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Yaakov Lehman - Technology, Mindfulness, and the Spiritual Dawning of the Digital Age
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everybody thank you thank you cynthia
cynthia um not chief executive officer
chief executive integrator integrator
we're trying to build an integrative
approach to life here so doing my best
to integrate um i actually had a hasidic
rabbi tell me once the worst thing ever
to happen to i don't know how to say
this in english
is that well he said the worst thing to
ever happen is it turned into a religion
this is a hasidic rabbi a long beard
peas big furry strimal
and he says religion is completely
asuras perbidded prohibited in torah
consciousness
and he says really the model is to be a
dancer
true because religion is dogma you're
not no joke religious dogma looking
straight down and not and to be a dancer
you have to be attuned to the the melody
being played for each different
situation
so i try to be a dancer myself i
oftentimes introduce myself as a dancer
people have no idea what i'm talking
about but i do and that's a bit of my
integrative dance
um i do have a company called wisdom
tribe ancient wisdom optimized for the
digital age and we're trying to build a
bridge both through digital media as
well as experiential education events
retreats
between ancient jewish wisdom and the
global mindfulness movement which we'll
get into
um just setting the frame i think
cynthia laid down a really great
introduction that we are living in very
exciting times
we're in a new epic of global history
i spent uh
six years i did two master's degrees in
the study of globalization global
history studying mandarin chinese as
well really focusing on east asia before
i had any connection to israel or to
judaism
i traveled to some 50 countries spoke
mandarin
and i was really interested and still am
very interested in the globe and in
global processes
and i think anybody can tell you know
you'll really look around in 2015
in 57 75
76 i believe
uh we are entering an exciting new time
um which scholars are referring to as
the digital age right this kind of an
outgrowth of post-modernity we'll maybe
get into that in a little bit uh but i
think a really great way to start this
conversation uh and it's a conversation
i'm having here in tel aviv for the
first time but just got back from a
month-long trip in america um
speaking at everywhere between
conferences in hawaii to um
was at
jewish teen events i was teaching tai
chi i'm a tai chi teacher which is a
form of mindfulness to eighth graders
seventh graders
young professionals in toronto
high schoolers in columbus ohio
i was at the mindfulness leadership
summit in dc last week
so it's a conversation that i'm really
opening up with with a lot of exciting
new people but it's really really great
to be here in tel aviv so as an opener
for the conversation this is going to be
the participatory section of the talk
and i'm going to ask a few questions and
really want to hear what your guys's
opinion are what you guys have to say
about this so
first question
show of hands
who here first thing they did when they
woke up this morning was pull out their
smartphone
and maybe didn't require pulling out
because by the bedside and and the last
the last thing you did before bed i will
put my hands up as well
okay
we are attached yes we are so when you
have a friend of mine who goes around
giving best practices for life in the
digital age some of us don't have
smartphones some of us don't have
smartphones
so my friend gave a great piece of
advice to people who do have smartphones
which is a new piece of disruptive
technology called the alarm clock
right anybody heard of that right the
alarm clock is a very practical way to
wake up in the morning and not be
dragged into a series of uh you know
feeds where we're getting liked we're
checking out the snapchat stories maybe
this is not the snapchat generation but
it's a hot topic in america
so um
get a smartphone first thing i did wake
up in the morning is look at my
smartphone we had about half the people
okay
who here experiences phantom vibrations
on a regular basis what is a phantom
vibration you think your phone is
ringing
it's vibrating it's not
show of hands
the phantom ring vibration okay now
interesting research coming out looking
at what technology the the impact
technology is having on our
neuropsychological structures and it
turns out the same neuroreceptor that's
released i don't know when somebody's
smoking a cigarette shooting up heroin
dopamine people have heard of the
neuroreceptor dopamine it floods uh the
synaptic cleft
with this neurotransmitter and when it's
released it causes a a desire a yearning
an addiction
so uh people you know we're more used to
in in the drug and alcohol field that
people are getting itches or getting
cravings for their fix but for anyone
experiencing a phantom vibration it's
along that same wavelength it's touching
on your dopamine uh feedback loop
so phantom vibrations are thing here's
another interesting one that i didn't
even know until i started speaking to
college students and high school kids
how many people in the room will admit
in public
to checking their phone
just to avoid an awkward social
situation
people do that yeah right maybe to
pretend to shoot a text it's an obvious
thing yeah
right my brother works for the phoenix
suns he says there's a receptionist that
he just does not want to speak to and
every day he comes into the office oh
wow i have to shoot a text out right now
right
that's it boom no conversation it's
interesting there's been a lot of
research in
this
there's there's an understanding that
we're really going through a major
transition demographically
most people i'm looking around in this
room are digital immigrants
okay
now we speak of an immigrant right we
think maybe in america right the old
eastern european jew the immigrant he
has a funny accent like she doesn't
really know what's flying something a
relic of the old country
excuse me
yes
it's okay now now we the anglos are the
immigrants it's okay now we're in israel
we can flip it around right the funny
anglos who never really learn hebrew and
who think they can get along and hang
out in their own little bubbles i am one
of those
we're immigrants but but we're
there's there's another platform to to
analyze this digital immigrants versus
digital natives
now it's known in immigrant communities
the children
seamlessly integrate and and uh you know
the language of the country is their
lingua franca they've grown up with that
and when you guys speak to high
schoolers college students millennial
age digital natives
you're dealing with a completely
different psychological operating system
because technology is their lingua
franca
they're digital natives
right it's it's it's the substrate that
they exist in for us it's oh a new piece
of technology for them it's just part
and parcel of life it's like the oxygen
they breathe or as they say a fish you
know fish looks to another fish and says
what's water you know they're talking
about water they don't have any concept
of water it's it's their substrate
so
there's been a lot of research on
digital natives and empathy
our digital native is really being
trained and developing the same
empathetic skills to relate to other
human beings as once was
the answer apparently the jury's still
out there's a lot of research to be done
but early indicators say no
and this facet of you know ducking out
of a social situation through the
sweet soothing comfort of your digital
device oh where is that where is it
is an interesting phenomenon to talk
about okay let's go into another
question here
show of hands who thinks techno
technology is making us as a species
overall smarter
smarter
our cognitive faculties are strengthened
by technology do you wanna you wanna
share why you think so
i have this discussion with my children
and i
i i've had it's interesting so it's just
what i believe number one
um
but i think if you took a picture of my
children's brains at the age of
13.
a picture of my brain at my age at 13
i bet they would be wired differently
than i was
because i we didn't know we didn't have
this stuff absolutely the questions in
what ways
it makes me number one i i i believe we
become all collectively more creative
and expressive
and in doing so i think it it just
i think we've become
more intelligent and the other thing is
i believe that we're all connecting in
other ways
be it spiritually or uh
this way and i think we're finding each
other in new ways
it's just elevating us to a different
consciousness it's what i believe i'm
not saying i'm right mm-hmm
i'm rationalizing is is anybody else on
this side of the spectrum the technology
is making a smarter yeah in the corner
it gives us far greater access to
knowledge at our fingertips and you can
use that to build and take turns there
absolutely what know
but also say one with like anything i
like good wine but if i drink a bottle
of wine for breakfast right you'd have
an awesome day
yeah you do anything tomorrow morning
like anything and too much in moderation
okay
let's tease out this because this is
really interesting for me to hear
people's predictions we got one right
here and then we'll go again i have an
opposite perspective similar i agree but
i think there's another side with that
as well okay but before we go to the
other side we're going to explore both
sides we're right now on technology
is creating more cognitively capable
human beings yes i think that
on the other side to make the argument
there's some things that because it's so
rarely available and you don't figure
things out because it's already there
you don't like um wait wait are you
saying it is not making us smarter i'm
saying maybe not maybe it's making us
okay we're still on technology is making
us smarter guys we're going to talk
about attention spans and a little bit
when we go to the other side just
kidding just kidding just kidding
anybody else for technology is making us
smarter we'll explore that aside left
yes
and
technology became much more accessible
everything
you want to
go deeper with your knowledge it's
it's you just press one button and you
receive the whole information
a good example is for example you know
the game
speed trivia
okay
uh it's a it's an app that you can
actually uh
um
play and then test yourself in a
different
questions
and if you answer a wrong answer you can
actually google right away it goes to
wikipedia and you can learn more about
google right away is that an asset or a
crutch we're going to talk about that
all the information is just successful i
i think i think the key what you said
right there is access now when you when
you think of research right maybe some
people in the room remember this not
quite me when i was when i was doing my
my research but there used to be these
things actual called folders an actual
called cabinets is that true can people
in the room corroborate this
right and you would have to search
through academic journals actual
in-paper journals that costed hundreds
of dollars you couldn't just type it in
it was exciting but it did not provide
the level of access to information that
we have at our fingertips
instantaneously now anywhere in the
put so much world
into finding it you knew it not like
oh that is going to be interesting okay
i want to see if there's any few
arguments for technology is making us
smarter and then we're going to go
explore the other side yeah
on the contrary or in some ways i
believe because it diminishes our
ability to to concentrate for an
extended time
for example i i see that my my little
brother is so difficult for him to sit
with a book and just read because he's
used to this flicking you know all the
time a new message a new
channel knew something new all the time
okay
that way i don't think it's uh
i hear and i agree with you
one more time
if anybody has a reason to say
that technology is making us smarter not
the other side we're going to explore
the other side i feel people are very
eager to explore the other side
wait somebody who has not spoken yet
spoken have you spoken
please i mean you're saying smarter i
think there are other benefits to it
like being more connected
we're talking about cognitive faculties
here
yes
all right
yes thank you please
where they took computers to the middle
of rural villages
people who had never had seen at their
computer and they left the children off
the computer
right i saw this and within whatever
time period it was again and again the
kids figured it out and they made it
more and more complicated and then we
gave more and more difficult information
and these kids kept figuring it out and
i think that is perfect proof of how
we're giving tools that allow people to
cognitively figure things out beautiful
i'll give the other side beautiful i'm
one we're definitely taking
taking human capacity next and i want to
add i'm just just clicked right now in
in my mind how about optimizing
education
no longer do we have to settle for a
one-size-fits-all model of education
with things like the khan academy we can
really go into each individual person
and and educate them according to their
skill and where they're at that's a
scalable piece of individualized
technology that was never made possible
and that definitely can increase the
human capacity for for cognition so i i
really appreciate that comment yeah just
another response to that i think it's a
pretty invalid ridiculous argument
you're taking a computer to where they
have nothing and you're giving them
education yes no but that's not what i'm
like it's the cognitive skill that they
were able to sit on their own work with
the computer and figure out how to but
if you brought them legos and puzzles it
could have been the exact same
experience meaning but like those
puzzles are technical
what is technology okay that's a good
question this will only be this will all
this will only be settled by a rock
paper scissors contest they'll be
happening after the talk okay
any more for technology do you have one
now technology is making us smarter i
did i think that um through technology
because we have access to all this
information we're able to better cross
pollinate the different fields of study
you need to help us learn better when i
think about my niece or nephew who is
learning with for example dora the
explorer the way they're watching
television is a dramatically different
way than i did and that's because
they're taking from different fields
like neuroscience like linguistics and
that is a result of technology and the
information access that that
technology's brought us absolutely
very good one last on positive and then
everyone who's waiting to say there's no
way you guys are wrong yeah sure i think
that the potential for this particular
generation to help the future
generations is really when you talk
about optimal we had books we had
library systems we had file cabinets the
generation after us not so much in the
generation of children
that we will have will have even less
and so if we as the people who know how
to do these things and were brought up
with the computer age if we would teach
these children to access it so the
generation that we could provide from
torah learning or whatever would the
base be would be incredible and in terms
of your rock paper scissor argument as a
teacher
i once had a contest i had a diplomat
like an important a well-educated man
and a son and i said um in your father's
generation if you wanted to know an
answer you would have to go and look in
your generation you could do google i
have a question what's the first
ingredient in cheerios go i just wanted
the father to go to get the box and turn
it around and tell me the
the main the first ingredient and i
wanted the sun to to look at google and
see and neither of them had the skills
to do it rather quickly it was really
amusing to me i was like no but dad just
look at the box and turn it around you
can do it and son just like right and
and neither of them did it fast and so
we could have a million tools in front
of us if we don't know the best way to
use and access these things so we were
meaningless lego pieces trying to plug
them into a computer okay the floor is
now open for all those waiting to say
there is no way technology is making us
smarter we are raising a generation of
imbeciles there's no chance
okay
yes you had you had so
there were two sides i felt is both
making us smarter and making a summer
and one of the examples that came to
mind as you were speaking
was before the advent of the cell phone
you knew every phone number
of every person
in your life
who here knows the phone number of their
significant other if they have a
significant other who here doesn't
know but no it is i'll tell you why
because technology has offered us such a
crutch that we actually don't have to
fundamentally understand things or even
process them really because it's being
done for us so if you're looking at it
from a cognitive or like brain
processing perspective i feel like our
brain is actually being utilized less
than once before when we actually had to
do some of that processing ourselves now
on the reverse
we do have access to more information
and new um you know like
new ways of doing things et cetera and
so we're actually getting more
information and in another way becoming
more diverse and and having more more
knowledge but i feel like um
i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a reverse to
that side you've said that we're relying
on technology as a crutch and we're not
calculating these mental processes or
internalizing the way we used to there
were those who would argue that's great
now we can outsource all that brain
power freeing us up to do other things
that are important
by the way who here thinks that because
of technology they're better spellers
that's a very interesting question do
our emails go out with less do our
emails go out with less spelling
mistakes than our than letters used to
do yes yes
if we are stranded on a desert island
would we have the internal capacity to
spell those letters correctly
good computers so this is go this boils
down to what
this is technology this is window people
used to open the window and have the
fresh air now i'm looking at this
disgustingly dirty air conditioner and
everyone is using it because this is
what people think it gives us a fresh
error
we think instead of open the window and
get the natural air we'll put the air
conditioning okay like many things we we
substitute with technology
when we can do still the natural way
it doesn't it's it's fantastic that
google exists and
and when we need something quick we can
put it but i feel still that for the
purpose of studying exercising your your
mind
it's better to do it with books and with
the folders
okay i think the the
orthodox people who
study torah for their whole life
they could google right
not so much
and everything is engineering right but
the essence of it it's nothing they will
find the answer to the assistance of
looking for announcements right i think
you're hitting on some deep which for my
yeshiva experience i spent eight years
in yeshiva and i am convinced that this
is true that in torah
it's not about right answers it's about
right methodology and torah is training
you we see that from the talmud which
leaves many different answers open we
see there's a methodology a talmudic
methodology of argument of engaging of
ideas of diversity of of bringing
together proofs and logic and and it's
and it's that methodology some some guy
comes up with this is kosher some other
guy comes up this is not kosher they're
both right it's okay as long as they
follow the correct methodology which i
think is a very deep point in in
particular to our learning but not yeah
clarification i'm not sure what kind of
intelligence you're talking about
when you ask this question
i think it's made me more intelligent as
in i have a lot more access to
information right but i think that i
avoid having a hard conversation with my
friend by pretending my mother's calling
me and so it makes me less so so so
we're talking about cognitive
intelligence that that's what time we're
going to talk about we're talking about
relationships now i just want to follow
does anybody else have anything to say
on cognitive intelligence yes sir all
right i would say to sum up what we
spoke about no one said anything
specifically positive or negative but in
the end with cell phones we have a lot
more access to uh computers and
everything we have a lot more access but
the thing is that a lot of conversations
that i have i'm a very big googler it
just kind of kills the conversation
immediately i just tell them this is
what the answer is there's no discussion
right no they don't have a discussion
anymore this is the answer
so there's no
i think that kills
it depends how you describe the word
intelligence intelligent like uh
shira said there was an issue they
couldn't they couldn't think like maybe
i should google this
um while other people maybe google too
much we just don't discuss here this is
what's going on let's move on to the
next conversation people know a lot of
people know very little about a lot of
different things so just on that i i met
a woman in england with an amazing best
practice
she says when she's having a
conversation with somebody in a bar or
wherever the college college girl and
somewhere in england she said that she
has a policy for two hours not to google
it
because there's something called memory
and it's very and there's also some
called asking somebody and it's very
possible that these two modes of data
those two these two inputs could yield
results so she gives herself two hours
to either try to remember it or ask
somebody or it comes up and then she
googles it because it's a tool that we
should use one final thing i'll say
we're gonna move on to to our
relationships this is a very interesting
nuanced conversation but if we take
cognitive intelligence as a benchmark of
attention spans
in the year 2000 they measured the
average human attention span on a given
day a given moment and they found that
humans could focus on a particular idea
for 12 seconds 12 whole seconds
they 2 000 they did that again and they
did that again in 2012
and the number was 8 seconds
the same research report says that a
goldfish has an attention span of nine
seconds
okay
now this is a critical metric when we're
talking about methodology how we measure
cognitive intelligence the ability to
focus on an idea is really at the crux
of our capacity as humans to think
we think about deep critical thought it
requires focus it requires attention
i remember i saw eddie yeshiva some sort
of sign that imagine if einstein was
cultivating the general theory of
relativity for 20 years right if he was
getting buzzed every time somebody
tagged him on instagram or on facebook
or like like
there's no capacity to think when
there's so much static and noise pulling
us out of our thought process so the
fact that humans we look at how the
humans are the brain is wired in this
generation the capacity to focus has
gone down and that is an objective
metric of cognitive intelligence one but
again it's a nuanced conversation moving
on to relationships
show of hands just off the cuff yes
there's many ways you could ask this
question who here thinks that humans are
more capable of maintaining strong
positive relationships as a result of
technology show of hands technology
facilitating relationships 30 and a half
percent
and who says definitively no way
interesting when i i just did i just
spoke to a group of 100 uh four
different sessions of 100
seminary girls 18 year old girls they
definitively and everywhere i go i
travel ask this question teenagers are
unanimous almost unanimous that
technology is not
facilitating positive relationships
teenagers think that there's breakups on
facebook walls there's
cyber bowling there's ghosting people
who read the new york times art ghosting
ghost thing is oh a ghost thing it's
very juicy when you're dating somebody
and their social media friends and then
all sudden you just disappear oh like
every guy in israel
i see that ghosting is more prevalent
than initially thought um how about this
you're pouring out your heart to your
friend oh you know you're having a tough
situation then all of a sudden oh no
they're gonna do it up that phone comes
out pulling that person completely out
of the moment or maybe we're on the
other end maybe for the guys maybe more
relevant than the girls who have phones
in their pocket pockets but you're
trying to have a deep conversation with
somebody and you get that little nice
sweet hit of dopamine
right
that completely pulls you out of the
present moment how are you supposed to
empathize with the with the depth that's
being conveyed right now when nelson the
mind is racing who is it who's it going
to be wow i'm important look at me
it's very challenging and teenagers
particularly are aware of this challenge
i'll just give you one other piece of
research and then we'll hear from the
floor at the university's essex in 2012
they did a very fascinating research
experiment they took two groups of
people in the sample control group they
did they paired people off two people at
a time and they put him in a room to go
have a conversation two strangers having
a conversation there was just a chair a
chair a table and on the table was a
notebook
okay
the other group
the variable group
on that same chair table setup they put
an iphone face down
not on distracting people but face down
and they measured three things they
measured how well the people how close
the person felt with the person they
were communicating with
they measured the level of trust they
felt and they measured the conversation
quality in subjective terms how did you
feel the depth of that conversation was
and they conclusively found
that the control group had much stronger
levels of trust must have much higher
levels of conversation
and a much deeper connection to their
partner than the group that just merely
had an iphone this isn't somebody
looking on their iphone this is just the
subconscious presence of the technology
on the table
but there were different people
different chemistry how they can
actually measure they take they're
taking a large sample size of complete
strangers and they're objectively
measuring i felt this went a seven i
felt this one a nine we talked about
something that was as deep you know a
kid's soccer practice is maybe a four
it's a breakup that i just went through
was maybe an eight so subjective
measurements this was their methodology
you can check it out
essex you researched it at the
university of essex 2012. anyway i'm
just putting this out there on the table
this is the research who here let's hear
the for the technology so you know i
think there's a lot to be said for
connect connection and uh connectivity
and technology this kind of came up in
the discussion about cognitive
intelligence who here strongly feels
that technology is making us
more more capable of maintaining
relationships
somebody who hasn't spoken want to share
want to share
everybody's spoken somebody who hasn't
spoken let's see
we got something to share
here all right alan shoot
i think over the weekend
uh what happened were transpired
there's
evil everywhere but i think a lot of
goodness came out
and you know i really believe you can
you can get the answer
i don't think there's any universal
truth to any of this
you can it's part of our life it's how
you manage it
it's what you decide so
you want to be mindful about it you can
and you can also
shut your phone off
that's a very mindful practice yeah and
talk to a human
but also you can
what she's doing right now for whatever
reason
i work 80 hours a week
we're everywhere wherever okay i i want
to hear arguments i want to hear i want
to hear arguments and i can make very
powerful i think there's a universal
truth we're not asking for we're asking
for different different takes of the
right they have the blind men and the
elephant this is amazing and i feel
there's a very depth toward truth i just
have to tell this parable there is an
elephant there are five blind wise men
one goes up and feels the tail and
they're trying to have a deep
existential conversation of the nature
of the elephant one feels the tail and
says you know what this elephant the
nature of the element is bristly and it
flaps around everyone and then another
another guy is grabbing the tusk no no
no the elephant is smooth and shiny the
guy's grabbing the foot no it's coarse
and scaly
they're all right but what they've done
is brought nuanced truth of different
parts of this elephant and i feel very
strongly i'm very connected to this idea
that technology it's amorphous there's a
lot of nuance to it and this
conversation brings out the beautiful
the beautiful potential and optimism of
a digital age as well as some of the
dystopia and some of the the really
challenging scary negative effects of it
so i would just like to write here the
side of the elephant that people say
technology is boom awesome making
relationships fantastic who's got a case
study
an experience yes
okay so for example my best friend from
middle school good so um i really love
her and adore her still to this day but
you know she lives in germany right now
so i don't really have a connection with
her i'm not really thinking about her on
a day-to-day basis but then she'll pop
over my news feed and i'll like remember
how much i love jade and how cool she is
and all our adventures you know and
troubles that we get ourselves into
totally and so
so i'm thinking about her in a positive
sense and um you know reminiscing about
our relationship
and also you know seeing people online
on facebook you know even though i'm not
interacting with them i feel still i
still feel like that's
part of our relationship i absolutely
agree with you i'm a big fan of facebook
or an article called the this i why i
love facebook a spiritual perspective
for a cable's perspective but these
certain nuances right everybody knows
yes a facebook feed wall it's not
substituting an in-person relationship
but you know what it's buttressing that
i'm special i'm somebody who's lived in
four countries and i have many different
social networks of friends and i love
the fact that i can stay in touch
peripherally with their lives and they
can mine thank you for sharing that yeah
in the back
i don't think something's like white
so i i'm not like saying something like
this or like that
i'm definitely facebook dependent
uh i cannot say no but
and on one hand
i'm very happy i'm in fact with my
friends
from all over the world and with people
who i haven't seen for a long time and
it feels and it keeps
illusion gives illusion in many cases
that we're not so close
and on one hand it's very nice to be in
that with friends
and and i also experienced that friends
who are not on facebook it's much harder
to be in touch because
we have to write like a long email or
call write a short message each day okay
it's also an illusion for people who we
barely know
but we connected on things
cool and for example today
while working but i also spent a day
discussing about the
israeli-palestinian conflict
with someone who i know
he's not my very good friend but i know
him
he reacted to my post
i don't oblige to react to him
the discussion is basically pointless
okay
right
okay there's a lot of facebook politics
i just want to maybe hear just a few
more before i say that on one hand
i feel obliged because
i know the person but basically i think
like why do i see my time on someone who
i barely know
mm-hmm somebody who hasn't spoken yet
yes
so
i think
a little bit different i think that the
people that the technology today
make the people that's far from you
closer
but the people
wow
that was one of the most intelligent
things i heard in the past year thank
you that's a deep insight i'm going to
reflect on thank you very much yeah i i
have a l not phrasing those words but
you know i facetime my parents i've got
two little kids it's bath time in israel
in tucson arizona 10 hours away 10 000
miles and we can instantaneously
bridge that gap right that's a yikhud
that's a bringing together of time and
space
right it's collapsed and i try to think
what that would have been a hundred
years ago right to hire an artist and
ours paints a rendition of bath time
send it by donkey to the to the port you
know gets on a ship ends up in spain
another ship to america covered wagon to
arizona is it ever gonna get there
that's the distance that we've bridged
but as you said we can all picture
ourselves sitting at the dinner table or
at a lunch table or out at a restaurant
and four people sitting around there and
we can't even bridge two feet between us
right
very interesting okay let's hear
technology is not improving
relationships we're gonna move forward
out of this section of the talk
you're um
obsessing anxiety i don't know like the
anxiety nation has come across are you
first because you're always anxious to
the next why your friends aren't texting
you and why he's not talking to you
always thinking about the what
it's an expectation right people talk in
in work life right did it ever exist
that you had to sit at 11 p.m in bed
with your spouse did it ever exist and
then you're expected right the markets
are open in tokyo and if you don't get
on that contract that's what people are
dealing with no but you used to speak on
a telephone for two hours with a friend
but at that time you will speak only to
this friend and now you can chat to many
people in the same time which kind of
takes away the quality okay okay
but we're talking about the cons
constant availability here i think that
is one facet um very nice anybody else
have something to share
she-ra as people who are shown more
observant i think that we
can see the balance and i think in this
age chavez becomes even more important
because without chabas many of us
wouldn't put down that or or take the
time to have those conversations so i
think um in the same way that the world
was created with this sort of um
putting in and then taking away
the idea that we can
use
technology to teach the concept of
take you know using and taking away is
something that um is is again our
generation has the potential to do
unbelievable creation um and when you
talk about the the absence of distance
in time and space i mean that's that's
from the days of frankenstein man has
always just wanted to create and now
we're able to create as you know
relationships that exist only in time
and space and so it's just a question of
us
looking i guess you know at the torah to
see the model of what does that mean
to to not be um
not be restrained by time space the way
that hashem is not restrained so also at
this point we aren't and if we use them
correctly or if we use it to strengthen
our relationships to build those so we
can be unbelievable creators of
information and relationships
thank you and i appreciate it whenever
you give each other a round of applause
this is nice he did okay listen i have
to say i'm gonna reiterate again it's a
complex subject i'm not against
technology i'm not a luddite right this
is a reference in england during the
industrial revolution people went around
smashing machines that is not my
understanding of what the tour expects
of me um being a religious jew and not
my understanding just in general of a
practical
pragmatic life approach
uh
i've actually formed two tech companies
um one is the israel app it's a free app
up in the app store um built an app i
believe in apps it's a good thing
my second company wisdom tribe is also
um using technology using social media
to to spread ideas from ancient jewish
wisdom out to a global universal
audience so i'm a big believer in
technology but i'm also a big believer
in experience and i think this is a very
interesting way to approach this that
there's digital education we talked
about you know the way we can we can
access knowledge through through
scalable digital technologies and even
optimize to certain people and where
they are in their skills and that's
great and and there's so much
information coming in but i do believe
that we should balance that out with an
understanding of experiential education
right experiential education would be
like you know going and and being an
apprentice somewhere getting the feel
for it right being immersed in in an
experience not just looking at a screen
or trying to consume text
rapidly
right so um
you know i'll share with you back 10
years ago
i formed a music festival
okay it's still going it's ten years
running in santa barbara called chila
vista
okay an interactive celebration of
community it was awesome uh one stage
was around solar one stage was run on
biodiesel
100 students got credit for this music
festival it was done through the
university eventually the university
institutionalized it we had a community
currency called chillaskrilla we had an
organic farmers market it was awesome
so i really got my taste for
experiential education in forming that
music festival and i want to tell you
about my best friend
who i formed that festival with a guy
named levi felix okay
my buddy levi and i were called into the
chancellor's office after we threw this
festival and the chancellor said you
know what
santa barbara doesn't always get the
best press if anybody knows american
universities uc santa barbara is like
the top party school you can walk in
with your wetsuit and your surfboard
into class that's a common occurrence
we did this festival got great press and
he said listen you guys can have
full-time jobs to do this
now i wasn't able to take the job i was
going out to london to do a master's
there and my buddy levi had gotten a job
first working for the moishe house
people know moisha house also came out
of santa barbara at the time then you
ended up working for a tech company
called cause cast in santa monica
okay i visited my buddy levi 23 years
old he was the vice president of a tech
company managing a room of about 45
programmers and you know producers
editors it was it was a big operation
and what they were doing is networking
with uh celebrities in la and getting to
promote causes on a social network fine
one day levi was at the south by
southwest conference
in austin texas
and he was walking through the hallways
and
lo and behold he collapsed on the floor
as a 23 year old kid he was hospitalized
in austin
and he ruptured some sort of internal
organ and the doctor said dude you're
killing yourself
you're working too hard you've stressed
yourself out or your body's like
bursting at the seams says i recommend
you take a vacation
buddy levi's a smart guy he got his
employer to pay him two thousand dollars
a month to travel the world on
sabbatical blogging about his experience
okay
he was in israel for a little bit
but eventually he settled on a small
island off of cambodia okay with zero
technology he went from being vp of a
tech company in santa monica to no tech
right spear fishing in the coral reefs
all day hanging out doing yoga
meditating to shoot an email out he'd
have to take a boat to the mainland
walk to the chai shop and email and then
he'd go back to his no tech refuge
levi felix
levi shows up back in the bay in san
francisco in 2010
right after the iphone was born
and he looked around it was like a
twilight zone he saw a completely
different humanity
than before he'd left
right everybody is staring into their
screens people are walking and texting
and talking and flicking their fingers
all over the place he couldn't figure
out what was going on
but he's a smart guy
and he founded a company called the
digital detox
started out with about 15 people at a
time taken out for a retreat from friday
to sunday
people pay 750 bucks a pop
and they experience right he confiscates
all technology at the door
three rules at the digital detox camp
you can't use your uh real name you have
to have a camp name to prevent
networking and whoever's going to show
up there a lot of people from from from
the valley who are coming to this you
can't talk about work you can't talk
about your you can't use your real name
and no technology
he allows he allows like a film cameras
but no digital cameras
the digital detox started picking up
speed this thing started to start
getting hot i remember he did an event
in san francisco called device free
drinks
okay and in the picture of the new york
times article that covered it
you had this huge burlap wall with
little cubbies and people came it was
sold out 300 people and all the
smartphones are like lined up on the
wall
and no more retreating into your phone
in an awkward social circumstance guys
this is real face-to-face mano imano
communication
right
so levi's levi's brand started picking
up big he founded a camp called camp
grounded okay people heard of camp
grounded alana's he's he just did one in
austin texas in new york in san
francisco what does he do a summer camp
for adults
300 people the time they come from
friday to sunday no technology bring
your camp name
levi's camp name is fidget bigglesworth
mine is professor goji berry
it's a lot of fun
and and this thing started picking up
the new yorker did a six page spread on
him
levi's been in forbes in business week
all the major media outlets digital
detox is huge and campground is huge and
it's really ushering in a new mode of
business a new mode of life practice
the word mindfulness does not encompass
that we're going to talk about the
definition of mindfulness but i want to
before we go into this this part of the
talk say that something is changing
we're entering a new epoch we really are
um of social innovation of ethical
business practice
um
of entrepreneurship we see and and
people seeking meaning
people seeking a work-life balance and
people wanting to make their day jobs
meaningful
okay
the the most encompassing word perhaps i
found for this is the mindfulness
movement
show of hands who was familiar with that
word mindfulness and not just from this
facebook flyer on okay
so mindfulness mindfulness was at least
in its contemporary conception founded
by a guy named john cabot zinn um a
jewish
jewish guy raised in new york went to
mit and founded something called
mindfulness-based stress reduction which
is a clinical approach at kind of
stilling your mind into the present
moment
the the thesis is that so many times
we're being distracted we're being
pulled away and we just need to collect
all that energy and and be present
or as baba ramdas put it be here now
that's one school also the the second
school came up which was a much more
buddhist emphasis was founded by jack
jack hornfield sharon salzberg and
joseph goldstein
who are also three jews
living in boston so this is the origins
of the mindfulness movement
and really again the word itself is is
much too small to contain all the
changes that we're seeing right now in
um but a few facets of the mind from
this movement um
mindfulness is big uh the world's
biggest companies um not just in the
tech world like twitter's the googles
the facebooks but uh more traditional
companies bill ford the ceo of ford
motors has worked uh for the past two
years to bring mindfulness into ford and
scalable to their entire company as well
as um starbucks is doing that general
mills is practicing target aetna
insurance did a mindfulness program um
basically training their their employees
in in stealing the mind
developing a level of emotional
intelligence awareness of what's
happening in our in our emotions uh and
their internal survey found which they
published they found that they saved two
thousand dollars per employee that went
through the program because employees
were more focused right there's been
incredible academic research that shows
that this mindfulness practice increases
the increases the gray matter of our
brain you're able to stay on task it
increases executive function in the
neocortex so leaders can make more
effective decisions in points of stress
that's why the us military as well the
marines are experimenting with
mindfulness they found that mindfulness
enhances both soldiers performance in
the field under high stress situations
but maybe even more importantly is
mitigating the alarming alarming rates
of suicide
you know it's a huge thing where you
know veterans are killing themselves and
deep states of depression and
mindfulness has been clinically shown to
to mitigate that depression
um mindfulness is in sports right phil
jackson who was the coach of the bulls
and the lakers it was was an early
adopter of zen and mindfulness but more
recently the seattle seahawks super bowl
champs the mindfulness program
it's something that that's happening
very big and again the word itself and
its meaning of restoring your mind to
the present moment
is not fully enough to capture what this
is
uh there's a component of of of
mindfulness
also called emotional intelligence right
this came up when we were talking about
cognitive intelligence
just want to ask throughout the
throughout to the crowd i want you to
think of a leader somebody that you've
that's been in your life that's been
demonstrating solid leadership traits
somebody that you would follow someone
you look up to
can can people share like what come what
is that person what represents that
person a few traits
what is not not who
not who what
what what is a what are the traits of a
leader come on let's hear a few popcorn
quick
charismatic smart
inspiring
strong
humble reliable reliable able to execute
able to execute
listening if you look aside from the
word smart
if you look at all of those traits those
are not cognitive traits smart is
meaning people very really say this
guy's a leader because he can crunch
math problems really quickly
no she's a leader why because she's a
listener because she's humble because
she can follow through
because she's sensitive to what's around
she can catalyze a group of people these
are emotional traits and there's been
incredible literature recently about the
power of emotional intelligence
you know even in companies where like
google hires the smartest people but
smart people just like on a basketball
team talented basketball players are
nothing on their own it's the same with
emotional intelligence they're a bunch
of smart people in the room who aren't
sensitive to to
listening to compassion to where they're
overstepping their boundaries doesn't do
anything and and people don't leave jobs
people leave bad managers managers who
don't have the emotional intelligence to
to
to manage and
and guide an organization
so i just got back from a seminar google
gives called search inside yourself
right it's a play on google search right
so instead of searching the web you
search inside yourself and they do a
two-day emotional uh intelligence uh
training uh i was in manhattan last week
is uh 1250 dollars to attend it's an
expensive seminar attended by about 100
people um and excitingly uh wisdom tribe
will be producing and hosting google
search inside yourself seminar here in
tel aviv for the first time may 19th and
20th more on that to come
you guys are all invited for 3875
okay we'll talk about discount codes for
white's hashtag white city shabbat
right
so
emotional intelligence is part of this
mindfulness movement
maybe one other way to characterize this
i can give you guys from from my
experience i'm really into social
movements like i was born in 1985 and i
was raised in 90s and i always felt like
i should be raised in the 60s
i was i was a big hussein right a big
adherent of abby hoffman allen ginsberg
right bob dylan i felt there was a huge
wave of social consciousness you look at
the 1960s it was an era of incredible
social change incredible meaning
incredible optimism
people were purpose driven
but
it didn't really have a footing and as
we know the 1960s burned out if you want
if you want proof just go to haiti
ashbury today san francisco where you
say the genesis of the the hippie
movement it's a bit burned out
unfortunately
i want to contrast the epa the decade of
the 1960s with the 1980s
the 1980s again these are sweeping
generalizations but they do mean
something
the 80s was an era of reaganomics of
margaret thatcherism it was uh mergers
and acquisitions not a very socially
like passionately inspired time a time
of hardcore business values and
principles and generating lots of profit
the 80s right
what i believe you're seeing today is a
hybrid of those two
from kabbalistic perspective
you have a dichotomy in the world of
light and vessel what does that mean
this cup right here
is a vessel it's very good at
transporting whatever i want to
transport if i want to give you some
water and i just throw water at you
there's just a bunch of water everywhere
there's no relationship what a cup does
it enables a relationship to be formed
so
i believe and this way i conceive of it
the 1960s was an incredible degree of
light
light is water light is the inner
essence of what we're trying to get at
what are we purpose purpose driven what
are we motivated by are we inspired
that was the era of the 1960s
1980s all that water was gone
and we built very very strong vessels we
built big companies we built
conglomerates we've been multinationals
but it was an era not of the most
ethically conscious you know business we
could we could think about the rivers
you know lighting on fire in cleveland
and you know a lot of the practice of
the 1980s
for me the 1960s were a time of light
without vessel that's why the 1960s
didn't stick they didn't have a strong
foundation
they didn't have the kaling they didn't
have the structure
1980s was a lot of structure but not a
lot of inspiration
if you look at today the world's biggest
companies we've cracked a business right
we we have incredible tools we have
incredible management principles we the
the vessel of business and of startups
is and particularly here in tel aviv is
pulsing is lively
but so is the purpose purpose-driven
business social entrepreneurship social
innovation
it's business that the people are
serious they're not flaky they're not
drop they're
real serious people with with serious
skills but they're motivated by
something more than the bottom line the
financial bottom line right a lot of
progressive economists talk about the
triple bottom line also taking into
account not just financial but social
and ecological um
externalities
so one other way to conceive of this
again mindfulness being the the
inappropriate word to
to describe something much larger is
we're coming to an era that's a bit of
the the inspiration of the 1960s
inside the vessel of you know hardcore
business management structure 1980s okay
so what does any of this have to do with
judaism
i'm sure that was on all your guys's
mind no um
being somebody who's a religious jew i'm
constantly looking for for sparks that
are in the world for for areas of
connection and when i heard about the
mindfulness movement when i heard that
there's a gathering in silicon valley
which draws together the world's top
mindfulness teachers meditation teachers
neuroscientists studying emotional
intelligence and puts them together with
the ceo of linkedin with the ceo of
facebook with ceo of zappos
i'm very excited that's an exciting
gathering and the name of that gathering
is called wisdom 2.0
and i heard about from my buddy levi
levi actually was a speaker at wisdom
2.0 2 500 people at this conference
paying a thousand dollars a ticket in
san francisco
and i decided that's it i'm going to
wisdom 2.0 i have to do this was about
two years ago
so i went i went on shabbat it was a
shabbat conference so i came on shabbat
i dress in a full hasidic garb
black top hat my paius no longer tucked
but hanging down let it all hang loose
on shabbat get into that and i showed up
in a full hasidic garb in san francisco
friday afternoon in 2014.
i was very intimidated i'd spent eight
years in yeshiva
i wasn't in the tech world this was kind
of over my element and i took a seat in
the very very back
and the founder of the conference soren
gordhammer gets up and he says you know
this conference is growing each year
more and more people we've got some of
the biggest names in business and
technology and research and mindfulness
here
he says let's just see take a look at
some of the people in the room you know
he goes we've got yaakov lehman and
before i know it here's my face
plastered on the giant like double
jumbotron screens in the marriott hotel
and they've got a google map there
yaakov traveled 7 800 miles to come to
wisdom 2.0 because he says he wants to
spend time with good people that was the
quote i wrote when i filled out the
ticket form like
i don't know six months earlier it's
just good people he said i think we can
all appreciate that and the whole
audience busts into a round of applause
and i'm just like
like
not expecting it but at the same time i
wasn't expecting it but i was ready um
we did an event there called wisdom
shabbos
we had a yoga studio rented out called
zazen they do floatation tanks and uh
and yoga we had a sushi catered meals
kosher sustainable sushi from my buddy
who's got a an outlet called lahayan
sushi in the bay
and we had wisdom shabbos um some very
interesting people showed up the head
consultant who greened walmart walmart
went through a whole greening process
showed up there um one of the the third
largest digital design agencies in
australia bianca rothschild showed up
there
we did it again this year the head of
the ceo of mindful investor showed up
the head of burning man's the burning
man's global ambassador was also there a
friend of mine bear kitty it's a really
really really fun experience i did it in
singapore this past summer
and
the truth is i i just gotten a just come
back i said from america i started my
trip in hawaii
and i was uh invited to an invite-only
retreat of 45 leaders of this
mindfulness movement including the head
of
leadership at facebook bill mclaughton
melissa daimler the head of learning at
twitter the head of people development
in linkedin kelly palmer
major vcs from hong kong it was a very
interesting group of people it was a
retreat in hawaii
and
it was an unconference
the concept was just bring a bunch of
powerful people and let them figure out
what to do
you have to pay three thousand dollars
as well
so um i showed up there again in my garb
and i decided i wrote on a little sticky
note shabbat one word
right you can see i got a picture i'm
not gonna show it but next to you know
another person wrote seeding the next
myth and narrative to the populace like
this was this was a woman what was her
she was ceo of warcraft
for eight years
and she just founded a company called um
transformative technology looks at which
looks at technology design and how we
can design technologies to make us more
mindful to make us more compassionate as
opposed to just throwing you know
throwing out our attention span
she's actually coming out to a
conference we'll be throwing in february
which i'll get into a little bit but
shabbat so around my shabbat i had eight
people come to my breakout session it
was about five to eight people in each
group and i spoke about shabbat and its
connection to mindfulness
i prefaced my talk by saying that
judaism
is the most
incredibly
non-mindful religion out there
yes full of neuroses full
full of going out but you know what i i
said there's never been a monastic ideal
in judaism
if you look at a lot of the wisdom that
mindfulness is drawn from there's a
monastic ideal of disassociating
yourself from pleasure right anything
you're attached to you know according to
the the
the buddhist scriptures is something
that will bring you suffering including
your parents very often so people in a
in a monastery you have to disassociate
yourself
from
your passion from things you love
including food including sex
i said judaism is not that six days a
week
what does our wisdom tell us go build
the world go make money
go own the stock market go build a
startup go be a ballerina go improve
your jump shot do whatever you got to do
yeah listen a guy's got to improve his
jump shot you know what i'm saying
six days a week do not be in a state of
just pleasant bliss moment there has
never been a monastic ideal in judaism
six days a week hustle build make do get
the cash get the money get the jump shot
whatever you got to do
but one day a week one day a week the
idea is to not build to not create to
not be the boss of your world
but to incubate a state of gratitude of
deep appreciation for what we have
this is for those who understand that
the the feminist when we say lee cross
cala we say le hado de li cross cala
come welcome the shabbos bride why is it
called the bride because because this
shabbat which is what everything is
about sofma say makshavati the last
thing hashem created but is first in
thought
is all about completely being in the now
and when i explained to these executives
sitting around my shabbat breakout was
that on shabbat there is no there's no
networking there's no building there's
no doing business there's no technology
there's nothing to bring you outside of
the present moment all there is is just
a deep warming gratitude and
appreciation for what we have
this is the wisdom of shabbat and then
we go into the week and we do we build
we create we get that egotistical i will
say as well masculine type energy but we
come back every week it's the axis
of our consciousness back to shabbat so
i shared with them this was i was on
shabbat in hawaii and i shared with them
this is a jewish wisdom practice and i
got some really really incredible
feedback from from the crowd and it was
really a big pleasure to share with them
so i want to give you with that idea um
there's another concept i have and then
maybe we'll take a few questions and
stop but uh you know there's a line
there's a line that uh you know i
formulated that where mindfulness stops
is where we're avoda
where the jewish wisdom understanding of
how we're meant to act in the world
begins
mindfulness and stilling your mind we
don't have time tonight to do practice
you know i'm a tai chi qigong teacher so
in a different format if you're outside
maybe we'll go up to the roof for an
after session we'll do a little bit of
mindfulness to bring our present in the
moment yeah the after party but listen
listen it's it's amazing
and if you've read any of the red
eckhart totally or john kabadzin restore
the mind to the president restore the
mind to the present
but now what what do we do now
for me
mindfulness is clearing the cache
of our cognitive computer you ever ever
like have a bunch of windows open on
your computer you're running a bunch of
programs and it's just slow it's
occupying a lot of ram a lot it's just
it's just bulky mindfulness says you
know what
move all that static away
clear out some space for your mind to
operate
but the question begs and then what what
do you do once you're there once you're
present
and i believe this this is the operating
system upon which jewish conscience says
because jewish consciousness is a a
model of elevating the physical world
from going and taking the caloric energy
latent in a delicious baraka
oh yeah
making a blessing eating the baraka and
then turning that into a mitzvah
schlepping somebody's refrigerator up a
stair up some stairs you've now turned
margarine dough and some sort of weird
potato mush
into a mitzvah of helping schlep a
refrigerator which is an awesome mitzvah
by the way
always look for opportunities to help
people not in their spiritual emotional
things but physical stuff schlepping
schlepping driving to the airport these
are the best mitsubis guys
so the operating system that we should
do that upon that we should go into the
brock and we shouldn't do it because
we're hungry and because we're driving
after we're being driven from our lusts
and we shouldn't be driven after our
fears that's what mindfulness does it
makes us rise above the emotions that
are constantly driving us
i'm afraid i'm i'm i'm angry i'm i'm
anxious
or i'm hungry or um i want that or
mindfulness brings us up to a higher
level of consciousness which is the
clear operating system upon that when
then which can go back into the physical
world back into meat and wine and sex
and all the good things and doing it to
bring it up to a higher purpose
so
i often tell people there that our yoga
mat and judaism is our shabbat table
that is our contemplative practice and
it's done over good food good wine and
good friends and so this is the
beginning of a conversation very
exciting um wisdom tribe will be uh
partnering with wisdom 2.0 this main
conference uh which happens in san
francisco they've done an event in
dublin ireland uh which i was at as well
as in singapore and now their next
international event is going to be tel
aviv guys february 4th
um the title is uh wisdom tribe building
a more mindful creative and
compassionate workplace
we've got bill laughton the head of
leadership development at facebook
coming out we've got bill dwayne the
head of um the superintendent of
well-being and high performance at
google coming out we've got nicole
bradford the head of former head of
warcraft coming we've got researchers
from harvard we've got researchers from
stanford university
we've got some of the best people in
israeli business in the israeli research
community uh there'll be four tracks one
track is going to be wellness which is
you know a large category the other
track science
on our steering committee is the head
researcher at the idc center for brain
and mind dr nava bennun uh we'll have a
business track the head of the tel aviv
university executive business education
program aura setter will be leading the
business track
and then we will have a track on
technology
and nicole bradford will be speaking
about that as well as bill duane from
google who was a manager of gmail for
eight years global production manager of
the entire gmail project the lead
engineer before he left switch into hr
and become the superintendent of
well-being well-being and high
performance
so it's gonna be a very exciting
conference it'll be about 300 people um
hopefully we'll we do have a flyer here
urine do have a flyer we can send out
some more information through white city
shabbat when it comes around also the
google uh search inside yourself seminar
we'll be producing in uh in may so stay
tuned the mindfulness movement hashtag
mindful middle east right we could all
use a little bit of mindfulness and
compassion in these eras so we'll start
here healing the rifts in israeli
community in israeli society and
hopefully uh expanding out to to a wider
audience
my last blessing and idea for you guys
is that we should conceive of technology
the way we conceive of this water and
and the cup
which is also you know somebody driving
a car and the car itself that we should
always be in control of the technology
we should always know what our inner
purpose when we pick up our phone and
swipe it to unlock it what are we there
to do we've allocated ourselves five
minutes to check email great five
minutes of scroll facebook 20 minutes
for facebook great
that's awesome we should use technology
to fill our inner intention and goal
the problem is is when the cup or the
car starts to take over and then the
driver starts with those off and the car
will it will this is the nature of kalim
of vessels that without proper direction
they will start steering into their own
directions and that's where we get the
who here you know you check your email
put your phone your pocket two minutes
later you you're scrolling again to
check your email
what is that was that a conscious
decision or is that a habit born about
by an addictive technology so i bless
everyone that they should be in control
of the technology of their lives and not
the technology and control of their
lives thank you very much