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Yishai Show: Abraham’s Chutzpah
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Telling God He could do better?? That takes alot of moxy! But therein lies the greatness of Abraham who sets off a relationship revolution between man and God. Rabbi Mike Feuer joins Rabbi Yishai to walk in Abraham’s footsteps, to argue for a few good people in Sodom, and to struggle with Gods command to sacrifice Issac, Abraham’s true heir – and the story of the binding, the pillar of Jewish faith!
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Shai love everybody and welcome to the
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wherever you are show them and welcome
to Jerusalem to a beautiful day I drove
out of my house today see now today when
I live in a front now right so I'm Anna
frot Ian I just moved there about 10
days ago in my street which is called
Shevat seoane and I thank the Lord for
putting me on Shabbat see on street
because it's like thank you God for
putting me on my life mission Street and
which means the return to Zion there is
there are nice days were right from my
house you could see the Temple Mount
itself today was just one of those days
it rained at night perfectly beautiful
clear day today in Jerusalem and
everything just looked beautiful yet yet
on the lower world there was a lot of
intensity my parking here next to the
partes Institute was shall we say I
won't be surprised if there's either a
break in a dent or a ticket or or a
towaway when I get back to my car after
this that's annoying but it's all worth
it because I get to see Rabbi Mike Feuer
rabbi Mike Shalom and welcome
that's real self-sacrifice how you say
well it is the Torah portion of self
sacrifices or sacrificing someone else
as the case may be well it's really
right when you're sacrificing your own
son you're pretty much sacrificing
yourself and you're sacrificing tell it
to the kid right we got a perspective on
this is gonna hurt me talk about it more
that's gonna hurt you son there's no
long run that we're gonna talk about the
akkada I used to say they have al-qaeda
we have the akkada okay we'll talk about
1990s yeah they are 2000 they are they
are they are they're not they're nothing
they're not the real jihad these days no
but a bunch of sissies anyway they were
just like into blowing up large
buildings right there no word until like
driving pickup trucks into crowds of
people right right oh man first thing
this morning like early in the morning I
look at the thing and it's just like we
stand with oh it was like an anti it was
an anti Israel jihadist guy tweeted like
I hope my friends in New York aren't
hurt this guy's such a master snake he's
a snake mastered man
King Cobra this guy such a snake his
name is ISA I'm rue he is the worst
snaky a snake of all time his my hashtag
for him is fake human rights this guy
all day long uses fake human rights
anyway whatever so yet there's been a
terror incident in New York although I
saw that there's some debate whether it
was a terror incident yes the guy's got
a long beard and he's a Muslim yes yeah
Allah Akbar and left notes proclaiming
loyalty to Isis Isis dashboard but that
could really be a warrants or a warrant
what's it called when you're like
dissatisfied with work going postal
postal yeah anyway that was that
listen rabbi Mike before we get too
pressured by air I just want to talk for
for one second with you oh we're on the
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toilet as a you da Vinci dish my I know
you're I do but you're into prayers as a
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yeah for sure it's it's a much more
visceral experience yeah it really is it
really is also I want to say another not
exactly sponsor but related part of the
show is your show which is called the
Jewish story and that I happen to listen
to it last week I try to catch it every
week but this past week was particularly
interesting to me because I am
personally very fascinated with the
period of the 1550s and with the
confluence of these great people that
all came to the spot the Golden Age spot
right yeah and you you did a show about
reveals of Karo mm-hmm I knew most of
the facts but there were a few things
that I didn't know for example you
talked about how the Chicano rule was
actually a kind of cliffnotes yeah I
mean he wrote it at the end of his life
and there are many scholars who look and
say that he never intended it to be
definitive but rather as a study guide
so to speak for his real work which was
the biggest thing I didn't know that
part so that was that was really cool
and I'm really much looking forward to
this week's show which is gonna be about
the Rizzo yes the Mormons
side of what was happening in spot right
but you also did point out the reviews
of karo who's the known as the macabre
the great I wouldn't have a comic hammer
in English the great author the great
author sure of he's just called the
author you cannot love Judaism you gotta
love Judaism that hey you get these
titles some people are called like
there's only a few people go Rebbe you
know Rebbe that's you know you know nazi
right and then you have you know the
rabbit that's the lavash or ever you
know who the river is right and then you
have you know you have all these
different titles like and some people
have no title like hello like that
everybody knows that's him there's all
these great names you get in or people
named after great books well that's
that's there's a shift actually in the
Mahabharata win that shift begins before
him it's people titles like the Rambam
they're on the rash but people in the
rashon him the early medical authorities
didn't get the name of their books it's
it's the acronym who become oh he's the
Shahana he's the you know the time is
the brewer when you and when you do your
show you really get to feel like you're
shaking these people's hands to me the
reason I'm so fascinated by that
particular segment that you're covering
right now first thing you pointed out in
your show that it's a great transition
of time on many levels including you
know between be shown a macaroni man and
also the the issue of modernity or early
modernity and the printing press that
whole business and that that big change
but to me and I'm very feel very strong
about this this is the beginnings of
Zionism of I'm talking about this third
return design in my mind do you ever did
you ever see that movie Pirates of the
Caribbean sure a long time okay nothing
to talk about here but there's this part
where the coin there's kind of whatever
at least this this treasured coin falls
into the water and it sends out like a
ping it sends out a ping and you see
this like wave reverberates to the
horizon yeah and you mentioned that you
said something you said it you said it
right at the very end of your show that
you were story on this network you said
the the the aerosols
he sent some kind of shockwave some kind
of a verb
raishin through time yes and I really
feel that there was a ping that went out
to the world and it was the confluence
of these many good people but especially
the ariza in reviews of car together at
the same time in spot under the Turkish
mandate under the Turkish sovereignty of
the Land of Israel and it just sent out
a signal that said come home we're in
the time of ingathering I mean it's an
amazing thing I don't know how far you
want to go with it but there's a very
important shift that happens in the
person in the air ezel you know join me
great 20th century bridge historian not
a big fan of the Jew not a big fan of
the Jews nor did he understand us
because in his masterful study is called
the study of history he calls us a
fossilized people because Toynbee one of
his most important observations is he
said a civilization can actually already
have crossed from rising to falling even
though it continues to grow Americans by
the way listen up right because if the
difference becomes in his mind whether
you worship your ancestors or your
pioneers so for most of our history most
last 2,000 years we've been looking
backwards and the ariza represents that
moment where he returns his own divine
experience to a central legitimate
source of authority and is that turning
point were allowed were we able even to
turn our eyes forward if you think about
what the Zionists did in a brutal
fashion was they cut off the past and
they said we're done with that moving
forward and suddenly you have a culture
at a state an empire if you will the
fifth kingdom as something like to call
it my fifth because there are four
kingdoms in the vision of Daniel oh yeah
yeah and you mean empires that we kind
of know but we are meant to because the
fifth kingdom will last forever in the
vision of Daniel mm-hmm right and that's
a longer discussion we can have in
another time but my point is certainly
the third Commonwealth third
Commonwealth of Ami's are what the
kingdom of the world right they ate the
ariza represents that moment of
transition from from backward-looking to
lookin God in the face as it were in the
present which opens up the future and
that's really the power in my mind of
what happened spot and it was really
only possible together with the macabre
the other was someone who who did all
that work to bring the past into a solid
foundation
which he could build so that ping that
you're hearing which we live in today we
really live in today because I agree
with you 100%
that it was the beginning of the return
at that point was he's opening up the
possibility that our experience of God
in the world today could be a legitimate
source of guidance for where we're
trying to go moving forward if you agree
with that rubric you might agree with
the next step which i think is a bit of
a jump really the Jewish people were
actually exiled around the Year 500 here
in the Land of Israel is when really
like because the Jews remember after the
destruction of the temple are still
around the mission is completed
afterwards they move north it but
they're still around but basically I
started thinking to myself the Exile
really lasted about a thousand years the
true core exiled I put a little earlier
in 500 we can debate that later okay but
like but like it's 1,000 years of Exile
right it's a nice number for us but you
are correct yeah any great theories on
where and we're definitely living in
this time were there resolves energy and
his you know great students that come
after him the Baal Shem Tov the the
gerado gonna Vilna and the Orihime a
Kadosh they all have two things in
common the study of the cup a lot in the
return to Zion means received they have
what they received in the past and the
return design is a vision of where
they're trying to head and their ability
to embody that in the presence is what
made them such powerful charismatic
leaders I want to say hi to two folks
that listen all the time first thing one
of my great rabbis who taught me so much
Torah in the continual inter from him is
rabbi Aaron Ziegler do you know how by
Sigler by any chance I do not
he gives Sumika he's a fantastic
fantastic teacher also lectures a lot at
the owe you and over the holidays it has
a fantastic
Cole Cole Cole Fame and he gives me
honey's fantastic teacher and he's he's
a devout listener to the show he writes
me an email every week and and I learned
so much from him got my stuff from him
and and I really appreciate him so much
Aaron Sigler rabbi Aaron Ziegler is
fantastic here in your shall I made on
the off course so god bless him and I
also want to say had a good friend of
mine Jake Bennett out in air
who listens to show and there's a lot of
great Arizona folks Jake is one of them
I didn't know that he listens to the
show we were talking this week he told
me that he listens every week so I want
to say hi to those two fabulous people
we're doing great work Jake is fighting
for Israel on so many different levels
and people like him who are not here are
sometimes just emissaries of God to be
fighting for for Israel wherever they
are
I mean anyway I want to say you're doing
great job in your show and I'm really
looking forward to this week's
installment you know to me it's very
important to understand this period
because I also think that it leads to
the first Ali oat and the first Ali owed
are really religious Elliot and Naima
gracious to Land of Israel and there's
it's not called the first alia no but
they called it that you Shu how you shun
no there's no question that it was God
that called us back before sort of
European romantic nationalism fired up
in the masses right
I do wanna make an invitation to people
to go to my facebook page I'm I'm
looking for folks to help me make
history right at the time and the effort
yeah it always involves money so if you
want to be a patron you can go to my
facebook page Rob Mike at Facebook and
you can see you at the top a list there
a very easy button to push for
patreon.com absolutely that's great and
in general uh folks you know pony up be
part of the story your money is not just
your money I was sitting with somebody
the other day who was I sitting with and
I had to explain to him that like money
is not dirty money is a good thing with
the tool for doing in the world so the
question is what type of person are you
right but but but some people who are
raised in a more you know literary and
humanistic fashion not in the business
world they think of money is something
like sorted sorted right and I'm just
like no dude no not at all he's like
well how should I approach this person I
said with clarity with honest to tell
him that you need your is help and he's
gonna be excited because he wants to be
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of story keep being part of the story
got in little into the car today on the
way over here it's been it's been what
what is what is the word of our time the
word of our time is used to be called
frazzled or fragmented or you had to do
a defrag today they have a different
word frenetic frenetic is that a correct
word netic frenetic that's like that's
the jumbled crazy world that we live in
yeah driving out of a fried I told you I
saw the Temple Mount but I picked up an
81 year old Jew named Eliyahu he
proceeded to tell me the story of his
life Moroccan Jew and he told me about
how his first wife died he married a
second wife a second wife wanted a
divorce he divorced her then she called
them and she wanted him to get back
together and he said okay they got back
together and they bought apartments and
he told me this whole story and inside
he weaved so many blessings to me to
have a you know new life and all this I
really felt like Italy I came and gave
me a lot of blessings in the in the
Moroccan you know Israeli fashion so so
there's there's but still the life is
very frenetic and this to our portion is
a bit frenetic as well in the sense that
two themes that we heard last week are
going to come back to us again and then
at the end of the store portion we're
gonna see some revolutions in this Torah
portion I think we're gonna see two big
we revolutions let's call two huge
revolutions well three big revolutions
one revolution is gonna be that there's
gonna be a revolution in the sense that
Sodom is gonna be flipped that is a
revolution yeah but before then is
there's gonna be an argument between man
and God
Abraham is gonna go to bat for the first
liberal Jew by the way the I'm sure of
it Abraham the first liberal Jew let's
call him the First Universalist whatever
you know it was a difference okay
you know you know fine he okay maybe
he's the first progressive whatever you
want to call him okay
but the bottom line you know what I'm
talking about he goes to bat for the bad
guys okay he says don't put him in jail
put color called rehabilitation he's he
say are they anti opera home right it's
not just that he goes to bed it's a
setup
let's just clarify and I'm gonna let you
get into it we're talking about the
we're gonna have to go fast through this
port or portion the first thing is is
that that god is once again going to
send angels he's gonna once again tell
Abraham that guess what you're gonna
have a son his name is gonna be it's
like and this time it's going to be
Sarah that laughs remember last week
Abraham left this time Sarah laughs but
this time slightly different tone
slightly different tones seemingly God
says to Abraham you know Sarah laughed
saying and this is so awesome because we
hear what Sarah says in her heart the
Torah tells us you know I have become
all I've become my skin has become
withered will I once again be young and
my master ie a brand new bri hem why did
she say that she got old
he didn't tell her left out the other
half right he left out the other half
the Kamara says this is a proof that
sometimes you can bend the truth for
shell and bias
some people just remember this there are
three gates that everything that comes
in your mouth has to pass through right
is it true is it necessary and is it
kind right if it doesn't pass those
qualifiers don't say it right in general
by the way we need a ticket for the
mouth we needed secret for what goes in
no yeah and what comes out and that's
that big stuff any case is so so that's
the the first part of the story then
we're gonna learn that God wants to
destroy Sodom Sodom nearby here really
really a few claps I live I live quite
close you live quite close to Sodom and
it was one time like a very green place
until God flipped it sent down the
destruction the kind of which hadn't
been seen since the model since the
since the local but quite intensive
right yeah very intensive a big deluge
and in Abraham God tells Abraham he kind
of informs him what's going on well and
that's actually where I wanted to start
it's a phenomenal event in the Torah
when God turns to the reader and draws
you into the narrative right this line
Pacha mama
Hasani mama ma chere Nilsa
am I going to hide from Avraham that
which I'm about to do and he goes on
explains but the question is we got who
are you talking to
the only answer there could be is the
reader and when you're learning you need
to pay close attention anytime the Torah
turns directly to you as reader and
invites you into what's happening it
means you must not miss what is about to
come because what's about to come is
truly revolution as you said right that
when Avraham who you know on the surface
of it when God says I'm going to destroy
Saddam what Tom say oh it's your world
boss not only that but yeah I'll go down
like they are the anti-prom
the Midrash makes it very clear that
their great sin was that they not only
rejected guests but that they that they
they abuse them that torture and we'll
get an actual will get a glimpse into it
the Torah will give us a you know we'll
zoom right over there and we'll be we'll
be privy to what they do and basically
they are sodomized errs they are they
are rapists yes and and when they found
out that there's guests in the town
little do they know that these guests
were laser-powered angels right who are
gonna thank you I mean let's not go
there yet right because what's the first
revolution the first revolution is that
God says to Abraham I'm gonna destroy
the city and and Abraham gets into a
long and detailed discourse dialog shall
we say even argument negotiation our
advocacy advocacy basically goes to
advocate for for these sodomites
according on will say it
certainly my rabbitov daniel has told me
many times and I've seen hints of it in
in Islamic adoshem as we say the holy
books that this is the first actual
prayer in the entire Torah that
everything up till now everything that
no off might have done everything that
Adam might have done when kind says to
God Wow
like it's really too hard for you to
bear my sin that was something else
it was pleading it was asking you know
by the way you know how does a dog bark
in he in in Israel what a dogs have
right so it's important to know that
Israeli dogs don't bark in Hebrew they
in Aramaic uh-huh right because have an
aramaic means gimme gimme gimme
so the sages tell us that that up until
now all the pairs of the of the of the
Bible had been like dogs barking and a
lot of us unfortunately pray that way
give me give me give me
Avraham is the first person to step the
god and say know that the world doesn't
need to be like that not only that I
show fat klutz
oh yes any Shabbat he says the judge of
all the land isn't going to do justice
God I know you better than that says out
huh you can do better you can do better
than this he demands that the world be
better than it is better than God's
expressed will it's there of the two big
revolutions of this like inter-human at
the I vow the the God human relationship
which we'll learn about in this week's
Torah portion this one is just the what
did the camera say just the other day
and did I feel me puts / clapface my
Mahon yet even even as a certain bit of
hutzpah certain bit of well you know
what if I have to translate clips but
then don't listen to the show okay no
okay every juice every Gentile in New
York City knows what hurts plays okay
yeah watch Seinfeld you know what what's
present anyway yeah so so so certain
this this is the ultimate hot spot
towards gun I can't and that's one of
the phrases in the Bible which I'm
always like I like do a lump swallow in
my throat one got one
when Abraham says shouldn't the judge of
all the land do justice or the judge of
the land will shall not do justice
question why it's like it's like it's
like sardonic a little bit it's like and
yet all of creation up to this point has
been heading for this moment
for this moment because otherwise why
make up the world right I mean if you go
right back to the biggest question of
all why make the world if you can't well
more I think more fairly why make right
well so might make the world why make a
welding at all because because you had
to make to make the world you have to
give free choice or else or else you
didn't need to make the world
everybody's following your things it's a
red herring this whole free choice thing
it's a red herring because everyone
getting too much with it but but but you
know you didn't choose your race you
didn't choose
but wrote but don't choose it's all
about relationship and in a real
relationship there has to be other and
it's true free choice is a an expression
of that other Ness but the core issue is
that there is other and you know what
you know who else says to us I shuffle
ours asme spot the judge of all the
earth shouldn't do justice you know who
else says to us I know you better than
that the people that we really love
think about it your spouse your friends
the people you're close to are the ones
who look at you when you're acting a
certain way and they say no it's not you
you see what do you mean it's not me but
ya know it's absolutely me right now no
no no it's actually not you I know you
and that's why God parentheses the whole
episode here I thing I miss my sad name
album I'm gonna cover this up no he's
hinting to the reader pay attention I
want you to know what life is about life
is not about a passive obedience God
says I created the trees I created the
dogs
I created the crickets I created all
that they're all very nice and sweet and
kind and very passive and then I created
humanity
now we've seen Stone what happens when
humanity just takes it's active nature
and goes astray well that gets destroyed
so cuz I'm not afraid to do that either
but what I really want is someone who
will be an active partner with me in
creation and following on the
circumcision roms active completion of
himself that we saw last week this is
its expression because now he is so much
himself he will step to God and say no
this is not the way we run the world all
right so so so there is a fight here
let's off whatever let's put it this way
he's he's demanding of God even more yes
isn't fine exactly
and yet we're gonna deal with two cases
within this Torah portion where that is
challenged I'll explain what I mean
the first is now Isaac is going to be
born in this week's Torah portion dunt
dunt on that by the way is also
revolution yes that's also a revolution
the fact that God intervened in this
world made such a miracle happened Isaac
is born and when Isaac is born that
really is continuity for Abraham
that and that's what that's what's the
last the the last week's Torah portion I
click on the big question mark is there
continuity for Abraham and in the end of
this week's Torah portion the answer
will be yes there is continuity today
pray not the way you thought well I'm
saying at the very very end or last
week's for this week's at the end at the
end of this week's Torah portion we're
gonna it's gonna be like and there is a
daughter yeah how they are to marry
Isaac there is continuity for Abraham
we'll get to that in a second but before
we go to that abraham stands up in his
in his let's call it his season he's
known as the man of kindness he should I
said yet he is going to face a moment
where his head is and this is like this
is where I'm putting that liberal
conservative kind of argumentation
tonight and you know it doesn't fit it's
anachronistic but still he he at some
point after Isaac is born
Sarah recognizes hey this Ishmael it's
not good to keep Ishmael around with
Isaac Isaac is Dean does the true
inheritor and I have to separate them
okay it's got they need some distance
from one another I need Ishmael to leave
and she says you got a kick out of
Shamal in his and his mom you got to
kick them out of this household it's
just not gonna work together well it
needs separations like meat and milk you
know they both have their place but neat
separation I need my son to inherit
properly here and and Abraham coming
from that place of kindness is unable to
make that parsh that cut that cut that
harsh cut and God says to him everything
that Sarah told you schmuck hola listen
to her voice in my explanation always is
he doesn't command him to kick Ishmael
and in hug our out he says your wife
actually saw it he didn't need a godly
commandment you don't need a prophecy
she saw it with her fleshly eyes by the
way she is a prophetess but in any case
she saw what's right and you sir you
missed it you missed it Abraham you
missed it she saw it with her regular
eyes and that's why I want you to listen
to her I mean part of this is also the
fact that Abraham will never be able to
raise you talk to whom he needs to be if
he doesn't listen to his wife meaning
it's a message for what it is to be a
parent is that it's not about being
right it's about be
together mm-hmm right and there's a very
important sort of very simple element of
their relationship in this is that you
might think on the surface of it
Abraham is everything and so is his wife
he's also got hug ah he's also got a
mistake that's not the way you talk
we'll come into the world that's a great
point that you're making that I want to
by the way talk just for a second tiny
parenthesis tell you that in Hebrew as
an English you could say father's and
that includes fathers and mothers the
the male form in language can be
encompassing of the female as well yeah
it is the the gender-neutral right and
so you can say in Hebrew Hebron is the
city of the forefathers or in Hebrew
Aloha votes but I've been saying to
people even though that is true
linguistically it's not enough today
today we have to say vote the emote the
city of the fathers and the mothers had
the ghee should sit like give it an
emphasis make it clear make it clear
because that the women are very much
part of the story and so even though you
has come around to that perspective yeah
the Abraham's kindness in a sense is a
what I want to find here it's like - it
needs to be a little bit reined in Ted
well because his kindness it Abraham is
easy has said right and it's truly
translated as as kindness or loving
kindness but remember that the core
meaning of acid is its boundless right
and and therefore there's a very
important element where it needs to be
bounded as and and now I'm gonna jump
I'm gonna skip over the whole Sodom
story which is one of the more
intriguing stories in the Torah I'm
fairly well known and fairly well known
it will get we'll get back to it I hope
on the show today and also it's uh very
graphic
oh yeah just you know what I'll talk
about that in a second but I want to
skip now because we're on one theme here
which is these themes of the revolutions
of Abraham's the Abrahamic revolutions
we could call them really you say you
want a revolution right and and the
revolution here is the first one I think
is the birth of Isaac the first
revolution is Abraham you know just a
fact that there is an Abraham and I mean
it's expression in that argument with
God that's it right gonna go they knew
it in the birth of yet Scott right and
then oh here we go the the big
bump of them all in the big the big the
big challenging kind of story of the
Torah is the story of the binds is so
essential the binding the akkada their
kiddies got its own name like the story
the story's got his name it's that word
the akkada does you know it doesn't say
and now begin the story of the akkada
that's a word that the name that we give
it because it's such a central story
it's it's it's like it's like just a
paragraph long but that story has its
own name the akkada hawk it down in many
ways that the centerpiece of the bible
right right and it's certainly the
pillar of faith for the Jewish people
and and basically the same man that
argues for the rights of the of the
wicked the members of Sodom he the same
man who who prayed so much we learned
and really gave other options for his
own continuity whether it be Eliezer or
Ishmael gets the real continuity through
Isaac and this man is a man who has
fought against idolatry throughout his
life including the idolatry especially
of child sacrifice suddenly gets the
commandment
guess what Abraham I want you to go
sacrifice or offer up your son at this
special place the the land of Moria okay
and he gives them the second LexA
there's a second life in this world
there's two left with us the first LexA
is like going to the land and sanctify
the land now I want you to go up to
within the land I want you to go up to
this holy mountain right and go left
left Hut to the air it's to the land of
Moria
there I want you to offer up your son
and here we have the famous three days
of silence where where Abraham is
walking and he is contemplating and this
is also made famous by a non-jewish a
scholar [ __ ] guard who talks about these
like three days of what's going through
Abraham's book on it right it's fear and
trembling a very powerful work before we
get into it I do want us to say it's
very important in context of ever
discussed in the akkada
that our sage is place the akkada at the
beginning of the para service in the
morning meaning any conversation that we
have about this I think needs to be in
the context of returning to it
every single day this is not a story
that one gets make up that they just
understand it and like oh I've got I
know what that means it's a story that
changes through one's light it's a story
that is meant to actually change you
through your life it is a fixed point
around which so much of our
consciousness revolves and returns again
and again mm-hmm and in the end of the
day master I believe this stories about
because if the first revolution new
names really birthed Avraham into the
world as he was meant to be he finally
had that hood spot that that sense of
fullness of self mm-hmm that allowed him
to stand up and look at God his explicit
command say no that's not the way not
the way it's he doesn't say it's not the
way it's meant to be
not that you want to be the next phase
is actually birthing a new face of God
into the world it's a very important
process of the kid which has nothing to
do with our I mean let's everything to
do with God you know there's a very
critical piece that the English reader
may miss and that's why I want to
actually bring this out and then I'll
I'll bounce it back to you is that that
when it says when the text says the a
funny dream I a there
well you him me side around it was after
these things that God tested Abraham
that word Elohim is a very particular
name of God but in that critical moment
when God stops Abraham it's a different
name God
up until then it's been a know him and
then in that moment it's javea it's the
four-letter name of God and there is a
revolution so it starts with the
judgment type name the the or the laws
of nature type name look with God is
bounded by human existence okay meaning
I mean God is speaking down ROM so
there's something coming from outside
but the word Elohim is that means all
the powers of the world right and one of
the greatness of that word can be even
used interchangeably with judges would
you think about judges are another power
of the world right and one of the
geniuses of Israel a human the human the
the the the sovereignty that's granted
over to humanity right judging life and
death right and and one of the geniuses
of Israelite tradition is we recognized
that though one can experience the
powers of the world as diverse they have
one source so that's why that name is
actually plural but it's referring to
singular mm-hmm whereas what happens
when a firm is faced with a situation
where his experience is out reaching
overreaching his understanding his
understanding of the world is based in
Elohim he gets the world God is speaking
to him and then God says by the way you
talk he's gonna be your future now take
him up on that mountain that doesn't
work together in the world as he knows
it and yet he moves forward but that's
what Kierkegaard by the way calls the
absurd because he was like the extension
type but it's not absurd it's mom's
acceptance of the fact that if you live
in a world which is always bounded by
your understanding then your God will be
an idol because you must reduce God to
your world and even if God is because
you own him through because if you don't
understand and you reject that as
something which is not real that means
you shrink the world to your
understanding that means tricking God as
well right but it also doesn't mean a
blindness of then saying well whatever
God tells me must be true the struggle
must have been Titanic and in his
ability to move forward and to allow his
experience to drive him and not his
understanding he bursts a completely new
understanding of it to the world well
let's let's let's try to do let's try to
let's try to drill down on that but at
the same time without going you know to
too deep I'd like what's the what's the
simple essential message here because a
lot of the the lot of folks what they
find to be very troubling is that and
there are even Jewish not not in the
traditional kind of world but you know
Jewish thinkers about the Bible who
sometimes say here is this big mistake
of course we don't read all the test
might fail the test and he should have
said absolutely not but what what and I
think those are those people are wrong
and also textually wrong because you see
that God does not say that but the
question that they levia
level is where's your arguments now
Abraham yeah where's your where's your
where's your where's your sense of
morality with which you judge God at
least where's your like at least throw
out a question mark feel like did I hear
you're right is it right that I just get
heatstroke it's the desert out here you
know
think he cited I think he said sacrifice
your son but couldn't have meant that
and it's very important by the way that
he says versus what is the silence he
says cough nah that says cough noises
please please right please stickers it's
not a command right it's a request and
in many ways that's what makes it
different than when it happens that
still write them God gives a command and
Abraham says no way you know we're not
gonna do it like that I know you better
than that here God is asking abiram to
be something other than he's ever been
so I'm honestly I want to say two things
about that one thing is I've mentioned a
few times in the show now is that this
this past year I went to Auschwitz for
the first time in my life and or first
time in this version of life right and I
was I was in Auschwitz with shmuly Patel
I don't know why but I gotta tell you
that what that that made a big imprint
on my mind and we walked and walked
through Birkenau it's my feet were so
tired I was mama he like schmuely he
like he like he like he what's the word
I'm looking for like he totally finished
me off physically that day you know and
there was something of an of dude like a
like a slavery that I felt Bend that day
and it's somehow just fit I didn't even
realize until afterwards and I heard I
saw for the first time a gas chamber
because there's one that's actually
extent the rest were destroyed in
various ways including the famous Jewish
revolt at Birkenau but you know I saw
one of those gas chambers where there's
a gas chamber and then there's a and
then there's a crematorium yeah they're
related things kill him and then get rid
of the evidence
yeah and I heard it you know I heard the
akkada I heard the the call of the Jews
saying we're going in and we're going to
die we're going to offer ourselves up on
some kind of altar here but the story
will go on and and and that and that we
you know if father Abraham almost
finished off
his progeny and in at the end we were
saved and so to our souls will be saved
and it was just like this thing here's
what I'm trying to say there's an
element of self-sacrifice as a Jew II
absolutely and what it is is it yet it's
a dedication to life where my embodied
life is a tool of my dedication to life
but it's not the sum total right what
get stock represents is is if you
reverse the letters of his name Cates
high the edges of life right what gets
[ __ ] in the image of Yitzhak when you
pray needs to be fire right
the it stock is that fire that sense
that when I look at the world I see all
these specific things you know what the
power of we're sitting in this room with
Lou you know with tables and chairs and
boxes you know every single thing in
this room will burn yeah because there's
an energy which they share that
transcends their individual form and yet
Scott is the embodiment of a dedication
to life which transcends embodied form
and when Abram was tested but God was
saying to him is listen you begged and
pleaded to me for continuity because
you're dedicated to life you are each
facet you are the person of boundless
love and commitment but I want to see do
you really understand what life is
because if this becomes a worship of
yourself and your particular form and
your ability to hand on to your children
then you are a night out or you will
stay in that world of Elohim of the
boundedness and you will never really be
able to bring the shame of laia into the
world notice by the way when the atok
says hey dad
he I see the wood I see the fire where
is the sacrifice I notice he doesn't
mention the knife he says he says
where's the lamb
Avram says Elohim yet right God sees
what does he realize what I meant God
will show him your lolol he'll heal
himself you're the two shows to play
between show then the whole life dog
lifetime's working and anybody out there
wants to join us at partes in my class
on Mondays and Wednesdays we're gonna
get into this in a very big way
it takes a lot of time but the the
between seeing in
is very big but he basically says God
sees but God has him what does he
renamed the place you're a chamois red
right that they have and that becomes
part of the word you Rachelle a becomes
what you sh lime is is that there's a
way in which Abraham used to relate to
the javea to the sense of God that
transcends all boundary that you have to
have a loss of self because God is the
infinite means that I can't exist right
and he has a realization that God is the
infinite means that I can exist and sees
me and ultimately that I will see God
mixed into this whole story is also the
birth of the temple and this at this
very spot great Talmudic phrase leo
dooley he wrote where you come to the
three festivals you come to see and be
seen
absolutely both by others and by God
Rudi's in that story of the binding
right and right after the binding you
know famously he will not be sacrificed
oh and I have to I have to mention here
something that Jonathan Sacks Jonathan
Sacks you know not a trivial person at
all not by Lord dr. rabbi Lord dr.
Jonathan Sacks great ties he said and a
lot of super smart books but he said
something about the akkada which I found
to be at least a great little chunk that
you could chew on and he says basically
he was arguing with some atheist
or some famous atheist and basically
they got into the topic of their kada
and and basically you know the guy
accused God the the the other day would
accuse god of of you know wanting child
sacrifice and then and then and then
Jonathan sex is no the acade is exactly
the opposite in those times everybody
every god every if you were serious God
you wanted a child sacrifice and what
God said through this act is I do not
want that I do not want that like this
is a story to tell you know do not see I
kind of lured you in and then I was like
no I don't want that at all in many ways
the greatness of our home in that moment
was his ability not to do it right and
and and and the Talmud goes on and it
says can I at least
Nik draw a little blood we are hearing
in that is his transformation fully from
the roots of idolatry into the true
worship of God this is his moment of
freedom right this is the moment in
which his consciousness is birth on the
level that we are still sitting here
talking about that story now because if
he had stayed in the world of Elohim of
the god of nature the god which is
bounded by our experience then we would
not be having this conversation now
and the akkada is the turning point so
the akkada
The Binding is really the Abrahamic
revolution the continuing survival and
also in a sense the rebirth of Isaac
since the the the Kabbalistic literature
says that he actually gave his soul the
soul left his body got kind of kind of
pushed back in also Midrash says the
Abrams slaughtered him and burned his
body in his ashes the rest before God
forever that's right so there's a kind
of there's there's like death and life
all mixed in there but it's definitely
and that's why as you said earlier rabbi
Mike Feuer that it's it's kind of a
study a life study a returning text
daily daily and in so and and the temple
was born the temple is born without
without it being said so exactly the
Temple Mount the temple was born and
that that great service for the future
is is there any present there did you
see this is the same thing I get this
for my students here all the time speak
of liberals and progressives and say why
this place wasn't that idolatrous right
we have a place they say them listen if
you're everywhere you're nowhere the
fact that having a place if you've
undermined everything you've underlined
nothing yes exactly they go with that's
an excellent example yes you go through
a book and you underline everything
that's important you've got the same
book you've learned nothing right right
the power of the temple is that place
matters but not to the exclusion of
other but to the emphasis my God loves
one people doesn't teachers he loves
them to the exclusion of others teaches
us that he couldn't love at all love his
intimate intimacy is about commitment to
you and not someone else this place is
about the fact that we can connect to
God in this world at all and that is
absolutely boring at the akkada right
and it's in its
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there's a point there's a meeting point
between heaven and earth if there's no
meeting point if there's no everywhere
there's no relationship exactly
relationship always happens in this
specific okay so now let's go to the we
just dealt with the equator that's the
end of the Torah portion let us know by
the way if I didn't say we're in the
Torah portion of ie era what chapters is
that around or ends in twenty-two lanza
22 and beforehand there's a book of
Genesis book of very sheet and there's a
sister story here also has violence
because you could you could say that the
the akkada is violent or almost violent
you know and and through that is kind of
learnt out something else but and and
and we basically gave birth to the
masonic period in terms of the temples
and replacements there's a sister story
here I think which is the story of Sodom
and basically you have here lope he went
down to to live in Sodom and Gomorrah
which were obviously very successful
places very wealthy places very very
lush places Jose the good life
they chose the good life but but they
also had a very chronic there was a true
breakdown of morality there they were
rotten to the core it was rotten to the
core in Rome at the height of its wealth
you know it seems to me even more than
that it seems to me that it was it was
corrupt in a in even a loveless way it
was like it was like kind of like where
where it was it was a it was much more
like a kind of you know the worst places
that you can imagine where power was
absolutely corrupted where people's
where people were not valued the
humanity of individuals are not valued I
mean in that way you are corrected it is
the inverse of the akkada story it was
the debasement of life right is that the
individual in stone was just an object
as opposed to the individual being a
specific point of meeting for the
infinite and so therefore that's why
stone was characterized by literally
using people as objects right and
buddy-buddy but against their will and
the violence that's my object there's an
object has no will right what I mean
that's right if I have a subject object
relationship I'm the one that matters
you're just an object of my desire right
you know because there's there's a
difference like
laughs deal but you know for example the
story of like Weinstein Harvey Weinstein
right now just engineers I happen to be
very interested in that story cuz I feel
like it's also a Jewish story did we
talk about that when you think back we
spoke like and I'm actually heading out
to Los Angeles in two weeks and I'm I'm
just kind of curious to see where it's
at there because you know I think that
that that we all know that a place like
Hollywood is a place of licentiousness
objectification an abscessed occasion
but but it's kind of like but but one
thing you could say about is that
generally speaking you'd like to think
that it's a consensual thing but when
you have an objectification is never
consensual or it is because an object
has no will you can understand what you
might be willing to go into becoming an
object you might be willing to do that
okay we don't be but the point is is
that is that there's but but but it can
but it can but it goes but you're right
in the sense that it regresses from
there oh yeah you know I mean and that's
what Weinstein is one scene is is and by
the way if you've watched some of the
wines - movies they're fabulous some of
the movies that he's chasing I don't
know any men you know some of my
favorite movies that's what that's what
bothers me also because I don't have so
many favorite moves in the ones that are
happened to be under this under this
production house for example a lady in
gold which is about which is about I've
done many interviews on this on this
movie about about art restitution the
famous Klimt restitution of the
Austrians great movie and also another
one of my personal favorite movies which
is the King's Speech okay that's great
stuff and you see the genius the
creative genius and how it devolves how
how absolute power kind of becomes
corrupted and and money and all that it
just becomes like and then when you hear
these stories about what was going on
you're like this isn't even human that
he was a predator yes yes he was a
predator but I think that there's when
you say that here's me being liberal to
this guy I think there's also I think
there's a sickness yeah a lot but but
but I think he was a predator on I think
he was being I think he had succumbed to
to the most you know executed yeah right
became totally became like you we
Nielsen story is really it's been lost
all sense of
Selam aleykum listen there's a deep
question in between the creative and
that desire and also by the way the the
pain that you feel around like do i
watches movies anymore do it like it
it's not necessarily the time or place
to discuss it but but there are many
people whose contributions to thought
our experience have been rich and
powerful and when you scrape even the
surface off their personal life you say
oh my father for example would never
never bought German products never
listen to vogner and he was also very
sensitive hewed be like that's that's
them he would be able to point out that
that's your influence he was very good
at that you know I could listen to
Tabasco or Beethoven not since any kind
of German influence but he was very he
was very sensitive to their to their to
their influence anyway that is that is
an interesting question about art that
we're talking about any case let's get
back just a second to Sodom basically
basically Sodom is this place where like
you know these these days like and it's
speaking of Hollywood here's it we
here's a real Hollywood version of
things you know what two angels come
down there you know and they're like
okay we're gonna sit we're gonna clean
this place out what we're for boys and
kids get out of town right oh you know I
had another visual thought about that
you know there is a visual image of mrs.
lote right and mrs. lote she's being
whisked out of town everything about
Lodi doesn't want to get pulled out of
this thing he's beat my man right he is
he is delaying what would they really
have to go what is this what is this
forget with that there's a cancellation
mark which makes you say
it's in a very long way and he gets he
gets like he's pulled in he stasek don't
look back now don't look back and misses
load she looks back becomes a pillar of
salt
yeah cuz she looked back at Nordstrom
and she was like Nordstrom super target
no to me
right you go downtown to Manhattan you
see that golden Merrill Lynch bull and
the the quintessential opposite of that
is mrs. Potiphar's salt pillar right the
quintessential opposite like visual
thing that's supposed to represent you
don't go there man don't go there
why do you why don't you become a pillar
of salt early and so that you know that
there's this thing that's what should be
downtown in Manhattan a big pillar of
salt representation and they keep ill
keep you on the straight and narrow I
mean it's it's a very powerful reminder
that that God's grace does exist in the
world right that God does pull us out of
these situations of of stone but if you
get that grace the most important thing
to do is don't look back don't don't
regret it may have been great it may
have been a lot of fun but live your
life looking forward and they'll get
pulled back in don't get pulled back
into that thing way after the danger yam
just when I thought I was out they
pulled me back in right that's funny
that's from the Godfather yeah anyway
mrs. load goes down Sodom goes down gets
flipped we hear echoes of that in the
story of Jonah 40 days from now this
town's gonna be flipped you know people
like oh my god they mean business where
you know that phrase we know that phrase
in this town is brimstone right it
becomes right it literally becomes a
fire principal Holmstrom right right
exactly but the last part of the story
is that load is saved with his two
daughters as two daughters are the ones
that make it alive and guess what they
think they think the world's been
destroyed they think the world's been
destroyed and now it's their job to
repopulate the world and they're in a
cave and guess what there's a bottle of
wine there look at that a number of them
apparently look at that would you quit
can you believe that there's a bottle of
wine in here well that's gonna be good
because what we're gonna do is we're
gonna we're gonna ply
and it is an English great that it
hasn't word like that ply I don't think
there's a word like that you know in in
in in Hebrew that specifically to get
somebody drunk to I'm gonna apply our
Father with wine we're gonna that we're
gonna have relations with them and
thereby repopulate the world
thereby they do create and that indeed
does happen they're create two nations
I'm on and morph who are going to be the
enemies of the Jewish people so well you
know the lote and his offspring in the
end and being being end up though
protected by God kind of at the time of
the Jewish people's are conquering the
Land of Israel they become enemies they
become so far the the distance between
Abraham and load is so far that his that
his ancestry of load becomes the enemies
of the Jewish people and yet and yet and
yet within that there's going to be a
Moabite princess who's going to make her
way back following a poor broken old
lady named the O me and she's gonna come
back to Bethlehem she's gonna marry
she's gonna convert and marry into the
Judean dynasty the dynasty of Judah the
tribe of Judah and and through that is
going to be birthed the seed of of King
David and later on Messiah
mushiya so so in this dark Sodom flipped
upside down in a dark cave with incest
is gonna be born the enemies of the
Jewish people and so to the Messiah of
the world I mean this is one of the
great mysteries of the narrative of the
Torah and also of course one of the
great mysteries of the narrative of
Messiah of Messiah in the world and to
two things that I'm not gonna solve the
problem but there's two things to always
remember when you're looking first
Redemption and they both come from this
story first of all choose life that
whatever we may say about the the the
ugliness of the story of lot and his
daughters it's driven as you said but
that that that fear that life should not
continue and that drive to choose life
as a core drive of who we are as a
people in the world and the other one is
that the secret of Michelle is that God
doesn't need us for the angelic and
perfect side of creation God can have
that so to speak without us we have
is actually the messy broken dirty side
of the human experience because we can
uplift it and offer it to God and so
that's the core message I think that
comes out of this miss Jeff is that a
that choosing life is what allows us to
take that gross dark ugly side of life
and lift it up and through that to bring
Redemption I just I can think of I just
feel like there's a Los Angeles or
Hollywood Jew that's going to be
disgusted by what's happening in Los
Angeles and say to himself you know I
don't want my kid to grow up and Sodom
and Gomorrah I don't want him to do this
and he's gonna make alia and that kid's
gonna cure cancer his son you know or
daughter Aubrey machine right bring me
whatever it is I and I just mean to say
in that like like there can be an anchor
there can be an ah-ha moment here and
also at the same time there's something
that is beyond aha
there's a lot beyond behind one of the
things that really the Kabbalists say is
that the seed of Messiah is so precious
and so much is the hunger for the dark
side to destroy it for Darth Vader to
get this you know Luke Skywalker of
Messiah that it needs to be hidden away
it needs to be hidden away in the dark
places where where where the dark forces
are like it's definitely not here look
there yeah we want to look there you
know where's-where's mushiya Where's
Waldo Kirby Darth Vader that kills the
Emperor Luke very good friends all right
folks there is so much in these Torah
portions but really we talked about big
revolutions in the birth of the temple
and Messiah are hidden hidden in this
Torah portion rabbi Mike for I want to
thank you again for taking time to meet
with me here at partes Institute I
appreciate it so much thank you so much
for being part of the show I flash your
show
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I think I've been a bit recalcitrant at
reading your emails out loud I will
prepare that I have been moving for the
past like year but but but certainly for
the past few months don't slow down yeah
so things are slowly starting to to
settle yeah don't say it well settle for
more right my life yeah my life wasn't
Sodom and Gomorrah not in and not in the
sodomizing sense but in the overturning
the overturning sense and and by the way
the Talmud I want
to myself is it funny that
licentiousness bread also a type of
giant spa that was good for the body and
I found that the Talmud says exactly
that the helmet says exactly those
things that led to a kind of destruction
of the body and we're you know out of
control led to a place where you go to
to actually heal the body so that's
today's Dead Sea and by the way the Land
of Israel does not have the highest
place in the world but it certainly has
the lowest teaches you about the
holiness of the Land of Israel and how
deep we really are there you go
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whatever we're doing we need to be
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crowded that's what we have to do right
now the Dark Horse is one of out
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