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okay good morning
friend I could not resist this subject
as this is a
classic topic and that is the authorship
of tan who wrote tan So based on the
gar
in gar says on the fourth line that ran
was frequented by eliahu and he would
teach
him now if raanan was frequented by
presumably
that's the
Mal and he would teach
him and because raan did did this what
did he do he told rman that he's
disqualified from adjudicating the case
and R thought it was because he was
related but it's really because he
accepted by the way just
if I could share with you on chabas WE
suggested that you know there's an idea
that the 13
PR correspond
to and the 13th par corresponds
to now the says
in
that accepts those who do chuva and he
doesn't forgive those who don't do chuva
the gamar there refers to chuva as
bribery we suggest that that's why the
sugya of bribery in sh is in the 13th
peric of because it corresponds to V
which is accepting chuva chuva is a form
of bribery anyway so Elio would frequent
raanan and he stopped doing it and what
did ranan do he sat beus and he asked he
requested mercy and oo came when he came
he frightened him so what did ra
he made a
box and he sat before
him until he taught him his
order okay this is
um this is the uh this is the gamar and
the question is who wrote Tano we have
another reference to Tano
the there it
says the that God is destined to bring
back to life will not go return to their
dust okay
so let's begin with the the B is one of
the
early let's see the B was written by
you know what I'm going to try something
different take a look at
this you see this on your screen this is
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huh um RAB sakar
be isenberg I don't know did you get did
you get the
maros let me see
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okay we'll start we'll start with this
and then hopefully we'll come
up
um okay who wrote Tano so the says like
this
tan do not mistakenly
think that
thisan says
that
it's
rather it's not it's
the it's the T that is marked and listed
in
the was an early T and another early T
was there's a
t he's in the R's to the
m so the says that is
not but rather it is a Tana called named
aah fine that's the opinion of the
this is
a besides an interesting topic somewhat
of a Shas topic because it occurs
somewhat
uh uh it's not
infrequent
that that we have t and the uh B says
it's it's uh the
t Okay so let's get this up you see this
comes in the
okay
letter it's published in
Venice one of the classic commentaries
on is something
called actually I looked up this morning
what exactly is
Z I think even we've quoted it one
time I think one time we quoted it and
the says that commentary was published
in
Prague and there are two parts to
it just want to tell you what he says he
says it was published in Prague in the
year
1676 it was written by
Rua
it's it's a
p that was originally printed in Venice
it was full of mistakes and this
RAV in his kadus and his diligence
Hashem illuminated his eyes and it was
revealed to him the
true and he fixed up the old
no and he made a very long commentary on
in three
parts and he made introductions one's
called Mar Kisha one's called Mar yanuka
the first is a of the second is
a and the third p is a beer of the 20th
perak of Elo Zuta and that perak is very
very deep with all kinds of Rin and
talum and therefore he made it a a by
itself the says I only saw the first
toak print not the third and the
that gave to the
commentaries the father of
and the author of
okay takes the to task so he says like
this I saw in
the to
there the
says and the says don't make a mistake
that
that but it's the mentioned in
the and the repeats this in his
ch um close to the end of the sa and
the quotes
this it's been more than 35 years
that I was perplexed with the what the
said when the r says in
his the read the words
wrong the r
says it's
not
and it's one guy his name is
so there is
no the read it wrong the thought it was
and then no
it's also it's very clear
that what's the
r the is
doesn't
the it was published originally in the
year ym the year ym is
358 which is
1598 the first publishing of T was in
the year
1598 and this is
the you know what how T begins anybody
know what are the first words of t
and he chased it's referring to being
chased out of G Thea of
is like
thees also it was hidden from
the what
the writes the
was I was just at his house in the old
city in
Rome um the
theer it's a basically a dictionary and
he
says in his entry
for that's our
that all the T that are brought in or
the or at least most of them are
in especially those two garas that the
is talking about
meaning
the about what will happen to
the is
in with a little bit of a
discrepancy which Thea is talking about
in his Chas is
inut and that the
says it's all in t which is written
written
by why was the
Bea why did it suffice for him oh yeah
it's it's the Alo in the the
ra why didn't he say where this T is in
the
M why why did the D sha just suffice to
say yeah you know who it is it's a t the
ra talks about why didn't he try to find
where exactly this T is mentioned
in now the truth
is followed the opinion
of the
Vera um and he brings what it
says if says says the if the if the
Tana was the Tana of in the
r that it was an early Tana so how could
he quote ran and R who are later tan
meaning the Baba bring I'm sorry the the
sors brings the
B and he says if the Ram's correct how
could he quote
later
so the asks
first of
all why didn't he utilize the argument
that it's a s elu that
was taught to raanan and that had to
have been and
not and also what does the
mean does ra the one who
mentioned like why is he saying and if
the ramam is right the ramam didn't
chime in on this the ram just mentioned
the Tana named a he didn't say anything
about speak about this
it's the who thought that the and the r
is the author
of it's obvious one
word is mentioned on third
likewise the S also thought that when it
says R it's two words but says it's one
word
AO
also it can't be that the r it can't be
two words because the r only mentions in
his that are mentioned in the mishna in
the mishna we don't have not and
not but we do have in par let's see
in do you remember
perim do you remember such a
uh
Tana let's see
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by the way there it
says who made the different Paras
by the
way if you
look actually looking have K
Inus we
have not I wonder if there's any
connection okay in any event therefore
the says
the bottom line is it's there's a famous
who wrote
the says it was mentioned by the r in
the and the says the r doesn't mention
any the r only mentions tan who are
mentioned in the mishna there is no
mentioned in the Mish all you have
is which is mentioned in and therefore
the says based on that t was was taught
byi as indicated by Aram
that taught it to
ra have a great
day for
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I know her I used to work with her at
woodmar rehab center um my question is
the uh the kis because I know she's more
modern than I am what is your feeling on
that for
oh man
