When Tisha B'Av Falls Out On Shabbos - The Far Reaching Ramifications

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because we're just returning from the location of a number of where the kinos actually transpired we were just at the square where the burning of the talmud was in and many of the places where the crusaders traveled we saw the aqueducts built by the romans so we had firsthand footage of a lot of the real life locations of the kinos everyone's quarterly invited if you haven't yet gotten your safe era on the three weeks nine days now is a good time to get it and time for tish above and now that we're back from france the news of the next trip we're already working on it but we're not going to announce it now during the nine days but stay tuned in the merced for next wednesday night okay so we have a very important topic this uh evening and that is how do we view tish above that comes out on shabbos what perspective should we have regarding we know what tishbo comes out on chavez it's pushed off to sunday okay it's pushed off to sunday so does that is it more lenient or is it more strict say how could it be more strict why would it be more strict so that is the subject of tonight's sheer we begin with the comment of the rush islamic base the rush says that if tishb comes out on shabbos you could eat as much as you want you could bring upon your table as much food as in his time you want normally at the sudasama seques you can't eat two cooked dishes this year at the sodas map seconds you could have a full blown five-star gala kiddush you don't have to refrain from anything there's no sitting on the floor there are no eggs there are no ashes usually there's no crying at the susanos i know you guys usually you're sitting there on the floor weeping into the cup then you dip the bread in the cup with the ashes none of that you eat as much as you want on shabbos you could eat you don't have to refrain from any of the five inuyim and says the rash ain't sinnah even though antishiba mishamita marital relations is prohibited not this shabbos says the rush on this shabbos even though it's tish above none of the restrictions apply that's the opinion of the rush and then the rush quotes the opinion of his rebbe who's the rebbe of the rash ravino mayer who's that the maharam may rotenberg the great rebbe of the russia ruthenberg is the author of kingdom members shali surfabaish remember and he's the rebbe of the rush when he was captured in the palace and einstein so the marami rosenberg pascal that they're now to redeem him and his student the rush disagreed the rash said that you're allowed to pay as much as you want for a hostage when the hostage is the god of hadar so the rush quotes his rebbe rabbino mayor who in turn quotes his rebbe who's the rebbe of the mirami ruthenberg that's right the arzarua rabbitzhak mivina and he says when tishb comes out on shabbos even though we push it off till sunday but regarding certain it's still tishabha regarding why just like if somebody has a relative that passes away on yamdiv what's the halacha does the available start on yamtiv no that was pushed up to after you but divarim is that means that even though we push off the availas that's only for public matters but for private matters we still conduct ourselves in avelos on yomtif if somebody has not bayless so too when tishma comes out on shabbos even though we push off tisha buff to sunday regarding private matters it's tish above and private matters taj mahal is us sir says marami wrote and says my romney rothenberg tish above and mourning of els are the same this is the sack of the arzarua rothenberg my rebbe said it's a sir batasha mita on tishbo that comes out on shabbos then all the jewish people have to follow my rebbe rabbits look me vino there's arua you think the basa mikdash is at least worthy enough that one time a year you'll refrain from tashmeshamita i says the raj i don't agree with my robbie why not because everybody knows that morning is much more strict than tish above because somebody loses a relative it's a fresh pain tish above happened two thousand years ago so you can tell me oh just like if somebody loses a relative on yomtif tishbov comes in on shabbos taj mahal sir what does one thing got to do with the other availos is much more painful than tish above when people lose a relative they actually cry and tisha people spend the most of the majority of the day picking out what danish they're gonna eat when it's over and if not that then on allah that and if not they don't do that they at least are making the great mitzvah of watching jewish movies on tish above right you know that even though the gemara says that tishb you're supposed to mourn the basha mikdash but nowadays we have this great mitzvah of watching jewish movies and especially if they're inspiring if they're inspiring then it's even the greatest possible myth i what do they have to do with the destruction of the bay sahmiktash but as long as you feel inspired that's you know i'm joking but says the rush even though you could differentiate between morning and tish above my rebbe said tasha shamit is forbidden you would listen to my rebbe even if he was lenient even if he was strict and i and i'm lenient certainly he's being strict and i feel you could be lenient you gotta follow my rabbi says marami ruthenberg so again this is the rush quoting his rebbie the marami rottenberg quoting his rebbe reviews and the marauding workers saying that even though i don't really agree with my rebbe but my rebbe said dvaram shabbat sinnoh should be us all the jewish nation has to follow him says the rush that's nice that my rebbe thinks that everyone has to listen to his rebbe but i don't think that everyone needs to listen to my rebbe and therefore the rush says i think tasha shamita should be mother and that's the minhag okay that's the opinion of the rush and this is a very important lesson in learning if tishb comes out on shabbos you allow to eat you'll add a drink you're allowed to wash and it's muthur who she does that the rash comes rama viesh is what is the practice that's the minhog the minogue is it's prohibited who is that like rottenberg in the name of rabbit now the ramos says some asur and that's the min hug that mean it's only a min hug to ascertain which means says meshabura that if a woman's lael tavila comes out this friday night it's mutter because it's not inherently usur it's only a humra so therefore if the the friday night is allowed to villa it's matar otherwise we're stringent now on tish above itself of course it's uh sir on tish above itself in the night time one may not even touch their wife we're not no you could pass things but you can't nigiya's asura the knight of tisha during the day yes what is the majoricus between the marami rotenberg and the rush why would one opinion say tasha amita is permitted that's the opinion of the rash and why would the marami rotenberg say tasha mita is user so let us try to analyze the londos of what occurs when tishua comes out on shabbos in general what day of the month do we fast for hurumbasan mikdash the ninth why do we fast the ninth when did the temple actually burn down the majority of the temple burned down on the 10th so why do we fascinate so comes up as if i would have been around and they would have asked me i would have gotten up and i was said tish above is the tenth why should he fast the ninth the majority of the temple burned down on the 10th if i would have been around i would have made it on the 10th anymore that the beginning of the punishment is worse the the beginning of something is much much worse than the end of it some say it's because israel when you light a fire what's going to happen is latent in the initial configuration some say once heard from um a great rabbi of a woman he once explained that if somebody hears bad news the initial report of it is the most devastating and shocking and then afterwards you sort of get used to it so the beginning of something is always worse but rabbi yochanan says that if tish above comes out on that that he would tish above have the 10th because the majority of the base members burned down on the 10th when tishb comes out on shabbos and it's pushed off to sunday you know who's like jumping through hoops who's so happy about that he's like finally we have a real tishbath it's actually that comes out on shabbos that's pushed up to the tenth is more humor than a regular teshaba because the regular tissue was on the wrong day and then now it's on the right day on the other hand rebbe held that when tijuana comes out on shabbos he said let's get rid of it rebbe was a very popular that was a very popular opinion rebbe wanted the gemara in mcgill on daf hey says uh rebbi rakhats because shall see paired shiva but overrides the levator tishb he wants to invade anyone and he said once you push it or push it off completely so rebbe would look at this year's tishbo and said what are you guys doing spend the whole day watch as many jewish movies as you can it's not even tishabha you know and rabbi with rabbi says no this is the real tish above so says the sab soy fair that actually we could probe and analyze and try to get to the bottom of how do we view tish above that comes out on shabbos do we view it that when tijuana comes out on shabbos tish above the shabbos the only thing is we can't not eat on shabbos we cannot drink on chabas we cannot bathe on chabas so we have to push that off to sunday but whatever we could observe on shabbos we would observe on chavez so regarding private matters granting taxes which we could not do on shabbos so regarding that shall this is tisha so do we view it that tishb comes out on shabbos and it's pushed off to sunday or do we say that since tishb cannot be observed on shabbos under these circumstances tish above is not shabbos it's sunday this year when right that's the khakira the question is the the two the two star tomorrow do we do we consider it that when this book comes out on shabbos it's really shabby says tishbov but since you can't observe it you reschedule and you push it off you you put it on sunday or under these circumstances tish above this year comes out on shabbos why can't you pass because the prophet isaiah said the quran you got to enjoy the shabbos when your paper falls out because we have a direction that you fast even on chalice to eat and you don't have to eat midday rice on on uh on chavez so shabbos the yom kippur wins but when it comes to tish above shabbos ones so the sub surface says like this the rush that says tashma shamita's mother you know how the rush views it the raj says this year shabbos is not tish above sunday is tishaba sunday is tishabhav tajamito is mutteran chavez on the other hand the marami rotenberg and the arzarua say that tish above is shabbos it's just you can't observe certain things so that's pushed off to sunday but you could observe so since you could observe it is how do you view tishbo that comes out on shabbos do we say that it falls on shabbos and you push off whatever you can't observe whatever you could observe tish above the shabbos or do we say it's not shabbos this year it's sunday that's the khakira rabbyoghran would say probably it's sunday because at least that's the right day rebbe would say no it's shabbos what would you say about the following question raise your hand if you have a birthday during the year okay just checking now raise your hand if your birthday comes out in the month of auv really you heard the gladstone what half dollar so good only one birthday well raise your hand if your birthday comes out on the tenth day of av who wants to volunteer to make believe their birthday is nism nissam make believe his birthday is on the 10th day of could you also make believe you're 13 years old okay so nissan is becoming bar mitzvah this sunday and by the way naftali gladstein is becoming bar mitzvah a few weeks ago but he's leaning this coming uh chavez nachamu okay i know you can live in lawrence wherever you live you could walk in or you could stay for lunch you could stay for the whole shabbos you could come friday night already you could come now you could move in if you want into naftali's room but let's say your bar mitzvah is this sunday do you need to fast this sunday so you'll say what do you mean even if i'm not bar mitzvah i'm old i'm close enough to bar mitzvah to fast if you're not bar mitzvah not only do you not fast you're not allowed to fast i don't care oh i'm a macho guy and uh i'm cool i've been fasting since i'm two and a half years old you're not at a fast before your bar mitzvah unless except for yom kippur at age 11. you're not allowed to oh what do you mean but i once heard you're supposed to fast three times before your bar mitzvah now i know people are going to send me emails they have a custom ruben said there are three things that people have made up that you need to do three times number one that you need to fast three times before your bar mitzvah no no such thing and i know people can say they're mine i'm just telling you what what shamazalman says one thing no you don't fast three times before you bar mitzvah until your bar mitzvah you eat once you grab it so you don't need this is all the fast besides yom kippur the other thing is people say in order to move a safer tower you have to use it three times you don't have to use it three times you just need to have an urine for it and the other thing is people think you need to wash your hands three times for bread you only wash your hands two times for bread got it so let's say a kid is bar mitzvah on sunday do they have to fast so so we say like this if the tish above really is shabbos and we fast on sunday it's like you went you bought a ticket to a met game and it was rained out so they give you a double header the next day so look on shabbos i wasn't kaif to fast sunday's only a makeup you're potter from fasting now that would be a good bar mitzvah shuttle how is it possible to be a bar mitzvah and not have to fast on tisha buff if this will come out on shabbos and push up the sun then you become bar mitzvah on sunday well if it's a makeup for sunday i didn't have to fast shabbos i don't have to fast sunday but if under the circumstances where tishb comes out on shabbos it doesn't fall out on shabbos the initially make it sunday because anyway that's the day that the majority of the basement just burnt down then of course you have to fast now since the halal is regarding is it mutter or only or us that means we hold really it's permitted but it's a hummer that all of khalifa has accepted upon themselves but if it's permitted that means we hold bikr tish above is sunday so then would have to fast got it yeah you're sure you want to say it over after next nafgamina we know there's something called swoosh above the week that tish above comes out in the week that tishb comes out in is much more hammer for instance even though the minute is not to take a haircut and not to shave the whole three weeks we know that if somebody for the need for the sake of harnessing would need to shave one could shave let's say up till the week of tishabhav or there are certain stringencies that we observe up to the week of tishbath what is the week of tish above this year so the mahabharata says that is the week of tisha by the way all the days after tisha b'av also no it's only that week before tisha b'av so it says that if tishbo comes out on sunday or shabbos and it's pushed off to sunday the week after shabbos and sunday it's permitted to launder and to do take a haircut and the week before is also permitted then the mahabharata says some say the week before is prohibited says rama the middle gets to be mahmeer anyway from rashford and haircuts all three weeks now you have to know how to learn the makhabar says the week if tishb comes out on shabbos or sunday the week after is permitted the week before is permitted whose opinion is that the mahabharat just says unattributed he doesn't say some say it's permitted he says it's permitted and then he brings yeash meshamer there are those who say the week before his usur so when the macabre says one opinion stam and one opinion yes me sha'imer which one is he pascaling like the first one the stam one the unqualified one which means the skins this year there is no schwa boytish above there is no schwa by the way which opinion is the first opinion the rash number seven ah you mean it should be tishwav comes out on shabbos yeah digital comes that we've been discussing if we view it then when tishaw comes out on shabbos it's really it comes out on shabbos but what could we do we pushed off to sunday so then the whole week before it should be astor because it's the tishb like david is saying and that would be the opinion of the marame ruthenberg and robertson who says tasho shamita's offer and then you would say a cotton who is bar mitzvah on yod ave would not have to fast because he wasn't he didn't have to fashabus why should he have to fast on the makeup but if you hold that under the circumstances where tishb comes out on shabbos it doesn't fall out on shabbos under these circumstances it's inherently it's this year it's sunday so there is no schwa because about the sunday so the whole week before has no relevance to tisha b that means the makhabar is going like the first opinion the first opinion is the rash and the rash is the shitase the rash who holds that tasmita is is permitted friday night because friday night is not tish above he holds there is no shiva shikhaba tishb of this year and that's how we hold we hold this here there's no schwa by so you say if there's no then it would come out that let's say you wanted to travel somewhere for rashi's yard site which was and you're not going to make it back until the nine days where perhaps one would say you can't just travel for leisure during during the nine days so how could those people go to rabbe no tam and the rihazoke and the chagas area they're coming back during the ninth are you allowed to travel during the nine days says of shmuel kaminetsky yes this year you're allowed to why number one because this is not like going to you know it's not like you're going to uh the riviera over here you're going to rashes kevin this is not like you're going on some leisure vacation but also said there's no schwa this year because tish above is sunday it's not shabbos so this year for if you for work or if i not so technically you would be permitted to yeah over the 90s what the nine days are equivalent to three weeks lagabe shaving yes yeah will be shaving yes lagabe meat no regarding wine no for svardhan there's no such thing as the 90s basically i heard some do either the nine days yeah but some don't eat the rockets yeah all right i can't speak for moroccans no um next now this is very interesting now there are some people who are very very much aware on this we know that on tishbo we don't learn and some people they just you know outside of the ima they don't learn the whole year because it might be tisha buff you know it could get confusing it might or might be lel nittle you know we don't learn on tesla what about arab tishman but the rama has an interesting humra the rama the rama's you don't learn arab tishb from except for the uh items that you're allowed to learn on tish above itself what about says rama if tish above comes out on shabbos so now shabbos becomes arab tish above so then you don't learn parque alba says rama shabba this afternoon time and you don't go for shabbat syrian arab tishb you don't go for a stroll now this is very interesting the mission brewer wants to know why don't you learn arab tissue says mr word because tara makes you happy but it says mishra this is not a halacha because you're a lady of tish above so why can't you learn so the bishop says because since we have other options you could learn kamsa bhaktam sam khatta nyamiyah so there's a minute not to learn now suzuma shabura this minhag is very questionable many acharainem say it's a good minute not to learn i'm talking about when tishbov comes out during the week an hour of tisha b'av is during the week many achievements say it's a good custom not to learn arab tissue after khasis even if arab tish above is shabbos follow the raman don't say perce avoids but many acronyms says in the shibura question this minute very much number one the marshall says marshall i learned arab tishbot after khazois i let other people learn it brings a lot of bitter torah what do you mean the guy's a big mosquito i'm a big mass man when i can learn what i want to learn but now you tell me i have to learn kamsa about kamsa for the 500th time how many times could i learn that the mayama murakai says even a big mass mid he doesn't want to learn maid cotton again he now go learn iaive i'll learn when i want to learn ef don't force me to learn and therefore my memorica says and he learns arabic and therefore says the mishna brewer somebody who wants to learn arab tishma after khasis in regular year we don't throw rotten tomatoes at them so if i were to ask you what is the best thing to do arabic with africa choice to learn or not to learn better not to better to learn cancer by kamsa if somebody does you don't take an old tomato and throw it at them okay i don't want to see you throwing any old tomatoes at people learning arabic the mystic world continues that regarding when arab tishbo comes out on shabbos the ta says okay you don't want to learn arab tishbo after khasa is fine but when when it's shabbos no you're not gonna there's no problem learning arab tish above shabbos you want to learn era of tish above shabbos after khazois not only will we not throw um round tomatoes on you at you you could rely on that in other words it's not even better not to learn so in the opinion of the mishabura this year er era of tishbob after khatsoys you can learn okay then there we have the beer halacha and the biryani quotes says that not to learn era of tish above on shabbos says there's no reason not to learn either ahma says you could learn var muhammutaram says that's not a good reason because people will only learn what they want to learn we see many times i have a question on tish above itself you're now to learn regular things so you're allowed to learn counts about kamsa you're allowed to learn year me or you're allowed to learn do you have to or are you allowed to twiddle your thumbs if you want in other words we know on a regular day a person has an obligation to learn whenever they can how about on tish above what do we say do we say one samputter from tamatora in other words once i'm now to learn regular things do i could i sit around and watch jewish movies the whole day or am i obligated to learn dvaram hamutaram says even very big time and we see when tish above comes they don't learn so much i why don't they learn because they don't really want to learn that they're not you know you they don't like to learn that that's not what they're that's not what their regular learning is and says count me among those who have a hard time learning on tish above the muttaram therefore i do not pay attention to the rama i hold that even when tishb comes out on a weekday an hour of tissue was a weak day you could learn right up to tish above and if i had enough guts i would have said you should learn on tisha buff itself says if i wasn't afraid of the other rabbis in town i would say you should learn on tish above why because what are people doing on tisha you're saying oh don't learn so what are people doing they spend half the day wandering the streets of the supermarket should i get a chocolate danish should i get a cheese danish should i get a danish with a cherry and they spend hours an hour and then they have hakiras what kind of eggs should they have with onions without onions oranges with the pulp aren't just without the pulp strained and by the time they're finished thinking about their post fast festivities the day is almost over and and people of course on a higher madriga they don't spend the whole day in the supermarket but they go from one jewish inspirational video to the next it says that my more that's why god made tisha b'av for people to be inspired got me tissue to mourn for the best so people are not doing that so you're better off learning i would say you should learn open up your gemara it's better than wandering the supermarket thinking about danishes better than watching inspirational movies so you should just learn but what could i do nobody's going to agree with me and it's similar to that which the ushami says the ishami said really they if it was up to them they would allow people to work on halamite because the only reason now to work on is so that people could learn what people are sitting in the basement they're learning the whole call of mine they're not doing that so they're better off going to work so too says my opinion you're better off learning on tisha above itself but look i don't have the power to do that but on arab tish above of course you'll have to learn it's not mentioned in sha's not to learn it's not in the place come not to learn and i learn up to the night avada if you're on such a madriga and you could learn either me uh but for regular people like me moroccan i learned arab tishbo right up to khatsas now the question is rabbi sai says the mogan avraham what about this year where shabbis is tishab okay it's pushed off to sunday regarding eating regarding drinking but just like maybe shamita's officer maybe you're now that'll learn the whole shabbos this year because shabbos is tishabov so the mughal rum brings assad you're not going to learn the shabbos that's it would be public not but it's not so obvious you're not learning so you just you know you'll nap and you'll uh i don't know you'll you'll walk around the block is it so obvious mugging of rum brings an opinion maybe you're not allowed to learn this to shabop it's very low it's very that's how you want to lean the tissue off it's from your bar mr prussia it's not like you're on the spot here it's not like there are other people in the room or on the video we'll see so says the hassam saifer the khakira of the muggin of ram of whether you like to learn the shabbos is how do we view tishbo that comes out on chavez if we view it that tish above his shabbos but what could we do we push it off to sunday but regarding learning we could be annoying not to learn the whole shabbos how have we sort of concluded so far when tish above comes out on shabbos do we view it that shabbos is tijuana we view it that sunday is tishabha we view it that sunday's tishbo shabbos is not tisha buff and therefore this year you're allowed to learn at least in the morning after khatsuys those who are knowing like therama don't learn you don't really have to be naughty like drama by the way the samsung has a very interesting svara why learning arab tishbo is us we don't say eating disaster we don't say drinking is us we don't say washing is why learning some surface says because whatever you learn the second part of the day you'll be thinking about at night so really you're allowed to learn up to the night the problem is if you're going to hear a shirt after khashoggi said you're going to be thinking about in the night and then you're going to be basimra you're going to be so happy you came down to this world even in the night time so that would be the reason for the minute ago the rama not to not to fast not to learn thank you thank you next case does a woman who is pregnant fast on tish above that comes out on shabbos and is pushed up to sunday does a pregnant woman fast normally does a pregnant woman fast on the four fast days besides tish above pregnant no one does not fast on the donald tanisim but on tisha pregnant woman does fast but what about a tishbo of nirkha or what about this raise your hand if you ever made a bris on tishabhav you made a breast onion kipper avi what rabbi abby webber was bristles onion kipper oh he's a holy boy like abraham avino his name is avraham because of that or tell him he got a lot of air time um my brother-in-law naftali's cousin had a baby the shabbos before yom kippur and the bris was no on the sunday before yom kip before tish above and the bris was tish above sunday that was does the father fast on tisha buff if you have a baby let's say someone had a baby boy this past sunday and they're making a brist on tisha buff sunday does the father fast does the sondik fast no what if somebody makes a brace on shiva super tamas does the father fast of course he doesn't but comes if comes out on shabbos and it's pushed off to sunday the father the sanduk they bathe and they eat you hear this it's an incentive to to become a model and if they want the best no you're not a fair it's the optive no no they want to know why why would they want to if they want it really they need they need therapy seriously why would they want to fast yeah okay just the actual suit no yeah that's done they're over they're finished why in a regular past it's yum they don't fast for what for the moment of the breast no well it's a the day is a yamtif but only after khasis now so watch this the pascans and if somebody makes a bris on tish above them and they eat comes a beer halacha if someone is a khaili kitsas they fast a little bit of a highlight someone has a headache on tisha buff you gotta you gotta persevere someone is a little bit of a haila [Music] what second i'm called second time covered sounds like my brother your brother nailed you okay whatever it is a cold okay a cult it's known as a cold on tisha says a pregnant woman they eat on tisha so if you watch the videos we just were at was at his kevar this past friday the shosyakov of reisha who wrote the e on yaka by the way the reason he wrote the enyakov is he was going he became blind and he couldn't see and he got a doctor to restore his vision and he said hashem you gave me back my anaym so he wrote the perosh says the following if someone makes a bris on shiva's do they fast yes but if someone's pregnant do they fast on shavasana tammuz no so we see that being pregnant is more compelling than making a bris then on tishbo where if someone makes a breath they don't fast after godzilla's certainly if someone's pregnant they don't fast that's what got it that if a bowel bris who fasts on tishaba but a pregnant woman does a bow bris fast on the shivasupatamos but a pregnant woman does not so on tisha above where a bowel bris does not fast certainly a pregnant woman does not fast so i once asked some shimo first one of the leading pisces but if the whole reason that a pregnant woman doesn't fast is that we learn it out from baobris who doesn't fast on tisha then maybe we should say that just like a bob brisk has to wait until after kha sois to eat then a pregnant woman should have to wait till after khatsu is to eat there are some person who say that that a pregnant woman should ask should wait until after kha'zois but he said no the bottom line is it's a full-fledged cabachaimer a pregnant woman is more compelling than a barbarous and if a pregnant woman does not have to fast at all on shivasa patamos then on tish above where even about bris doesn't have to pass the second half of the day certainly a pregnant woman would not have to fast at all now why doesn't because the prophet said you need to fast on shabasa so it's more more compelling than the sudah of the breasts to everyone in other words this is an exception we're not going to make an exception for shivasa batamas we'll only make an exception so it comes out tisha b'avnir is more lenient than a regular shavasana tamas okay now should we be making for a pregnant woman yes or no when tish above comes out on sunday on shabbos that we push up to sunday really based on what we've been saying we should not be lenient because when tishb comes out on shabbos it's not coming out on shabbos and being pushed up to sunday it's coming out on sunday so really we should be mahmeer for a pregnant woman based on what we're saying and we should be mahmoud for about bruce nevertheless regarding the baobris and the pregnant woman we say even though in lumdas it's like it's coming out on sunday but it's not as strict as if it came out on sunday because it fell out on sunday it's only coming out on sunday because it couldn't come out on shabbos so the bottom line is we've spoken about five different scenarios regarding tishb shakhali as bashabas regarding tashmeshamita we say we view it that tish above came out on sunday claudius rose minogue is to be at least for bane ashkenaz regarding the question of a bar mitzvah boy who becomes bar mitzvah on sunday we say it's like tishb came out on sunday and the bar mitzvah boy has to fast regarding is their schwa we say there is no schwa this year tish above came out on sunday this year did not come out on shabbos regarding learning this year on shabbos it's not tishba of shabbos tish about this sunday you can learn on shabbos after you have the rama and regarding other leniencies namely a pregnant woman or someone who's making a bris regarding this we say we are also lenient and they do not have to fast a pregnant woman does not fast as tish above however she should always ask her off don't say i heard on torahanytime.com the rabbi said you should know by now you cannot pass get any allahis from shurim you need to ask a directed question to a authorized halachic authority what should i do you can never pass from but again um it seems that talaka is that a pregnant does not fast this year tishb and if someone makes a bris they dive in and i hope they would ask me to be the sanduk so i wouldn't have to fast either but i do believe that rebel yashev one time he was very uh not well and he uh was not able to fast on tishwa but he took santa claus on in such a scenario but of course we know the opinion of rebbe is that under the circumstance where tishb comes out on shabbos rebbe wanted to push off tishbov completely and as we explained in the past because antiship is the birth of mashiach and rebbi who comes from the family of dublin malach was able to access the great principle of neulad ben zakhar nisrapa kalham so rebbi feels the redeeming quality of tish above and we should all be zaika to the great principle of rebbi that and we should be zoha to see the fruition of the prophecy of the navi zakariya swamharavi that's the time has want to invite everyone again to join us on 5 30 peninsula we have a lot of room bring your chairs you want to sit on the floor you want to sit on your comfort chairs that happen to be lower than a future that are fully loaded with you know the cushioning and the padding and the you know the that lever that you lift the feet up and whatever you need 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