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When will AI take my job?
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Tech guru Yisroel Goldstien discusses the impact of AI to the job market. With Moshe Frank and Clappy.
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Hey guys, you question. Is AI going to
take away your job, my job, his job?
>> Honestly, I feel like it might. And
personally, I welcome our robot
overlords.
>> I think if it happens, let it be.
There's going to be something next to
do.
Uh if it's not this, then I'll move on
to whatever it is next.
>> You're a coder. I spent a lot of time,
energy, money with you.
Do does that mean we're going to have to
people are going to stop paying you and
do you use currently use AI and do you
see it getting better better enough that
you don't have to be there but on the
other hand I hear these big news story
how these AI programmers are getting
paid 10 20 30 gazillion dollars a year
so on one hand you're hearing entry
level programmers have no jobs on the
other hand the professionals getting a
lot
I fear it might I fear it might get very
very good to a point where you might not
even need the programmer anymore.
And uh but it is what it is. If it
happens, that's what happens. I do use
it a lot. It does help a lot. Right now,
it's in a position where the programmers
are using it and getting most benefit
out of it and making a lot of money with
it. And so,
>> but doesn't it don't you build by hour
and and you and you're doing things
quicker now because of it
>> and therefore you make less money.
>> It depends on skill and how time is
used. I find myself spending a bunch of
time, you know, negotiating with the AI.
Hey, is this are you sure this is
correct? And why is this specifically
done this way? And was this actually
intentional? And sometimes it corrects
itself. Sometimes I have to correct it.
So there is time saved with a lot of
boilerplate like just automatic
groundwork all laid out automatically
quickly. But then I have to go through
it because I like I like to be mahadder
with my code. I like it to be tiptop
best it could possibly be. Shine it. Uh,
you know, scrub it.
>> How would you tr How would you explain
AI to a regular dumb person like myself?
What is it? Why is it such a big news?
Please explain it to the common folk.
>> Honestly, I just recently took a day or
I took a few hours to explain it to
myself cuz I I looked myself in the
mirror and I was like, this is not real.
This is an actual glitch in the system.
Someone is pulling the rug under my feet
claiming that there's this scientific
computational explanation that this
somehow makes sense to work. I don't
believe it. It doesn't work. It's magic.
The Aishair introduced an actual magic
thing into the world, convincing
everyone it's real and it's scientific
and so I took a few hours. I looked into
it and I started trying to understand it
myself and it's it's unbelievable. I
>> could you how do you translate? Just
break it down for us.
>> Basically, and every time I think about
it, I'm like, "No, no way. That can't
be. That's impossible. That's crazy."
>> Okay, get to it. Get to the point.
>> It has all of human written knowledge of
forever. And when you have all of that
in one mind that you can access all of
it at any time, all of that content kind
of speaks for itself in a way. It
produces a result out of itself
naturally. It makes sense. a human
brain?
>> No, it's not really a human brain. It's
just if you have a encyclopedia of
everything and you have also a system
that is very good at looking up that
wiki that that encyclopedia very quickly
for exactly what you need and what makes
sense to say right after that and what
makes sense to say right after that out
of all of human knowledge of forever
which is mind exploding that's pabytes
of information and you you can't you
cannot you try to grasp it in your mind
you can't it's It's still a miracle.
Even after understanding it, it's still
incred an an incredible miracle. But if
you have all of that at your at your
fingertips and you can access it and
look it up at any time. Yeah, it gets
you your answer. It makes sense.
Actually, it should be able to give you
any answer of anything.
>> But why why are we scared of people
losing their jobs? My father tells me
that in the 1950s they had the world
sphere in Brooklyn and he went
>> Queens
>> Queens and they had every company around
the world uh they're um showing their
newest products and my father said that
one of the things he remembers as like a
seven 8-year-old kid was they were
saying that in the kitchen everything is
being automated toaster ovens microwaves
refri everything everything is being
bread makers pure vegetable everything
is being done you know mixers blenders
and that women spending hours a day in
the kitchen now they're going to be able
to spend the whole evening with their
family and spend quality time with their
family. It never happened. Nobody has
time. So basically, when people used to
go on horse and buggy, hundreds of
millions of people had jobs being wagon
drivers. THEY'RE ALL LOSING THEIR JOB
because Ford's producing cars in
Detroit. They're all going to lose their
job. It's all BS. Everybody has jobs. I
don't know what goes on in the world of
computers. I'm still using a pen and
paper for a lot of deals I write up. My
point is is that you are working in the
world of technology. Won't every single
person that's working in technology just
figure out another job to be able to
support their family?
>> Has it ever actually happened that in
those all those times that people
predicted this is not going to go, we're
going to lose jobs. Have have there been
swaths and swaths of people which who
didn't have a job after or okay maybe
their oldfashioned job t went out of
business but they didn't find some. Was
it ever actually a problem ever in all
>> the guys that the guy that rode horse
and buggies or got a driver's license
and now they drive Ubers? Well, now the
Ubers are being automated. Hey,
>> Whamo's coming to town. Whamo.
>> Driverless taxis.
>> Yeah, but the driverless taxi. I report
news every night. The drive for a Jewish
for a Jewish company. The driverless
taxis in San Francisco over the weekend.
You know what happened?
>> What?
>> There was a blackout for a couple hours
in San Francisco and the cars all just
stopped working. Hundreds of cars around
San Francisco
>> in the middle of the street
>> because there was no red light, green
light, yellow light. So, the cars just
all went off.
>> And they have to send hundreds of tow
trucks to get rid of it because San
Francisco is completely shut down.
>> They couldn't send way more tow trucks.
that real truth.
>> Whatever Whatever it was, it was a huge
scandal. We're not from San Francisco.
We don't know this, but a complete
gridlock.
>> So, that wasn't perfected. You know,
Elon Musk, I think they still haven't
perfected the driver was cars. But now,
a lot of taxi drivers, the same thing is
going to happen.
>> Is falling behind. Whamo is Google. It's
not even Elon Musk.
>> It's a whole competitor.
>> Yeah. Anyway,
>> makes sense. It's good. Competition is
good.
>> Yeah.
>> So, but right now, you walk down the
street, nothing changed with AI. The
sidewalk looks the same. The traffic
like in the news everyone's it's hype at
this there's bits there's
>> what's it called the Nvidia with the
chips?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Chips and all that. I'm not
even sure what all that is all about.
>> Chips means that they're high. Does it
mean that just that enables AI because
it's stronger powerful?
>> I'm assuming
>> here's one concrete example that
actually affects me. I have actual gosh
myistica clients who until today relied
on me 100% for everything and now they
are going to AI and asking it a question
and AI is giving them a snippet of code
and they're copying out that code and
putting it into Microsoft Excel or
putting it into Google Sheets and
clicking play and it shows an error and
they go back to AI and ask it to fix the
error and it fixes the error and they
put it back in and something works and
they're like, "Oh, I did that on my own
without having to Ask the programmer. So
>> the programmer
>> it's it's exactly it's not the full
story yet but it's starting some clients
have
>> started starting to get nervous.
>> Look in a good way. I'm nervous about it
but like I said I welcome it. It is what
it is and let let it happen. Adab let
people let lay people be able to just
ask AI get an answer get a program put
together get a web page put together get
a website put together without needing a
programmer. That's great. Why should
anyone be against that or say no slow
down uh amazing technology in the world
because uh people will lose jobs. I
don't know even though I do feel like my
job is at risk but hey something else is
going to come out uh you know I'll do
the next job of whatever it is that
people do when there is AI doing
everything. I don't know
>> now with all new technologies like the
web boom and then ends up being the web
crash you know how much cuz like I said
I'm not seeing re you're as a programmer
you're seeing real people are relying
you less dependless as a regular
art peddler podcaster
content creator I mean I'm seeing a I'm
sorry I'm not as if I look down the
street I don't see any difference this
AI revolution I see a difference
>> we saw ads and commercials everywhere I
see a difference what you see
>> so I I don't even know I don't know
anything about chat GPT but I report
news one of my jobs is I report news for
a company every single night I report
record news and then it gets broadcasted
the next day for our paid subscribers
and a lot of the times they don't have a
the news desk doesn't get a chance to
write up the news so they just give me
bulletins so the nights that they give
me bulletins I used to like work really
hard I used to put it into Google and
then I would get MSNBC New York Times I
actually pay for it and and check this
website, that website. I would compare
notes, scribble it on a notepad. Now on
my on my Chrome, whatever on my uh my
iPhone 12, whatever, I put on AI for the
answer and it goes like thinking and
within seconds I get long pages of clear
bulletins. Those bulletins are
beautifully beautifully written
>> and they're up up to date
and while it's browsing it pulls up all
the articles it's getting from and you
see New York Times, New York Post,
Tribune, Herald Tribune, Chicago
Tribune, whatever. You see it all
>> and you check and it's accurate. It's
like it pulls
>> accurate more than anybody you would pay
$30 an hour to check the facts. This is
a lot. How about this? I've never been
fact check ever using this.
>> Okay,
>> your listeners are eight-year-olds. You
calm down.
>> We don't have access to the internet.
Therefore, the
>> A lot of them a lot of them are 12. A
lot of them are 12 and they're very
smart. You know what a kid is? You know
what?
>> Hold on. They hold on. Let's just let's
give some some uh framework. What's the
word? Let's give us some
>> platform.
>> No context.
>> Context.
>> He he he works for a news station that's
only calling because they don't want to
give their kids access to the internet.
>> Oh. So the only access information they
have, they can't fact check him because
the only way they're allowed to access
the world is through calling the number
and hearing Clappy say the news.
>> Not fact checked. It's, you know, they
really he's the source. He's the fact
for them. I'm not really called in with
a question last week. He said if they
stop minting the penny because it cost 4
cents, why don't they stop minting the
nickel which cost like 17 cents? That
was a good question.
>> That is a good question. You know, I
answered because it's very difficult to
get rid of all the currencies. You could
charge a penny less, a penny more once
you start rounding it off to the 10
cent.
>> But it is a valid question. Would you
say that Fiverr and Upwork, which are
websites
that you could do low labor work,
technology or or editing, a lot of those
jobs are probably getting quickly more
eliminated by AI and Canva
versus um highlevel coding or highle
design. That's not
>> some things I would say like if I needed
some concept art of like uh what should
it look like if I'm designing some uh
web page or some I don't know video game
atmosphere or scene or something. These
days I wouldn't go to Fiverr anymore.
You know AI can generate that you know
10 different 15 different concepts for
me very quickly. But some other things
Fiverr and Upwork are the way to go. I
mean uh if I need someone to put
together you know a full web framework
you know set up from scratch with all
the different features set up and the
guy you know wherever he is from India
from Pakistan he already did it many
times and he's experienced then it's
worth the 25 per hour to let him do that
AI is not going to help me do that I
have to do it piece by piece there's a
lot of time of negotiating but maybe
this but fix that but why this it's too
much it's not worth it yet to do that
through AI but it's only going to get
better so sooner logo was assisted by
AI. My sister put in I don't know
prompts Clappy and Frank. So if you look
at her logo, it's a
>> My wife does real estate.
>> My wife My wife does real estate
management. She gives a property with a
listing and all the information that
she's managing now like for rentals,
whatever. And within a second, you get a
full flyer that would have costed a 100
bucks a few months ago, every detail,
and then they just fix it up and it's
perfect. However, this is where I find
this very interesting. The entrylevel
jobs in technology, tell me if I'm
wrong, the entry level jobs, they're
always going to be there. And the top
people that charge $3,000 a minute to do
video production, they're not going
anywhere cuz the billion dollar
customers only want the best. It's the
mediocre guy the $50 an hour guys or the
guys that would never have an ad in the
first place. That's always the habits
when technology gets more accessible.
people who put up you know I lost my dog
and with handwriting instead they just
do a AI thing or a canva so I don't have
a fancy flyer
>> I don't know why I came across in this
topic I heard from different places
around that they're saying no da the
entrylevel stuff is what's going away
because people either have to be good or
AI could do pretty close to what you can
do so what you have to get to begin with
good otherwise why should you know the
entry- level jobs are suffering that's
what I heard from other sourc I don't
Oh, maybe. I don't know.
>> I think entry level jobs to get $25 an
hour jobs an hour is just a beer entry
if you're alive and you have a pulse,
right?
>> Because a lot of states minimum wage is
178 bucks.
>> No, New York just became 17. I just
found out Jan News.
>> So, if you're alive and breathing,
>> I got to pay my workers. No,
>> if you're alive and breathing today,
you're making 20 $25 an hour.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You better. You have to.
>> No. There was a lot of companies in New
York had a massive scandal. They used to
pay not underpaying. There was a lot of
companies that were paying workers 15,
17, 18, 19, 20. The workers were getting
raises every year until they were at 25
and they're hiring kids off the block
now for 24. They're like, "One second, I
put 10 years into the company and the
guys making so they have to restructure.
A lot of Fortune 500 companies now are
restructuring payment because the old
guys are angry. The new guys are happy."
>> You saw I was saying you see you're
using AI for your prompts for your news.
I'm seeing AI from data from like Tik
Tok, my Instagram accounts. they're
suggesting certain things doing well or
they prompt you like simple AI AI is
when you type into email or Gmail to
response they're suggesting quick
responses which is great but practically
when you walk down the street over here
Third Avenue nothing's different the
cars look the same the buildings look
the same the traffic light when are we
going to see real you know I guess you
see but driverless cars is that a like
where's a jump from computer programming
to AI
>> already
>> or is it the same thing? I mean
>> already the jump has been in 2023 when
was chat
>> it seems like all the all the different
this revolution is all in digital format
not you all seeing real results on what
do you
>> do you see a before and after whenever
it was in 2023 when chat GBD came out do
you remember like before AI and after do
you see a huge difference of like
remember before AI and now we're after
AI do do you like generally do you or is
it doesn't seem evenly really like that
much of a for me it's very very very
it's very stark there's like the world
before AI and the world after
you know hey
>> you keep holding you have to drink it
already we're going to get out
we want to hear the secrets
>> no one in this podcast needs to
>> we're all after
we win
>> by the way it's not tonight it's Tonight
you're not allowed to learn. Our minute
is not to learn. But it's hey tavis. You
have to buy spartum tonight. You have to
buy spadim but don't open them.
>> That seems to me the case with most
people regardless.
>> You can't fact check this.
>> So here's the dramam says and you used
to be very into you're still very into
mashia. You're a big mashist.
>> This whole thing you were just asking
was going to answer you about mashia.
>> So says now you have to wait for him to
bring it up. You bring up yourself.
my says in the end of
that in the end of the times the
messianical era
you know you won't have to do any real
work it's just going to be you're going
to have extra time on your hands so I
see all the popular guys now the j the
ywise and the chases and the simmons
they're all mixing this in now to say
that like it's happening now where
everybody has all the knowledge and you
could just but with all that people are
using all the technology of just
watching movies and ding in WhatsApp
groups. Everybody's arguing about
hackanic stuff. No. And people are still
having to go to work to make a living.
So everything is not all the knowledge
is available at your fingertips. But the
part that says that you won't have to
work. I mean maybe that's you know maybe
mom's New York. We'll all get social
security. I don't know whatever. So I'm
saying how do you mix that we have all
the knowledge but you can have free time
to serve Hashem. I don't see that part
happening. I mean, someone needs to
someone's got to make a highlight reel
of these amazing mashia clips out of
Elon Musk and and all the big names out
there. Just these phrases they say out
of okay like like they're saying so what
will people's occupation be and like
yeah
or or there will be so much abundance
compared to 100 years ago. There's just
so yeah
or I don't know I can't I should have
written like a note of them cuz they're
just reading off a list one after
another after another gishmaka clips out
of the news out of people in politics
out of big celebrities that say these
gishmaka phrases to the effect of like
yeah it's happening it's happening now
it's coming up futurism what will people
spend their time doing
and um so yeah so we have to answer also
your question there are moments where
there's like a huge switch and a before
and after. And in my world anyway, it's
not so much like you described like cars
down the block. I work a lot more on the
internet and there it's so stark the
difference
>> examples
>> before and after. It's just like in a
way people look at a lot of the internet
right now in a negative light in the
sense of it being like poisoned like
infected. There is the pure real
internet that used to exist before chat
GBT was around. And where did ChatgBT
and then all the other AIs that came
out? Where do they get all their
information from? From a pure internet
that existed before AI existed. They got
all their information from websites that
was just human input. It was just
forums, people chatting, news articles,
you know, videos, everything. Regular
stuff that humans produced,
YouTube, everything. But now now AIs are
going around and still gathering a lot
of information including what's been
infected and what came out of AI itself.
So much content that has been produced
from AI is being fed back into AI and
producing whatever content we're going
to come up with you know further. And so
there's a bit of an infection. I think
there's a meme that came out about that
about so many pictures that people are
generating have that yellow tint that
kind of stylized art style yellow tint.
I don't know
>> all the AI
>> because all the AI learned from the
people that liked it that oh that's a
form you know that's a filter that
people like. So and just all the
pictures have that yellow tint now or
whatever that's AI infected.
>> Yeah, there's a lot of pe ways how
people recognize oh that's AI. Yeah,
that's AI. That's AI. Um so there is a
bit of in my world for sure there's a
world of before
>> coding
>> pure pristine no AI and then after so
much different lumalus also not just in
a negative way but that was one example
how people very strongly see like before
and after. So yeah there is transitional
moments and like wow before and wow
after but there's also like a
progression. It's the exact same phrase
of the question that people ask. What's
the story about the whole Mashiach
thing? I thought Mashiach is coming and
he's coming now and he's coming take it
from Yad. But meanwhile, it looks like
life is going on and another day goes on
and another day goes on and I'm here to
ask that question as well. And that's
that that's part of what we're going to
get into. Um and yeah, and and people so
far like, "Oh yeah, Mashiach is here.
you see tremendous transformations
happening in the world and wars and good
things and bad things and
transformations and things you know
advancements in technology
and uh and at the same time you could
also say like you asked like yeah but I
I'm not really seeing it like the whole
transformation suddenly magic you know
rainbows and unicorns unicorns flying in
the sky I don't see all that whole magic
uh Moshiach transformation that I
thought it was going to be so that's a
good question. Um,
yeah. So, and maybe that's what you're
experiencing with AI as well. There's
like there is a before and after, but
also I'm not seeing it yet.
>> It's a fair point. It's a fair object.
>> So, why do you have that thing in your
earpiece then?
>> Someone prompting you know
>> what to say.
>> It just looks cool. No, you're right.
Now, I'm not Now it's really going to be
off the cuff cuz he's not telling me
anymore what to say.
>> I'm just I'm sorry.
>> I think we have to get address the
elephant in the room. You're wearing a
kapata and a hat and you're you you're
you know very mishist and you're living
in Msiah and you grew up in how did you
even get involved in all this high tech
being a high-end you know computer guy
technology guy building framing
networking how did you even fall into
this situation
>> I guess
>> why you not a rebby and yeshiva I'm
saying I'm saying when somebody sees you
they want to know like how did you
become such an expert in technology
>> it's really honestly I should have been
a rebi yesa And you grew up you grew up
as Bas in Spain.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, you
know, when the days
>> when we go on some the Williamsburg
Shaw, they ask him if they could hire
him to run the kids program. That's how
impressive.
>> They did ask me that. Yeah. Yeah. I need
to follow up with them.
>> Yeah. It's been willing to have
Labavatur
teach. Yeah.
>> Because we grew up not learning English.
Do we teach?
>> Um, no. But I mean, honestly, my, you
know, programmers love their like
initial discovery stories. How did you
discover programming?
>> Oh, so this is my question.
>> Back at home, uh, we had this old Apple
2GS computer which we got from one of
our shabas guests back in 1980
something.
>> Spain,
>> in Spain, and he gave us this, you know,
old Macintosh back then. wasn't so old.
And with a lot of these floppy discs,
actual floppy discs that are actually
bendable.
>> Um, I don't know if most of you guys
have even seen those. This might be a
good uh age verification technique on a
website. Are you over 18? Yes. What is
this? That that that should verify you
for over 20some, maybe 30ome.
>> Um, but a drive, right? Was it called
the A?
>> Yeah, the A drive. That's Yeah. Yeah.
That's the first time. I saw it once or
twice in my life. My uncle had a
computer in the early days. It was
squareish.
>> Yeah. So big firm one that's got small
one that's that's that's bendable.
>> Like every little simple game took like
five and you had to flip it in a hole.
>> Taken one and put in the other. So So
yeah. So we had that computer and for
the longest time it was just like oh I
want to have fun. I want to play with
the computer. So put in a disc and let
the computer give you an experience. Oh
this is fun. This is a game. What do we
do next with the computer? Oh well put
in another disc and play another game.
That's all. There's this interesting
clip someone showed me about Stephen
Jobs describing things this way. You
live in a world where other people built
everything and how it works. And you
think, you really get convinced that the
way how it works is yeah, you're just a
passenger seeing and receiving and
experiencing all these things that other
people made up. But then you realize
you nothing stopping you from getting
out there and also changing and making a
thing and inventing a new kind of way
how things work but no one tells anyone
that everyone thinks no no it's just
this is how the world works and then
that's it they just go along with that
vision. I also I want to do a little
shout out for you SW who believed in my
early tech dreams.
Um which in a weird way you've my my
tech dreams were we had a Tinder video
platform style to find
>> jobs to find people jobs flash
interviews.
>> Yeah. So we I I end up interviewing
thousands of thousands of people in
companies.
>> That's your hush.
>> So there's there's something called
genius hours. The 10,000 You're at the
10,000 hour rule. Malcolm Gladwell.
>> Yes,
>> I read his books. He's always great.
>> So he says that if you get something on
really really well eventually. So my
social media, which you know gets 10
million views plus a month was because
of my skills of interviewing on my
failed tech startups with my uh
co-found.
>> So was it so failed after all?
>> Exactly. Well, you got the bad end of
the stick cuz you did all the coding. I
did all the filming and my filming
evolved. You're
>> saying you have to give them half your
money now,
>> basically.
It's good. It's good. But
>> so it's funny that you you swallow my
early believers in my dreams.
>> I have to give kudos and credit to you.
I just want to
>> My pleasure.
>> Since he has nothing else from us, at
least I should give him some uh some
credit here on camera.
>> Technology is definitely cool. I I have
stars in my eyes about it every day. So,
no, it's definitely cool.
>> But I I am going to correct myself
because I was curious how you in
particular got involved in technology.
The Goldstein family saying the whole
family. The Goldstein family is
technologically advanced going back a
hundred years.
>> Is it true? Is it true that your gr your
grandfather
the one that was by the Bremer parades
that was very close to the and the
famous principal in Bakov?
>> Is it true that in 1950 he took a video
of the
>> Yes. And he officially he was in once
for our and he told him that he had a
video and said he wants to see it.
>> That was for a recording of a of a
fabbran I think. I think that was I
think he recorded a Fabrangan maybe even
>> filmed of something like that.
>> Sure. I heard
>> Yeah.
>> Reb said that he wanted to see it. I
think he played it and then the said the
Reb never gave it back.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The Reb borrowed it and it
never happened in the future that the
Reb returned it. Like the reb
Jeem doesn't have the
>> I guess.
>> So there is no we don't have a video
with
>> No, you saw America's
video. So what his video was a better
video?
>> No, that might be the one.
>> That might be the video. How much how
did they get? I took it together with
the musician that
>> maybe it wasn't the maybe it was a
recording of the that's what I remember
was a recording of the fabian s
>> the record of the only song many kids
now are playing piano
eas
>> so the tune existed before it's on oh
>> she's credit the lyrics I'm have no fear
unless I'm wrong would they take a [ __ ]
that my grandfather
if he composed it and they would put it
on. I don't think that it has
>> to be on United
>> keyboard. I don't know how to play
anything.
>> Even that you and that song that's not
>> that's the first one that everyone
learns cuz sequential the
>> straight across you don't skip anything
at least the first part.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You can be the most tonedeaf person that
song you could you can master. So there
is a stereotype about the golden that
are technologically inclined uh also
music inclined also education you know
goldstein on a lot of goldings and my
grandfather you know
>> why is she goldstein
>> yeah yeah yeah so um and also technology
so I don't know just the story in my own
house is we had that computer and you
know I'm growing up I'm we're off in
Schlitis in Spain it's land there's
there isn't Kingston Avenue there isn't
friend hyen down the
grow up in Madrid.
>> Did we what?
>> You did grow up social with like the
local Jewish kids or
>> mostly our own family, but you know, we
interacted with the local community. We
did,
but not really like close friends in
that kind of way. Not really zero much.
Not so much. No, at all. No, pretty
much. So, I'm bored at home and I'm
looking through whatever there's around
and there happens to be this manual uh
Applesoft basic uh programming language
or something like that. I recently found
it online as a PDF and read it through
again just for nostalgia purposes. And
it uh it introduced me to this whole new
world of like, hey, you can think of
your computer as this pet robot of
yours. And you tell, hey, little doggy
jump. And it jumps. And you tell, okay,
now sits. And it sits. and you tell it
commands to do and it listens to you and
it does them. And I was like, "Wow,
really? Can it do that?" And yeah, it
shows you here. Type 10 uh print hello
world or whatever and 20 uh what? I
can't even remember. This is the first
programming language I learned,
Applesoft Basic. And I started following
the instructions and typing it in. And
there's nothing like that feeling when
you press enter and you look at the
screen and it works. That gishmake
feeling of like, aha, it works. Wow,
that opens up so many possibilities. I
can tell the computer to do things
whatever I want it to.
>> This was maybe I was 11, 12 maybe 12
>> pretty much. Yeah,
>> it took about like 1998
99 what years?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Z something like that in the
summer. I remember.
>> Could AI replace doctors? I mean, where
are the like very clear things here?
This guy's out of a job within 3 years.
>> See it?
>> What?
>> I think eventually I can't
>> which like which things like a plumber
the AIS I mean I guess the robots I mean
certain things are seem AI proof certain
things now. Do you mind what comes to
mind as things that are not AI proof
versus AI?
>> Something tells me if you have an AI
plumber you're going to have leaks and
you're going to flood and swim out the
door. I don't know that I've
>> plumbers are okay. Honestly, I I
struggle with this because
>> like CPAs sound like maybe a little bit
obsolete, doctors,
>> it's really
>> lawyers writing briefs. The way I see
it, it's really all a matter of
>> lawyers for sure are suffering. I spoke
to lawyers non-stop. I meet lawyers and
should lawyers are really having it
hard. If you're a top criminal defense
attorney charging $2,000 an hour, okay,
whatever. But the entrylevel guys doing
acquisitions, paperwork, they're
drafting their gun. Their gun twisted.
So, what do you see from your AI nerdy?
>> Honestly, honestly, I am just so
surprised and baffled by how AI even
works at all. I I still don't believe it
sometimes,
>> okay?
>> That I in my mind, it's really all of
it. All of it is a matter of time.
>> It might be 50 years. It might be a 100
years, but it's all of it, I'm afraid,
is a matter of time.
Yudi Cohen, our other guest told me on
the uh earlier today that you could sing
now to an app called What's app called?
And they'll create music and background
a full orchestra just from you singing
I'm
at least I have to hire.
>> So Benny So Benny Friezman, Ellie
Marcus, should you worry? No.
>> But that's good quality voice. But they
can maybe autotune your voice and make
you sound like a nice singer. The top
performers are all going to stay rich
and all going to have gigs. I'm not
worried.
>> No, but they create a whole music
background. You used to have to arrange
and write notes and hire a 100piece band
to get all the background. And now based
on your singing and knows cuz music is
mathematical.
>> You never think of music as mathematics.
It always says mathematics. Now
>> it's quite it has also a side of it an
aspect of art, creativity, but it's it
has a lot. question. Would you pay $180
for a concert that me and G did singers?
I don't care what AI would do. The AI
make any hit songs. That's a question
people ask. They don't give me a
straight answer.
>> Some people put some things out there
and you know they're I can't I often
don't even like whatever actual real
human produced music is anyway. So when
I compare it to what AI produced for me,
they're sometimes on the same level. But
that's just my taste. Everyone has their
>> cool thing is used to like to get
animation you would have to spend
gazillions of dollars. This is where
visually or say when I say visually you
see a difference. You see these little
low budget productions creating these
crazy AI movies that usually your little
local school won't have the budget to
create a AI to any type of animation and
they're popping out
>> five to 10 minute animations.
Interesting fun fact. Um, every AI
video, especially a long sequence that
you see, notice if it is t like a single
long shot that lasts 30 seconds or 40
seconds or a minute or a minute and a
half or 2 minutes or is it constantly
cutting 5 seconds and then another 5
seconds and cut and another 5 seconds
and cut. Notice the clip. If he keeps
changing and shifting and changing and
shifting every 5 10 seconds, you know
that he generated one clip and then he
generated another one and generated and
put them together. Nowadays, these days,
you can't yet generate a very long
sequence of video. It's all cut up
little pieces put together. Notice it
next time you see an AI produced video,
especially a longer one.
>> So every
>> and the difference is
>> 20 seconds.
>> So if one issue that happens is
coherence. Sometimes you describe a
beautiful scene in the first clip and
then you want the next clip to continue
that but suddenly the guy has like a
different face or a different color hat
or a different, you know, so it's close
enough but it looks a little different
and sometimes it could be a bit jarring
like it doesn't seem that sequential but
some AIs I think have gotten better
about that too. They can, you know,
maintain the consistency from one clip
to the next. And you say that. I always
say when I have my art gallery, I have
it but not in a big format like I used
to. Everyone gravitates to the same
paintings. They all like the same
artists, the same paintings. They walk
in the gallery, there's 100 paintings,
they all go. So people intuitively, even
though they're not creative artistic
like the Goldsteins, they still
intuitively know something is off. They
all like the same good art or the same
good movie or animation, etc. As of
right now, everyone can tell when
something is AI, but I think that's
going to it's going to get
>> going to get better. It's going to get a
lot better and it's happening faster
than we than we think. But I wanted to
get back to the point about that nuda in
the faban of Reb Steve Jobs.
>> Yeah. where he says, "We see the world
how it works." And I look around and I
see how the world works and I see how we
wake up every day and we take care of
our families and we bring our kids to
school and we go to work and we make
some money and we, you know, and we come
and we make nice podcasts. By the way,
this is a little bit out of the
ordinary. This is amazing that are
coming together, putting together a
podcast, you know, interviewing people.
I think it's it's about time we need to
really uh, you know, break the fourth
wall. um you know, break the ice, talk
about things, bring stuff out on the
table. I think that's extremely
important and it's amazing that you guys
are like, you know, breaking the ice and
doing that. But what in the world is the
story with the whole Mashiach like like
for real the I mean we Lubavaurs don't
give it up.
>> Our whole thing I'm telling you, our
whole thing are supposed to be about we
bring Msiah and we teach everything
about the Reb and we bring the world
about, you know,
And what so that we can do again next
year and we can do another public
lighting next year and then another one
>> security job security
>> job right we have
>> talking about public lightings
>> yeah
your cousin was killed
>> was married to your first cousin
>> yes
>> and your uncle
>> in the hospital
>> and your uncle is Goldstein he was shot
also
>> you're keeping track this is the second
time that my close family has been
targeted in in such attacks Mrs. Man,
Mrs.
>> Mrs. Olman is my father's sister. Yeah,
my aunt. And what happens is that uh
with great tremendous sorrow, we are
heartbroken to announce the passing of
such and such and uh we need to continue
bringing the light to the world and we
need to hope and pray that Mashiach will
come and everything will be okay and
amen. And then we say and we wish each
other good day and we go to sleep and
the next day and the next day and the
next month and the next year and then
one day another thing happens if it's
October 7 or if it's Mumbai or if it's
uh now in Sydney and again we have all
these beautiful speeches people are
looking for what's the trending it's
like how do we process tragedy and I
have to sit through a whole another
drussa of a very wise rabbi no nothing
against them they're really helping
inspiring hearing people move through
things, but I'm sitting there wondering
where are the young like me and you who
are going like boring. I I heard this
already so many times
and like hey who is interested in uh
bringing them back? How about that? How
about what can we do so that we reach a
point of and like says which involves
also and them coming back. Oh. Oh, I'm
sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Is that is that
strange? Is that maybe weird? Is that
maybe like, oh, he's intangible.
>> He's a little bit of a strange Msiah guy
talking about all that. We we don't
actually actually really talk about
that. That's supposed to be the question
under the rug. We don't go there. We
don't talk about that. And I think that
there are out there, including you guys,
who are actually wondering about this. I
think we've all maybe been conditioned a
little bit over the years that just just
stay the course. Continue the mold.
Don't ask too many questions. Don't be a
Mashiach weirdo. That's for sure.
Everyone's very freaked out about that.
And uh just the the M word.
>> The M word. Right. Right. Be be normal.
Go on with your life and don't do
anything weird. And if you do anything
weird, boy, are you socially punished
for that. Oh, that weird guy
crazy. He's mishist. He's anti
770 o right by the way
>> tunnels
by the way we are the generation of
apathy we don't care
>> the hot generation why I say
>> exactly and it's it's a huge milo we can
finally break through it and ta make it
happen but
>> so so you're saying you're saying
mashiach still could come
>> what choice do we have
>> a game plan you have you have a game
plan and you have I do have a game plan.
>> What's the game? Like what what are the
exact steps? Then we could hit the the
the
>> you say whatever you're saying is
that's what you're saying.
>> So if you if you give me very specific
tasks how to do it perhaps I could but
it's it's too like ambiguous.
>> I need a a a
>> it's a I like the idea. It's great.
Msiah perfect. Just give me a very
professional
>> give me specific business strategy. Tell
me exactly how much money we have to
make or hit goals. Ask AI how to bring
Mashia.
>> And if you have to very specific goals
how Mashia has come, I'm happy to be
involved. Until then, it's
>> it seems No, I think it's messianic era,
you know. It's it's it's cool. I like
it. Nice.
>> You need a You need a flag. You have to
wave a flag every day for five minutes.
>> Need a Mashiah pin and a shovel pin.
>> I'm I'm more into the I'm very much a
shovel pin person. I think 770
definitely should be expanded.
>> It's too small. Um, but
>> through digging a tunnel,
>> whatever it is. Whatever it takes. I'm
very much
>> the way the fat are doing it is the
right way.
>> I'm very much whatever it takes.
>> Want the building to collapse?
>> I don't care what it is, you know, as
long as it's things are going.
>> By the way, do you see this? This is
sometimes a social difficulty that many
of us deal when it comes to these
things. Someone comes up to us, no
offense, but really challenges. Do you
really think what like even to do it the
wrong way? Even to do it with shovels?
Really? Are you that kind of a weirdo
that that's why you
>> But you don't back down. You're like,
"Yeah, yeah." You know what? I don't
care. Yeah. People do it with shovels.
>> I'm a little I'm a little crazy. If
they're
>> a little
>> If there's one guy
racing to the finish line and whatever
he's get, however he gets to the finish
line, people screaming, "Oh, he knocked
this guy over. He ran him over. You know
that he had no permission to do this."
And but the guy hits the finish line,
all the thousand people crying and
yinging and scratching.
>> I love it. I almost don't care what if
he
>> But what would it take
>> to get to that finish line? I'm very
like biased for the guy who actually
gets it done.
>> But what would it take for me and you
and you to go behind them and support
them
>> because it's easy for us to say that on
the podcast. But when it came to that
day when those bakim were like we're
doing this
>> I I want to be clear. I admit I every PM
I wear the Msiah
>> tunnel pin only.
>> Beautiful.
>> Every perm.
>> Every perm to you. He's bringing Msiah
with the tunnel. My my brother always
says, if you want to know what people
who they really are, look on Pur and how
they're dressed up. That's who they
really want to be.
>> It's not what I heard you tell the guy
in Atika. You told the guy in Atika that
when you want to get to the front of the
cookie wine in the oil, you're an anti.
And when you want a good spot at 770,
you're
>> I usually say in tish I'm
>> Oh,
I'm anti. Gil is an anti. It's like it's
obvious to be an anti. So you know but
tish that's I always say the best event
of the year is you have the running it
so the music is good it's a nice stage
and who's actually creating the
>> in the rain and everything
>> like after 3:00 a.m. secret. Hey guys,
want to let you know
>> all the people that come to crown of aa
and they come until 3, bro.
>> Yeah,
>> that's not
>> 3 to 6. They really
>> 3 to 6. It's full full energy.
>> It's full of yellow.
>> If you want to cheat a hash at night,
you come from 12:30.
You get the same energy.
>> You don't have to stay up till 3,
>> right?
>> Just as a little insider info.
>> So, to answer your question, I need two
things. I need a professional, I don't
know, psychologist or something to
analyze this pattern that keeps
happening. So you say you say as a
destination or as a mentality
>> both I don't know what do you want from
me with that that sounds too
philosophical mashia like
>> cuz I always tell people I love mash
personalities
I don't necessarily believe what they
believe
>> and the anti-personalities who
you want to party with but if you're
trying to run a business stick with the
anti you want to have a good PR campaign
now I don't know if the flyers of the PR
pain of the ant actually get on the
polls cuz it's fat Pu they could put
Jackie Robertson. They get their
distribution and marketing is way
better.
>> How do they get so high and put that
Messiah Reba thing on every single thing
in the home?
>> You look at random.
>> So if you need execution, you know,
actually get the the signs, bro.
>> Some random goss like YouTubers videos
that they film, you know, going down the
streets of Manhattan when you see like
it's in their videos.
>> How do they get it there?
>> Ask them.
>> When do they come?
>> I can show you who the guy is.
>> Middle of night.
>> Yeah. They once asked me if they could
borrow my car. I said I was thinking
maybe because I like them.
>> You'll get arrested.
>> But now let's track my license plate for
there's cameras everywhere. I
>> It's called It's called Mitz Mitsahbaka
where they put glue all over.
>> That's what they call it. It's a joke.
But it's Yeah,
>> it's not it's not a joke.
>> No, no, the stickers isn't the fact that
they call it baka.
>> It's one of the t of times.
>> But hey, here's the thing. Okay. Um if
>> hold on you know they asked is it Howard
Lutnik who's Trump's guy here the he
came to the
>> somebodynick. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So he they asked him why Trump
come to the oil that's where the rebur
before he's like he says if these if you
have he told the media he says if you
have a bunch of guys all believe this
guy is a messiah you should definitely
go to his grave site a great marketing.
They're all like walk around I see the
sticker. What? That was his, you know,
>> nice
>> politically he was not aligned to what
he was saying. But
>> let me ask you and you throw
>> but they get the job done. Kudos to
them.
>> If you go on for the rest of Ever after,
okay,
and more, okay? And you get to interview
a lot of on this podcast and you get to
raise your children and make mitzvah and
make weddings and grow a whiter beard
and grow old age and that is the story
of your life. Exactly.
>> Are you cool with that? Are you cool
with that? Of
>> course not.
>> I am so not cool with that. That's not
okay. But right now, it seems to be the
proposition. Just go on in life. Just do
the thing. Just live it out till the
end. And that it is what it is. Where do
you want to go? Go fight city hall. Go
climb on walls. Go bring mashiach.
Whack. Don't be a wacko. I'm not okay. I
protest. This is not I don't I don't
think
>> What do you want your impact on legacy
to be? Impact. You
>> want your name on a hospital building, a
yeshiva building? Tell us
>> legacy.
>> First of all, you make your crazy
announcement in 770 so people will not
forget you make announcement 770.
>> They just get up.
>> Well, what do you announce? I'll send
you some clips. Maybe in
>> Give me an example. Give me a whole
audience. We have thousands of views.
What What's your Give me an
announcement.
>> I just said it. He said
>> just ended and now what do you say?
>> For example, I've been trying to ask the
in 770. We've said in this kind of way
for these many years.
Let's really welcome Mashiach in the way
Mashiach himself right you're saying
right that he'd be happy if only felt
comfortable about this so let's announce
this way clap clapent for all those who
feel comfortable with the announcement
we will now proceed with making the
announcement and for all those who are
not fully comfortable we understand and
we give we you know this is a mashiach
safe space or whatever we borrow the
concept
from the left and like we understand you
and we tolerate that and then go ahead
and announce
>> and then what are the what should they
announce
>> whatever they'd like by the way there is
a clear with the clear words
you wear
>> I'm embarrassed but currently it's not
the one
>> however however I switch
>> that's why you wear that every two weeks
Every two weeks
>> for two weeks the mishistan go nuts
they're like what you became an anti
what why are you wearing without and
then conversation comes up again and we
have a fab about it and we can talk
about it otherwise they'll just ignore
me then I switch and now the anti what
what happened with you became a mish
suddenly what happened and we talk about
it again the conversation has to keep
going you can't just leave it to you
have to you have to trickle for what
teases them best
>> so hey tavis is not a day
>> you know
But not like I said, I'm embarrassed. I
should have I should have It's It's
rotation.
>> By tomorrow, we'll do CH already, right?
>> I'll have to now that you mention it.
>> 100%. We win. We We really need to go
out with this winning spirit. We the
young we we got to say it's very nice
what our parents achieved and what our
mashim and our bonim and all the gray
beards and all the makers in Lubavich,
they built amazing things. They built
this whole situation that we have now.
They came up with this whole amazing
thing
announcing. They built a whole beautiful
system. Now it's our turn. We got to get
up and do our part and get up and make a
thing happen.
>> You saw I'm sorry. My son just bought a
3D printer this week.
>> Yeah.
>> Got him cuz he did the 12 pro.
>> The 12 truck.
>> Yes.
>> Wow.
>> Not related. I have to check his DNA.
>> Not related.
>> Crazy.
>> Very nice. 3D printing
familiar with that space at all?
>> I've never done it myself. I've seen it.
I've heard it, but I don't have much
that much to do with it.
>> You don't know. My next question is how
far away from 3D print people just print
mic stands, a microphone like people
like at one point
>> the brains inside it the
>> I don't know. I I'm I'm saying but you
don't know anything about 3D printing.
How far are we from people just printing
their own bottles, cans?
What capacity does AI play a role in?
Because I'm like, you know, now that we
just have a 3D printer in our house, I'm
like amazed, you know, I'm suddenly it
gave me like this futuristic
>> awareness.
>> What you're holding could be made with
3D printing.
>> This
>> Yeah,
>> for the simple cheap stuff.
>> I think the next step will be they'll
have like centers. You go to a store and
you print out a few utilities or a few
cans or a few bottles or something with
some general purpose machine that's very
expensive. You can't just buy it to have
it in your house, but it builds a few
things for you.
>> Do you want have to hold a company won't
have to hold inventory?
>> Maybe. Well, it depends if it'll it'll
be cost effective. It might still be
most cost effective to have China print,
you know, 500 million of something. And
that might still make sense for another
while,
>> but eventually it's going to hit a point
where stores manufacturers probably just
creating code to create certain 3D
products versus holding inventory and
they're just going to make licensing
just like a YouTube video you make per
listen. The compan making money based on
their R&D, their re, you know, their
investment.
>> It's gonna happen. It's just a matter of
time. But how and when I'm I don't I
guess I don't know enough in that space.
All the guys that are losing their jobs
to AI and they're going to be making
those machines and contributing those
machines. A new job is being created.
>> Yeah, new jobs will always be created
probably or not. We won't have any more
jobs.
>> Elon Musk always says it's going to be
equal what's it called?
>> Yeah, a universal uh income and you have
more time.
>> I need two things. I need a professional
psychologist to help me through this
pattern that always keeps happening.
>> Help you with what? to help me with this
pattern that always keeps happening.
>> I suggest, hey, let's do something.
Let's bring Oh, I just got it. No
problem.
>> I'm slow sometimes. I need to ask my
psychologist about that.
>> Um, we always ask, yeah, let's bring
Mashiach. Okay, what's the plan? What do
we do? And I go ahead and I try to
describe a thing or two or three and it
trails off somehow. It doesn't
>> say there's no
>> and it and people are like, "Oh, yeah,
that. No, I don't think so. I
unsubscribe. I go home. It doesn't. What
is with that pattern? I might just have
to develop the marketing or the branding
or how it's explained because there's
something there that just doesn't
>> a channel you were asking people all
about Mashiach and what we could do.
Tell me some of the names of the people
you interviewed. I think you had some
heavy hitters.
>> We had Oh, you did the Rabashkin
>> teacher in in Raashkin was free.
>> Yeah. No, I went around with a
microphone in 770.
>> 770 asking random people, what do you
think we can do to bring Mashiah now
that we're in this Mashiach situation?
It was the night
>> yesterday. How many years ago was it?
Yeah. Eight years ago.
>> N I can't remember even the first time
Trump was uh
>> president. His first term. Yeah. First
year of his first.
>> End of his first term.
>> End of his first year.
>> Oh, of his year.
>> Of his first year.
>> Yeah.
>> So, this is the latest podcast we ever
filmed.
>> Almost midnight.
>> Wow. Really? What time?
>> Yeah. 11:40 at night.
>> Wow. What time do we start, TJ?
>> Like I said, I'm going to
>> 10:40.
>> I'm going to have a hefty shi to pay for
this. But hey, if we're here already,
it's worth it. Hey, look. I was just
saying
>> Oh, you had Rabbi Brian on your Mashiah
podcast.
>> I I interviewed Rabbi Brian. I had a
clip of it, but I have not yet edited
and produced it yet. And
>> what did he say?
>> He said that
agree on like 99.9% of everything. And
wants to keep us for going for another
30 years just on that last 0.01%
thing about this difference or that
difference, whatever. But we all believe
we should go on. We all believe we
should put on. We all believe we should
go down. We all believe we should light.
We all believe we all agree on
everything and we get hooked up on that
last annoying thing and we could work
together and we have to work together. I
interviewed how longer teacher in
Yeshiva
was Manis Friedman Friedman. I had a
beautiful interview with him. I like to
believe that after I did that interview
a lot more of his clips of interviews
had to do more in the mashiach
direction. I'd like to believe I had
something to do with that.
>> Um,
>> you're saying people aren't blushing
anymore?
>> You're saying, hold on, after this
podcast, our future podcast will be more
messianic.
>> I hope. Hey, let's see it happen. That
would be amazing. And if you guys can
instill in your interviewees this idea
of like, hey, what are we waiting for?
Let's wake up. Let's do this. We don't
have to like ask permission and wait for
big bro Labavich to give us permission.
That are you allowed to or are you not
allowed to?
>> Who Who is it? Well, I mean, look, when
they started shoveling over there,
right? Who called the police? Who
>> Who's a big bro? Hey, I haven't met them
yet.
>> But whoever it is, someone is afraid of
them. And they're not, you're right,
they're not there. They're not real. But
we still just go on like, "Wake up.
Let's do this. Let's make this happen.
There's so many."
>> Were you one of the tunnelers or no?
>> Uh, sadly not, I guess.
>> Sadly not. Okay.
>> But let's make a thing happen. This is
boring. This
>> came with a game plan. You haven't?
>> I do. I do. That was my second thing. I
need to formulate what the steps are
because they're there. I also suspect
you guys know what the game plan is.
>> We just generally don't really want to I
think you guys know
>> if you tell me if I build the tower a
certain feet tall and Mashia will come.
Boom. If you tell me if I eat a certain
amount of chocolate milk with cookies,
you hit give very specific.
>> If I told you very specific and you'll
hit the goal. Tell me something
is
he living the mashia life.
What's his name?
>> Jeam.
>> Is Jamia Who am I mixing?
>> One and only
>> the one that does the Mashiah here in
770 every morning. What's his name?
>> Jam.
>> One and only.
>> Ah, his father's the father.
>> He has both. He's
>> Yeah. Yeah. No. So he he lives Msiah all
day, you know. Like he's an example.
>> Everybody acts like him.
>> If if everyone took it to the next
level,
>> is he the next level?
>> He is. But he can also everyone can do
more.
>> What else should he do?
>> You know what? At least that at least he
should ask like what you just asked. If
we all just did that, my job here is
done. I'm going home.
>> If everyone asked what is the next thing
that we could do, just ask that. Don't
stop ask. We go back to our regular life
and we don't ask that anymore. Don't do
that. Wake up tomorrow. Ask your
friends. Ask your colleagues at Shakis
afteram. Ask your co-workers. What is
the next step we can do? lose Michelle
cuz he has like a backlog of three years
of programming work that whenever he
wants I always bother him about this. He
just types on the finger and the money
starts coming in because he's so backlog
in demand for his tech work.
>> There is this concept
>> that for him it's real machine. Imagine
CL you're waiting shvitzing for a deal
for this book. You're
>> saying you're saying he has a few does
he have Bitcoin? A lot of Bitcoin
>> probably has a lot of things going on
but imagine you had customers that you
just have to call to deliver. You don't
have to call selling. So he has three
years of backlog of coding.
>> There's this concept of
>> so for him Msiah is very real because
for him he literally prints money. He
just types and the money justing
he just tells people
lots of
>> that's the only reason why he's a
believer because the money is mish a
joke for him.
>> If it's so good if it's so good then why
I should sit back relax and enjoy golus.
What's my problem? There is this thing
about license by the way. Do you have a
license? And people's reality is very
reflective.
>> Do you have you have license? Do you
have a license to talk about and about
because there is this concept that you
can lose your license? What if you're
growing old if you have a deathly
sickness?
If your parasa is going boom, if someone
died, if a tragedy happened close to
you, then suddenly, oh, that's why he's
talking about Mashiach because you lose
your license. You're like, oh, I get it.
No, I'm a normal guy. I don't need the
whole mashia thing. But he Right. Right.
I get it. So you could lose your
license. You guys, there's no
outstanding big reason now that you lost
your license. You guys have your license
now. Use it. Go to your
>> Sure.
>> Ask and talk and bring it out. Now you
can talk about it. If something
happened, it never will. You're going to
lose your license. So, if someone wants
to reach out to you about your Messiah
uh passion or to if they want to be on
the backlog of three years of IT work,
how do they find you?
>> I don't know what else to say other than
should I just give up my phone number,
your email?
>> Honestly, no. We Let's do We'll do it
live. We'll do it live.
>> 3477
>> 760. Close enough. 760943.
>> If I am He's aspirated. Let's just do
this.
>> If he was more mash be 770, so he has
way to go. He's not obsessed enough.
>> We'll get there. We'll approach to it.
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>> Yeah.
>> Uh who else?
>> What What is he still doing?
>> Making another
>> Oh, he's holding the the the
>> He's blocking. He's blocking it. Oh, now
we can see it. We can see it.
>> Yeah. Smear has not sponsored. So, I was
I told you so bring it on the show. He
says, "But it's Smeirnov is part of
Kabad. It's more religious than
branding." I said, "Okay."
Let's make it happen.
>> I do apologize for my yawning. It's the
latest. It's what? Almost 12.
>> Very, very late at night. I agree. All
forgiven. But guys, let's do it. Okay,
let's someday. You know what? It doesn't
have to be today. Today, we'll go home.
We'll enjoy another day in we'll say,
we'll party. We'll fall asleep. But
someday
shout out.
>> Let's do it. Let's make it happen.
Theorist Studios for being flexible
tonight, staying up so late and our
wonderful messianic
canled and rescheduled 16 times in 10
hours and we appreciate
>> very persistent.
>> We appreciate that.
>> I'm going to make an apology. I'm going
to make an apology for last week. We had
a great great great guest, but the
studio was a little bit underperforming
that we went to.
>> It was like a 770 challen
weak. But everybody should watch episode
14 because the content is gold.
>> You just the microphones, the cameras,
whatever. But now we're back to a great
studio with a great guest. But give
episode 14 a chance.
>> Thank you sir again for coming.
>> Thank you for having me.
>> And you actually you're probably the
most expensive billable guest we had cuz
you actually make like what 150 180 an
hour.
>> What?
>> He actually builds it.
>> Much more.
>> He actually builds other guests. They do
deals. So it's not billable for him. He
like an hour's actual money.
>> You should know I I feel very very
honored to be here. I I often have the
in a certain inferiority complex. I
don't get to be with the big people. The
Izzy from Izzy Rant and Misha Frank
himself from
>> We changed the name by the Tyra. It's
Clappy. It's over.
>> I am starruck. This is a huge honor.
Thank you so much for having me. I I
can't believe I can't believe this is
happening.
>> He's so com He loves and so comfortable
being the underdog. He's not sure what
he's in a fancy Manhattan studio with
currently the biggest Kabad podcast. You
know, we're the most viewed Kabad. Are
we Are we Kabad? Well, this one this
episode definitely
>> I don't I don't want to get sued. I'm
unaffiliated with Kabad. I'm a friend of
I'm a friend of Labavich.
>> Hold on. Friends Labavich is also a
nonforprofit
a different type of friend.
Oh, so but this I we're you know we I'm
always as a a new creative project
always looking for benchmarks and wins.
I'm trying to say what are we the
biggest like we're the biggest Kabad
podcast
>> average.
>> I know you're going to do it. You're
going to make it happen.
>> And we hope to grow further beyond that.
>> You will.
>> And we will with your
>> keep on bringing interesting hevran. Not
like me real.
>> Okay. And
>> interesting. He what I'm brother you
getting gold soon. He says, he says any
guest that says everything without is
the guest you need. So here we have it.
>> I had please.
Thank you so much.