When the Holy Ark Traveled

One of the themes of today's daf was a lot of nach. So, we're going to double down a little bit. Reb Me Simcha in a classic Ben Ben Oisel classic Meshech Chochmah in Parshas Re'eh on the pesukim that we're learning "Lo sasim kechol asher anachnu osim hayom" "ish ki lo yashev im ha'aretz He says "Actually echad mi lomdei lomad" A Londoner, one of the chevreh that I learned with, asked me a kasha. He brings this kasha and he says "V'zeh kushya tzumah" It's an absolutely incredibly difficult question to be able to answer. The kasha that this "echad mi lomdei lomad" asked Reb Me Simcha was from a pasuk in Nach. The pasuk is in Sefer Shoftim. It's right in the beginning. It's perek bais. It's pasuk aleph. So, just to set up the beginning of perek Shoftim. Yehoshua bin Nun had just passed away. The skainim had just passed away. And immediately after the ptirah of Yehoshua and the skainim everything started falling apart. All of a sudden, the whole spiritual stature of the Jews completely devolved. The pasuk says "Vayomer Malach Hashem min haGilgal el haBoichim" The Yidden at the time were in Boichim and a malach came from Gilgal and he arrives to the place Boichim. "Vayomer" And the malach said "Alisi eschem miMitzrayim" I took you out of Mitzrayim. "Va'ovi eschem el ha'aretz asher nishbati la'avoseichem" "V'omer lo ofer brisi eschem l'olam" I made all these promises and I delivered. "Va'atem" And I told you "Lo sichrus bris l'yoshvei ha'aretz hazos" I told you that when you get to come to the land, make sure you don't make peace with all the chevreh, the pagans that are living there. "Mizbechos sei'am titzon" destroy their mizbechos. "V'lo sh'matem b'koli" you didn't listen to me. "Mah zos asisem" What did you do? "V'gam amarti" and I told you also make sure that you're going to right you're going to make get all the people from all the nations to leave the land and you didn't listen to to that as well as the mall who's giving very very harsh rebuke to the Jews of they began to make noises and they began to cry very very loudly and then they called the place by him by his book who shall my son and they brought carbon nice today slammed in as from a symptom says I don't understand this they brought carbon and by him where were they eating at that time so for that we have to know what say the again it's helpful to know as we know but we try our best there's a say the that says that you should be known passed away 28 years after the year entered Israel now we know there was called today's stuff immediately afterwards the Mishka went to Shiloh right tomorrow did the math 369 years is no gaps here so it goes immediately from Gilgal to Shiloh that means the Mishka had been in Shiloh already for 14 years and with the Mishka was in Shiloh there was an today's it's the Mishka if that's the case one of the world is going on this is the castle that this year and said visit that you can tell me what you want to say but the bottom line is that this is the castle that was asked to me and it's a castle that it took place right after the story of Pilegesh Begiver, which is one of the darkest periods of Jewish history. Most Yeshiva light know it from Gittin Daf Vav, but really it's a very, very painful series of chapters here in Sefer Shoftim. At the very end of the story of Pilegesh Begiver, the Posik says The Yidden all went to Beis El. Vayivku and they cried. Vayeishu Sham Lifnei Hashem and they sat in front of Hakadosh Baruch Hu. Vayatzumu Bayom Hahu Ad Ha'Orev and they fasted until the evening. Vaya'alu Olos Ushlamim Lifnei Hashem. Reb Meir Simcha, they're bringing Olos Ushlamim. This is during the 369 years of Shiloh. What is going on over here? How's it possible that they brought Olos Ushlamim Lifnei Hashem during this Tkufa? Again, a Kushya Atzumah. Reb Meir Simcha says a Pshat. But I think in order to appreciate what Reb Meir Simcha says, we have to do what we do. We have to take a few steps backwards and we have to revisit something that we've been taking for granted for this last little Tkufa, these last several Dafin that we've been learning. So, one of the things that we take away from Perek Parah Adumah says that not all Tkufas of Mikdash and Mishkan were created equally. There were the 39 years in the Midbar and then there were the 14 years of Gilgal, the 369 years in Shiloh, the 57 years of Nov and Givon. This First Temple which was 410 years and the Second Temple was 420 years. There's many, many Chuluk. Specifically as it relates to Heter and Issur Bamos. The 39 years in the Midbar, there was an Issur Bamos. 14 years of Gilgal, there was a Heter Bamos. 369 years in Shiloh, Issur Bamos. 57 years of Nov and Givon, Heter Bamos. 410 years and 420 years of Beis Hamikdash, again there's an Issur Bamos. More specifically, during the 14 years of Gilgal and the 57 years of Nov Gibon, there was a heter bamos. Why? Why? So, it would seem that there was a chelek between the Shechina, there was a chelek between the cheftza of the Mishkan when it was in Gilgal and Nov Gibon versus all the other tekufos. And if the level of Shechina, the nussach of the Shechina is a little bit different, so it would perhaps beget a different set of laws as relates to can I bring a carbon outside or not bring a carbon outside. Now, on the Archi Chala and the Churbas Shul, again, in Shilo, we talked a lot about this inyan. And we spoke out from Shmuel Yankev and from the Gedolei Yisrael and the Sifrei Hakdoshim that work with a mahaloch that not all places of were the same in the sense that there was an idea where Hakadosh Baruchu would sometimes temporarily reside his Shechina. And then there was the Makom Asher Yivchar, the chosen place. We said over from the Alshich, that what's the chelek? That the Makom Asher Yivchar is the bayis of Hakadosh Baruchu as opposed to there were different tekufos where Hakadosh Baruchu didn't have a house. Hakadosh Baruchu is in galus, so to speak, right? Shechinta Begalusa. But at the same time, Hakadosh Baruchu is willing to come and stay as a guest in our house. When the Mishkan was big at their Makom Asher Yivchar, that was mechayev the issur bamos. When there was a Mishkan, but it wasn't in the Makom Asher Yivchar, where Hakadosh Baruchu was just taking a room in our house, so to speak, then there's no issur bamos. Ki like Bossem at Atah Al Menucha V'Al Nachala, the taich is Menucha Ze Shilo and Nachala Ze Yerushalayim, that those are the two places that are the Makom Asher Yivchar. All the sifrei that the Brisker Rav quotes in that shtikel in Parshas Shemini that we spoke about in the previous daf. When the Mishkan was Makom Asher Yivchar, it means Hakadosh Baruchu has his bayis, you can't bring korbanos outside of his bayis. But even if there's a Mishkan, as long as as long as it's not the then there's going to be a a and again this is the that we've been going through literally since we were in Israel. But, the truth is there's another there's another there's in this forum that's rooted in Chazal. It's rooted in the right here in the end of Zevachim. And this is also in Shulchan Aruch in the first paragraph of Megillah. I'm going to read it from the Shulchan Aruch. The shame of Yassa in the name of Zevachim. If you want to know when does a Zevachim and when does a Zevachim this is the because the Zevachim whenever the was in the Mishkan or in the Mikdash the Zevachim is the Zevachim Yassa if the Zevachim leave the Mishkan or the Mikdash the Zevachim at that point the Zevachim are going to be so whenever the was the Zevachim Yassa when the left at that point the Zevachim are going to be the of Zevachim and Zevachim like the Shulchan Aruch is in where the is. When the was there was a Zevachim when the was there was a a Zevachim. Just to read of the in the first paragraph of Megillah. The says like this it's a paragraph it's the of the Zevachim. We know already from the Zevachim to actually Mishkan Zevachim that before the Mishkan was built there was a Zevachim but once the Mishkan was built at that point there was a Zevachim. Why? Because the Zevachim because in the Mishkan there was a but not just a there was a and the was they they went to Gilgal. Kohlshebashikol Shebashekol Shebashekol. During the seven years of Kohlshe and the seven years of Kohlshe all 14 years for your Arin Imam Muhammad and the Arin was traveling together with the Yidden fighting wars for your Arin Imam the Gilgal and it wasn't together with the Misbach in Gilgal which Arin was. There was Arin Arin was. When they went to Shiloh after Kohlshe Arin was. The Arin Kohlshe Imam Misbach. The Arin was Kohlshe again together with the Misbach. Arin and they went to Arin which Arin Kohlshe Arin. Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin. Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin Arin. 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But of course, that's where he's coming from. He didn't make this up. It's the Meforshei Yerushalmi. The Yerushalmi says, "What was the Koveya?" I would take this one step further. I would say, "That as much as the Mishnah says, as Chazal say, that the 369 years that the Yidden were in Shiloh, there was an Issur Bamos in Yerushalayim. That's only called Kamo the Aron was physically in Shiloh. But the minute the Aron left If the Aron wasn't there, then it's Chodrei Dinos, like Gorer from Gilgal and Noiv and Giv'on. And if that's the case, why did it's going to be Hutra Bamos? That says, "If the reason there's an Issur Bamos when the Yidden were in Shiloh is because it's the Makom Asher Yivchar, it's all the Sefrei M'Aron Agruz. If that's the Nekudah, cuz that's Menuchah and that's Nachalah, as opposed to Gilgal and Noiv and Giv'on, it's just Well, then as long as the Mishkan is in Shiloh, you will Bossom Al Hamenuchah. Who cares where the Aron is? But if the whole Cheftzah of the Heter of an Issur Bamos is Talui in where was the Aron? Siman Zeh It sounds to me, it's not even Talui in Shiloh. It's really Talui in It's Talui in physically where's the Aron? Now, Chazal are telling to us that the 14 years of Gilgal, the Aron was always Mibachutz. And the 57 years of Noiv and Giv'on, the Aron was always Mibachutz. In Shiloh, that wasn't the case. Above all, I could find you at Kuf and Shiloh. With the odor wasn't me before him, at that point, it's very tough and says that it would be a head of moments. If that's the case, let's remember let me teach you a little bit of knock. So, this story in the beginning of Shiloh, the Malach comes and you didn't have any of them start crying. But you could say my mom came and who is London asked me says, "What's going on over here?" This is already 14 years into Shiloh. And if this is 14 years into Shiloh that means that the Mishkan is in Shiloh. If the Mishkan is in Shiloh, there's a there's an issue of moments. So, if you look at Rashi and the Radak right there in Shifton it's before this story took place immediately after the period of Yeshua and the period of this game. Now Yeshua, okay. The period of this game and I don't know when maybe they died 50 years later. They didn't because they say some call you may Yeshua may have scanned them. I should have read Yoman after Yeshua and it's the Shabbos that the says Yoman who that means the skin and died circle the same exact time when Yeshua had been known left this world. Says if you go back to the end of the very last chapter period of doubt. The person says if you are sure it's called Shifty is all you should have been able to call the unit about them to scan. And then he starts giving them a message. Some of this is pretty famous. Call him but even I know you should have been able to have drawn the picture. But you have to make a hearing. I can ask a problem right sounds familiar. This is the mask of that we say by the message of and it's possible that the message is very beautiful makes you want to learn nach, right? Wink wink. But the bottom line is, so Yeshua bin Nun goes on and he recounts the history of the Yidden through the years in the midbar, just the whole story of the Jewish people. And then ultimately he makes a pact with the Yidden, he's coreis bris. So just like we were coreis bris by Sinai, and there was a bris by Arvos Moav, and Ezra years later would be coreis bris. Yeshua bin Nun goes and he makes his own bris, and it's one of the most beautiful prakim in all of Tanach. What's going on over here? And then the possuk says as follows, After Yeshua bin Nun was coreis bris, Vayichtov Yehoshua es divrei ha'eileh b'sefer Toras Elokim. He wrote everything b'sefer Toras Elokim. Vayikach even gedolah, and then he took a very large stone. Vayakim sham es ha'even, and he put it up there. Tachas ha'alah, it was underneath the tree. Rashi in Sefer Yehoshua says this is the Vayikim sham es ha'even tachas ha'alah of Parshas Vayishlach, asher b'mikdash Hashem. And it was in the mikdash of Hashem. And this was in Shechem. So he writes down the whole bris, and he puts it underneath the alah asher b'mikdash Hashem. So what does that even mean? Zocher Rashi, you know what it means. There's only one thing it can mean. K'fi she'eivi'u sham es ha'aron, they brought the aron over there. K'mo she'ne'emar l'ma'alah, Vayikach Yehoshua es ha'aron b'soch ha'aron ha'bris. So if it refers to this area of Shechem of being tachas ha'alah asher b'mikdash Hashem, it means that the aron must have been there. Says Rashi, it has to be, there's no other pshat. You see that the aron right at the time that Yeshua bin Nun passed away. Wait, because there's mamish three psukim later, Vayamos Yehoshua bin Nun eved Hashem. You see that circle, ptirah of Yeshua bin Nun. Ha'gam it was 14 years into Mishkan Shiloh, but the aron wasn't in Shiloh. You want to know where it was? It was in Shechem. And if you're talking, it stayed there for a little bit. Aba Zocher Mayasimcha, it's poshut that's what's going on over here. Being that the aron was in Shechem, so that was as much as the bonus afilu in the middle of Shiloh. Is Vayikchu sham es ha'aron u'vo'im b'Yisrael u'v'Yehudah l'shem kodesh because they were the talking always about this. So it is simple. So it is simple. That it's partial. This is the terrace of Islam and Scotia. And if that's the case, let's go back now to the story of Palegus Begiva. Listen to how Simcha prefaces this. So if you're not sure that what I'm telling you is MS, come now. Boyure, come take a look at a double side. He said because that you catch me with the but this is going to be checkmate. Again, Palegus Begiva by you by years by some of by ready for the next by you shall Israel by Sham. And then the year then started asking from Baruchu. Who they asking? Where's Baruchu? The Sham. Because at that cool for you I don't know where the order was. The order wasn't base out. So it's partial. Being that what the of Israel and is is where the order is. So don't stay that where was the order? The order was in base out. It was in base out. That's why they bought that's where and there it's partial. Boyure double side. That's the next partial. The order was telling you the order was there. Being that it was there, that's the reason there's no order anymore. The mission is technically in Shilo and during Shilo it's However, it's supposed to be in it's partial. Simcha that's the that's going on over here in period base. Either way like we say this is a classic show classic master and it also it opens up a whole new window in terms of understanding these different we have two to understand why Gilgal given with different than all the other of one is it's totally the other based on Simcha feels he has fired the highest But the bottom line is that it could be it's totally in the Arid with enough community if it's totally in Macha Macha Yifcha. So once the Mishkan is in Shilo, then there's no answer, there's no way out. And then the Islam then has a bomber kasha. And how you going to make sense of Palegish Begiver? These are very very severe kashas. If however it's totally in Arid, then there's Macha Macha to say that Simcha's extra chiddush. And that is that even when the Mishkan wasn't Shilo, did it exist that the Arid wasn't there would still be mutar. One other revach that you get from this Rebbe Simcha is, and this is something we didn't address yet, and that is when the Yidden when the Midbar was for sure in the Shilo Bamos. And the question is why? The question is why? Because if the Koveya is Kilo Bosa Mad Ato, Elo Menucha VeNachala, the Midbar wasn't Menucha VeNachala either. So why was there an Issur Bamos in the Midbar? This is something that when you learn the Sugya of Bamos, you have to address. But wait, this Yerushalmi and this Tosefta and Rebbe Simcha's great Ra'aya is it's poshut because the Koveya was never Menucha VeNachala per se. The Koveya was always where where is the Arid? And the Yidden had the Arid when they were in the Midbar. It's poshut that would be Mechayev, that would be get with it an Issur Bamos either way. Classic Macha Macha and we're going to stop here.