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oh okay this is we we're continuing cuz
I didn't know how to pause it so I ended
up stopping it we're stopping just to
discuss this idea where did the B Yakov
get the tone in the barar it's on the
wall it's attached to the wall you just
take it off and click
it that um Dena our sister was
raped and we had two of the tribes shim
Ley came up with the scheme let's they
want since they wanted to uh marry our
sister okay let's give it to them we'll
all intermar provided that they get a
circumcision and we all know that the
third day of the circumcision is most
painful so since they did not have a
system of justice which is one of the
seven no laws According to some opinions
that they were K of Misa for that and um
so the scheme was was uh drafted up
after they circumcised themselves then
will wipe them out now if you go to page
not page but if you go to Genesis
34:28
3428 just like a a little recap of the
story 3428 34 starts off by talking
about Dena and the
rape and if you go uh in the whole story
and we said go to
28 actually maybe um here 25 and it came
to pass on the third day when they were
in pain that two of Jacob's sons shim
Ley dea's Brothers each took his sword
and they came upon the city confidently
and killed every male andur and Shem his
son they killed with the blade of the
sword and they took Dina from shem's
house and left the sons of Jacob Came
Upon the slain and they plundered the
city which had defiled their sister 28
this is the verse their flocks and their
cattle and their donkeys whatever was in
the city and whatever was in the field
they took so we know that these flock
the the sheep and the
cows were originally taken from sh so
why would they go back to this place
that is such a uh um a dangerous place
to graze the cattle that they took from
them to start
with so here the CLE car has this
idea that let them steal them let let
them steal them
back the the brothers were not at all
concerned that if the enemies would rise
up and take back take all their flock
meaning to say like this this is what
they were saying to
themselves if the youngest child Among
Us he ends up getting
double you know what it's not worth
it we're willing to Forfeit our part as
long as he doesn't get his double I mean
that doesn't really make a lot of sense
but there was a jealousy involved and
when you're jealous you don't always
think properly so in order for him not
to get his double we're willing to lose
the whole
stock this way he doesn't get double and
they're willing to give up their part
too that they were willing to give up
and forfeit each one his own portion
in order that yov loses his double
portion crazy but remember was the
original what was the original question
what was yehuda's statement what gain
what financial gain is there by killing
our brother and covering his blood so
we're just beginning we're like opening
up Pandora's Box
here and he says we just got done this
talking about this idea that sometimes
through jealousy someone is willing to
lose so much
Kamas like the story of the jealous
women you know the story of the two
babies I'm sorry the one baby the two
women that
uh then then the the one who was jealous
was willing to have total loss of course
the the real mother stood forward and
said let her have the baby but that's
how
crazy uh jealousy can bring a
person so when they went
to now who's they we're talking about
the brothers
here yov already perceived he felt their
scheme remember they wanted to kill
yoseph but Yakov sends ysep is ysep lore
what do what does Jakob say to his son
his lovely brilliant budding Tom
scholar go now and see the welfare go
check out the welfare how things are
going with your brothers sh and how the
Sheep are doing which sheep
the sheep that were from originally from
those enemies that actually live in that
area I mean that's
what he
knew y
responds now who does he say this too
he's on the way and he runs into a man
this man is Rashi says Gabriel because
there's a a heish you can understand
when it says is is it's talking about
this man in the field so we saw in
the prophets anyway we're not on to that
right
now by him saying I'm looking after my
brothers that's who I'm looking for he
doesn't mention any word about the Sheep
so
a he he was really only looking for his
brothers not concerned or worried about
the
Sheep the even though his father said go
look after the welfare of your brothers
and the welfare of the sheep but what
was his main mission the
brothers
alar that's
why um this is what yob says to ysep
hell is it not that your brothers are
pastoring or shepherding in so the hello
it's a rhetorical it's like is it
not that's exactly what it is is it not
he was actually saying is it not in a
place CU it says is it not in a place
that's very dangerous
and and
dangerous it says rowing B because the
the yakob was aware of their their plot
to get rid of the the wealth of ysep the
jealousy that people were willing to
take upon themselves to let say do
themselves in that they were shepherding
or pasturing in of their their sheep he
doesn't say that he says pastoring
in this comes to tell us that these the
other brothers of Ys were Ro as they
were pastoring themselves meaning they
were having fun they were they had they
had some kind of agenda and they weren't
really even thinking about the Sheep
either they were not even concerned
about the sheep in fact we we saw that
they wanted to get rid of the
sheep according to the reason that we
mentioned above that they wanted to get
rid of the property of ysep along with
their own property because that's the
only way he'll get nothing out of
it it says in verse
20 that the the brother said come let us
kill him nearish what is this coming to
explain it seems like it's
explaining that they were considering
going ra ra is a tattle
bearing this is what they they they
wanted to do we just said they wanted to
kill him come let us kill him and now
we're saying what what kill him it was
just it was just lanara it was ttle
bearing guess
what anyone who goes about tattle
bearing pedaling gossip causes death
causes murder as it says
in men of slander were amongst
you in order to murder that's in Ezekiel
so we see that there's a concept of
leads to
murder
15b that La that speaking evil speech
gossip is it's like a triple murder the
who who's murdered the per there's three
deaths involved it's the person speaking
it's the person listening and the person
being spoken
about that's why it
says when he had not yet approached
before he even came close to
them they INSP inspired they were
inspired to kill
him since they were okay there's a
concept if someone is coming to kill you
what's how does the rest of the sentence
go stand up and kill them first so they
felt remember he was also speaking or
they thought and perceived he was
speaking lushan har against them so yes
when they said come let us kill him it
was perhaps his defense he's talking L
about us which is murder we're going to
kill him first so they took this concept
when someone is coming to kill
you you get up first and kill them and
that's in theor hedin
72 now we understand what it
says before he came close to them to
kill
them so then they conspired to kill him
before he got close enough to to them to
kill them
first now we understanding verse
20 verse 20 we just um it's like a
language of now so in L Zion verse
20 it's a little bit strange
okay so now come and let us kill him and
let us throw him in one of the pits and
we will say a past a wild beast devoured
him and we shall see what will become of
his dreams so it's the second time
they're coming um the first time was
he's coming to them now they're come
they had already
conspired now again they're saying let's
do it already so what does it mean now
ter it's all this language of quick now
immediate immediacy before he comes to
us we have to kill him because this
concept if someone's coming to kill you
you kill them first Z perar the clear
uses this to end a lot of times a
concept the CLE car is the name of the
safer and he says this is a pikar this
is a
very nice dear
explanation okay now we're going to the
next CH next
paragraph Ru heard and he went to save
him from their
hands since he was afraid what was ruven
afraid of lest they pin the whole thing
on him the whole sin is going to be
pinned on Ruan who was Ruan Ruan was the
first born and they thought perhaps he
thought
perhaps if I if he he they're going to
the whole point was to get rid of him
because of this firstborn ship all the
rights that come along with the
firstborn well who who is the what they
call the main suspect right who's got
the biggest motive right who else but
the first born the real firstborn will
the real firstborn pleas please stand
up so he was afraid they're going to pin
it all on
him in order that it would the Bor the
first born ship would return back upon
him the one that was taken away from him
and given to
Y now the you turn the
page this is in verse
26 this is the person we started with
that you have said what financial gain
is there will there be To Us by killing
our brother and covering his blood so
Bish it all works out well every the
theory it works out
well if we had the ability to make this
matter known if we can just publicize
that he was murdered or dead then then
then then there could be a financial
benefit to
us then there would be a financial
benefit since after the fact that the
firstborn status was removed was taken
away
from if so then Ru the also will be
removed the Y
and ysep is
dead remember only if R is also dead
then what will happen then it will
return to I I don't know the word but
then we'll all be on on the same plane
will also all will receive an equal
portion but right
now that we all know that it once Aba
Israel Yakov knows that his favorite son
yoseph has been killed or died he'll
experience a great amount of
pain well we can't be the ones to tell
him right we can't be the ones that are
going to announce it to the
world and if we don't tell him and we
right then all the days he will be in a
doubt that may maybe Yos is still alive
but just
lost well perhaps he was sold to a far
away
country IM and if that's the case we
can't announce
it meaning if we can't prove his death
we can't bring him a body you need a
body right to convict somebody you need
a body a weapon and a motive so I mean
they're trying to stay clear of any
motives cuz then the motives will all
come back to them certainly they don't
have a body maybe they have a bloody rag
but that's about it doesn't tell the
whole story right
so if if that's the case then after our
own father will die so whatever portion
remember that extra portion is going to
be left aside for some Jewish Court to
decide later what to do once it's known
what actually happened to Ys meaning you
need that body as long as that body is
not found that por is going to be put
aside until he comes back from his long
trip and the only way we're going to get
the financial gain is if we produce the
body and that's I mean they remember
they didn't even kill him so how they
going to produce a body
since we already said in front of our
father that he wasn't
dead so in the bottom line in the end of
ends there is no financial gain through
all this through all this there's no
financial
gain let us go and sell them to the
ishmaelites that was the solution okay
how is this a solution to the financial
gain by selling him to the isites we are
going to have financial gain why is
that because once he's sold into slavery
to
the
is isites then he will be a slave
forever there's a concept if you have
slaves which they are your properties
course we don't have any today but the
law still apply if you had a slave and
he acquired something he found a gold
tooth in the street or a gold bar and
who gets the gold bar you were the slave
of course you do cuz your slave whatever
he acquires is yours your possessions
acquire game could work out with same
thing with a car you know some piece of
gold flew into your car your call your
car acquires this heer piece of gold
okay so certainly what will end up
happening is that the our own father
reacquires the transfer of that property
goes back to him in its entirety why
because of this relationship that he has
with Ishmael CU Ishmael is basically as
how I understood it is not necessarily a
personal slave but the enslaved to the
Jewish
people meaning that whatever benefit
there will be to him is that we in the
end will inherit and even though it
comes to the rabo comes to our father
right cuz he's going to acquire it
through his slave Ismael and he's going
to take all that belongs to him if
anybody has a better understanding I
think that's was why were they thinking
that there's going to be a financial
gain if the isim bu acquire ysep as a
slave so then the
slave yesma also is like a slave
to I don't see
yeah that's kind of really strange so
let's try to work this out when they
say let us go and sell him to the
isites then there will be to us this
financial gain
why he will be a slave or enslave to
them forever and once you're acquired by
this guy the guy own the guy owns you
and everything that you own right he
owns you and your property so we're
talking about y's double portion
so at least by the ishmaelites whatever
they acquired because they're his owner
so they they
acquire so certainly to our father
father shall be transferred
his portion entirely well that's if he
understands that he's been sold and then
no even again even if you don't know if
it benefits you the acquisition is is
applicable okay so like my parents don't
sell their on
PES but I can sell it for them because
it's to their benefits I can okay you
can acquire something also in the same
way if it's to the 's benefit even
without them knowing how's this here's a
good example at SI our great great great
great grand parents said yeah we'll do
it we'll do the Mitzvah but not just for
us also for those who were not yet born
what right do they have to obligate Us
in the
Mitzvah the answer has to be because
it's actually in our benefit it's to our
benefit okay
otherwise they wouldn't have the right
to obligate Us in this
Covenant okay but then they to the
fathers that to their father they say
he's been here's his his tun but they
don't say they don't know we'll have to
see the words did they really say we saw
someone pull the trigger we we saw the
dead body no so you don't really have
witnesses so is what happens to his
portion so it goes to the Father the
portion ends up by
Yakov yov is still alive right so now
when Yakov dies it gets evenly
distributed because there is no B
anymore so we try to work this last
piece out he
says then certainly our father is going
to be end up being transferred his
yosef's entire portion
because what benefit would there be to
him if we inherit it the yo and comes
the master and he takes all which is his
so it didn't go to them it went to the
father and then well this is what they
were thinking and then when he dies then
we'll get
it so that's how I see it how exactly is
yishmael emboldened as a as a slave or
as a sub category of Israel that is but
I think that's what he's leaning towards
that is his conclusion I
believe and then we're stuck with this
idea of why did they like who who sold
who to what you have the isi if you look
at the verse or verses you have yesim
you have midianites and you have
traitors so let me find the
verse so if you look at verse
27 actually it's actually verse
25 verse 25 says they sat to eat food
they raised their eyes and they saw
Behold a caravan of ishmaelites so
that's the first thing they saw and
their camels were bearing all these
things and they were on their way down
to Egypt which you might think okay
simple sail sell them to Israelites and
finished but Yuda said to his brothers
our verse okay what gain is
there um so 27 come let us sell him to
the
Israelites this was uh yehuda's idea but
let our hand not be upon him for is our
brother our own flesh which is going to
be very important right now and his
brothers listened mean they accepted the
idea then verse 28 says midianite
men theim
and then it
says
traitors pass by are the midianite men
and the traitors the same
people not sure they pulled up and
brought ysep up from the pit and sold
ysep to the ishmaelites who brought him
up who sold him to the
ishmaelites it sounds like
it's it sounds like it's the brothers
the brothers saw the midianites and the
these Traders passed by and at that
point they pulled him up and sold them
to the ishmaelites but why didn't they
sell them to the isites before like it's
really confusing if you look at it so
and then I'm just going to end with the
last piece over here in the verses then
um ysep Yuan returned to the pit and
ysep was not in the
pit okay and he says the boy's gone and
I where can I go so now in the next few
sentences we're going to discuss all
that it's going to unravel itself very
nicely and regarding this sale to the
ishmaelites and to the midianites
near this seems to be the way it is
explained that the brothers did not want
to sell him except to the is
alone they wouldn't want to sell them to
anybody
else because the isim were their Uncle
basically or great uncle Grand Uncle
great uncle they were the brother of
Y and from the aspect of the familiarity
the the familial relations they felt
that Ismael would have R would have some
mercy
is
perhaps that regarding Ishmael they said
maybe when they use these
words for he is our he is our brother he
is our flesh maybe they were actually
referring to the ismaeli and not
necessarily yose from the language we
see before if you look in Genesis
138 where Abraham is talking about lot
actually speaking to lot he he
says we are men brothers we are so
however but you know
what they didn't want to buy him okay so
we're going back first they sold the
isim then it kind of broke down this
deal and only when the midianites passed
by and these Traders passed by then they
brought him up and sold him to the
because didn't want to buy him at
first they don't do business like that
see Jews make long-term Investments okay
you can hold on to something and it's
going to
gain value but the isi made quick
Deals they weren't fulltime trades they
weren't full-time
tradesmans that they would the way they
worked was they wanted a quick buck so
they would return and they would buy
things and it would go immediately from
one hand to the next
V they had nobody who wanted to buy him
they didn't want to buy
him but when they saw these uh
midianites and these traitors passing by
then the isim saw they have someone who
would purchase them so they returned and
they purchased
ysf then they decided they changed their
mind they wanted to buy him and this is
what it means when it
says that says they drew they pulled him
up and they pulled they they drew him
out from the pit uh yse from the pit and
they sold ysep to the
so like automatically we learn from this
it just comes out that the they sold
them to
the it was like without the knowledge it
was without the will of the brothers
without even their
knowledge and it was the M that went
down and sold him to
potifar there's just an idea the word
passim is a hint to this you
had it's actually in backwards
order pasim is that right or maybe it's
not any order you have pasim is
ptif
is going for
is and the me is the mid is a little bit
of a hint of there okay we're going to
end this last
piece so Ru returned to the pit and
there was nobody there it was
empty and he said an and
I where am I going to go what was
bothering him any any clues at this
point remember he's uh suspect number
one
it was only because of the portion of
the first born that they killed you
remember he doesn't even know he was
gone he was not present he comes back
and he sees he sees that he's gone so he
figures it was only because of the the
status of the first born they killed him
anyway he became sheema
gamain guess what they're going to do
the same thing to me I'm next in line
this is
it they're not going to return to me
the where am I going to go and me where
am I going to
go I'm ready to split and get away as
fast as
possible very
possible on account of this let's say
fear healthy
fear that's why he wanted to save him
originally
when that was his uh Saving Grace that
was why he wanted to save
him okay we're going to turn this off
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