Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

Malcolm Homeline is with us. Conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations. We call this the weekly update here at JM in the AM. Mr. Homeline, welcome back to JM in the A.M. >> Thank you. Good to be with you as always. >> That was quite a preamble I gave. Huh? >> Yes. I'm just sitting here shaking wondering what's coming next. >> Well, you have no need to shake. You're not going to have trouble responding to this. The reason I would think you might be and others might be upset that I'm bringing it up is that I'm bringing it up at all. Uh and that is of course a leader in the Satmer community has actually tossed out the idea of um continuing to fight the yeshiva draft law um with complaints against Israel by filing complaints against Israel at the International Court, the infamous I will use that word international court. And sadly, Mr. Homeline. I start by asking you your reaction to this news story. >> Well, we just saw the story and uh the fact that um um somebody from America and uh people whose positions are are well known uh coming out of elements of the community. Um, I mean, we don't have all the details yet, but the idea that even the intervention, let alone the idea of going to a place as hostile to Israel as and I would say to Jews, the as the International Court of Justice is the ICJ, which we are fighting on on so many fronts. I I think that um I I don't know whether it's a publicity stunt, whether they that the the association, but you know, with all the animosities and the divisions that we see in Israel, this is going to only exacerbate um this even more. Um they're supposedly collecting reports, a group in the United States working to collect reports of police brutality and pass them on to US members of Congress to at a time when we're you know fighting against the internal enemies uh through DSA and all of those affiliated groups. Uh and he met and the GRBA's involvement in this has to be clarified. We can't just go based upon the news reports. Um I think that this is a very disturbing development. >> I mean we should mention that just based on what you've told us about what what um leaders and rabbis who are in Israel, the way they view the situation, I I think you'd agree that you'd be surprised if they did not either come out against it or remain neutral on the issue. Would that be accurate? >> Certainly. I think they would come out about going to the International Court of Justice and um I think anybody would say knows what the possible ramifications of that would be and and the embarrassments that there are people who appear to be immune to it and maybe it's because we've let the boundaries you know be eroded of what would be acceptable and unacceptable in general. >> Yeah. But I think you've brought up something I never considered and I'm so glad you did because I have to think about this now. And that is the other boundaries, the geographic boundaries. In other words, I you may be hitting on something really important that leadership outside of Israel who feel even more disconnected from the whole situation there, whatever the situation means, government, uh, political life in general, those who really are completely separated by 6,000 miles from the situation in Israel, they're the ones, as we see from this story, who are inclined to go ahead and file this complaint at an international court. Maybe you're suggesting that somebody who's in Israel, especially somebody among leadership, great philanthropists, etc., they would never think of doing it because they see up close and personal what happens um in terms of the court's reaction when a complaint is in fact filed there. Could that be one of the differences, the distance that this Jewish leader uh has between him and his community and Israel? Well, I don't know how I wouldn't define a Jewish leader yet. I think what we um we often had the problems that come from within the community and um we'd have to hear fully their views. But everything that even the public statements um uh are disturbing and unfortunately too many people are more interested in the publicity than thinking through the ramifications and is true in regard to many issues that confront us. But a time when the divisions are so deep in Israel, >> I mean, you have to use your brains and and uh and and your heart >> to to derive it at approaches that make sense, not just common sense, that make sense >> and that we don't know all the details. I think we have to know much more but it's certainly very disturbing and in Israel will become you know just a political football in this in the in the heightened uh climate before the elections. >> Yeah, no question about it. Um all right, let's go to Iran for a second. The president of the United States essentially extended a deadline this week. He had said that uh he was going to pummel Iran, worst attack since World War II, etc., etc. and then of course backed off um gave them more time and insisted to the public that they are begging him for some type of deal. They went ahead and denied it. So where do we stand now? I mean is there a hard is there a new hard deadline or really these deadlines are completely meaningless? >> The deadline for the >> United States >> for the Iranians to do what they haven't done till now. >> Correct. And the message that could be sent is one is a reverse one that if you given the perverse thinking of of many of the Iranian leadership or the perception that is created and I met this week with people from the region let's say from even hostile parts of the region and you know they they talk about the how especially let's say in Iran after what happened in January that we've lost we're losing the people and the confidence of the people in these countries who were all gung-ho, you know, and to remember the president saying that that, you know, we would be with them just as American presidents in the past said it to the Iranian people, but also to others. I mean, there is today a really serious development which has been being built up to for a while. I mentioned it a couple weeks ago about the when there were indications of it, but now it looks like today even there could be a signing in Riyad between Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey of a new defense pact. This is a gamecher. Now, I don't believe that Turkey is going to send, you know, airplanes to bomb the Houthis to defend Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia, with all the billions, hundreds of billions more that they've spent on weapons, never proved that they were able to to execute and to properly provide and to take on the Houthies, for instance. They did participate in with the United States in some attacks on Iraq when the militias Iranianbacked militias in Iraq. They have participated in other things uh other activities and I think behind the scenes they play um more constructive role than than what they do publicly. But this I think is the the core of what could be a big game changer in the region for Israel for uh and for others. Uh you know the UAE and Saudi Arabia despite some of the you know messages sent that things are warming up. It's not true. The the hostility seems to continue and the hostile relationship it's not as open as it was but it's still there. But when you take Pakistan, a nuclear power, you take Saudi Arabia with its resources and Turkey with the largest air force in and the army in I think in NATO, I think it's the largest or second largest. And you know, Saudi Arabia has never proven that they were able to use the weaponry to full in effect that they were able to purchase. Turkey uh took on the Kurds and now they signed a pack that removes a major uh challenge to them. Their focus today is almost solely on Israel and the taking over Syria which they control 5% today. Israel controls 1% or less. Yet you don't hear about the Turkey uh role aggressiveness and and attempts of dominance in Syria and elsewhere. And then you you put the three together, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Turkey. And Turkey with its huge population, Pakistan huge population. And you think about the announced plans to build the railroads bypassing Israel and to create perhaps economic uh coalitions as well. It has a lot of possible ramifications. And what's the US relationship now with Saudi Arabia? We we had always been under the impression that it was a very good one. Uh is this a is this a move that the US would approve of or are they wary of Saudi Arabia now they've entered into an agreement with Pakistan and Turkey? So, so the United States has u one government relationship certainly Saudi Arabia and we know that the seen reports just last week of the call from the crown prince of Saudi Arabia to the president as being a major factor in um the decision to hold off on the on the bombing the um the relationship between Erdogan and the president the president of Turkey and the president of the United states is very warm. You see how he praises him a strong man etc. without going into the fact that he's a Muslim Brotherhood advocate and unfortunately there are people close to the president uh including some who serve in the region who are advocating this relationship and this the the you know Qatar and Turkey are working together. They are the I think the the front for the Muslim Brotherhood in the region. uh they work together on on a lot of the stuff including about uh Syria etc. and the uh they provide the the funding Turkeykey's economy is in ruins. Um but remember it's a huge country that can turn Europe on fire overnight. They say if you know Turkey gets a cold, Germany gets pneumonia, >> right? >> Because of the millions of of Turks that that are there uh who came as guest arbiters and were people came out of the adaturk tradition have been radicalized in Germany. >> How many are there? Are there more than 100,000 Turks in Germany? >> Uh well I would say there are probably 4 million 5 million. >> Wow. uh they started with 3 million. I think it's the number I actually talked to people this week about it is much larger and of course they also go to other parts of of Europe because of the Shenhen agreement. You don't stop people at at borders um except the East Europeans who don't let any the migrants in. Right. So, so you take all of the ramification, we talk about Turkey alone for an hour. Uh, but Pakistan is a nuclear power. Remember IQ Khan, you remember all the background about them sharing the nuclear selling the nuclear information. And while I think I think that there's still pragmatic people there and people with whom we could actually do business, uh I think this will will create a front and the question is will it counter Russia and and China? Remember these countries all flirt with them now. >> Yeah. American do a lot of business and sell obviously the oil um China is the biggest uh consumer of Iranian oil about 80 plus percent but also from others it might from Saudi Arabia and um will this be a counter to the belted road will it do other things what happens to the IME proposal which is the Indian uh le proposal to be to to which involves a bunch of countries as well uh And and I don't want to see the bulcanization of the Middle East. I don't I think this but but I I I this should be a blaring headline. This story and I'm sure it will be in Israel once they get the details. But it's it hasn't been signed yet. It's supposed to be signed I think this afternoon >> according to this was signed 21 minutes ago. >> Right. Well, that's this afternoon there. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying. >> Yeah. Right. >> Um Yeah. Now, it's hard to navigate this because now I think we have no choice but to conclude that Saudi Arabia is never going to be part of the Abraham Accords. Am I am I wrong about that? >> Well, it will certainly complicate things more. Uh and as I said and I've said on this show many and professed this for a long time that it's we've been mistaken in how we go about dealing with Saudi Arabia. We shouldn't be talking about it. We shouldn't be begging them to come in. We shouldn't have to control it. It's in their interest. But the more you publicly demand, the harder they become, the higher the price becomes. And the domestic resistance increases that we should moved ahead with others. And there are others in the region that would have come into it and will come into it. Uh and when Saudi Arabia realizes they're left behind, I can tell you that the leader of Saudi Arabia, top leader there, said to me a long time ago that a lot of our initiatives, including Naom and other things can't be built without Israeli technology. We know how much we need it, but remember that there are a lot of uh different forces at at play in Saudi Arabia. I still believe Saudi Arabia can be a partner. I think if we if we would deal with Iran, get rid of that issue and then which would undermine the Houthi danger and what I said earlier about their abilities. Uh look how the Houthies were able to I mean these peanuts were able to challenge them and and attack their their resources and airports fuel storage and they they you know they bypassed the restrictions in the straits of Armuse by by exiting the oil to the Red Sea across land and then uh to the boats in the Red Sea. But if they close Babal and Dab, that would close off their excess route for for the oil that they export >> and and now Saudi Arabia is expecting Pakistan and Turkey to help them in the battle against the Houthis. Like how does this how is this an advantage in trying to get the Houthis to stop, you know, stepping >> first? First of all, it's they shouldn't even need any help against the Houthis. Uh but um the Houthis have attacked others in the region including Israel including of course working at the behest of of Iran against others and shooting at ships American ships and others in in the Red Sea. The um so we don't know yet h how this will play out. Saudi Arabia has has been sort trying to soften the edges with everyone and and I understand they want stability. they they need it. Then while they're oil rich, the the crown princes try to move the country for years in a direction of not being dependent on oil and looking for other uh sources of income and and uh for sources of energy as well. They have huge solar potential. They have other potential which when you're swimming in oil, you don't think about, but he does and he thinks ahead and and he's very smart and I think committed. uh but but it's not a monolithic um constituency that he has to represent. So the the question is how will Iran interpret this? How will others do we come actually to a final line? Is the reason why we we we backed off again and again and again which may be justified and I think President Trump wants to to finish this this issue. uh you know the debate of whether we have a shortage of of ammunition and of uh longrange of missiles to be able to to to use the interceptors is very damaging to America's the perception of America and to the security because if the enemies think that we don't have the ability to resist >> right >> and uh and I believe that we could easily act and decisively and once and for all there are reports that the supreme leader is very dangerously ill right now. Uh we don't even know if he's alive, but but he but if he's alive, he's very dangerously ill according to these reports that came out today and yesterday, last night. Uh which also will be uh have an impact both on the stability region. Nobody has seen him. Nobody which proves that maybe you don't need a supreme leader or that he's you know they can they're just manipulating it. But all of these are destabilizing factors that will have impact on on Israel. It's a time when Israel has to be unified. This the the increasing tensions between the parties and the fact that everything gets politicized. People have to think beyond this moment that that will have longerterm ramifications. >> Yeah, you could you could have made that statement in any era. It seems uh that's what always seems to be the case in the political situation in Israel. It's America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listener sponsored digital radio around the world alamusicle.com on the single network of course the beloved NSN app before I get back to the Turkey thing which I will in a second. So Turkish population in Germany it's amazing how accurate you are. I was only I was only off by like millions and millions. Here it it says there's 1.4 million with Turkish citizenship. 3.1 million with a migration background from Turkey and 7 million in Germany who identify as ethnic Turks. Wow. I just got a uh a lesson in uh in world population. That's pretty amazing. Also, is Erdogan the deacto leader of this new alliance? Is that how how it will be viewed? >> That that's actually a good question. I don't think we know the answers because we don't know that much yet about what this what the conditions are. But Erdogan, first of all, Erdogan hasn't been well and etc. and he's not young and and I'm sure he's looking at this for something for the future for his future um future leadership of his country. is you know he keeps imprisoning his opposition and but we don't hear where the condemnations nobody taking him to the world court nobody you know defending the rights of the people of Turkey to have a choice when you know the mayor of Istanbul and Ankor they he puts him in prison as soon as they represent any kind of a significant threat so he he's uh and you know he's he's very involved in inside Syria not just in Syria and and now they signing this peace deal with the with the Kurds, the PKK, even to the point of of supposed disarmament, uh is um it takes enables him to focus on other issues. There are still a lot of tensions between Turkey and Greece and people think it's all quiet. It's not quiet at all. And um and the you know they and if there's not a decisive outcome in Iran, that will have an impact too. They say whether the west has the commitment and the sustaining power and the ability to really pursue its needs and this is an essential need which is to destroy the regime in in Iran. >> I'm trying to find if there's any reaction yet from Jerusalem. Do you think the prime minister is going to make a statement regarding this new agreement? >> I think it'll be very hard for him not to. He may not want he may leave it to others to do because I don't know that he'll want to be associated with um with this because then they'll point to it and say that uh that Israel's position is uh is weakened. But um but you know that Israel and some of the Gulf states have been holding talks to develop routes for Gulf oil and natural gas bypassing the streets of Ramoose and the Bel and Dab. um according to reports that had emerged this week and one immediate uh option would be unloading oil from tankers from the western Saudi port of Yanbu which is um to to the port of a lot and then it would be transported through existing pipelines to Ashcolon and shipped across the Mediterranean to export. So I mean that would be uh that would strengthen the relationship >> but I think you so you have always as always um the complete competing scenarios in the region. Um but you know Hamas has moved its covert activities to to Turkey from Qatar. So Turkey is not, you know, playing it. It they charm the United States and and uh President Trump has, you know, spoken about President Erdogan and such long terms as a friend and has uh um but uh there are people there who have seem to have ideological and other interests in pushing this relationship. It's funny how geopolitics is. Because of the NATO fear of Russia and China, Israel is now in a weaker position. One could argue that, right? >> I I don't think this I don't think Russia and China are in a stronger position because of it. I don't >> No, but Israel's weaker. I'm saying because of American fear of Russia and China, Israel's now in a weaker position because this new agreement. >> I don't think America is afraid of Russia and China. Russia has proven in this long war that it has it's this the the limits of its capabilities. China um is always uh on the agenda not only because of potential actions against Taiwan but because of the belt and road and its aggressive behavior but it's it's it's aggression is largely advancing its meeting its food and energy needs which is dominant. They also have big um demographic problems other things um that the u but I I don't think Russia and China you see how limited their involvement in the Iranian war maybe they provided Russians provided intelligence you know guidance for movements of US troops and other things like that but they did not get involved they don't can't spare the equipment and and China uh while it did get involved more in some of the shipments of of equipment we found out about usually after but it's not a major and decisive role. So I think Russia and China are more marginal than that and certainly the fight within NATO NATO is going through many changes and they are unifying. The president did force them to start paying for their own defense and allocating a bigger percentage but still comes to like 3 4%. uh but until now they were just relying on the US and we carried the burden for all of that. I think that he did redress that imbalance and the um uh uh so the the native threats are are more serious and the fact that if if Iran is able to walk away from this and that will have devastating impact in the region it's already having it in terms of the confidence. So one level was on the people level in Iran and let's say other countries but also on the political level that what appears to be inconsistencies or you know uh and and the interpretation that we're too weak, we're too this, we're too that. I don't believe that that is true. I I think there are there are shortages of ammunition. It's true globally and Israel is moving to become more independent in that regard also setting up factories to devel to produce their own weapons because being reliant on the global supply and especially when the United States has other demands like Ukraine uh makes it very difficult. >> But it's funny that weapons shortage even though I know it's in the it's in the news but it's never the primary reason. The primary reason everyone talks about the his hesitation to go into into action here is because of the midterms. It's all a political thing and and if we didn't have these elections coming up in the United States, a lot of people suspect that he would have gone ahead with whatever, you know, threat he was threatening over last weekend. So, it's interesting. I mean, there may be some >> that is Yes. But I'm I'm citing the other things how people interpret it. They don't know about the all of the election politics in America, right? in in a lot of these places, they look at it and say, "Is is America does America not have the will? Do they have a secret agreement? Do they do they not have the weapons to do it?" Very few are going to say they're worried about the election in Kansas, the impact of this right now. That's an American concern and Americans see it and and we're seeing it more and the victory of the DSA in the last week, I think, highlights it even more. I think only Israel is really focused on the American midterms in terms of foreign countries. I mean, but they get it over there and obviously there's a lot of people from the United States that are there. Speaking of which, by the way, not enough people from the United States are in Israel right now. It's August. It's tourist season. I noticed that American Airlines extended its suspension suspension. We're talking about Pesak time is their new deadline. And hopefully Delta and United are going to make good on their commitment to be back before the end of 2026. any you think it might happen actually? >> Well, first of all, I think people should return their American Airlines credit cards and start sending a message to them that this is really irrational and um it's you know the Israel being um increasingly isolated because of it. But yesterday or not yesterday, today is Friday. So I guess on Wednesday I think was a record day. I think a hund over a 100,000 people went through Benorian in the one day. It's a record. And despite the fact that the tankers are still some of them are still at Bengorian although most many have been moved to the Ramon Air Force Base uh which crowds the airport and all the reports that you know it would it would hamper the flow of people that it is amazing that they were able to handle a record crowd. They have archa flying now and of course um lal and uh others and and the thing is it's their most profitable route the for many of these airlines Turkish Air had 13 14 flights a day and they complain about the people who work there complain about the losing this um this very profitable route. So the the um uh but the fact is that you had a record number of people flying in and out of Israel. Uh I think tourism August is is expected to be a good month but we have to make sure that people go and go go for the Khagim. Uh it's going to be beautiful in Israel. The weather forecast is great and the uh and to plan winter vacations it's very important that we have to sustain it. people, you know, a lot of the smaller businesses and others have paid a heavy price and even the hotels, uh, while they they survive, it's it's, um, it's very costly to them. >> Yeah, that's an understatement. Um, all right. You mentioned, you alluded to it a moment ago. Let's just go quickly through this. Um, uh, the current election season in the United States. Abdul Elsed defeated Haley Stevens. They're going for Gary Peter's open seat in the Michigan Senate race. This is US Senate, folks. Yeah, you could have Abdul El Say as a United States senator. We'll ask Malcolm in a second if it's likely. In the Michigan 12th, Taib was renominated. Okay. Can't do much about an incumbent like that. I was a little surprised that Cory Bush lost in Missouri's first to Wesley Bell. I don't know if you were surprised by that or not. Apac was obviously a big um factor in that race. So, what is We'll take those three unless you know of others. What's your reaction to those three results this week? >> Well, Cy Bush is not a surprise. Cory Bush lost in the last election and um uh I think the margin even bigger this time. The others Elad you have to know how much money was poured into it from outside. People regrettably are focusing just on Apac and the fact that Apac became a distraction in this election or a focus of attention when this is an American group. They they kept painting it as if it's Israel manipulating this. Uh it's a the the pack that got involved. I would wish they did things more quietly. I think you know we have to be careful that you you're inviting this kind of reaction and that the DSA organizes against it. uh but they don't organize against all these other groups and how much foreign money is channeled through the DSA according to reports and other uh sources um uh that we know that have been operating for a long time. how much money Qatar swamps all of the money that we put together or that any AP pack or any of the pro-Israel packs put together and that there's nothing illegal and appropriate for American citizens whether if they're Greek to be uh supporters of of candidates that uh um represent their positions or people from every uh organization. The question is the manipulation and the lies, distortions and the fact that you have people who who celebrated October 7th who who you know condemned the the attacks on 9/11 not from our side from the other side. People who have expressed themselves in horrific ways against the American system and seek to undermine and imposing the DSA's agenda. And nobody knows what democratic socialism is because like vibe it has no definition in today. Uh you know Israel used to be a member of the socialist international because socialism itself was not anti-democratic. Sweden was a socialist others were >> today it obviously has different connotations and especially here in the United States. So these the real race in Michigan will come down to it. I think Mike Rogers has a good chance of winning. We need they need to get support. But the key was their ground uh effort that they organized. They brought people in from all over to work the crowds to to drive people to the polling booths to to uh facilitate uh the outcome of of a guy whose views are so abhorent in so many ways and the promotion then of uh you know Mr. M from New York and others and and I think we should not talk about him. We should mention his name, but um as that young woman told me, we should call him the Grand Muy of New York. But but um uh you know, we have to learn that we we're promoting these guys too much. We're focusing on should focus on the issues and the substance and what these guys represent, what their election represents to the United States. The American people don't want it. And by the way, one of the mistakes is people think blacks don't want to, Hispanics don't want it, other minority groups, they do not want. And they're winning with, as in the case of espionage, 17% of the voters showing up. 17% which means 2,000 votes could have turned the election the other way. >> Yeah. >> So again, reminding everybody to register and to turn out. By the way, the I mean, you're right that that it's much tighter than it was because the projected uh a couple months ago the projected Elsa Rogers election was like Elsa by 60 points. Now it's basically a 20 point difference, but it is narrowing. So, I don't know. I mean, I you know, I I don't know if Rogers could pull this off, but um it's uh it's not it's at the moment it's not very at least according to the polls. I know that polls aren't always accurate, etc., But somebody's betting markets are accurate and nobody has it as a close race right now. So we'll see what happens on that. Also, >> they do say it's a close race. >> How close? Which which poll has been the closest that you've seen? How many points? >> Four points. >> Really? >> For for Rogers. Yeah, >> cuz the betting sites are like are like, you know, they're not recommending that uh that the Rogers will win. It's interesting. Well, we know that the betting sites are often manipulated and you know, and I wouldn't I certainly hope people don't just base their votes on that. Um, and and you saw that Cy Bush betting everything on on the Israel issue. She lost. >> Uh, I mean, she ran hard against Apac and so do others, but that is having an impact. >> Yeah. Look, there's a lot of time left in this race. I agree with you. There's a lot of time to go. Yeah. But these things are having an impact and an erosionary impact that people demonize um a pack. uh and and while the the other side can pour in billions over years to to influence our campuses and our every institution, our cultural institutions, the the debate in America. Um the fact that Americans putting together funds to to involve themselves in a domestic election is it's certainly an imbalance. >> I hear that. But the other thing and I mean the the only other thing is uh I I think the difference between what you described as you know trying to keep people's mouths shut with the Apac thing as compared to other like when it comes to the prime minister of Israel I agree with you that sometimes things are better not said and there are many situations we could you know tell people it's just better to remain silent on the Apac thing it's hard to maintain silence when these days every email press well not press release but every email announcement private conversation becomes exposed lose by somebody either in the organization or someone affiliated with them and it's really hard to keep any strategy under wraps in that situation. >> Yes. and people infiltrate these organizations are paid by outsiders to do that and uh but the question is you know it's a question of approach and how you structure it and um and I mean it's obviously well-intentioned and it's it's meant to impact it to counter uh the influx of of money but when it becomes the issue >> not the substance the issues don't no longer relevant the issue becomes quote apac and you know and painting it as they successfully They have in some cases in the most nefarious way and and um anti-American way and and yet they haven't taken on Qatari hundreds of billions hundreds of billions still investing in it. The fact that that China the fact that Turkey the fact that all these others are are pouring money in today China even more than Qatar and the campuses and and the Qataris say they're going to focus on Hollywood. They're going after every source including all the manipulation of of the online the bots that come out and and here now the latest report they they traced a lot of the bots that were producing the pro uh mayor uh reporting and stuff I mean support turned out to be bots traced to city hall and uh if that's true then that tells you a lot and uh it's so much is manipulated that we don't know we can't see it it's almost impossible to trace everything, but they're clearly using it. We know that many of the things going to one day at the White House, I think 80% of the anti-Israel messages were bots from overseas and it's automated and you know, so we're creating bots too to give out the the right information to counter it because I think ultimately the truth is our strongest weapon. We have to sustain that that we that our credibility remains intact. >> Wow. Unbelievable. machines are going to end up fighting the battle for everybody on both sides. >> Pretty remarkable. Uh thank you so much. Have a wonderful Shabas. We'll speak again next week. >> God willing. Be well. Malcolm Homeline, Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, weekly update here on a Friday of Shabas at JM Eminem.