we have a a lot of Russians love hot
tea. They have like boiling water here.
Boiling water. It's right here. Don't
need anything. Ready for refill the
water. We have We have drinks. Now it's
not refill. We refill them. We have like
some snacks.
>> I see you have wine also. Don't don't
tell others. Yeah, we have anybody.
>> No, no, definitely.
>> Thank god.
>> Wow. It's fully set up. Nice stuff.
>> Yeah. So, we have a little kitchenet
here. Still have organ. We have like
nice uh fridge with stuff.
>> You see, we have a stack for for
barbecues.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Don't look at the whiskey. It's also
important for for cure a little bit.
Oh, it's raining. It's okay. So, this is
very very cool. This is one of our most
coolest thing. This is one of the best
grills you can find ever. We take care
of our students. You might want to make
sure they get
>> they get
>> This is a big
>> This is a serious deal.
>> Two. There are fridges here. Like it's
the whole thing.
>> Wow.
>> Uh when we have barbecues, this place is
packed. It's packed. They want to go on
the roof. We have to tell them, "Guys,
get out of the roof because it's like
it's not it's not safe anymore."
>> Wow.
>> Go here. It's packed place. They
connect. They enjoy themselves. And uh
thank god we have a very good good good
barbecues.
>> If the campaign will raise enough money
you'll be able to make a more grills for
strate
will cover with Hashem's help 75% of the
entire budget. So whatever people we
raise at this campaign whatever people
give each dollar goes for the entire
year.
>> It's a big big big thing for the trips
for the events for the rabbits
everything.
>> You um you do a trip to Poland once a
year.
>> Uh yeah. Yeah. This is one of the best
uh transformational experiences that
that we give here.
>> What they go by the concentration camps?
>> Yeah. Yeah. We go to to different
wars
to eleions.
We go everywhere like all important
places awitz. Um and what we show them
we don't want people get Jewish pride
from going to this to this uh uh uh
trips to Poland. It's not our goal.
Jewish pride happens as well. Our goal
is to show them that when the during
holocaust there were so many people they
were heroes they were keeping Shabas
they went filling during despite all the
Nazis in so we showed them we learned
about different
>> people stayed with the Yiddish guy
despite all the craziness like in the
middle of of this gay
>> wow
>> and they by the end of the trip the
students like wow if they did it under
those circumstances we can do it and end
of the trip we asked them to make
commitments and they commit and people
started doing many mitzvah just for the
for this experience seven eight days
pack we give them two days in Prague
like to make like light more exciting
because like very heavy it's heavy and
very exciting we dance we get I get out
out of camping over there we dance I'm
like wow that's like so many emotions it
changes their lives
>> wow what's the story about the about the
the girl that got uh that got married in
France
>> oh so so was one student uh so one
student called me was actually a little
bit different. So one guy, one of my
students calls me and he says, "I'm on
the way to to France now to to propose
to my girl, my girlfriend." And he says,
"Why am I calling you now?" Says, "Only
my parents know about it and you know
about it." Says, "Because I am going to
she's I would never have dreamt to date
Jewish girl." It's from intermed
to date Jewish girl is because of exhib.
So I'm called you for you to know I'm
going to do it in a few weeks.
>> I was just just uh a month at this and
his parents came over to me and they
secular Russian Jews they came over to
me and say thank you so much for putting
our son on the right path. I'm like wow
that's interesting here like they don't
they're not like from and I told him you
should just know your son won the
lottery.
>> Wow.
>> It's if I mean 10% is better lottery but
10% is a it's a scary scary number only
10% chance and he he's in that number.
>> Wow. CBJ does change the number. We do
change the number. We have to fight much
harder.
>> Oh, let's go back to the question I
asked you before about the success rate.
So people ask what's the success rate?
So first, what's your main goal of a
person that comes here and what's the
success rate?
>> Okay, so we have different levels. We
shoot for the stars when once when when
a boy girl come to us from the street
goas to I look I look at at them as
what's going to be to your
grandchildren. We want to make sure your
grandkids gonna be super from excited
for each and be fully integrated in in
the in the in the community. So the goal
is to go from zero to 100
>> 100 how it's process change requires
requires time and it's process um that's
highest goal
we have those people quite a few of them
now
almost everyone who comes to us it's
100% success because at different levels
someone comes to us and says you know
what I I like the Jewish people it's not
so strange and they come to our events
when their kids going to decide to
explore this this this path they're not
going to be fighting against them.
That's first one level. That level I I
actually I don't want to uh date go
anymore. I going to they're Jewish now.
Another person starts putting feel on
daily basis. We have those people as
well. Quite a few of those people,
right? So the success rate depends like
everyone's being touched. If you want to
see that be people being touched,
they're going to change in certain
different levels. That's for sure. It's
like close to like maybe 90% success
rate. Now to get to highest level
definitely not. It takes time. Some
people come to us and they start in
filling started doing some other mitzvah
or starting Torah. We have people doing
Torah like on weekly basis they're not
true yet
brings them brings them back. It takes
10 years takes 20 years. I've been doing
it for many years. I've been doing this
for since 1998. So still Europe. So
Germany and and I see people that with
didn't see any hope in them. 10 years
later 20 years later now they build huge
families.
>> Wow. So you're saying that even if it's
not such a a big amount, there are some
people that goes from zero to 100, but
everybody else is going up a level and
it could it could affect the other
people their their generations
>> affects them also affects their friends.
They do a little bit and they tell their
friends that friends get interested
their friends become it's like brings
the other one.
>> Yes. The whole like team effort.
>> What's the sigula if somebody first of
all let me see I see you have updated
equipment over here. You have
state-ofthe-art stuff. What do you show?
Oh, we spoke about do you show here the
proof that there's a that the toilet is
right.
>> No, not proof but whatever whatever
needs to be shown. We have this nice
professional screens whatever they need
>> professional good equipment everything
we want to show is a top level we invest
a lot of money to renovate this place
beautifully. We have a great AC we have
actually just put split split system
unit. This is very great for our
students.
>> Well, everything is top
>> everything. Yeah, we don't save money on
giving kids students best experiences
when they come here and they stay here.
It's still not full there. We're going
to do more
>> even more.
>> Yeah, we just started. We just just just
started.
>> What's the What's the sigula of the of
helping of helping doing kurif?
>> Um I think there are more more than one
cigula. So once ago I just saw not long
ago from um
at the very beginning of you can see
like the first the first
and it says
it's
that's
>> you involve kov you support kir it's
carbalashem the second part of the post
talks about you bring behema you bring
this and this kind of animals to for
carbon that's for for everyone else for
most people not if not ze to go to that
level of being involved in kira okay
okay they have to bring kmanos because
if you do kov you help other other unit
>> it's even more than a kb
>> it's more than a carbon and he says at
the end of that of that he says
>> it's only minor people for this for this
civil minor people because it's not it's
not so exciting it's not so attracting
attractive but this is like where gold
is the another one I I saw
Alas he says Um he says that you cannot
re reach the level of someone who is
involved in kuru the level is higher
than of the higher or the same level to
check of like
there's a level you get why this is one
reasons you make of one you invest in
one that's one all the mitzvah going to
go to you.
>> Wow.
>> So you might not like see like much of
your own growth but it goes all to you.
>> Wow. So all the mitz that person is
going to do goes along with this.
>> Yes. You you give little little money
for for for this for this for this year
and you just never know how much you get
from this.
>> It's very interesting everything that
you're telling me because some people
live like you said you told me before
like some people living in a bubble like
they're living let's say in Brooklyn and
Staten Island wherever they're living in
Israel and they see so many um
religious people. It looks like it looks
like most Eden are religious but really
it's a it's a
>> yeah it's an illusion. We we live in the
bubble in our from communities which is
beautiful because that's we want to stay
strong for our kids give them great
upbringing but mitus is is the best
majority of the of the Eden are
disappearing it's like dying talking
spiritual just disappearing it's a
spiritual holocaust it's worse than in
numbers wor physical holocaust which
happened to Eden
>> wow
>> um so that's that's a challenge we don't
see it and that's why I had a very hard
time to to get people in invested
to invest in in cur because like what's
curve like it's not an idea it's not an
idea like they're real people out there
and they've been changed if if you give
them something just connect the pin
youth the main name of the game is pin
youth and connect to pal youth give them
little that's it they wake up they wake
up
>> and once these people are lost then
they're lost
>> they're lost forever yeah yeah for sure
it was one one I forgot the name I have
to check the name someone I saw big big
name uh he says that he he feels the cur
is number one place expert talker he
says I have to check the name I can I
can check it soon number one why he says
if one call closed down so they didn't
go to another call to not use sh
>> I mean I'm a call I love to be every
morning
>> but if you close down one organization
or don't give enough funation they can
couldn't reach out to more people they
lost forever they're not going to come
to another organization that's it they
lost
>> wow
>> so that's that's it's a definitely in
terms of the what to massive
>> everything is important but but it's
it's it's
It's
I mean
for sure my
from dying from London. So he told me
it's a it's a
nefes old one.
>> Wow. All the special one.
>> Yeah. Because they they they're lost.
>> What's the story you were telling me
before also by Shashidis? First of all,
how many people coming by Shal it's a
big event by Shalid?
>> Yeah it depends but usually we have a it
depends. We have a from small from 5 10
to 25 people. So whatever different
different.
>> So what was the question you you posted
them?
>> So I asked my students who here wants to
marry Jewish was the first question.
Everyone everyone wants to marry Jewish.
Everyone from from the street all most
of them were not connected to anything
Jewish. And one actually one one girl
tells us uh she's second generation
Russian Jew here. So she says before
exhibit J I wanted to I wanted to marry
Russian and it will be Jewish. Okay.
It's cherry on top. It's also good. Um,
and now needs to be Jewish. And if it's
Russian, it's also good.
>> Wow. Very interesting.
>> And then I asked them, I as the
students, okay, fine. Now you you are
you good to go. You'll be you'll marry
Jewish. Amazing. One part of success is
here. What about how do you make sure
that your your grandkids going to marry
Jewish or your kids going to marry
Jewish? How you going to make sure
you're going to have Jewish grandkids?
You know what he told me? They didn't
know first answer. They try to figure
out and they said the only way for them
to to also marry Jewish is if we are
going to be passionate about our own
Yiddish about to be proud Jews like why
would they do it like there's so many
distractions there's so many things out
there like Yiddish should be exciting
for you the only way to make it exciting
if invest in themselves so that's what
we're doing is we make our our pint Eden
excited about their own credit and they
themselves grow and hopefully
generations to come is going to be major
major impact one youth We're talking
about hundreds and hundreds of people
different from for now.
>> So we're going to say the information
where um where people could donate. Let
me just ask you. I'm just thinking now
interesting question. Is it the same
kurv for people that are becoming bou
the same as as people that were born
from and going and and went over the is
the same type of k or totally different?
>> Very very different. It happened to be
we have quite a few students that came
to us like of the d and uh we usually
try not to mix them with other separate
a separate type of
>> usually they became from you would not
know who they are from our own own
communities like some of people that you
you know and you don't
>> you could help them also but it's a
separate type
>> they could help the way to do of the d
the way we do is just love and
acceptance because it's emotional thing
often times people go
>> they know already what's right
>> they know just it's emotional Our
students are clueless. They the um the
what's
called the tom they completely like
they're so like they don't know anything
>> and you if you put in the same room
someone who's all there together with
them it's not good it's not good match
because they're going to give all the
trauma all the challenges like there
there's no point so we try not to not to
mix the workshop right now some there
are people in Israel different parts the
room regular from families because of
exhibit room but that's not what we were
doing. Okay, I see you have your
comfortable chair. Let's sit down and
give the information um where where
people could donate. You have the links
handy. You know the information or we'll
just put on the screen on the
description.
>> We can do on the screen and you could
hish old fashioned way.
>> Okay.
>> You do charity
sh
Wow, that's nice cops you give out to
people muggs.
>> Yeah. By the way, I I would like to give
presents.
>> Okay,
>> that's for you. We'll put it in the
status island office to remember about
the kiff that you
>> charity.com
EJ EJ's exhibit J
>> charity.comj easy link
>> easy go there
>> charity.com/ej
you could go there and what if somebody
that's listening to this if somebody
wants to if somebody that's interested
in becoming a more yiddish I you never
know where you put we put it on so many
platforms whoever sees it if they're
interested what's the website for um
>> the website this should go to
>> or if somebody wants to be a mentor or
something.
>> We're looking for mentors,
>> volunteer peers,
>> host for shabas.
>> Oh, you do that also. Hosting
>> community. We want communities is very
much important for for cure here. People
come to this shabas. We're going to pic
group most of times when will in initi
volunteers men just to come to talk to
for the for men to talk to our boys
teach our boys some Torah is like a
foundation that you saw this like um so
what's the website?
>> So exhibit exhibit
j.org.
>> Okay, perfect. When is the campaign
running? People could give could donate
already now, right? They could get grab
this,
>> of course.
>> And still Sunday and Monday.
>> July 12th, 13 is like it's going to go
wild and crazy and exciting.
>> That's when it's okay.
>> Getting live, but it's live now.
Unofficial live. So, you just start now.
Why not?
>> Wow.
>> Okay.
You should have a lot of to do all the
and I hope all the followers all the
people watching will grab this. It's a
it's a everything that we spoke about.
Thank you so much.