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What is the Halachic Date Line? - Keeping it Kosher Clips
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Is it true that Shabbat in Hawaii and Japan is not on Saturday? Rabbi Donneal Epstein explains the concept of the Halachic Date Line and how that might affect traveling over weekends. The newest episode of the Keeping it Kosher podcast, Navigating Travel, is out now! Host Rabbi Ezra Sarna is joined by Rabbi Donneal Epstein, OU Kosher Rabbinic Coordinator, to discuss practical halachos for kosher travel, covering everything from hotel coffee machines and rental home kitchens to highway rest stops and more. 🎧Listen now at keepingitkosher.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I had this, somebody called me. They booked
tickets for themselves and their whole
family. They found, based on some dance deal
thing, $17 tickets to Hawaii. They're like,
"We're going to Hawaii." And then it's the day
before and they called me up and they said,
"I just found out that there's some date
line question about Hawaii. Does that
mean I can't go with my whole family?"
What would you say to such a question?
When are you leaving and when are you coming?
You know, if it's a Monday through Thursday trip,
it's okay. Let's try to minimize the question.
If you had to be there over Shabbat itself,
I really wouldn't want to be in that situation.
There is a question as to where the halachic date
line is. There was an international convention
about where to put the international date line.
We know where that is, but that doesn't have any
real bearing on halacha. And there's machloket
between the Chazon Ish and Rav Tukachinsky from
Jerusalem. This machloket happened in the early
1940s when the European refugees ended up
in Japan on their way to China. But what
day was Yom Kippur, what day was Shabbat? So the
Chazon Ish opined, based on his understanding of
Rishonim in the Gemara, that the date line was
actually just west of Japan and Shabbat should
be observed in Japan on Sunday. It was a novelty
to a lot of people. I mean it was kind of a new
she'eilah because it wasn't really nogeia people
until then. And Rav Tukachinsky put the date
line much further east. And according to him, the
date line runs like right through Alaska and just
right outside Hawaii, which would
make Hawaii Shabbat on a Friday.
Wow!
So since it's a doubt as to when Shabbat would
be, if you can avoid it, I recommend avoiding
it. I actually was asked this question maybe
25 years ago. There were a bunch of people who
wanted to book a kosher cruise, and they asked me
what should they do? You know, it's going to go
on Shabbat. So I didn't want to tell them not
to. So I went to Rabbi Hershel Schachter, and
he told me straight out that he would
not recommend doing it for this reason.
I was speaking to Rabbi Stareshefsky, who's one
of the RC's here, and I think it was the only time
I ever saw him not smiling. And I said, "What's
going on?" So, he said, "I am going to a place in
northern Denmark," I think it was, and because
of the time of the year, there was no sunset,
I believe. Do poskim recommend not going to
those places also because of z'manim issues?
Yes, actually Rav Yaakov Emden talks about this.
This she'eilah was brought to him about going to
Scandinavia in the summer months. You know, what
do you do about Shabbat? And there's no sunrise,
no sunset. So there are a lot of different
aitzahs given by the poskim. But to be frank,
none of them really make you too
comfortable. And Rav Yaakov Emden
actually suggests to avoid going to
these places because of this reason.
Wow.