What Brachos Will We Make When Moshiach Comes? - The Rulings of Rav Chaim Filagi & Rav Shlomo Zalman

okay good morning everyone okay thanks everybody for sticking in there it's first Sunday of the new man so people are still uh getting over the yam but we have a very important topic today we're continuing on the theme we've been speaking about lately of the Mitzvah being yesterday between we learned that when when is many theah number one we mentioned one is one is and we learned from the of H and also his Parish on the Sid called today we're going to read a letter the wrote to regarding what will we make when M comes what are we going to make this is in the this is a letter from is one of theik I had a re who was close with he wrote the he wrote the EV tan he says um [Music] 1974 before was born yeah okay so says give us and he says we're gonna make four number one the one who is wise of Secrets that's a br that you make whenever you see 600,000 Jews together for sure when msia comes there'll be 600,000 Jews together so be familiar with that number two you make when you see a that gave from his wisdom to those who fear Him so you say and when you see a you make the and number four and interestingly and I was thinking this right off the bat because there's a famous story that when met King Juan Carlos in Spain so R said he has to make the on a king he also knew that Carlos was a very wise man and he held you have to make the was should you combine both of these bras together into one and that yes you should combine them both into one in that case comes you should and by the way that's printed in theak of says this was the that he gave accordingly you should probably when mhia comes combine number two and number three into one in fact says there's a doubt if two and three maybe you should combine them together maybe you're being now he says if one wanted to eat you can combine them together let's say you wanted to eat a piece of cake and an apple so you wouldn't say you make them separately likewise because you can't come you don't say but you have to make them separately isn't that AR that it's also to be one with another now the question though is if you ate drank wine and you ate you say you do combine it so why is it that by we do combine it and by we don't combine it that's the question of in he says if you ate and and we do combine it so responds on the 16th day of basically the next day he got the letter erab shab he says we do not conclude with two unless it's something that the sages consider one like thear says in or like we find in the usami that even though we're on each one by itself but we could combine them why Why by if your and you could combine the two into one because the matter was rectified the is on the fact that the food is so since in order for to get it you have to take off Trum and you could combine it as opposed to now I still don't understand what would what's the difference between why can't you combine but you could combine and but says you could only combine where say you could combine as I mentioned before says you combine these two now say you could combine with another it's because that's is not a it's just removing K in the name of the that's that's not considered being with two he says it could be says besides the reason that says you could say it's because in we also combine all of them into one even though it's three or four right when you say you're combining so since by since by you're combining everything by you could also combine everything it's just if you just eat or you just eat grapes then you specify them separately but nobody would say that you could combine and again we're dealing with the question why is it that could combine but you can't say and well that I would say it's p you can't do cuz then it's going to be he if you're going to say and you eat the eating the is going to be a he between the bra and then now eating the Apple so of course you're going to have to separate it but I guess so that question I don't even hear but the question I do here is why do we separate I think it's because K were Ming a separate on each one as opposed to so you say the same thing a king and a wise man they're also m massing a separate a says you know even though in the we find that the salvation of Jewish people in the building of are like two separate points when you finish reading the meaning there's one opinion in the you should conclude the after there's one opinion that says you should conclude what do we do we say both how are we allowed to say both I thought that so apparently you have to say that it's considered one inion by the way say somebody pointed out to me that the Chua says that on two separate and you do not combine them however as I pointed out in the of he when he saw King Juan Carlos he did combine the two into one he said not like now so that's a very interesting uh uh point now I found in a Coates I found in a Coates if anybody wants some breakfast it's just right I I found in a Coates that they published the response of to because I'll tell you an interesting thing wrote what should you make what's the if you hear good news makeu it depends if you hear good is that's good for you and others you make so why did say you should make a and didn't say anything back what's an example of when somebody hears good news they make if you have a baby boy now if you have a baby girl that that according to K does not warrant it's not considered the threshold of good news that how ever that the same way if you haven't seen your friend in a long time you make a you haven't seen the baby girl in a very long time in fact you never saw her before so he says you make a so the question then is why is the BR that's being suggested why not so I have a where they print a from what make when comes responded it's you don't combine the two he says I want to this want to respond you should make and in other words when you hear M comes then you need to make when meaning even before you see him when you let's say you hear the news you get somebody puts you know somebody sends you a WhatsApp send to 10 people Masia is here so I wouldn't make the BR right away I would I would verify you know I would want to see it myself I mean I would I would believe it but I would want to I would want to verify yeah doesn't the he says says when you have a baby boy that if you made a when you heard the report um you do not make a within 30 days and until in other words just when you hear the news you can't make a so you should make unless you say that on the of the Mas which is a new you should make so now the himself also wrote another response he says to this that which you suggest you should make he says look in you should make I why would that be if there many if there many siblings that saw let's say in other words let's say you haven't seen your father or Mother after 30 days says you say but according to this if there many brothers and sisters so I would say you have mind when youing yeah if you're if you're you could have in mind the same way if you're you could have a mind by benching um okay so these are some of the interesting questions again I have over here another saer it's called sh um first of all He suggests that when you hear M comes is coming or is here you should make there's no greater for than the and when you hear that he's coming you make and you should not make a uh when you he when you hear about the news his question is he's M if you should sayu when you see him like if you see your friend after 30 days and you're very happy to see him even though you've never seen mhia before but we know the Missin to make a Shu on seeing a new a daughter even though you never saw her before however I would say you should not make another because because is if you have a baby boy and you make then when you see him you don't make another sh he's mic about that so you should make and not and not again not like sort of sort of take took it for granted that the right to make is what about the of says in that msia will be one of the sikim of the last generation and then immediately a r will come down on him will you say the so I'm not I'm not sure what he's saying because the the tradition in K who come from someone who is uh from the you have be so sure that that's that's only that you see after somebody you haven't seen in a year so will that apply to Messiah who you never saw before that's only because why are we cuz uh we we assume the person is alive just cuz we haven't heard from them or haven't seen them we assume he's alive so why won you say the same thing so you mean if is a guy sitting next to you in so you should not make he says what's the here here's his argument the M says in if you were told your wife had a baby boy and you came back after 12 12 months you do say why cuz you haven't seen him in 12 months so you're saying but we're not to make that that's we're not no on a regular person but to somebody who we didn't know about and we have never seen maybe we are no I don't know I I don't think that is so I want to share with you one last thing um here by the way he quotes who says you make a and he asks on him why didn't say that you make the of I want to share with you one last thing I found in okay I believe sh the questioner says not like he says and not like the The Who if you would also make a Shu the sh says you do make a Shu but the question is do you make a on the itself says what you ask me question he says but in my opinion you're going to make a which exactly what we say by the say and we're going to tweak the it's interesting refers to now the do we say or we have there check top shelf I think we say why we could open it for this by the way this is not like said you just make a why on seeing someone notable he says you're going to make a because we were to reach this man this is something the other P didn't bring we're making sh not because we're seeing a new person because we're to reach this occasion why we definitely will establish the we're gonna make so basically when M comes says says what are they says to see 600,000 Jews which says we do not combine however I think would say we do combine them someone knew others challenge this we saw the uh in the and in the sh they argue you should say in addition in other words you should say upon the good report andu when you see his face but adds not just by seeing him but when we reach that era in history and as well he says that the braa we're going to make is so let's see in the we say so says we're gonna say okay we should to make all of these