Did Archaeologists ACTUALLY Find the Ketores? | Yoilish Interviews Yoel Gold

We made it. >> This is a long time in the making. This is >> It was worth it. We waiting for as long as we waiting this to happen. [laughter] >> Yep. You know, it's a good comparison this. That's right. That's right. So the story is basically first the story will you'll people can see in the in your production that I just saw a part of it >> a half a year ago about it. >> Yeah. Um, first of all, you were with me by Rebeanski Shabaton theim and I spoke over there and I told over the entire story and in the middle I pulled out a little vial and I gave it to Belly was sobbing and crying. It was very emotional and uh today it's released to the entire world. I want the whole world to see the story. It's very important. >> It's already out there, right? >> It's already out. People can go see it. It's an amazing production. People can go see it at hashkifa. hashk i fa.com. hashkifa.com. Uh it's about the it's called Holy Smokes. Nobody should be mistaking that it's about smoking, you know, cigars. Was what what not. It's about Holy smokes. >> So, how did he get to that? I mean, Give me a little background. I probably it's it's an hourong um the whole story is is there right? >> Hourong film. Yeah. Hour long documentary and um you know I always say just like mitzvah mitzvah story. It's like an interview for you. You know it's one leads to the next and before you know it it's uh it'svelt. It's the whole world. But um look, last year I'm not sure if we spoke about it. I'm not sure if I we did a podcast last year or we spoke about it um somewhere else. Uh we did a production on the manoa the manur the basikto the whole journey how it came from to Rome and when he destroyed the bessame miktosh brought it with him with 90,000 Jews who became slaves. We went through the history the mystery whether it's in the Vatican today or not. And it was very very popular. People loved it. People learned a lot from it. And uh you know I had even non-Jews watch it. I went on non-Jewish podcasts. Uh and uh you know actually non-Jews people with big large platforms reached out to me now when they saw the promotion. They said we can't wait to watch Holy Smokes. But either way, um, you know, somebody reached out to me and said, "Wow, I I just," not not a Jew, reached out to me and said, "I got to tell you the story, and I think you're the right guy to to make a film about it." And he was a person who was on a dig, an excavation, um, archaeologists, uh, he was part of the team. They went to Kuman. Kuman is an area next to the Dead Sea and that's where they discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947. If anybody hasn't heard from the Dead Sea Scrolls, it's 2,000-y old scrolls, parchment, pieces of parchment where you have all the seekim of Tanakh, almost the entire Tanakh written on parchment. They found it in caves, like 800 of them in 1947 and subsequent years. And in that area, that's called Kuman by the Dead Sea. In that area they found one scroll that was different than the rest manu. Why was that different? Because it wasn't written on parchment. It was written on copper and it also didn't have pikum. It had very large amounts of gold and silver and symbols where it was hidden. The symbols represented openings of different caves. And so and so these archaeologists, Boam was an archaeologist name was Vendel Jones used the copper scroll as a basis to try to figure out in which caves are those treasures hidden in and they also had on the copper scroll references to big deuno to mas a lot of the you know the stuff that we know from the B mikdash was hinted to and written engraved in the copper scroll >> and that's how the story began. >> And that's the story began. So he told me, yeah, that in 1992, after 30 years of digging, they found something unbelievable. At first, they didn't know what it was. They found a bunch of organic substances, material. They didn't know. It wasn't It wasn't dirt. You know, they dig in dirt and then they come across this reddish brownish material that they see it's not dirt and they weren't sure what it is. So they sent it to a paleontologist in Oklahoma. I went there and I interviewed him. You could see on the film, you could see in the production he he gives an amazing testimony. He's one of the top top paleontologists in the country, a scientist. And they use him for high-profile trials, you know, to to get some forensic evidence. And uh he uh he tested it and what he said happened during the test during the examination is align. You cannot make this stuff up. Yoish. You cannot make that stuff up. He was describing how he found the 11 ingredients that match the 11 spices of the kitus. He wrote a report. He never heard of kitus. He's a guy go. And then he described how the whole lab soon as he poured the hydrochloric acid in the whole lab began smelling with a smell. He said a scent he never smelled before. He came home that night. His wife said, "You always smell like chemicals. You're in a lab all day. Today you smell from this unbelievable scent. Take me take me to the lab. I have to smell it. And they both describe you could see in the production they both described that they never smelled any. It's not a perfume. It's not uh you know one of those um those uh oils that you put into the uh machine and it starts. It's none of that. It's a pleasant calming. Yeah. It overtakes you. And he said that for two months it smelled in his lab and the flies, the mosquitoes, it was clear the whole area looked different. And uh you know we know say that um the mikdash one of the 10 miracles was that uh there was no there was no flies even though there was so many carbonunas so many meat uh in the azura there was never a fly and according to the Rambam it came from dictitis. According to some of say it came from the misbay from the uh from the fire of the misbay and they had smoked but also he says Ram says it was from the anyway he said the whole thing was ground so finely you know he was describing that when you put cinnamon under a microscope some pieces are larger some pieces are smaller this is the first time he ever saw that every piece was the same tiny size you know it was incredible he said and it was so clean and so well done. He said, "Somebody must have done it and hid it in that cave." And so, uh, they took it to Raad Ysef. They took it to Gdam. And I even went to Ravitz Yusf who son who's the chief rabbi, the Sparic, chief rabbi of Israel. And he I told him the story. He said, "It's Mabbert's dictus." I asked him, "Can I keep it?" He said, "Who does it belong to if it's dictus?" So he said that um he said, you know there it's in the cave. So uh I also I also asked him I was wondering why these they keep the I said to him why why did they find it? Why not told us somebody's you know his you know what's that? So he told me that belongs to everybody. It says in the everybody every it's the whole world benefited from you know when there was a king his name was he sent uh to to contribute to the building the mikdash and the say there was a tum why didn't he come himself and participate in the building the basikt so you see also have a part in And the chief rabbi told me that because these go for the mitzvah. So the branch gave them a gift. He says you're going to be mallet. And you'll see in the production the film that the tremendous mid from this to leave Christianity to leave the other religions and come and declare it's not a denomination. It's not another faction of a religion. They're mamish. They know the Titus and that's what they're supposed to >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, this production covers it all. It's an amazing production. We worked in it for two years. Two years. And you know, it's like uh this past Shabas I said to me it's like a cm. I'm making a sem because you know I worked in it for two years. I do the should know I give it shouldn't think that this is all I do you know called fuels whatever I do number one I'm not saying it to be arrogant I'm saying it so people should know that this is and I I could send you testimonials Feinstein watches these films in the lit I don't know if the knows but they watch these films it's not like only the and uh and they call me they they send people. It has an asoma as >> it has as it has as you know I I have you know last year the manoa film was watched by some of them want me to mention the names and some of them don't but I'm telling you these films are people in it teaches people about our history mentioning the importance of pitamus the power that it gives you know during corona during corona thousands of people said pitmaktois every day is a protection from the corona virus from co because we know the pitakis saved lives. The toy says after yeah they brought the makus and there was the whole the whole ordeal the tragedy that happened there was a mifa and right away went out with theus and it saved thousands of lives. So was a life it gave life it protected life. If you misused it it took your life you know you know so depends depends how you used it. Wait a second. You got you got the but this this one is not cannot save lives. >> Listen this spice you know they gave me a little bit of the spices. A tiny bit. I gave a little bit of turbelli like I said but what happened was >> I was I'm sorry. I I was waiting to see it at least. >> What do you mean you didn't see it? >> All over. >> I saw it. You were you were all the like everyone was like frozen. >> Everyone was frozen. Yeah. I pulled it out. Yeah, the oil was frozen. Look, um I have to give them their money's worth. They they bring me in to speak. No, [laughter] >> 100%. 100%. So So this But the question is if it has to be the cyus in Bamedish to save lives, meaning could save so many lives, >> but it wasn't. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. No look I don't call this they found next to the kitus in the cave they found what's called meis they found salt was used for the kitus they also found carcinoli it's called buis carino that was in two jugs next to the spices and what they didn't find was the malushan the malushan was the herb the grass that uh >> yeah malush kaji and that was the the grass that they added to The kitas that made the kitis go up in a straight column like a pillar. Yeah. Now that malushan was a secret. Only one family the gamura says knew the secret. What's what herb that is? It was bicepinas. Kamura tells the story. Bisinus held it as a secret. They didn't want to reveal it and they charged a lot of money for preparing the kitus. You know they had a monopoly over it and fired. >> The only one that knows the secret. That's what it is. >> It's like Coca-Cola. You know what I mean? They don't release their secret. It's their secret recipe. The kids soak fired them. They decided to hire experts from Alexandria, Egypt, but they couldn't they couldn't copy the to the same standard. So they were forced to rehire by they didn't want to come back unless the doubled their salary. So the Kamura says that their Niska that they charged so much money in the end they told the reason why they didn't want to tell their secret because they knew the B mikdash was going to be destroyed and they didn't want the to fall into the wrong hands >> and be used for the said oh okay we'll forgive you >> but but the question is still why are they charging so much that's that's okay >> listen you know you know We're not into money. We're into [laughter] >> Yes. So, this is amazing. I'm looking forward. I have to watch the whole the as they film the production a donation 501c3. It's uh it's it's a non forprofit and I ask you for dozens of mention costion production goal is level of quality. You know what I mean? The goyan can spend billions and billions of dollars. Abyssal guilt generation. Good times. [laughter] >> The kids now don't know about that. >> No, they don't stories. We many years ago >> they don't know about it. >> [laughter] >> campfish. [laughter] What a difference you're making. Could be at health. [laughter] Don't try it today. Don't try it at home but uh >> you have to be extremely careful >> very very careful today just love them just love them love them love them themes I always say every child in innately [clears throat] internally knows what's right what's right and wrong you don't have to teach children right from wrong children are born with a certain sense in their conscience they already know what's right and wrong yeah you just have to allow them to make the mistakes and to to selfcorrect You know, I got to tell you one thing. I don't know how much time we have. I got to tell you this amazing amazing thing. You know, after the Holocaust, there was a fellow his name was Olirm Olanir was saved by a Polish woman, a peasant, a non-Jew. She hid him for a couple of years and he got out. He got out alive from the from the Holocaust. When he survived, he went to school. He became a psychologist. and his entire life he wanted to understand why those non-Jews that save Jews why what was different about them why were they different from the Gelt was a shame what happened to them his wife also was saved her name is Pearl Pearl Pearl Allan was also saved in the Holocaust by somebody and she also became a psychologist together for 40 years they interviewed hundreds of them they tried to find the common denom nominator vigai that they were the ones who had the courage to stand up and risk their lives to save Jews. And what they found was that they grew up in a home where their parents taught them right from wrong, but also when they made a mistake, they didn't yell at them. They didn't hit them. They allowed them with respect to self-correct. So the values stayed. They didn't resent it. So when they grew up 30 years later, their values were so ingrained in them that they were able to stand up against Nazis and risk their lives to save Jews. So when you're saying >> Yeah. you're saying it's so important, it's it's beyond important because what you do with your child today will affect their decisions in 30 years from now. We don't realize it. >> Wow. This is amazing. The viewer, let me ask you something about Tishabov, if you have a minute or two. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Things are different nowadays. So many of the young have no idea. I mean, the young we I I I have no we don't know. But was you you tell the story and this a little ignites a little bit hope to see what what happened thousands of years. But many years went by and we have no idea. We we have the day tishabove. We have to do what we have to do. You don't eat your drink. It's a holy, >> but we have no idea what what it is. What what's missing? Even >> some some we see the elderly cry. >> I don't know what they know. >> Right. >> How can we? >> Yeah. So, I'm going to tell you that very simply. This generation is very challenged more so than other generations because in other generations there was tremendous persecution. They didn't need a reminder of what Gulus is. They knew. They walked out on the street. Nazi Germany in the 1930s, Spanish Inquisition. Throughout our history, we had a reminder. You walk outside, you had a reminder what gullis is. We missed the best mikdas tremendously. Automatically, we wanted to go back home. We want to go back to because we knew we didn't have a place anywhere in the world. The reason why it's so challenging today is because we live in America. If Msiah came today, how many Jews would want to leave their beautiful homes to go to? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Let's be honest. I'm not so sure. People build themselves homes of millions and millions of dollars and they're comfortable. You know, it's it's not so simple to get up to get up and leave. I don't know if Msiah would come today. How many people would be excited? I hope I have to be done with you know as the story they say the he was crying lost whatever and then um >> [laughter] [laughter] >> Um, so that's a story in the generation emails and texts and phone calls mentioned. You brought to life. You you you showed us an appreciation for what the avoid used to be and you you you instilled a yearning and a longing for the rebuilding of mdash. The a lot of people turn to tragedies and holocaust stories and October 7th stories and painful stories to remind us of the gullis. There are two ways to go about when we enter tishabove. One is to sit in gullis and cry over the pain and feel the suffering. That's one way. The and that's a lot of people do that and that's what we've done for thousands of years. It's it's wonderful. It's beautiful. That's what the kinus is. I'm taking a little bit of a different approach and the approach is to be to illustrate for people what was it like in the times of mikdash. What was it like to have the avoid theas the and through that to show people what we're missing not to focus so much on the tudas but it's more than the tudas you know you can cry hashem take me out of the tuda or you can cry hashem I want to be close to you I can't be close to you in the darkness you know build a basikdash rebuild it and I tell you so many people haven't connected to tishabove in years I could read you some emails you you wouldn't believe They tell me I didn't feel tish but I've always struggled. I'm not sad. I'm not sad. I'm not feeling it. I'm I'm I'm I have a comfortable mattress. I have all the food in the fridge, you know, and I have a good job. I'm making money. So, I failed my how do I connect to that day? So, that's that's the idea. That's that's the challenge of our generation. I think the answer is Hashem put AI. Hashem put all the tools that we need to use it to bring the B mikd back to life so we can see what we're missing. >> Wow. Amazing work. Amazing work. The next podcast we'll make afterm we should be to smell the holy scent of the ktois very very soon and maybe they'll use the found who knows maybe they'll use my >> what [laughter] >> maybe they'll use my kitus >> who knows just a little bit >> yeah that's all you need yeah >> you you say by shabas back then a couple months ago you said the the the background of the story and how you went there. I think they they they throw you out a couple times. You you tell the story on the film as well. >> You see it on the film. We have we have the [laughter] footage. I don't just tell I let the footage tell the story. >> Okay. So, >> so again, it's hashkifa.com. >> hashkifa.com. And there's a special promo code for your followers, for your subscribers. There's a discount. Just type in the discount when [snorts] you go and check out. When you make your donation, check out. If you want to make a little bit less of a donation, use the promo code. [laughter] >> Okay, I'm going to put it out. You know, my promo code is always yish. Y O I L I S H. >> Yeah. I My wife said to me, "Why don't you make a promo code Yoish for yourself?" I said, "It's already taken." [laughter] >> Thank you so much. It's wonderful work. I I can say I just saw a little bit. I mean I didn't saw the the clip yet the film yet but on the Shabas it was mamish amazing. I'm sure everyone over there >> we'll watch it. >> I appreciate uh the conversation with you and I um I want to wish everybody a easy and meaningful fast if it's after the fast. >> Thank you so much wonderful day and an easy fast for you. >> Amen. F.