What Is Considered a Mistake in a Sefer Torah? Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 143 Seif 4

Okay, good morning friends. How's everybody doing? We're continuing in Simmon Kuf Gimmel. We're in the Rama in Sif Daled. The Rama's opinion was that if you already read and you could stop there, you stop there and you make a bra. Mean the Ra's opinion is that if you've already been you can make a but you can't read further in the plea. We were reading in the end of the Mishna Bua yesterday that if they the minis if you already read the whole para and you didn't say kadesh then you don't take out another safer and you rely on that the is if you said kadesh we explained yesterday that after kadesh you have a to read sukim otherwise it's a biz for the haftyra however if you found a mistake in the middle of so the opinion let's read again from the b two lines from the bottom on if you found the mistake in middle of ling who by the way we learned yesterday paskins not like the not like the but rather like the like the you finish to the end of the the after and then it counts from after that the is the could be the after you could even make a after it after. However, many argue on this. the sovereign they hold the shims the shims they say the many argue on this and they hold there's no between a mistake that's found in and a mistake that's found in the other if you didn't yet read You have to complete the safer. You stop right where where you are and your and you read for someone else from the place that you stopped. You should accustom yourself this way. Unless in your place the mistake is found after you already called up seven and you read seven. So in other words, you called up seven people. You already read the last aliyah. You already called up the last person. But you didn't finish the par. Then everybody says you have to take out another sra because you have to finish the whole you read with the second and you could even be alias. If let's say you've already finished the para and you found a mistake during the finish reading the para again you've already finished reading the para but now you found the mistake in the after you don't make a after it you do not make a braha because you don't make a braha reading further in Apostle, but you're not going to take out a new one for the Mafter. But if it's the mafter of Yumpt where that's an absolute of the of Shabas is not a because you've already read the whole para but the or the you need to take out another the same as if the mistake was in the middle of the regular par of the week. Okay. Rama said that if you found a mistake in the safer and you could stop there, you stop there, you make a and your minion with the rest of the with the newer could even be. Okay. Now we come to a new topic. So the bottom line is regarding we've completed the topic of if you found a mistake in the safer tra the bottom line is we follow the Rama and the Rama is namely that if you find a mistake in the safer and you've already read and you could stop there you make a on the puzzle for okay don't let them convince you that you just stop drop and roll and take out a new one. That's for people who don't follow the does everyone have to follow? No. Only people whose mothers are Jewish follow the Rama. Okay. So if your mother is Jewish and you're ling the safer and you readim and you could stop you make let's say a guy gets up and he says I remember in the alim they did X Y and Z. you said your mishaldic and you ignore him and you make a bra on the safer okay then however if you've only read or and therefore you can't stop or you read three and you can't stop there you cannot read and apostle to be able to make a then you do not make a you take out the new one and you read a minimum of three in the new safer okay that's the bottom line so if you want to be the one guy in the sh who knows the all you need to do is just remember the last 45 seconds of the sh. Okay. What about what's what's likely to happen where he finds he finds a shab mistake in the middle of the aliyah. So then he goes to the end of the aliyah that so that they can check it out. It's happened multiple times. I mean if you find something you you know you draw try to draw the attention of uh by the way nowadays it's not as common as it once was. Not saying it's impossible but >> the tree are necessarily you know in in that they're going to know if it's a mistake or not. >> No they're not. No. Right. >> So the has to be asked but that happens during the aliyah. >> Yeah. You have to I mean if it's missing a letter or missing a word. Yeah. Here. Yeah. >> Sometimes it's a nip and that can happen. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know what else it could happen? If the safer Tyra is a little bit old and usually a bal tends to spit all over the safer. People don't realize there there are little little bubbles of spittle when people talk on their spittle eats away at the ink. And that I've seen I've seen par that you know you have letters completely eroded after one year or two years of laning. So it doesn't happen so much with old the spittle dissolves the ink. Okay. Now the continues. Okay. this that you take out another mistake a missing we don't take out another why and the riaz and the marel that we are not the vo also not just not in But there's no reason you you have to be concerned that the new one won't be any better. The the Rama quotes the epis the mar. Now let's see in the let's say it's missing or it's added a word or a letter. Now it's interesting byin is more lenient than safer a missing letter or you know that is more lenient because a safer has to be only par that's what says anyway if it's an outright mistake you hear this vice versa says an outright mistake or let's say you wrote up and it shouldn't be or you didn't all of these are straight out. That was the issue with the that were written based on the tick which was an erroneous tick. Tikk doesn't mean for bala. means for for in other words if ifra does not have or they flip or they make where it should not be it's possible or let's say you have two letters that are too close to the extent that a child who's not too smart not too foolish reads it as as one word right if you have two words, excuse me. If you have two words that are not spread uh that don't have the correct distance and a child, an average child would read as one word or the word was written in a way where it looks like two words. Let's say these two these words where we have a tradition it's one word if they're found on two different lines you have to take out another one but that's mashma but if they're on one line even though they're divided the rhyme says it's not possible that's what the says why because even though according to the msra we write it as one word but since the says that this word should be written. Even though we don't do that, we're not going to posity of it. Letters or words are a little bit erased. A rubbed out letter that an average kid could still see it is not possible. You don't have again you don't have to take out another one. Doesn't mean you shouldn't fix it, but you don't have to take another one. What if an O is nipac because of a hole? says I don't know I don't know if we follow that cuz it's relying on the raam that pussle yeah but we don't this is working not with that I don't know if the would go along with that okay even If you have, listen to this, that if you have a safer that is worn out, but a kid could read it, then it is. However, if the black ink has been removed, now all you have is this reddish tinge. So now it's a change of color and it's look what we wrote earlier in the name of there we wrote that if it turned red because it's old it's why that is what happens to ink after time it turns maybe it oxidizes but if mamish turned red but or if it only turned to a tinge of red but it did so immediately so then it's not because of age then it's possible says that if it turns red after age you don't uh take out another one what if the stitchings have torn between the columns even if it's mostly torn Even if most of them are torn and it's still attached with five or six stitches, it's kosher. Less than that, you should take out another one. However, if it's torn in one of the the rest of the Tyra is going to be kasha. This is a very interesting sta status in there are certain that only parcel that particularish and does not part pass other. So let's say in berius the stitches are torn. You only have four remaining stitches. You could still lean in the saf in shm or vikra. I want to tell you that's brought in the safer of parades of from Abraham he brings from the great of mayor that if inbar you have stitchings that are torn after you could even lane inbar before because we pass there are in the Okay. Um during the reading you find one letter attached to his friend. If it's attached in the whole length or the image of the letter is changed because it's attached because of or let's say there was a mistake in the reading and they read instead of but if there's just a minor attachment between two letters and it's not it's not ple contr to what most people think most taking um putting back to are because letters are touching which is a a mistake. It's not a problem. It is not a problem if the letters are touching. It's only a problem if the letters are touching along the whole length or it's furthermore. What if because of moisture or spit it looks like the letters are touching it's kasher no if if it look if the letters stretch out but you See that they're not touching the D should bring it. It's it's okay. But if they are touching, it's not okay. Um but here in the in these lines of the Mishnu, it's that is a problem only if it's or you would read a different letter. Now what if the deb is not affecting the main part of the word only a ancillary part of the word going okay that that's going back in the last thing in other words even if the connecting letters are of a ancillary part of the word like a VV, it's still a problem. Next, if there's no attachment in the whole length of the letter, only a little bit and it doesn't change the main image of the letter and they're very recognizable. Take it out. as long as you didn't scrape it. But if you did, if you didn't realize, then we'll see Hashem next time. Okay? 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