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Interesting, we find now that most of
our clients that come in the door now
this can already come with the Bible of
application. Okay?
>> I found it decent, right?
>> The one thing they have all in common,
it works. The another thing they have in
common, they're all extremely unsecure.
So, basically what's happening is that
the front they're even more
>> Give me an example of
>> I'll give you an example. We had
actually client that is a specific
insurance industry, very regulated,
extremely sensitive data. And his
20-year-old son
by quarter of a mass application in the
front that's sitting in the rule of law.
The front The front end is amazing. And
the guys at EBJ's have to give it a more
crush about it, but the focus was one
focus.
Works or it doesn't work. Yes, it does
what it's supposed to do. But what
didn't they think for a second is, wait
a second, what happens, how easily can
someone bypass the username and
password? The same principles that used
to apply 5 years ago still apply. It's
just not from this space. What ended up
happening is that technology has been
liberated. So, back in the days he has
to He has to be able to write, okay,
semicolon or bracket is not to A,
whatever. You'll be able to write code.
That went away. You could write
something from English and the code is
being generated for you. But what didn't
change is underlying principles. And
it's not hard to fix it, but you got to
be conscious about it. For example, in
this case, we found that he built in
Yes, you have to have a username and
password and multi-factor to actually
sign in. But what he didn't do is that
the front end when he went to
www.insurance.com whatever, it asked you
for a password, but I can connect to the
database without a password.
Zero, no password. Meaning it's open to
the world. So, is it not secure? Yes,
there's ways to secure it. Should you
not do it? Yes, you should absolutely do
it. But do it right. The same old
principles that applied 5 years ago
still apply today. They did not go away.
So, when an end user, an individual
that's not in this space, not in this
line, buys an application, 99% of the
time at least 100% of what I've seen so
far, it is absolutely not secure.
Doesn't mean you can't fix it, but it
needs to be fixed.
>> You're the big He's behind He's behind
the scenes. He's not behind the camera.
Now he's behind the scenes, behind the
camera.
>> I'm minutes away from coming.
I'm trying to call you out. I don't know
if you can see if you can. So,
if everyone writes
>> Um I had a hotel where I landed with the
airplane landed and I had to call the
hotel to pick me up from the airport.
So, it called before my flight to
reserve the the pick up. Um, it's fine.
It actually with a conversation and I
asked actually to review the
conversation. So, the conversation
>> He sent you the recording that way.
>> It sent me the recording and I see the
conversation started in English. The guy
in the other line replied in Greek. Um,
talking to someone else. So, it started
the conversation in Greek and finished
the conversation actually Greek.
Um,
and then I told them like once I land,
so my flight and my plane, once I land
call the hotel that I landed and they'll
pick me up.
So, I landed I didn't have service like
I didn't have service for 15 minutes.
The first 15 minutes of the you get out
and I didn't know if they called or not.
And then
the second I got service I got a call
from the hotel. We're waiting outside
already. Where are you? Like I said
How do you know? Oh, someone called us
15 minutes ago that you landed already.
So, I was still before security. They
had to leave. So, they had to leave
>> Um, for example, I wanted to
lower my Optimum bill. I saw they had a
promotion. So, I told I gave I printed
out
I downloaded an invoice from Optimum
which has my basic information from my
Optimum account and my PIN. I gave it to
the guy at the desk I said, just have I
said, call them up, argue with them.
Here's my information. Now, it's
intentional. My Optimum bill I would be
okay putting down in the in the airport.
That's what I gave them. That's enough
for them to call up Optimum to argue
with them on on the phone for 50 minutes
and then tell me that okay, we'll lower
it to $10 a month. All right? And that's
it. Nothing.
Um,
>> It's cancelled.
It goes on the on the camera.
It goes on camera what? I heard you say
your face goes on camera. Like you
actually do reversing and actually show
your face now. It's like your whole
fancy blogger and stuff.
You have a few mad kids racing now,
right? Don't worry, right?
>> [laughter]
>> That's the handsome
Okay.
Okay. that doesn't make sense to me.
They are experts in public BS.
>> [laughter]
>> Wow.
in Lake Forest
So other end.
>> Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Hold on. How's it working this?
>> So, am I now famous because I'm on both
of
>> You're extremely famous.
>> No,
now I'm famous.
>> Sam, say something but you can't
>> Yeah, now two people are on.
>> What do you want to say?
>> MDY, say something.
>> Say something.
>> Who's with them right now? Because this
is really
>> [laughter]
[laughter]
>> MDY, say something. [laughter] Say
something.
Guys, you want to see what bloggers
looks like? This This No, no, no.
[laughter]
This is what bloggers looks like, right?
This is the other end. This is the other
end.
This is the other end. Where do we put
the
>> I'm famous because I'm a very famous
person.
>> [laughter]
>> Now I'm famous.
>> The sandal. These guys are shadows in
the dark.
>> No, I was saying that Positive is very
interesting because they're a company
that they have always been advanced
doing cybersecurity. And today with all
the AI, everyone is using AI on their
phone and stuff like that. Do you attach
your company email to it? Do you not?
So, they had an event just now. I was I
was honored that they invited me to to
host and moderate it. Three members of
the team, including Jacob, the the one
of the one of the owners. And it really
was something that had helped Cloudways
so because they use, "Hey, can you do
this? Can you do that?" Jacob is doing
Jacob a minute. He's right here.
>> Jacob is a
>> He has a Jewish name also, by the way.
Don't tell anybody. What's the Jewish
name for the alum?
>> Anytime I actually anyone who says
I'll say in English, "Hi, Mr. Yab."
I don't Jacob, what was the Yiddish
name, y'all?
>> Yankel Meyer.
Exactly.
>> Yeah.
If you can't pronounce it, don't do
business with me.
with name Kiffin the
with new beginners, with new lesser
companies.
>> It's got
>> Yeah, actually what they did here was a
very big service applied so because a
lot of people have AI is very unknown,
right? So, you could talk about this.
They don't know what like, "Hey, do I
use it? Do I not? Can I touch
>> Known and unknown.
>> Correct.
>> So, that I mean
>> But everyone is nervous for one of two
things. They're nervous to use it.
They're nervous not to use it. Everyone
is nervous everything. Everyone is busy
with that. So, I thought what we did was
a very big tail as both of your clients
have rather people, right? That's why
you put on this event.
>> Yeah. So, I'll I'll tell you what
So, the mom is depressed and
going
to show
you
getting up to speed. I'm going to lose.
Now this does This might just be secure.
So my chance
is it's not doing it. So it's dangerous.
But they get nice and securely. So in
some of the other companies
small business start up businesses extra
division establishing growing
businesses. Same as with AI. Every
company had the other level of
implementation.
Above the show focus on
AI and
extra the small business start up
businesses and establishing growing
businesses.
You don't have to need all of this.
Some budgets are out of the question. So
Keep it up.
What I'm going to say is that you have a
company with a bunch of guys and they
actually understand what you're doing.
It's not like some random guy who thinks
doesn't get you. They're guys and they
get what they're doing. You know, one of
the things I was saying to my friend is
that I can I thought to myself a lot of
people use Instinct on their phone,
right? Everyone knows Instinct Instinct,
but you can't communicate on WhatsApp
with Instinct because it's a separate
number. It doesn't go through. So what I
did was I bought a cheap phone. I bought
a WhatsApp number. I gave Instinct
access to that number and now I can add
it to different WhatsApp groups and it
can communicate [clears throat] for me.
I can have Instinct reach out to people
because it's a separate number.
Instinct's own number. Matter of fact, I
want to buy this app called Tab. You
heard of Tab? Tab is also there.
>> I believe that was
>> Tab makes phone calls, right?
>> Yeah.
>> So I actually spoke to the owner of Tab
rather today. I I spoke back and forth
because I wanted to figure out if it's
secure and stuff like that. So I said
how you can have actually Instinct make
calls via Tab. Why? You have your
separate number. It has its own Tab and
makes calls. Anyway, fancy stick. The
point is that people learned a lot in
this conference and they were really
learning educating on a granular level
what they can do practically. There's a
lot of advice. Like in the videos coming
out you can put out the video. It's a
big deal. So I think really that people
should know that if you're in a company
and they help a small person. There's
one thing Jacob told me before we
started is be very well aware that if
you're you have a one person show, they
can still help you. You're a big show,
they can to help you. And they'll help
you get from a big to a from a small to
a big show. So, I think everyone's
worried about AI what they do. Call
Positive and they'll help you out.
>> Adrian, how's the weather in
Connecticut?
>> Uh it's about the same as here. It's
beautiful.
>> Same as where I make from.
>> Yeah.
>> You were in this You were in this This
is the new office, but how was You were
in the old office? You came in from
>> Oh, yeah. Uh I come in usually about
three to four times a year.
>> So, you work for Positive how many
years?
>> I think January will be 4 years old.
>> Oh, nice.
>> So, there's an office in Connecticut. I
didn't know that.
>> Uh well, my office is in Connecticut.
>> But now it's it's the the the way it
goes it's uh remote is that's the way.
>> Yeah. So, I'm I'm technically remote. Um
but I'm close enough that I come in and
uh if there are any clients we have a
handful of clients that are based in
Connecticut. So, if they needed on-site,
sometimes I'll run over and handle the
local.
>> Nice. Nice. How What's your impression
of this office?
>> It's beautiful. It's stunning.
It is It is come a long way since the
last office. So, um
>> I have some clips of the old office. I
have to still to put it out. Um you were
the
uh the up say uh upstairs of the
>> Yes. I was here for the AI.
>> And what's your take?
>> Uh I
>> You use Instagram Instag- What's it
called? The Instag- What's that thing?
>> I personally don't. I I think it's a
really cool technology, but my take on
AI is it is a fantastic tool to talk to,
but I worry about data security. That's
kind of I'm a big data security guy and
when it comes to linking personal data
with AI, I
am still at this point on a hands-off
sort of way. So, I'll use AI. I will
talk to it. I will connect to it myself
and I'll ask it questions and give it
whatever limited information I want to
give it, but I'm not at the point where
I believe in
>> You believe people are very easy with
giving out their own info and you don't
know what they're going to do with that.
>> Yeah. Um
>> Others are saying, you know, the the the
government, the companies, they all have
my data. So, let me at least use it for
>> That's true. I mean, some people do
that, but I I tend to live a little more
locked down when it comes to personal
data. So, I don't anywhere I don't have
to put my data in a public internet
base, I stay away from that.
But privately, I run my own AI servers
at home and that I'll give my own
because it's totally locked down and has
no access to the outside world.
>> Uh-huh, got it. Beautiful. AJ?
>> Yes.
>> I I you should eat something before you
leave.
>> I think I will.
>> And it's nice to see you and I guess
we'll see you again sometimes here.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Maybe in the new office, the bigger one.
>> Yeah.
>> Beautiful.
Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.