0:00 / 0:00
What Can We Learn from Chanukah? - Part 3 - Rabbi Dr. David Gottlieb
116 views
Follow us: https://www.hidabroot.com https://www.youtube.com/@Hidabrootcom https://www.instagram.com/hidabroot_global https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VbCYZjl1CYoa4ulQIK2q What is the spiritual outlook of the idea of nature? Rabbi Gottlieb expounds further on Judaism’s approach to Greek culture and philosophy. For more inspiring content: @Hidabrootcom
Comments(0)
Transcript
Auto-generated transcript. Not time-synced to the video.
as anyone yeah he's got a he's got
stocking in a candle factory I think the
point of it the point of it is to
symbolize the number of the night so I
don't see what the point that would be
it is true that I'll tell you something
else the minimal Mitzvah the Mitzvah
that that's perfectly adequate to be
satisfied is one candle / house / night
so you have only one candle today okay
and you can have 30 people living in the
house wouldn't matter one candle / house
/ night now there are two ways in which
the Tom would suggest upgrading and it's
one is that each responsible adult shed
light is on menorah and the other is
that you should increase the number of
candles per night a question of which
takes precedence but there are two
possible upgrades commentators ask why
is this mr. structured like this why
should it be abated minimum and then two
upgrades a single upgrade you have very
often there is the best way to do a
mitzvah then there are certain parts of
the midst of which if you omit them you
are still satisfied at a minimal level
but there's no other mid so that has
built into its definition two upgrades
and the answer that's given is this
history tells us that they were looking
for pure oil with which to light the
menorah when they reset it up after
pushing the Tsarina greeks out of
jerusalem and they only found one
container of pure oil what would they
have done if they had found no
containers of pure oil they would have
used the file toil you are allowed to
use the filed oil to motorboat Sieber is
the way that which the tower puts it and
you have no option to do the midst of
the service in the temple other than to
use items that are not pure you use them
so finding the pure oil wasn't the
difference between lighting and not
lighting finding the bureau is the
difference between
lighting in the best possible way or
lighting in an inferior way the whole
miracle was to enable us to the limits
in the best possible way not the
maintenance of possible this was
possible without it if the miracle was
enable us to do the midst of the best
possible way the rabbinic response is to
structure the midst of such in such a
way that the upgrades are prominent in
the midst in a way that isn't any other
Mitzvah and that's why there's a double
upgrade because other ministers have a
single upgrade this double upgrade to in
it and it's not so difficult there was a
time when people were very impoverished
and then it was very difficult like that
number of candles but always for some
segment population it was not not
important expense and yeah at times in
history like now where it was an
important expense for anybody so that
means it's available to everyone to EE
upgrade an enema Mitzvah and to show
that we're what we are showing us
precious here is the ability to upgrade
to do things in the best possible way
because that's what the miracle
supported ok ok now last two days we
made some remarks about it I give nature
and how that for the Greek philosophical
point of view nature's everything after
my point of view there's no such thing
as nature at all we proved that
yesterday I'm not going to go through
that again I said my two days ago that
our attitude towards Greece is not utter
rejection our attitude towards Greece is
to find what aspects of their life style
philosophy ideology can be incorporated
into the tents of Torah and use it the
parts that can't be have to be rejected
but the parts of the can should be
integrated yesterday I said that even
though nature laws of nature causality
has no ultimate reality but since God is
committed to its appearing that way
someone who studies the appearance
analyzes it in detail and can predict
what it requires will be able to tell us
what to expect and that's why even the
Jew who doesn't believe in nature takes
aspirin for headache
because God has committed that this
pattern be continued in our observation
that use of the Greek impulse to
understanding through through science
was practical question is whether there
isn't a deeper spiritual use of the idea
of nature and there is in order to
explain this I want to give you an
explanation of what happened to ottoman
hava in the garden when they were
confronted by the snake and they ate
from the tree of knowledge now this is a
story that has vast hidden dimensions
that we don't really understand that
doesn't mean we can't get anything out
of it the explanations which which give
us a superficial view and superficial
you is true it's just that it doesn't
real the great depths in the story of
this alert has an essay in which he
analyzes the nature of the test and the
important implication of his essay which
he points out is that our world is a
replay of the test that he faced it's
not just that that was historical event
that took place and had a consequences
and then we live in a different world no
we carry our history with us the same
type of challenge he faced is what we
face and that means we can take we can
get insight from bloody face in having
failed and we're going to get some
understanding of what our challenges are
the idea of the snake is the idea of a
temptation to evil that's external to
the person the implication according to
some is that the first two people who
were created directly by God we're not
capable of a deliberate transgression
they were not capable of a deliberate
transgression come to Adam and say look
at this cheeseburger okay he didn't have
a bomb achievers but
look at this theft look look how
beautiful it is look how look how the
Prophet you'll make he can't hear you
here's what she's talking about there's
no internal motivation whatsoever for a
deliberate transgression the only way
they could fail is if they could
rationalize to themselves that what
they're doing is correct that in itself
is what God wants they were capable of
rationalization so the challenge has to
be that he's faced with a
rationalization his job is to see
through and quickly identified that is
false and to resist what's the
rationalization well God said don't eat
from the tree just clear that's the
command but says Adam to himself I'm not
capable of simply violating God's room I
capable of doing that okay he said not
to do it or they will do it but then
it's trivial it's trivial nothing's been
accomplished has there been any struggle
hasn't been any great victory of good
over evil of courage / when laziness and
and and viciousness I'm just following
my nature if I do that wouldn't it be
better to eat from the tree once in even
the tree wants would mean to internalize
the impulse to evil as we are
constituted every one of us is capable
of doing something evil deliberately
we're capable of it and we struggle with
it wouldn't it be better he thought to
internalize the impulse to evil and then
conquer it and then not eat further from
the tree and thereby win a great
spiritual battle for the sake of God's
will wouldn't that be better so now the
normal response to such reasoning is
sure we better but can't do it because
God said don't do it but it's not so
simple because Jewish law the torah
from which the whole world is created
does allow that on occasion a law of the
Torah can be violated if it will lead to
a great sanctification of God's name the
Jewish court has the authority to do
that prophets have the authority to do
that and it has been done it's been done
in the Tanakh when Elijah challenges the
profits of bow to a contest in the Haifa
area in the caramel mountains and he
says you build an altar I build an altar
and we'll put sacrifices on the altar a
call to alcohol to the Creator you call
to your phony gods and let's see who
sends fire from heaven at that time
there was a law that since the Temple in
Jerusalem was standing no sacrifices are
allowed to be offered anywhere else in
the world from the time that it was
built even when it's not standing so he
was violating that law that's true but
in order to defeat the profits of vow in
an open contest and to create a
sanctification God's name it's
permissible to do that the Talmud has a
number of cases where the courts
violated certain laws of the Torah
because by so doing they would create
sanctification of God's name so now
added reasoning continues she asked
Scott said not to eat but look God knows
that he made available to me the
structure of the Torah so he knows i
know this rule of the torah and he's
taking it into account he told me not to
eat he knows that I have a principle
that could overrule his command not to
eat so as to create a greater
sanctification of his name God surely
took all of this into account and he
wants me to follow that meta rule and
eat once and then resist the temptation
to eat from the tree when I'm lowered to
a position where I could deliberately do
the wrong thing that was his reason at
this point most people in the others say
wow she sounds pretty good yeah what's
wrong with that narrow Destler as
exponent of the mooser movement where
they take seriously deep self analysis
particular analysis of your motivations
said there are two ways to portray Adams
position and Adam portrayed it to
himself one way whereas the
psychological reality was a different
way i'll give you the two ways Oh way to
portrayed it the way that I just said if
I just don't eat from the tree then my
sanctification of God's name and the
world is trivial there's no battle
there's no triumph it's trivial that's
the way portrayed it to himself but in
psychological reality was different and
as you'll hear it's the same words with
just a different emphasis if I just
don't eat from the tree then my
sanctification of God's name is trivial
the second way is where I'm trivial I'm
trivial what role that I play what did I
accomplish what did I do I have become
trivial I have no significance I have no
meaning I have no value the question is
whether the external sanctification of
God's name in the world is trivial or
whether I'm trivial and this was his
challenge his challenge was to do a deep
internal self analysis what is my true
motivation to what extent is ego playing
a role in this motivation and notice
we're now talking about a spiritual ego
we're not talking about ego to get money
to get power Fame pleasure we're talking
about a spiritual legal an ego to
accomplish something spiritual that's
also eagle that's also you and that was
his challenge this challenge was to
analyze what was really going on in his
motivation to recognize that it was an
expression of a spiritual legal a desire
that I should be somebody somebody
spiritual and then to have said that's
not what God wants that's not worth
accomplishing through violating a rule
to make a bigger sanctification of God's
name because it's not going to make a
speaker sack tificate
you guys think it's going to make me
bigger making me bigger doesn't justify
violating his rule he failed to the self
analysis how why he failed was Esther
doesn't say this is again just
describing the surface and that's that
was the failure in what he did okay that
becomes now the theme of the aftermath
the theme of the aftermath is to work on
undermining the ego unempowered the ego
facing where the ego is inclined to take
charge inclined to demand expression and
reinforcement and to say no and if you
look at our world the world post even if
you look at the word the world god
structured the world we put it into it
would put us into it you can see that it
is designed to create multiple
opportunities multiple dimensions in
which the ego wants to be expressed wats
reinforcement and our job is to at every
point try to short-circuit that so how
does it work in our world well just as
the case at Adam but for us it's diffuse
and more broadly spread out the ego
wants credit for its accomplishments now
Adam was put into a world in which the
food arose naturally he didn't need
garments the weather was ideal and there
was no death no disease no accidents it
was just one challenge we're put into a
very different world we put it to a
world where we have to take control of
our lives we have to provide for
ourselves all of our physical
necessities social necessities including
defense and yet somehow avoid the
temptation of the ego to take credit for
what we do
so person works and earns a living yes
you actually heard that any Shiva people
work in our living the normal feeling is
I put in the hours I studied I prepared
I did what my job and I got paid I got
paid because I worked I earned it I
deserve it and I'm getting what I
created for myself somehow we are
challenged to get to let go of that to
release that let me give you an analogy
which may make this vivid let's imagine
that IBM is advertising for new
programmers and setting up week's trial
to identify people who are talented and
they're going to take five of them and
hire them and put them into a new
programming position so they take these
hundred people they say here here's a
programming language and here's a
program we want you to write probably
will do XYZ and they're writing their
programs that running it's running
sample runs and they're getting feedback
they can use diagnostics and many don't
get a probe that works at all and the
number do get the program that works and
some work better than others the end of
the week five get the tap come in on
Monday these five programs did work and
worked well and your other are going to
be new programmers fact they committed
monthly morning and IBM represented
system you guys are the most talented
and we are confident that you're going
to do well at IBM we so want to tell you
something that none of your programs
worked none of them worked listen what
do you mean I read it I got the results
I ran the diagnosis I no work no all the
results that you got were fed to you by
master programmers to see what you would
do if it works will you try to improve
it how we try to improve it when you
rent Diagnostics the diagnostic results
we're not given to you you're fed back
false results so as to see what your
next move would be to see whether you're
creative whether you're inventive
whether you have the imagination we set
up a maze to see if you can run through
the maze which approach didn't work
you're the best guys you get the job but
your progress didn't work
do you think that you deflated probably
probably because they were taking credit
for creating a program that works
something like that is how God runs the
world we make efforts the results of our
efforts are a gift God presents us with
the results our efforts don't create the
results think of what we said yesterday
for those of you here yesterday if every
movement moments is a new creation and
no moment causes what happens in the
next moment it can't be result of our
efforts it's just a new creation of God
in according to certain patterns so we
make these efforts and God presents us
with the results we said yesterday God
is committed to a certain pattern of
events he wants the events of all
certain patterns one of the things that
pattern does is to make it look like we
produced the results it makes it look
that way why does he want it to look
that way because he wants to give us an
opportunity to be sucked into the
expression of the ego if it looks like I
produce the results then I deserve
credit reversibility results I made it
happen and then the ego gets reinforced
that I'm special I'm doing something
that's precisely position God wants it
to be in so as to be able to overcome it
so before I enter into an effort I ask
God for help and when I finish if the
result that I was hoping for a arrives I
expressed my gratitude to God for giving
it to me asking for help and expressing
gratitude are antidotes to the ego it's
the same dynamic that Adam faced only
Adam faced it in clearly spiritual terms
here we're now translated it into
physical terms but it's the same dynamic
of denying the ego the picture we have
we mentioned the other day here becomes
very vivid the picture we have of every
action is
being makes a decision a decisions event
in the soul free will as an exercise in
the soul and then from there on the
motions the body and the ripple effects
into the environment are all a matter of
the way God creates it because every
action is a partnership every action is
a partnership none of it's done alone
the world operates in such a way that
it's easy to miss that almost everyone
does miss it and most of us who know it
intellectually we know intellectually if
you ask me a question I know the right
answer to give but do I experience it
that way do I feel it that way I know
Destin another essay points out this is
not just a question of knowing the right
answer to luxury it's a question of how
you experience the world the goal
ultimately is to feel that when
something happens in the world it's a
direct divine creation so much so some
of you know the the katha movie
expression ain't some holidays we do not
rely on miracles just as a footnote I
should tell you all Talmudic rules have
exceptions that's the way they wrote
that was the start of the literature and
many general statements in the written
Torah also have exceptions it's not a
failure it's not that it was sloppy it's
not whatever that there are calories
ables if that's the way the literature
expresses itself when you'll study
literature's of other cultures you
understand that yeah different
literature's have different modes of
expression and well that's the points
out cases in the Talmud where there were
people who did rely miracles one is a
famous case with Lena Mendoza was friday
afternoon and his daughter was setting
up the lights for shabbos by mistake she
poured vinegar into the lamp instead of
oil and she lit the wicks and then
realized it was vinegar now he's stuck
once
once the eyelid you've already accepted
shabbos on yourself and the wick is
flammable but the vinegars like gonna
burn david also said don't worry listen
to his words he who commanded oil to
burn will command vinegar to burn and it
did burn now that's obviously a miracle
but listen to his words he commanded oil
to burn why is all burn don't talk to me
about molecules and oxidation the
Creator commanded oil to burn the same
creator whose command vinegar burner and
there's no difference there's no
difference between them oil burning is
just as surprising as vinegar burning or
neither am I surprising the fact of the
molecular structure what you know about
oxidation is irrelevant it's all a
divine creation a person who sees and
feels and experiences the world
continuously as a divine creation
camelia miracles the only person can't
rely on miracles who doesn't is a person
who doesn't see it that way who doesn't
feel it that way but once a person has
reached the point where oil burning a
vinegar burning are equivalent in his
experience there's a point in hiding
anything from him he also there was a
poisonous creature of some kind called
on our roads it's not clear exactly what
the creature was lived in a hole in his
area people were afraid of it rightly so
he said show me where it lives and they
showed him he took off his sandal and
put his bear heel on the hole and this
creature sense that something was there
and came and bit him and this poisonous
creature died and they carried him on
the shoulders back to the to the house
of study and he said this is the teacher
that it's not the road that kills it's
in that kills arrow doesn't kill the
cigna kills now he thereby did an open
miracle but the same thing is true if
you experience the whole world as
equally miracle there's a point in that
it hiding miracles from such a person
that's the goal and that means to
subtract the
entirely the big enemy of seeing the
world as a continuous miracle is the ego
because when I make an effort i want to
take credit for it I can only take
credit for it if it's not completely a
divine production completely a divine
gift I can only take credit for it if I
made it happen and I can only make it
happen if i push God's activity out of
the way in which nature works so it's
the ego that's driving me not to see the
truth now this is a physical example we
also have it in spirituality as well
there's a famous statement the Tom but
now this timeless power of the state is
paraphrased in the language that people
use I mean stated to you the way its
power faced God says to to a Jew
fiscally PESA to the Jewish people piss
Willy pesca judicial naka 9ef doc with a
kid Pisco Cholula open up for me an
opening the size of the eye of a needle
and I will open up for you the
entranceway to a great hall that
bothered me many years ago many years
ago I'm very old maybe 40 years ago then
the idea is you make an effort do
something spiritual and I will invite
you into the world to come through the
entrance way of a great hole so I said
to one of my colleagues here Oh ship
indras why is gone playing cat and mouse
with us if I have to go through the
entrance way to a whole give me the
power to open up the entranceway to the
hall why is he say I should open up only
the the eye of a needle and then god
whooping up he said because the illusion
that you are making it happen the
illusion that you are creating the
result is not only an illusion in
physical matters it's an illusion in
spiritual matters also my god is saving
you from that illusion it doesn't want
you to be subject to that illusion
so you make the effort which punctures
by the way when you open the high of an
e needle needles metal and yet to
puncture it all the way through that's a
qualitative description of what needs to
be done as to be a hole all the way
through but it's a hole all the way
through something that's tiny thin and
God opens up the whole you hear it you
feel it as a response to your effort but
not its created by your effort and you
are saved from the spiritual ego now
that's at the end of time but in the
meantime in the meantime that's the
crucial that's a crucial element of this
of this challenge person works very hard
work hard to improve his character works
hard to improve his performance of
mitzvahs and he has some success and
that's not a bad way of putting it has
not created caused forced but he has he
has success yeah how did he have it
anythings will I worked hard I worked on
that's true but so what so what have you
worked hard the right thing to say is I
worked on and God crowned my efforts
would success because that's a response
that he wanted me to have and as I said
before the neighbor of Dessler it's not
enough to know the right answer it's
it's it's to experience it that way
where does the experience show how do
you look at other people who don't have
success how do you look at them do you
sneaking lee feel a certain superiority
well of course he's not succeeding
because you're not working like i'm
working do you work like i'm working
he'd make it to how can i say that i
could only say that if you worked where
I'm working he'll also be successful if
I thought that my work was producing the
success if I give that up how do I know
what would happen to him if he worked
like I'm working maybe had more success
may be less success it's a gift that God
gives to put you into the next step of
the of the maze that he wants you to
face she can't say something like that
there's that's the same problem of
facing the facing the temptation of the
ego took to assert itself
to try to overcome it that means that we
are living Adams challenge continuously
only for Adam it was comprehended in a
single challenge but because of his
nature that we can't understand that the
nature of the conditions that we can't
understand it was all of our reality
plus much more all integrated into a
single challenge price has been split up
that's one of the reasons so many people
so many people because it split up each
one of us faces it in a particular way
each of the conditions of life house as
the cherem the way of God has its own
challenge and no two are the same let's
take any money it makes a big difference
if you start off poor and you earn your
money that's different from inheriting a
lot of money but keeping it up or maybe
increasing its up the temptation in the
first case is much higher much harder
than sonication second case because the
second case you just continuing what you
had hey you're making it so to speak
from nothing what happens if the person
starts off wealthy and loses everything
and then has to build it up from nothing
that in a certain sense come even harder
because becoming poor is a shock it
destroys his sense of confidence his
sense of position sense of solidity and
then he has to reach to recover it
that's the third way in which the
challenge of wealth is has to be faced
and it's endless did your competition
from siblings and you're the only
sibling that made it so then that's also
a challenge to feel I'm better than all
my siblings the variations on life
conditions are variations on the
challenge that you have to meet in
subduing the ego the compound integrated
challenge of Adam is split up into
thousands millions and billions of
people and each one has his own slice of
that challenge that he has to as the
face and overcome ok so now nature the
appearance of nature is what facilitates
this
spiritual challenge the appearance of
nature is what makes it possible for me
to think that I made the product I my
sponsor the product well it's a physical
product or a spiritual product rosewill
product we based on psychological nature
extent to which i think that psychology
is subject to my control am I my
creativity problem in certain ways in
which people I built character is built
motivations are built and in that way to
try to take credit for what I'm doing
I'm together so far okay so now there
are certain strategies built into the
Torah which enable a person to try to
overcome this and the one that I
mentioned before is a crucial strategy
again Sato in the way of God points this
out in this chapters on prayer you start
every morning with prayer I thought that
says among other things what you're
doing in the morning is this is a
prelude to a daytime of effort what you
say in the prayer is I know that
everything comes from you and therefore
i'm asking you for success when you ask
for success several things are happening
number one I'm acknowledging that it
comes from him and number two on a
deeper level this I saw an SLR of matty
c o'sullivan who's the musky aachen in
lakewood they should have a full
recoveries not well when you ask for
something in prayer you have to believe
that God is listening and if you ask
well if you ask meaningfully if you if
you invest yourself in the prayer that
could make the difference because gago
say if you're praying in that way I'm
going to answer you and if not not which
means if you do that in the morning you
say listen all of what I'm doing in the
day for it to be successful depends upon
how I prayed the prayers of the morning
the rest of it is just what I have to do
to make an opportunity for God to give
it back to me and get back to me in a
way that isn't an open miracle because
I'm not worthy of open miracles
the real source of the successes that I
prayed and God answered me and he gave
this to me as a gift if I carry that
consciousness with you as you go through
the day then you i have an integral
available for this temptation of the ego
and also when you say thank you every
prayer ends with an expression of
gratitude I became you say the silent
prayer next list plastic is an
expression of gratitude that becomes
crucial to this point of view because
it's the gratitude which then subdues
the claims of the ego to the prior
successes and understands that they are
the blanket this is the challenge of
understanding who we are what we are
what row we're playing in the world and
that everything that we do in the world
is an intimate relationship partnership
with God that's the challenge
you