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What the Silicon Valley Bank Collapse Means for Average Businessman, Real Estate Owner and Consumer
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What the Silicon Valley Bank Collapse Means for the Average Businessman, Real Estate Owner and Consumer | By Ira Zlotowitz for The Lakewood Scoop
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photo I was asked by the Lakewood Scoop
to explain what happened at Silicon
Valley Bank
what are the ramifications what led up
to it and what this could mean for me
and you
so I want to give one disclaimer I'm not
a financial financial advisor I'm just a
simple person that's reading the news
just like you are no inside information
and please don't take any advice
from this
um video to make decisions on it's just
more education and then do your own
research before you make any decision
and consult with the Financial and
Professional people that are in your
field to give you the advice
so what's important to understand how
the bank went under is how does a bank
make money what does a bank do in the
simplest of forms a bank borrows money
from us the public collectively we could
put a hundred million dollars into a
bank now the bank has that money and
they're paying let's say two percent
they have to now recover that two
million dollars they're paying out so
what they do is they lend that money out
to other people in the simplest form
they don't have to lend it just to real
estate they claim it on cars they can
limit on homes they can run into real
estate they could lend it to businesses
they could do all different types of
things with that money every Bank
decides what they want to do with their
money and the whole goal of the bank is
to make sure that they have enough money
um enough profit coming in from the
loans that they're collecting that
they're making out to cover their
overhead and the deposits from all of
our money cumulatively there's certain
regulations put in place to make sure
the banks don't do crazy loans that's
why when you want to borrow money on
your house or on a business or on a car
or on something there's a loan to value
the different types of things there's a
higher lower loan to value there's
different that service coverage ratios
the different protective measures that a
bank makes sure that are put in place to
make sure everything is fine typically
they care for two things the first thing
they care for is to make sure that the
value is going to maintain there so that
if God forbid that asset that they lent
against had to be sold it could cover
and number two there shouldn't be any
stress there shouldn't be any issue
during the life of the loan there's men
of cash flow coming in on a monthly
basis to go to make that loan
that 100 million dollars using that same
example and in the case of Silicon
Valley Times that to bring up 200
billion about the number of the Hat of
deposits they don't keep in the bank
they have to put it out to good use the
government requires them to keep a
certain amount of that money in cash in
the bank that they can't lend out so
they're paying interest to us depositors
but they can't lend it out they also
have to have a certain percent in liquid
assets which means they could invest in
things that at any minute they could go
ahead and sell it for cash treasury bill
is a good example for that other things
that the bank that the government will
make them do is also the government can
give them the Lawns that they could get
borrow money from the Feds all of these
things together is how Bank operates in
the simplistic form as Warren Buffett's
I think it's Warren Buffett who said you
don't lose money until you actually sell
meaning if I buy a stock today and the
stock is trading at ten dollars and then
next year goes down to nine but I don't
sell until it's 11. I never lost money
while I was at nine on paper I could
have maybe lost money while I was at
nine but then I actually lose money in
the process my actually down no it's
what you buy versus what you sell the
interim could just be a paper loss every
once in a while though a person has to
do what's called Mark to Market
because when you walk into a bank and
you want to borrow money as a mortgage
broker I work and I talk on behalf of a
client I tell a bank the building is
good but you chose to trust this client
you know how rich this client is this
client is worth a hundred million
dollars so just in case this building
has an issue don't worry this person is
strong enough to cover but what would
happen if that person had all their
money God forbid in a stock like Silicon
Valley that person is not worth zero so
that's obviously because it's sold to
close down but what happened along the
way which is the issue that happened
right now with Silicon Valley one of the
big issues with banks happened right now
what happened Silicon Valley happening
to many banks right now is on paper they
have to mark to Market some of their
losses potentially real estate owners
I'll get to that in a minute have a
similar type of an issue so let's go
with it means to Mark to Market
the 10-year treasuries which were were
paying out a yield of about two percent
two percent so that means if you if you
if you gave if the government if the
bank took the whole hundred million
dollars that we gave the bank and they
would buy treasuries they'd be getting
two percent from the treasures and pay
us two percent they'll be break even not
making money there's probably expenses
there but what would happen now what
happened now that the 10-year treasury
went up at one point to four percent
if if the if the if the bank had to go
tomorrow morning and liquidate sell all
the treasuries they're not gonna have to
sell it for 100 million dollars because
someone's gonna say if I borrow it to me
for 100 million
still it's and I want to get four
percent of my money it's not going to
give me that it's only giving away two
million dollars that all these all these
all these um all these Securities all
these all these bonds it's not giving me
it's not gonna be it's only give me two
percent I'm gonna get four percent so in
order for them to sell it they have to
sell it now for 50 million dollars go to
someone say hey pay me 50 million
dollars and then four percent of 50
million dollars is 2 million and it
works out perfectly
so if the government bar when someone
when a bank lends money to the
government and the bank
bar in effect when you're borrowing
treasuries you in fact lending money to
the government if you stay till the end
of the 10 years and you believe the
government's gonna pay you back you're
gonna get back to 400 million but if you
need money today the value that treasury
today is cut in half now it's somewhere
not exactly half because it's still a
value you could hold it out till the end
of the term but simple math that's the
issue so what's been happening all along
it's going back to the beginning what I
said before is that there's a hundred
million dollars worth of deposits the
gov the bank did different things with
it what they believed was regular
Securities it liquid Securities they
could sell right away they went out to
the market they had having a bank they
started having issues normal issues in a
market what was their issue because what
does Silicon Valley Bank do Silicon
Valley is Venture Capital almost every
Venture Capital firm would want to be
involved at some level that's what the
Bank of Choice that was the main Bank of
Choice so take example G currency G
apparently got Venture Capital Money if
I wanted to go ahead and borrow money
against my shares and I walk into a
regular local bank they're not they're
not thinking to lend me money against my
shares but if I went to Silicon Valley
Bank because they have a bunch of VCS
are with them they would say oh G
currency is worth this amount
how much it's worth so Irish shares in
this company is worth X dollars the loan
to value is not going to be 75 but
there's a number that they're going to
lend and they they're comfortable
because they turn to their network of
venture capitals and say if God forbid
Ira couldn't repay the loan would you
buy Ira's position and then cover that
loan that's how they made their money
the rates will when they lent that money
they they lent it out to to founders of
of venture capital firms and they Bank
Venture Capital firms it was in real
estate but that was a big part how many
VC deals were going down in the last few
months not that many so then normal
business was slowing their regular
business was slowing so for them just to
operate sometimes they have to go ahead
and sell this is the simplistic form not
going exactly I'm sure there's other
pieces here mismanagement and other
points but they have to go out there in
the simplistic form they have to go out
there and borrow and sell some of the
liquid assets they thought they were
going to sell 10 billion dollars worth
of liquid assets and get 10 billion
dollars to keep money in the bank to run
their regular operations they went out
to the market and let's say they've only
got 9 billion for it because rates went
up and people didn't want to buy out
those assets right away so it came to
them is that now they're short a billion
dollars they realize oh they're going to
be in trouble if they had to now Mark to
Mark and adjust everything they don't
have enough money to cover all the
deposits and run the bank so they have
to go out there this could be normal
course they have to go out there and
sell a piece of the business let me go
take it now to a different example to
pause this you understand somebody has a
regular business they're running the
business cost them 200 000 a month to
run they have five a million dollars in
the bank they're good for five months
if they don't get any money at the end
of the five months any profits they're
closing down
if someone if they're about to close
them but someone thinks hey a big skate
open they're going to one day think
about Amazon how many years did Amazon
lose money and they kept covering the
losses and then look what Amazon is
today if someone believes in that
business they'll go to the family and
say listen here you need another million
dollars to carry for an additional five
months that's when you start becoming
profitable we'll give it to you but we
want a certain percent of the business
there's no there's no business that
happens during the day however if people
think that this business will never
become profitable and someone chirps
into the investors here hey why are you
investing in that business it's never
going to become profitable and that
investor either pulls back totally well
says I want a bigger and bigger percent
in order to sell in order to invest in
your business to a certain extent when
there's fear fear is what happens what
came together with Silicon Valley Bank
had an issues when they actually started
saying losses and actually started to go
out to go out and raise money and they
couldn't secure the money as fast as
they want to go raise the money then
people got nervous uh oh I have money in
the bank silicon bank that's how I run
my operations and the FDIC only shows
250 then you had one major VC sent an
email out to all the companies he
invested and say hey this bank has
issues pull your money out and like why
keep it there it's like you're making
enough money to keep there go to another
bank so pull out the money what's called
a run on the bank 40 billion dollars is
running the bank the bank doesn't have
that money so The Regulators have to
close down the bank does it mean that
everyone's losing their money it just
means that insurance is not covering it
but there's real ramifications happening
as we sit at tonight I'm recording this
video on Saturday night what's going to
happen by Monday morning is anyone's bet
but there's all different theories going
on so the fact of the matter is why did
this bank close down this Bank closed
down because it was a run on the bank
I'm on I'm on a chat that has a thousand
real estate players on the chat and they
start talking about a different bank and
I was just watching I don't know what's
gonna happen come Monday morning but I
was just watching out so many people
just because of fear it's a land of just
fear it's a blend of
why take a risk even if I'm not nervous
to a blend of I actually actually
nervous about that bank and they can
start doing a run on the different bank
that could be really happy and fine so
this Domino fear fear of fear itself
could keep running this issue and could
cause major damage going forward the
best case scenario now
is that the feds go and they get someone
to buy this bank over the weekend come
Monday morning a new bank bought it and
in effect they're telling that new bank
to buy it will sell it to you on
condition that you make every depositor
whole
and you'll get all the benefits that the
bank has branches that is everything
you'll buy it in effect Pennies on the
dollar just a few days ago or a few
weeks ago this bank was trading at 300 a
share so in theory if they could bond
his bank tomorrow for fifty dollars a
share
that they just have to cover the losses
after our losses is probably a lot less
than the 300 a share and they buy
themselves a great Bank to go forward
the the consensus in the market is
that's what's going to stop happening
now is that someone's going to buy it
that's the hopeful consent it's going to
buy it take it over and no one's going
to see a loss to be an isolated issue be
a wake-up call to the industry but it'll
be a nice little isolated issue however
this is where clearly they think the
ramifications and the flow is going to
be to the to the average person that's
me and you is that if tomorrow morning
give money in the bank if you have less
than 250 000 it's not an issue someone a
business or a person has more than 250
000 a kept in the bank we can keep it
now it's time tomorrow like why do you
want to deal with this that's your safe
hard earned money that you are saving
for whatever you're saving up for what
do you want to do with that money so
you're going to keep in a local bank
that you don't really understand if
they're making smart decisions or not
maybe they both treasures at the wrong
time even though it's fine if they would
stay at the end of the term but what's
happening right now why take the risk so
the belief is that most people want to
take the safe bet by Treasures
so in the very short term term because
everyone's going to buy treasuries which
would happen Thursday Friday the the
10-year treasury bill went down the rate
that you that the coupon that they pay
went down because so many people wanted
it they didn't have to promise how much
in effect to keep it simple is that
there's there's a treasury like I said
before is that 100 million throwing off
two two percent or four percent because
so many people want to buy that 100
million now because they think the US
are safe they're willing to say I don't
need four percent anymore I'm going to
take three and a half percent or three
percent of 2.8 or 2.6 I can keep
bringing it down potentially but they
think this is just during the fear while
everyone's in running in fear when this
rolls over and we wake up you know in a
couple of weeks and everything settles
down that will find this new level we'll
go to so relevant what the feds do now
it's about me and you my public opinion
what we think is going to happen and
right now what would you do if you had a
million dollars in the bank so some
people write about the spread it to a
few Banks some people say but even if I
would why would I want to take a chance
on a Regional Bank a Regional Bank is a
bank that has branches and runs in
several States why would I want to take
a chance on a local bank State Chartered
Bank let me put it to the top view the
government can't let the belief is Chase
or Wells Fargo closed now over the
weekend Wells Fargo couldn't handle the
influx and trying to help people on
board them the regional Banks having
people take out money so now think about
if you own a Regional Bank you're a
banker at a Regional Bank
you want to secure your job you want to
secure your bank your bank is healthy
you you made smart loans because some
you you viewed some other bank that's
stupid things that you should take the
loss but the truth is if when people are
nervous they don't want to listen to
details they just take the money first
and ask questions later so what are they
going to have to do to keep your money
in the bank they're gonna have to pay a
higher interest rate they're going to
say hey you want to go to Chase that's
let's say paying I don't know what
they're paying but let's say they're
paying two percent
stay with us we'll pay four percent we
could afford it because we have good
balance sheet we will do loans but what
does that mean in order for them to
recover be able to pay you four percent
they're gonna have to start lending at
six percent which includes interest
rates to move up even more so irrelevant
with it where the feds move their rates
the Practical math of where banks are at
and their cost of capital to get people
to put deposits they can have to entice
people to keep money by the bank this
issue they think now is going to cause a
big part of mergers to happen
because all these Banks can survive with
the higher cost are there enough loans
to put out loans at those higher rates
that's where these issues become
this is now going to be really the
wake-up call where people now begin to
understand the concept of Mark to Market
and what that's really going to become
is when it comes into commercial real
estate so it plays out of commercial
real estate is as follows when I came in
this into this business in 1997 real
estate was still based primarily on
what's called bricks and mortar which
meant you made a decision and someone
was discussing a building oh there's a
great building the boil at this the the
the bricks are strong the sound the
foundation the the way the structure of
the building is built this is a solid
building and therefore has a little bit
of a premium because of that today the
only thing
that the world went to is about
financial engineering when you see
someone talk about investment they talk
about the return the cash and cash the
irr the cap rates numbers and financial
engineering that will rinse ago where
rents are coming how inflation's playing
around no one's really talking about the
replacement cost is it in there yeah but
it's not the key part of the investment
so now let's talk about a cap rate take
a building for 10 million dollar
building just a couple of years ago that
building
would trade at a five cap let's say that
means that someone that building if it
had 500 if a building had 500 000 in net
operating income net cash flow a
personal paid 10 million dollars for
that building it's a five cap everything
was perfect
now that if the cap rates go to six
percent well some people think that real
cap rates today based on interest rates
like in my personal belief that I was
training this business from the
beginning of time till now is that the
Val the cap rate is supposed to be two
percent above the borrowing rate so
people think rates now a little bit high
but they're going to level out that's
the belief again this this movie changed
over the weekend but that meant that
people felt that the 10-year treasury
bill because of inflation is up the
tenure table now was close to four it
dipped to 369 is 370 as we speak right
now but the thing when it stabilized it
might go down to three when it goes down
to three that means that borrowing
should be at five or cap rate should be
at seven a stabilized deal should be at
seven
but no one's selling buildings at seven
so if you speak to people today they're
looking at the market saying what is
trading right now on the street deals of
Trading still let us six and a quarter
cap because it's still some upside but
now let's go back to that building what
if you believe again this is not my
belief it has to go with your belief you
as an investor you as an owner if you
believe that real estate right now has
to be a seven cap minimum that means
that that same exact building that was
worth 10 million dollars at a five cap
is now worth approximately 7 million
because seven percent of seven million
is four hundred is four hundred ninety
thousand roughly that same 500 000. you
want to say some uptights you pay a
little bit more that means that many
real estate deals today
are underwater or flat doesn't mean the
person's in trouble no because the
building is still cash flow but if you
have to refinance you have to have an
issue you have to come up with cash for
another reason you have to sell
you have an issue so it's starting but
it's going to put a magnifying glass now
in the industry is everyone's going to
really start doing Mark to Market to see
what if someone owns real estate really
worth
is the person's net net really down 75
percent
deals were bought that building a 10
million building that building could
have been bought to 9 million that
building could have a lower mortgage
that building could have spiked up to be
worth 11 12 million now it's down to 10.
who says know what the numbers are but
clearly if the cap rates move up now go
back to the beginning of this middle of
the story I've seen before if the banks
have to stop paying depositors four
percent and five percent they have to
lend it seven in order to buy a building
make a return you have to get a higher
percent return
so that's where the the the the the
reality comes in so the reason why
there's not a lot of transactions taking
place right now is because why should
there be transactions taking place but
if you want to see what is the
building's really worth under the hood
that becomes a whole new Dynamic about
ungrammifications what's going to happen
there so I have a major investor who's
telling me and sparked this thought told
me several months ago is that most the
reason why many many people now are that
have cash are going to stop making
Investments is because most of the risks
that involved in the past are really
gone when you looked came to someone a
few years ago they said what what
happens when rates go up and you can
speculate will they go up you can have
what happens if a b and c when someone's
buying a real estate deal today they're
buying it already post-inflation the
buying it where they understand what
rents are they're buying it at a cap
rate that starts making
in their mind more normal sense and such
reconciling
so I want to really end with two points
to put into perspective you talk about
mismanagement some people look at the
same mismanagement of certain people
that took floating rate first Victory
right someone who believed that interest
rates are on its way down
it's best take a floating rate deal pay
a high rate today but every day's rates
go down some people that believe rates
are moving up they should go ahead and
take a fixed rate because rates are
moving up lock it in as long as you can
at this current rate so there are people
who are forced to take deals at floating
rates and other people took a choice
and that if you look back in hindsight
everything is always hindsight 2020 but
if you look at the market today that's
that same issue is that we're going into
a world today those people that have
floating rates that are coming due now
those people are going to have to deal
with issues and where they're going to
come out of those issues and that's
where the big Market is focusing on so
if you're going into the marketplace
today and you're looking around how it's
affecting the typical business the
typical business is running as business
as usual
a business that needs a real estate
company that needs to borrow money or
raise money in a big world today that's
where the question started coming and
also based on the world going forward
we're we're the winners we're the loser
is going to be one thing which I keep
keep going to a sentiment of one
you know one positive line is that for
many years
I would ask questions other people ask
questions and the answer was this is
just the way it is to just the way it is
and be gone that's all gone now from
this point going forward it's going to
stop everything's gonna stop making
sense that it's going to point going
forward it's going to stop logically
making sense every decision and business
move that people are going to make you
can understand oh it makes sense this
building is trading for more because it
has a lot of upside and this building is
trading for Less because it's really not
as nice as the other building this
building's a lot of work so I'm not
going to just say oh just this is what
people pay so irrelevant to those issues
this Bank falling apart at this level
the second largest bank crash is going
to bring it all together for everyone to
start seeing a world a little
differently so I hope this was the
clarity a lot of different moving parts
now at least you can start reading the
papers and plug in and the discrepancies
from here I'll be sharing this video of
the next day onto LinkedIn and we're
there we could engage in a dialogue
between myself you and the whole
LinkedIn Network that could really share
and give their insights there stay
positive God runs the world and he can
make the decisions work in spite of
everything around you to work perfect
for you best of luck in everything you
do