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What Makes a Fish Kosher? - Keeping it Kosher Clips
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The newest episode of the Keeping it Kosher podcast, Reel Talk, is out now! Our host Rabbi Ezra Sarna is joined by Rabbi Chaim Goldberg, OU Kosher Rabbinic Coordinator and resident fish expert, for a fascinating deep dive into the world of kosher fish. From identifying kosher species to understanding what goes into the supervision of a fish processing plant, this episode explores what it takes to ensure the fish on your plate meets kosher standards.
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What is the main halacha about fish, in
terms of buying fish and eating fish?
Okay, so when I'm giving my presentation, one of
the things, especially when I'm speaking to kids,
I like to ask, "how many people have a short
attention span?" And a lot of kids will raise
their hand, and then I'll ask, "How many people
already forgot the question?" And then a bunch of
other kids will raise their hand. So, okay, for
those of you with a super-short attention span,
here's the takeaway that I really need you to
come home with. The definition of a kosher fish,
practically, when you're trying to figure out
if a fish is kosher, you're looking to check if
the fish has scales that can be removed from the
fish without ripping the skin. That's the Ramban's
definition of a kaskeses (scales), the Rama brings
it down l'halacha. That's the ikkur that we're
focused on. The Gemara in Chulin says,
The Gemara in Chullin says, "כל שיש לו
קשקשת – יש לו סנפיר". Anything which
has kaskeses, a scale, as I defined it,
will have snapir (fins). So we don't
have to check for snapir practically.
Which means fins. You don't
have to check for fins.
We don't need to check for the fins. What we
do need to check is to make sure that it has
scales that can be removed without ripping
the skin. And there are conditions for that.
And there are things you have to think about.
And what if the scales fall out? What if the
scales were scraped off and I didn't see them
before they were scraped off? And other ways
that we can manage all of those things, but
that is the most important thing. And that,
when you're buying fish, other than salmonid
fish, you have to make sure that it's a dag
tahor (kosher fish) before they take the skin
off. You cannot rely on buying fish based on
the name alone. There's no list that's going
to help you. There's no guy behind the counter
that assures you that all the Jews buy this
or that fish. None of that's going to work.
You have to make sure you're dealing with a
dag tahor before anything else can happen.
So, in other words, that's just practical advice,
or there's a gezeira d’Rabbanan that
you cannot buy fish without skin?
Yeah. So if the fish has no skin, that puts
it back into the category of kirvei dagim,
which Chazal talk about, is the guts of the fish.
Until, I'm going to guess somewhere around the
1970s or 80s, when refrigeration technology got
improved and we started sending fish fillets,
meaning skinless fish fillets outside of
regional areas, it wasn't really a thing
except for fish guts, which were preserved and
treated and other things. That would have been the
only fish product you would have seen where you
couldn't identify it by looking at the skin. So,
Chazal definitely forbade anything that was
not identifiable. And we understand that to
mean that includes fish by looking
at the meat and not seeing the skin,
it would still be in that category.
And how much skin you have to see,
we could discuss that as well. But the bottom line
is you have to be able to recognize the fish based
on the skin. Other than the exceptions to the
rule, like we mentioned earlier about salmon.