Yalag, R' Yosef Zechariah Stern and the Kutzo Shel Yud Pt. 01

[Music] foreign [Music] welcome back Rabbi Dr liazar brat after last episode on the history and all this forum available on Jose's getting my mind was blown I may have shared maybe I should share I took some notes and the amount of safari and literature that you quoted was just beyond we want to continue we want to focus on one specific safer slash book it's called it was written by a mascal whose name was yalag or my brother will tell us what that stands for and was written as a vicious attack on a tremendous tremendous one of the daily hador of that time who Rabbi brought is very into I don't like calling him that but whenever I brought Heroes um and we're gonna hear about him as well this episode has also been sponsored anonymously a series like to live so thank you to that Anonymous sponsor for sponsoring this episode without further Ado Rabbi Dr liaza brat what do you have in store for today okay so basically we are gonna as you said we're going to continue sort of with what we we began the last episode and last episode we ran through um some of this Farm on gitton especially this also with focus is Farm relating to the names of how to spell names and through this episode we're going to be able to go back to the samdos farm it's going to play out in this episode a deep dive to see what the what the macarists are of this farm that we when this Farm are written on the names of get them where were they relying on what were they makiras it's going to play out in this story that we're going to discuss so basically the story we're going to begin is we're going to say the story very briefly and then we're going to go into all of the various pratham the story is like this there was a Jew um his name was Yehuda lib Gordon I'm going to discuss it momentarily and basically in 1875 he publishes for La even though there's a better word for it we're going to call it a poem it's a long long poem but it's a story in the poem and in the story there's a whole story and a bunch of sub stories relating to a couple um two couples actually and um basically what happens is that she's supposed to get a get that waiting for a get and it comes up with the how to spell the name Hillel it plays out in the story which will and we'll discuss exactly what it says in this poem and his what he writes as his sources for it um that will be the so that that's the story we'll and we'll discuss more about what the story is and then after that we'll see what he brought in his poem even he brings the sparm that we mentioned last week and we'll be able to see more about it how it plays out with hello what he was talking about okay so let's go like this number one is I begin with yalag yalag is a person born in Vilma in the early 1830s and he dies in 1892. um the kids are he because today um at least in the from World many people never heard of him but in those days he was beyond famous so now the question is has become famous basically he was one of these people that wrote a lot he wrote all types of stuff he wrote poetry and he wrote articles of all types and all the different newspapers mostly in Hebrew but also in Russian at the time he's a very big spokesperson he had a lot to say um today we would call him a very big he would be similar to a very big blogger yeah um he'd be a blogger tumbling about all the different things the hard issues of the day now it doesn't mean to say that he did um there were a lot of issues in those days just like there's always issues and he and he spoke about it very sometimes very uh um harshly it was critical of a lot of different things um that were going on in that period of time now to just give a drop of background to understand this like this he was born in Vilma he said so now he learns by a talmud of for the first few years his father sends him off in vilna he gets tutored he gets a tremendous knowledge of tanakhan diktok okay now we know besides for um the various just to clarify he was born he said he got knowledge of tomat and diktok yeah yeah oh yeah I'm gonna explain in a second we're gonna give exactly what's going on so he's born in Finland as I said in 1830s and he is he's from at this point his father was from and he gets a real from upbringing he goes a traditional Haider it's a very good at pointing this out it's very very important he goes to traditional Crader and he and as I said his tutor was a from and very hush of a prominent talmud of replying that was a known tutor in the time it seems his father at that time did have a little money so he was able to send them dafka to this tutor and because of this he got besides for he got a very solid early on um education based on um Tommy they had Villages which was that amongst other things is to know tanak Wells he didn't just learn homish well he learned tanakwell and he also learned the Hebrew language diktok also that that he didn't learn anything else but the point was this helped him give him a strong background which we know the grass held very strongly of um like the Mishra novice that that's where how the education system's supposed to be you first Master tanach before you moving on to gamar so he gets this very strong background at the young age from a very prominent person at the time uh I mean a prominent person that knew how to teach tell me them very well okay basically um there are different descriptions Lots has been written a lot has been written about this this but in interestingly in in he wrote a lot of letters amongst everything else that he wrote he had letters correspondences of different people so in a letter which seems to be that he's like being very pessimistic about people that write autobiographies I guess the guy asked him to give him his life history so he in a cynical way he was a very cynical person he gives his autobiography of his early years but it's also been um in other places also it seems that this is all true so he talks about what I just mentioned there he gets this learning um he gets he's he's he learns very well but he also learns gamara very very well for many years I mean many years is let's say from the age of nine um he says that at the age of 13 he already finished above us very well um and he knew hundreds of black gemara they thought he was going to be a great guy supposedly the person that raised him as a little kids met him later on in life and she saw him she and he at that time he was really a famous poet and writer and she's all upset saying we thought you're going to be a goggle and this is what you become um you know poet and everything and he's like who's all proud of himself that he became a poet and everything anyway make a long story short he has a he what the significance over here is he has a bring upbringing in when by Tommy 17 he basically has finished shots he's learned in yeshivas and everything like all like many other not yeshivas but in the closing in the various places in Vilma so he has so what's important over here is that and it's not always emphasizes he has a real background which a lot of times mosquila did not necessarily have real backgrounds especially um he has a serious background in learning and that's how we he and he enhances it by learning other languages and everything but he knew Tanakh very well and he was very good with languages and he knew at least learned at one point in his life um and the point is with that he was able to you he's using this in his various writings when he's attacked he's a learned person again learn it is obviously relative he's not we're not talking about that he's Adam Godel we're going up against the Godzilla such as the person he's going up against a lot of the times is revasive's highest turn but he's a knowledgeable person he's not amarus that's the key words he's not our marriage because sometimes he'll say what do they have to say so he's able to it makes it much worse he's an evil in a way these type of people are much worse because they're educated so they know how to find what the harp on and then they could make a whole thing from that so anyway there's a lot to discuss about askala at that time has Colin vilna as a post Haskell of Germany what the difference is that we're not trying to conquer kala terracula of this sugiya on this era in such a short period of time in this short episode I'm just trying to give a small taste the point I'm trying to bring out is he was a learning person that's all now eventually he gets exposed to cascala um like the typical story which happened to many many people hide various literatures on he's exposed to the earlier muscular milna which many of them were actually from its his people at the time the first general especially the first generation of masculine vilna he was also exposed this through a brother-in-law his sister married a guy that was sitting and learning for a bunch of years this guy was also learned but he was he already had a pesach he was getting involved with these early masculine and what they were doing is they would be hiding literatures of different things under their gemara and the story that you always hear about is a typical story also plays out with him anyway point is he gets exposed to everything but the difference between him and many others is he becomes famous one of the most famous people in that period of time for the next 50 60 years he's one of the people all the newspapers he's always getting involved with with everything okay now now when I say a poem when he writes a poem so you know you think like this boring little poem you know sometimes when you read poems depending on your education so you're like okay I don't even understand the word what this what this poet is even trying to say here in this poet it's very well written it gives a very good portrayal of Life at the time um it's using he's he's a person that's growing up in Vilma and Lita so he's very he knows he's not like talking about something that didn't happen whatever he knows the background he knows all the different hug him and everything's being thrown in to this piece that he uses over here and many other pieces of his and it's not a short little poem there's a version on the internet one can find it it with the English translation it's I mean obviously it's big letters but it's many people it's many pages to publish if someone wants to print out the whole story the whole this whole poem because it's really a story with all different things it's if law and we're not going to discuss all the different aspects there are actually books written on this articles written on this has been discussed for years and years this made it basically made him once he published this poem in 1875 in the pretty much evil I would call it evil Journal called he he it's been discussed endlessly um endlessly endlessly now um now there's a person that devoted a lot of time wrote a book called for whom do I toil Drew to leave Gordon and the crisis of Russian jewelry Michael lewski so he wrote a whole fancy book a bunch of years back it's Irish everything about Gordon and all his writings he went through in Hebrew Yiddish and Russian also anyway basically he um talks about well um point is we don't get we won't read the quotes but the point is that this poem becomes a very very everyone's reading it now and I'm going to quote more I'm going to give you a background what the story is in a second but the point is he's using it to discuss life from Lita very Vivid and he's also discussing a problem at the time which is the plight of the woman um you know women were an educated at this period of time in the 1870s so he's harping on that aspect throwing that in how hard it is for women for from women how they got to do everything and he's also harping on you know her the in the story this lady she's a she's a very special lady she gets married to a maturian at the time or her father wants her to marry him who ends up going to learn valuation for a few years so everyone's like all jealous of her and you could see from all different things he's harping on he's trying to poke at an encynical way making fun of the way of life that was going on but he's using it in what he calls because he's trying to bring out the plight of the lady one of the ways that masculine were very fond of um and a lot of it sparked from this poem actually is the harp on the schwera sugya which paiskin lost sleepover and and anyone familiar with the world this is a terrible situation how to be MATA ragunas in all the different situations that they that they found themselves over the years it's it's a complex sugil so he being the critical I guess we'll use evil but I'm not going to say evil because in some way he was he he had some good intentions with it but the point is that he's harping on these things that he's a learning person knows about to bring out this point of the of the how a woman could become an aguna even from where get was actually given okay so now what's the story what does he say basically um basically this this someone gets involved it turns out this husband ran away he's living in Liverpool and so a man gets involved in vilna he pays off turns out her husband's willing to give a get if she pays if he pays a few hundred a few hundred dollars so he does that without her knowing so again obviously he's trying to bring out a point with that aspect kids are there waiting for the guest to come and basically he and I think the point was he was going to marry he's gonna end up marrying this woman after she gets to get he was a from yid they're just waiting for a gift what happens so the way the story goes in as um waiting they open up the letters to get to see the get that everything should be written properly waiting from Liverpool foreign comes and then what happens what goes wrong hold on what goes wrong is I lost the paper hold on yeah the kids are they check and they see how the word hello is spelled and it says like this the get is Hillel is spelled without a union so the dying one dying who's a macabo this is how um yalag writes that that's the right way so she's it's a good get gamma Shani the other dying says everything is spelled with lamid this is a this is a line from Zam and the Sam who's the Zam and the samurai names and the point was this husband just died in a boat accident right before so if this cat would have been good it would have been great so he couldn't even go get a nougat to write hello I'll be this thing tragic story blah blah okay fine but the point is what's in the key thing is what a this learning mask it brings in a middle a reason okay now so we'll get um shortly um we'll get back to that the point is the the rabbi that he's sort of making fun of he admitted it openly and everything so who's replaces the highest turn that we'll discuss him briefly right now and then we'll get back to the story of how to spell hello so racism come out the same age he's born the same time as yelag 1831 1903 he lives a little longer than yalag and he's a great great guy and his father was a great guy and his father seems to be his main Rabbi his father dies young anyway he marries the daughter of her Martinez and a great going in his own right anyway the kids are eventually he's a Rob he gets he becomes a RAV at 20 which is not so common but by the age of 30 he gets a stellar and chavel and he remains the rav there for 40 years it's very unheard of for RAV to become the Rob in a city like shavo it's one of the biggest it's a city it's not a Statler and he's there for 40 years um basically he had a miserable life there they weren't happy with him he wasn't happy with them but he stayed there he was mamished in poverty the whole time there's documented articles about how miserable it was for him over there with the salaries the various fights that he had with the different people in the kihilus and he was a very sick person he was health-wise he was very he most of the time had to be confined to his bed um he wasn't able to down with the in the in the mignonim giving shirom all the time but he was available to answer questions and he and he definitely answered questions as we're going to see in a moment now this so just first to discuss how are you for a minute and then we'll discuss some eyewitness accounts with him and then we'll get to um and move on basically this is the highest turn is beyond beyond prolific already at the young age he publishes a safer on on maharas on chess not in all of Shas mostly moyed myself this but I suspect he also wanted to show that he's not just the married guy he throws in a bun a nice amount of material on your vamos this safer is his first publication when he's very young and um and basically people that look at it were blown away at the time and I'm going to explain to you why they were blown away but just to note the author of The Terrace Yakov who we spoke about in the early in the first episode when the Great curdling of the time he was not the type of person that praised people so fast he writes he he speaks to him he sees him he says he's Blown Away by his now just understand this is no exaggeration this is a person that was a walking encyclopedia knew everything published at the time and you follow and you read Dave barish maisels a great guy in himself worthy of his own discussion he says I spoke to this I'm Blown Away by him and it seems he had many more asgamas in his Forum but he didn't publish them whatever reason anyway he writes on everything literally on everything in the so much so that a problem that many people had in general is you could write a lot but you need to get funding this is a problem you have to find you can write as much as you want but you got to get funding to publish what you have so he was always looking for someone to publish to fund his materials in the back of his chuvis so he puts out four volumes on archeim he's successful in publishing it it's a back of one point he gives a list of what he has at arosan and he's willing to give it away for free whoever is willing to publish it in their own's Farm what's the topics you have to hear this list he goes that means on every page he has ours you shall me foreign this is all him talking then he says I have a Hebrews and in this I have a whole Hebrew about more than 160 names that I got from all different places in chastains up all types of steers besides all this I have a Hebrew God Asylum and others you get the point whatever you want the kids are this guy has Horus and Tyra and everything now so you'll say he's exaggerating let me tell you my friend you spend five minutes with any two pages in any of his farm and you will see something you never saw in your life before what he's bringing the literature from literally everywhere in Kalo tarakula he knows everything he knows that's called literature so he knows every newspaper article at the time it's like he read an article he was able to quote it the stories go that when the micro's farm would come um to sell swarm in Chavo so sometimes he would look at a safer and then he would go to the guy here's the money says Hey here take the Savior goes no no I finished the safer I don't need the safer but I but I read you say first I have to pay you money for it and this happened not once not twice and you could see it's clear that he had a complete Total Recall from his stuff it seems at one point there was a fire and the fire destroyed a lot of his stuff he rewrote it now a lot of it Hashem survived in some different places but Mahoney we have to give them unbelievable credit many years ago and this true for safer is going to play significant damn story they published from he publishes only what about the rest of so evaneser Mahoney schlein published many years ago what are these two of us called Joseph and and then more recently they redid the archim truvis and then they read and then they published for the first time for manuscript Yara data so first evidence is from manuscript archimed that we did with new materials and and your Daya is all new material so they print the five volumes of this great guy he also wrote who was published fascinating he has under on the McGillis unbelievable and he's holding in everything I mean is he knows history he knows every I I I I I have lists just of this farm that he quotes every time I look I'm like oh my gosh he knows this he knows that everything anyway um point is one of his most unique kiburon was something called This is a mind-blowing work could I to learn it's published in the back of the four his volume fourth volume on archeim for some reason didn't want to reprint it I suspect there's a few reasons behind it I actually spoke to them trying to get them to to do it maybe they would do it in the end they don't think they're gonna do it it's a lot of time to do I have a Hello to do such a thing but my Halloween is a greater well and that relates again I'm going to see how it plays out in our story he used to write in the newspapers at the time pages and Pages like all different issues he wrote Iris so I always wanted to collect all the materials that I found in these newspapers I'm talking about hundreds and hundreds of articles so a few years back a professor took on a certain topic which we're going to discuss very shortly some of it a few hundred Pages it was published um this is not found in your local farm store so I just have to show the picture it's called here this fellow this academic his name is you the Freelander barilan press publishes it went and got at least in one sugya a numerous numerous newspaper articles the highest term wrote in defense against the masculum which we'll discuss momentarily point is beyond prolific okay now so why does he pick releases the heister so this is um a question which how have I we had a great answer it seems he knew him he didn't like him uh maybe there was even a personal story that that that because of the personal story um that bothered him because sir it's unclear why he chose revises Zachary's turn at least that's what a lot of the people that discussed the topic um said this one of the academic not academic but a very fine collection of material Army Stern is from Robina and he wrote he wrote a collector of all different materials relaying Services Harris so um the kids are it seems that at one point they asked they they asked yalad did you mean his turn yes um why okay he didn't give a good answer he asked him and not only that they asked them you know their basic highest turn is not the way you're portraying him and he said yeah so why did you pick her against how you Stern to make fun of so he said a poet doesn't write history so he was admitting so to speak that doesn't not everything has to be accurate so so even though the life that he's portraying and the issues he's trying to bring out and not only that we're going to see the sources he's using about the spelling of Hillel is accurate but the god though the story didn't happen so that's part of what the a novel writer so to speak is and this is a novel in the sort of a poem so he was admitting it but but the point is something triggered that he did not like Rebecca I think the answer is very simple and I basically just alluded to it we basically stern was was one of the dailymaproaches how to deal with evil people with muskelum and what I mean these masculum I'm gonna explain to you why they're evil some of these masculine especially at this time they wrote in the newspapers the newspapers is becoming a very big thing at this period of time and they would attack you this guy openly viciously now who's reading newspapers everyone you say they're the blogs of those days so these masculum would take some of them will learn it they would take certain things and they would write you know a few different pieces and now if you have a regular joshmo with not a proper learning or not a you know he reads this article he doesn't know that this guy might be making up something or who knows what and he could get it could cause tremendous um the the Fallout could be terrible so there's different approaches so sometimes you'll find that they don't say we don't say anything we don't get involved we're not going to help anything anyway you do at that time felt yes to answer them and there was an attack in those years starting in 1869 one of the great musculum at that time um when I say great I don't mean that he was a great person he was just a famous Moscow also someone that was originally Yeshiva trained but I don't think he was anything close to as good as Gordon but also vicious person his name is Maisha Lilman and my children literally sits and attacks with tons of examples for pages and pages and newspapers so the rabbi said no no no no we're going to respond who was one of the main people that responded to this fight reviews answers ambitiously now the problem is that if you see how everybody's highest and rights and you're a regularity you're not going to really understand Ruby is trying to answer because he's just throwing color akula all over the place understood but and the intellectuals understood but the masculine the the regular Joe Schmo was reading it he's like look the rabbis were attacked about this meaning that it's baloney or whatever which is a lot of times what happens when the when the uneducated read get involved in the playing field so it becomes the Mick vanius and the tumble and the shul and the Rabbit doesn't know he's talking about anyways kids are the rabbi they're abundant at the time got involved and they wrote major responses and and I think that was one of the reasons he was really picking on him now but it happens to be that yelag wrote a ton and he attacked plenty of rub on him and what he attacked he had to raise the highest in another place and he has in this in one of his essays he attacks a bunch of rub on him and he gives a bunch of different stories and different things bothered him Lamar should there's a whole theme about kidneys kidney is always played out in college Israel but there were times that literally people didn't have what to eat and still certain my bottom were very much about it for whatever reasons this is a very complex Sugi which is worthy to go through a different time she was very he was fire against her in certain periods of time people were bombers dying so he would ride in the press and he wasn't the only Master they really LED battles fighting what's going on at the time okay anyway make a long story short so this review is the highest turn is this um this tremendous um and sadly um what's his name yalag decides to pick on him in this thing that basically becomes very famous with him now I'm just going to quote three three um sources about this and then we'll get into how to spell Hill to go further into the story so first of all the Marshall um the srideesh he has a piece a beautiful piece somewhere in um one of his articles where he talks about he says lamisa zakai Stern who won out he says Pasha who's more famous today no one knows who yalag is whereas he everyone knows you look at his foreign not that many people know who your love is okay that's number one number two is is that fascinating encounter and this gives a little just um I'm just quoting it because it gives a little bit about um a live account of rebeccaister and there are many but this one is like this this is Benson dinar we're not going to get into him but he learns and tells basically and then he become he goes off and he becomes a professor in Hebrew University schizo when he's leaving tells on the way so in those days they would go visit kadalum on the way you know just to see so he goes with his brother to visit and they pop in by race turn I told you his guy's turn was a you that was sick and he didn't really speak to people he barely died with minion and everything but they decided they're gonna get in and they told the people around them please let us in to Serious guy's turn it seems they caught him in a good mood where are you coming from he says from tells he goes okay what cheer did you learn so he says so he says to them so what did you learn what did you learn did you learn any gemara obviously he's making fun of because um okay now then he says how many how much how many blocked did you learn in your life he's obviously making fun of because it's known yes a lot of times they learned so so they said no we learned a lot now he didn't want to say that he learned a lot it happens to be been seen dinner I learned a crazy amount over a thousand blah but he did not want to discuss that I guess he's scared is that maybe because he's gonna start to for her anyway um consider they have a whole conversation they start talking London and then he asks them do you look at all in the Messiah when you're learning um um then somehow comes up to you learn nadarin did you learn the Dharma Duran okay the whole time and and he he makes fun of them again for being isocal and excise anyway but they said um he ends up um they end up talking around learning he's very happy with them and the point was that the the people around them were very impressive so reviews usually very sick and he's very shocked he felt he wanted to give physics so he was in a good mood and they had a great time they had a great conversation and it had a major impact on his Benson dealer and so much so he said that when he read the kutes he felt very bad because he saw his turn live and he saw that it's not true at all is not that rough but we're gonna see soon how far bologna yalag was in this Prat with Rebecca okay I just one last practice about this with um with uh with with is I mentioned already a few times that I use to publish a work collected all the writings of Aid Maisha reiners the son of a beautiful rhinus who died sadly at the age of 20. I I spent time and I published collected his many writings this young 20 year old wrote you could see this amount of material and more by the time he was 20. I collected it from all over well of the world different places stuff that was published in newspapers and letters there were different archives anyway but kids are he writes he also was very busy dealing with the Clash of Scholars any good from a skull of everyone it's called not for now and he writes also that even though the show you it hurts when you read it but there's a lot of fascinating information in in the cutest and he actually has letters with Gordon which I published here that I found and in these letters sorry in these letters he um you could see that already at that time is the safium of Gordon which is is it sounds like he's not from but he says in Deus we might be similar but from kite um Ryan is writing about himself okay anyway um okay so now so first so we've given some type of very rough um a portrait portrait of these two figures obviously is a lot behind him a lot to discuss more but we're not trying to do Carl Terrace as I said already so now what is that I'm trying to do is the story what what's the sources for I said he quotes reasons what's the sources for um yalag in this poem okay so last time we mentioned like this that this virus get them so if one opens up and you want to know how do you spell hello so it says like this it's often a Sith okay so it sounds like from the Rama we could hear either way and uh brings down that you should write it with you should write it Molly now everyone knows when you want to learn mukhabra what do you do you open up the base it says if he says [Music] it says impossible and it says over there in the Messiah it says it's the russianism like this I'm a serious question so he's bringing down a source and what's the source so turns out last week and I'm going to explain what it says in the source also um I'm not just going to read it we last week you said the father of so to speak of these type of protemos based a lot of his Material off the safer quoting even quoting summations at the end of in calling it to say there again Margolis and this is the go-to safer for for the starting point in all the as far now does the base Series have the safer it seems pretty much that he does not somehow he had this piece Rush date over here so it says hello in the safer you spell it hello now the safer sederer Margolis had another part and over there there's a haga and Naga is quoted from the Mario and it goes like this how do you spell hello Molly or haser dining with a yude without you so so now this gets to the heart of the topic that we're talking about how does any place in those days how did they know how to spell something right now we have often right throughout says okay so what do you do so obviously we have a book called Tanakh so we open up our Tana to see if we could find anywhere where it says hello so we find this Apostle construction parakeet base prosecuted giml and then again in positive test it says how is it spelled so you open up your standard thing it says hello so what happens my rule says the Maru brings down it says bashem de mayo and this is okay great so that's how you would say you should spell it always haser often a passing what more do you need but there's a thing called the Messiah okay this causes problems and because of that all hillels should be spelled with a yud this possum obviously what am I talking about Messiah what what happens I'm saying Chinese let me get to this and explain this more in a second so basically what comes out from this Rebecca margolas how would you spell Hillel based on this my real Molly then it goes on and says like this how to spell hello from the end of the Torah well it was it says wow um also it says so you're seeing that there's there's one rias based on the Messiah which we're going to explain what that means in a second another area is this funny type of ramazim that litfak would say this is what you hear this is going to be the way you're going to pass gonna get hello spell again very strange okay we open up um but the point is as I state in Rebecca mangos I'm sure those who already may have heard the whole source with 12 lines in a get constant like places on the first daf in the sectors get there in the 12 lines get this geometry of 12. Texas has another shot that's the amount of space between all the kamehame how they're separated besides with varum four lines between the three separations of 12. so correct we see this connection already is are you the Shiloh which also plays over there isn't going to password again over here we're seeing that piece we're gonna go actually get that's spelled a little wrong because of such a type of thing okay now it's fascinating now now the base Yusuf so we said the base of brings down matasikasu so to my real um how he had the Murillo I don't have the answer to no no one has the answer for that question but you had it somehow then he says what's that that that's how our study later Incorporated uh artist that he had after publishing environarily it's wrong we learn there's no other hillels and the way one should spell it is hasser like it is over there mean to say there's a Dion how to understand the Messiah okay so I keep on saying the word Messiah without further ado let me just give a drop of background then we can understand the more of the story let me I apologize it's with the pages floating all over the place okay like this so there's a nice called Messiah and we're not gonna we're not attempting today right now in these few minutes left to discuss go through all the aspects of what the Messiah is we're just going to quote a lotion basically is this is from Israel yabin one of the world Experts of the past generation of the Messiah what is it he says like this how do you preserve the Tyra how do we know the exact way how to spell everything Marshall everything in the terror over the centuries how is it preserve that we have it but the way it was all the way back how was this preserved the answer is through the Messiah it was a special listing and they would tell us let's say hello how to spell hello and many such David is and in hillcresten turns out that one has to have major knowledge of Messiah and that's the way if you're if if the word has it in the Messiah you find it in Tanakh you have to obviously know Tana you open up the attack and you would see how it's spelled there now fine great so so now but what's coming out is that there's how to learn the Messiah this is how the Messiah wasn't such an open shot as a matter of fact if you go over to you today and say I want to learn the Messiah I want to see the Messiah what's it even referring to not so easy you're not gonna be able to get a good answer to that question and we're not we're going to discuss a little bit about this but um we're not going to have a good answer for that now that's its own separate episodes not negative but the point is over here you're seeing right away that the way Rebecca of Margolis is bringing that machine in my real one-way how to understand the Messiah and the basis is coming out a completely different way I had to understand this two words in the Messiah do and what's coming out is that do we learn from the Messiah you spell hello or Malay that's how um is in these two words it could go either way fine make a long story short there's a lot to say um as I said a lot of ramazim now let's look at the the Marshall mushroom so we said the yamshaimler is published later on so couldn't play a role at this time but actually here it does he says like this he says on one hand I find hello Molly another place that says hello then he brings say Sir shifter and he says then he says like this maybe you'll tell me you could bring a Raya from the gamaras how it spells hello and we'll get back to that also says no you can't bring Araya from fuss okay we'll discuss that more soon then he brings down this whole discussion that we brought down from yaka Margolis he has it from a maril um how to learn the shot in the in the um in the Messiah we're relating to Pastor shifter yeah sorry shifth dim in the navi okay and he also gradually brings down the other Amazon that we said that I said some some cynical say it sounds like okay so martial is also bringing it down fine anyways because as you go through all the pie skin you'll see everyone's bringing this down um uel just to quote to be schmuel you said the Bismol has he's he became the go-to safer what happened is that he used previous literature that was out there [Music] um he got um and and he and then he made like sort of an encyclopedia and you'll see in chocolate after in Simmons a listing of how to spell all the names and he writes his sources so we'll read the entry of Hilo he says how do you spell hello unless you have a Kabbalah that you spelled your name hello then he says safer Shameless cause of the Ageless the safe hashema says whatever this is above my pay grade um somehow has some kabbalistic thing from the arizao and basically he says you should write it then he brings down the Tamar it says like this and the basically and then he says as a this is so he says so first he's bringing the basements bringing from he is bringing from the marit from the base from the safer Shameless star Rizal one way and then he says Nope say what's going on what's going on but now who is the Zam and the Sam so if you remember last week one of the earliest sources that the that the was a macarth for the basement was I say for Maisha talmud of who the Raman de martial so in his safe he puts an encyclopedic list of names and he passkins like that so he's earlier than to say for Shea moist and he brings down to write it like that so he wants to pass him like him Uber Sam who's the psalm so he said if you open up there's a they saying so these later they went like that so that's why it's like who these later sources that he had from um and you basically should write it Molly but what's fascinating is you see here some people would say one second let's read this carefully he's going against a Rizal for these three people so obviously this is a much greater question not we're not going to go into right now now as I said and we said this last time has endless amounts of material turns out this topic the amount that one could write on just how to spell hello there's another Mario up till now according to my real one way does not have my real but this Mario only came to light in the seventh 1970s from any script and it seems to be completely differently um not like the way the Murrell a different Mama but also handling the same succulent now what's going on turns out like this you open up your looking at your very carefully and everyone knows there's a yield on this is a safer called the birhagra state that he's referring to the sack of abiak of Margolis based on machine de maril that he's brought down on the pages where someone wanted to bring a riot from Messiah says The Villages [Music] he doesn't have a blasted clue about he does not read the Messiah and then he says the villain says he has to learn you have to learn ripe shot and how to read the makes a suggestion and says how to read it and then it says even further um he says he has a different points it's always haser and then he says basically the villain says like the like the sack of who the better which was you gotta understand how to read you're reading the Messiah wrong and what it's haser it talks about Hill also and over there we see Taco that hello is spelled hasser what does this mean so I said you have to have a vast knowledge of Tanakh so you open up you'll pass a gimmo over there it says kilo Russia and over there attack on the Messiah says that that's how it's spelled with a Hillel with haser so this is the exactly when we're going so you see here first of all he's saying a very sharp thing you have to know how to read the target the Messiah saying I do he's suggesting that there's a mistake it happens to be if you'll open up your work wherever work you have so I was using my um 15 from the 1500s were the first place where the Messiah was published there's nothing in shift him there so it's interesting over here this whole deal of how to spell hello about shaifton that the price can bring him down and arrow Messiah as far as we have from printed doesn't even exist anyway fine but the vulgarian says but we have a messiah Katana also this relates the same as the same type of Hebrews Mysterio whatever not getting the differences and over here it says often to Hill him that it's spelled hello okay obviously there's two other there's a passage okay we're not as I said I'm not going into over here there's a fascinating Manchester there's the um there's a beautiful piece in the get partial there's a fascinating true I said my real desert of emden I I can't I have rahmanus on everyone but I can't list out everything okay so now I just want to deep so now we're gonna go back to explaining yalag a few more um and to get closer to the end it's like this so now we understand when he's talking about the Rizal we know the best where's the source of the Ariza from the base we're gonna discuss in a minute now we know and now we know what the Russian table is and the Sam is the safer say the gift of okay so basically we identified who yalag was referring to in this poem of his in this farm and that he's referring to and Amir tashem um time has run out so we have rahmanas we're just gonna clarify briefly a few points related to this in the next episode and to conclude with what reviews is the highest Stern held about this topic because we're going to see how full of baloney yalag was really okay okay thank you very much Rabbi Dr Eleazar brat that was a fascinating episode teaching us about people good people who have the bad people in the previous generations and we're looking forward to more on the next episode and the News safer what's me doing safer we'll do that the next episode because it relates to the what we're going to talk about okay looking forward to part two on your lags is the highest turn