Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

Malcolm Homeline's in Israel. He has just spent quite a week in another part of the world. He'll discuss all of that. Will and we will get to the prime minister's visit, etc. We'll get to everything, but we got to start with that obviously. Don't forget our friends at Jewishorldview.com. If you're looking for thousands of articles before Shabas to print out and learn more and more about this amazing world of ours, go to jewishworldview.com and enjoy. Malcolm Homeline is in Jerusalem. makes our weekly update when that is the circumstance even more even more special. Um it's time for our weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations live from Israel. Malcolm Homeline. Mr. Homeline, welcome back to JM in the AM. Thank you. Great to be with you as always looking over beautiful sunny Jerusalem. uh during this week sometimes the degree difference between New York and here was 30° 40° and uh the weather is supposed to be remain nice uh throughout the the week the coming week so God willing it'll be a very productive and beautiful week >> yeah today it's about a 50°ree difference by the way I mean till later on so supposedly later on we're actually getting into the 40s on this era of shabas so tell us about your journey which countries uh were you in this week and uh describe for us how significant a visit this was. >> Well, it was a very significant visit of the uh delegation of the conference presidents. uh we went to visit and to celebrate a 20th anniversary of our first official visit uh in 2006 to Azer Bjan uh a country that very few people understand know where it is realize its significance it's the only country that borders on Iran and Turkey is vital on the Caspian is the hub for Asia European commerce and transit Uh it's an energy base. It's got extremely close relations with Israel and Israel steps in and helps it. One of the two countries that helped it during the war over Carabah, Nagara Carabach, which uh rectified the illegal occupation by Armenia. And um now the um the government of Armenia is working closely with them and they are supplying gas to to Armenia that is as a bashan is as they are to Israel they bought 10% of the Tamil oil field their uh soar which is their the largest and the major uh oil and gas industry here and the uh they also are going to start drilling off the coast of Israel. and in turn they supply Israel with sometimes 40 even 50% of their ex their imported oil. So it's it is a vital country. It's a country that gives Israel some strategic depth. It's a country that has 30 million adherence meaning 30 million million Azeris live in southern Azabjan which is a province of Turkey of Iran. They have uh quite a few in Turkey as well, but they have 30 million Azeris living in Iran and they are a very vital and and important force there. And so the relationship is is very critical. The border between the countries is essentially closed, but there's a lot of interchange because families have relatives on both sides. The uh the country is committed to its relationship with Israel. You can walk on the streets nakum with a yamoka in a 99% Shiite country but it's secular Shiism. It's a the model for what should be. And when somebody will make a comment about you know whether you should wear yamaka all of them say why why are you even asking the question? >> There's never been a single anti-semitic incident. And the people welcomed the Jews and especially Israel particularly after the war and their help there which they greatly appreciate. There's a hero of the war uh earlier uh aspect of the war who's a national hero a Jewish shahid they call him and his grave is is considered a national monument. >> So it's a country contrary to all that you would expect in a Muslim country. Kazakhstan to great degree the same. But here there's kosher restaurants in Baku, a beautiful kosher restaurant with absolutely reliable hashkah and it's very good food. We were able to have meals through the schools. Kabad also catered some meals and uh I'm telling you we all gained weight during this trip. Do did the 30 million have free passage from Iran to Azerbaijan? Obviously, I'm asking the question because we know about the restrictions when it comes to Jewish people uh who are in Iran. Uh they don't enjoy free passage. In fact, there was a story that came out this week about a a crazy way for a family uh to actually make it to Israel. I'm sure you saw that. Is there free passage for those 30 million between Iran and Nazarjan? >> No. the borders are are essentially sealed. Um there there is communication. Uh I would assume that there is uh some supplies that cross but the border is essentially closed. >> The people there identify as Azeris as you know they um some people even say they are has Azeri uh ancestry. the president current the president of of Iran uh has a very uh heritage. >> So those who have family in Iran don't see them on a regular basis. >> No. >> And what's the relationship if Azerbaijan has this what seems to be the way you're describing it an open friendship uh if I could use that word with Israel. What is their relationship with Turkey and Iran? So that is actually an excellent question which we posed repeatedly to different uh people. We had an amazing meeting with the president whom I've met with many times before. I visited uh long before we had the official visit of the conference. I was there already in 1999. I met this president's father who was president of the country. He had been head of the KGB and when the FSU, the former Soviet Union broke up, he emerged as the leader, people thought it would be very bad, but in turn in fact turned out that he tried to rebuild the country, built an oil and energy based economy. Uh, but is now and they're now trying to diversify it. I met with him and he he could not have been warmer or or nicer and invited me to his home for dinner where I could not eat anything. But we had the best discussion for an hour and a half and even took me down to his man cave and and poured me a drink which was considered the highest honor that he he bestows. And then I I was there several times afterward, many times since, because it's it's such a vital country and people just take a look at the map for one second when you can and see where it's located on the Caspian on the borders with Russia, on the borders with Iran, on the borders with Turkey, on every and of course with Armenia and just look at the strategic location and a country that has practiced moderation. uh also I got to introduce him because I was the only one could pronounce his name and he but he's an amazing guy. He's been there for 50 years. He's chairman of a lot of the key Islamic organizations of the of the former Soviet Union states and uh the Council of of Islamic States and in the in uh the caucuses and uh holds many positions. He's considered one of the top leaders Islamic leaders in in the world. He's so open. He hosted us yesterday. He talks uh with with uh re reverence towards Judaism and towards Israel. >> Do they do they realize how volatile their neighborhood is? Do they realize what's happening now with Iran? And we'll talk about obviously the president of United States and the prime minister and their plans. We'll talk about that. Does he realize that Turkey would love to take over the region? Do they realize the volatility of what's happening next door? >> Well, they have a good relationship with Turkey. Turkey did the system in the war as well. Turkey uh has a lot of influence being the large country on its border, but they have maintained an independent um stance in the time when everybody else in the time of the uh war in Gaza etc. broke relations. They did not. They continued to to purchase from Israel and to sell to Israel. They speak openly of the relationship and the importance of it and how much Israel has to offer them in terms of high-tech and helping them build an alternative economy to just oil and gas. So, do they realize it 100%? Does the Shehl Islam uh who attends international conferences sees it? They they uh don't respect the extremism. They don't allow any imam to preach in in Azabashan who is not trained in Azabashan. I mean you can't have any foreign trained imams who are indoctrinated in the more extreme factor aspects of of religion or view of the religion and they they have cameras in all of the mosques to be able to monitor what the speeches are and how that the message of moderation is is continued. The young people speak very highly. We met with Jewish students on the campus. They don't even know what anti-semitism means. I mean, they know the definition, but never experienced anything in in their classrooms, nor anti-Israel manifestations. >> Look, this is not something you can take for granted, and that's why we go and we help strengthen it. And also we should note that Usbekistsan, Kazakhstan and Azerban most the mo the majority in Usbekiststan in Samaran Bkhara saved hundreds of thousands of Jews during World War II or it gave them safe sanction safe haven. Uh and we were the first to honor them many years ago and they said that no one ever had recognized what they did. They many of them were coming from Russia. people have been sent to Siberia uh went there but others who were just escaping and of course the population the Bkharan population is very large in Israel and there's about 100,000 in Queens that is part of Usbekistan so this could be the next front of the Abraham Accords I hope it is u they they already have diplomatic relations with Israel but we want to expand the economic ties they want to do so they want to benefit from Israel's high-tech and see how they can build cooperative efforts and relationships. When you walk away, you you feel that, you know, there is hope for the world. There's some insane place and we should reward them by having tourism and people who do business and to to have connections to them. >> Do Israelis travel there? >> There are 21 flights a week between Asaban and Israel. As you remember, there used to be 13 flights a day to Turkey. Now that Turkeykey's out of business, Azer Bashan, Azeri Air as it's called, and UAE airlines picked up the slack, but now they were they used to have one flight, not even every day. Now they're up to 20 flights a week and um and very committed to expanding it. They want the tourism from Israel. They want to bring tourists to Israel and they they you know spoke about this very openly. they they look at the uh high-tech sector and see all the things from which they could benefit. It's um you know it's an amazing story and the the Armenian lobby in the United States it's very tough on them even though the government Armenian no longer is and accepts the agreement and agrees that the matter is resolved. There are people here still who do not accept that arrangement. the um but the generally in Congress there's a greater and greater understanding and hopefully that will increase and not at the expense of anybody else but could be the core of uh you know because it's it's a buffer to Russia it's a a buffer to the belt and road initiative it's uh it encircles Iran when you put all of the pieces together so it has vital strategic interest >> and they're next door to two some might argue three regimes that want to take over the entire region. It's really it's it's a rough it's a rough situation. And by the way, why why does Russia concentrate so much on the Ukraine? We're in the we're in the in the midst of a four-year war. But but why are they not invading places like Azerbaijan and countries more on the south side if in fact his goal is to, you know, expand the Russian presence as much as possible? They do want to expand Russian influence there and they're constantly trying, but they took the other side. They backed Armenia. Um even though Iran backed them as well uh in in the war, but the the um the Russians try to play both sides. They have trade with um with Azarbashan and Azarbashan recognizes this is the biggest country in the region. They have to deal with them and they have to trade with them. Turkey is also a very big country with big air force and uh so they try to have decent relations with all of them but not at the sacrifice of Israel. Never pulled back on their relationship with Israel. Um >> they have they have to have a strong military. I'm assuming >> they have a relatively strong military. You know that that's why they were victorious in this last war in Carbah. But they uh I I don't think on the international standards it makes the top five or six. >> Russia does covet the oil and gas and does have designs on it. But the Kazaks and the USBs and the uh as dairies in particular are very democratically oriented. They um have uh a fierce sense of independence and would strongly resist any attempt. The they they know u even though the president succeeded his father, the fact is that they built largely democratic or free society. People suffer no religious uh persecution or coercion. Christians function freely. Uh we had a meeting with the Sheikh Islam, the head of the the Muslim community and I described and and included in a group were several rabbis um Christian leaders and and leaders of other Muslim sects sects in in Azarbashan or sectors in Azerbashan. >> So it's it's done in a cooperative and and open spirit. >> Interesting to America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program. We're going to listen to sponsored digital radio round the weather.com network and of course beloved NSN. I have Malcolm homeline with us from Israel weekly update time. We'll get to Trump and Netanyahu in a second. One last thing Malcolm, I'm just curious. I know it's minutia. Why ha why has Putin met with Rabbi Lazar so often over the last few weeks? >> Well, maybe he likes him and uh you know he's he wants to make sure that he'll get his masa for pes. So is it is it that is it just that he's always meeting with him but now social media picks it up and now we all know about it around the world. Well, there's also the PR aspects and there they are, you know, the the community in Russia is still an important one and the communications with them which has continued throughout and Putin has always seemed to have had some sort of a a warm spot, at least in my discussions with him about the Jewish community and his his personal ties that go back to his childhood. Um so I I think in terms of the substance I'm sure Rabbi Desar raised issues there may be shortage there may be uh particular concerns that have come up but uh I think it's an ongoing relationship. Uh all right let's get to the president and the prime minister. the prime minister, the way it was described uh among many in the press, ran to the United States to have what seemed to be an urgent get together with the president of the United States. Was the purpose of the prime minister's trip uh to make sure that the president of the United States would not encourage a deal with Iran and instead do whatever needs to be done militarily to benefit Israel against Iran? I haven't had a chance yet to speak personally with the president. I have spoken with others. Um and so I'm these are my assumptions. The pre the prime minister wanted this meeting. Remember it's the seventh within a year. This is unprecedented. It was different in the sense that he didn't have the big entrance from the front portal but from the back and no big press conferences because it was very serious subject and I think they wanted to focus on that. Uh, I think the prime minister's agenda was one to share new intelligence that Israel's come up with what Iranians are planning and what they're doing. And they hint at it, you know, that they've developed new missiles, that they that they covered up their nuclear plants, you know, to in anticipation of a potential um strike. And I think he went there to encourage him not to take the the word of these guys who have lied consistently and all the time on a previous agreement uh but uh to make it uh hard and fasting that that will stop the nuclear advancement. They have the capacity to enrich still. They have the capacity to stockpile then and they want to retain that. But also Israel has a second agenda item which should be a a big concern to the US as well and that is the Iran's ballistic missile program which is very dangerous and very advanced. They have deployed some missiles. not everything was destroyed or um you know all the launching pads and they're threatening to hit the United States and they're threatening to hit Israel which would be enough reason for them to to be concerned and to be prepared to act against it. I think that the president may may be uh bringing another aircraft carrier group into the region I think was a is a big move. It it sharply increases the military capacity. Uh there was a big maneuver in a lot by Israeli forces. There are a lot of other things that are are going on that um you know indicate that military preparedness is is being enhanced all the time. But but the there are there do appear to be differences about approach. I'm not sure it's on so much on substance as it is on style and approach about what you do um and and how you approach uh the the the Iranians. Do you give them a trip wire? Do you give them a real exit potential? Look, nobody wants a war that is not necessary. You you have to be either an arms merchant or crazy to to want to see a war where so many people could be hurt. We saw the thousands the tens of thousands who died and thousands more who were injured in the original campaign uh war campaign. So the the um the stakes are very high and I think US is taking it somewhat slow and giving uh the Ayatollas the opportunity to produce. Uh I think regime change is increasingly spoken about and finally uh talked about the ability to um uh for well to open keep open all the options I don't want to go into the details of them but the military buildup the fact that Israel is on military preparedness that we've seen planes landing with munitions that the other countries in the region are on certainly on edge to put it uh mildly many have barred US from using their airspace including Saudi Arabia, Azabjan, Jordan. Um, you know, many of them have, but it may not mean much in in a real time of a real war. >> Well, I mean, you know what everyone's most curious about whether in fact this war is going to happen. Uh, and as we discussed last week, whether the aircraft carriers are simply a deterrent or a veiled threat or whatever you want to call it. But you raised something that's really interesting because we our impression was that now is coming here with the the thought in mind that really there are two avenues. One being um you know some type of deal which obviously Trump must be a different Trump. Remember last time around last term he would never even consider a deal with Iran. Um it's like a it's like a different president the way he's handling this or at least the way he's considering you know giving them that out. And of course the second avenue being military intervention. But the third piece, do you think regime change and its potential was a big topic with Netanyahu and Trump? And is there any way that either of them thinks that can be done without military intervention? So it's a very good question and there's there are many answers to it. I I do believe it's a subject of of uh of discussion. um you know even military intervention you you don't do it unless you know what the outcome is going to be or likely to be. We can't always guarantee it, but you know the Iran does have the RGC, they have the basie, they have the regular army, they have some capacity, not a lot. I think nobody believes that they could win a war. Uh but they the bravado of which they've been speaking lately. Um you know, is I think a cover for their fear and many of the leaders have left the country or a number of them have left the country. A number of people have defected from Basie and other units which is a sign we always uh uh look for. So um on the military front there are possibilities. It could be limited. It could be more expansive. Remember Israel still controls the airspace over it because they destroyed the um radar systems. They may have restored some but I doubt that they've restored most of them. and they'd have to, you know, weigh very carefully the steps in that regard. The second and and Iran is a military power and they have uh a navy not great. They don't have a great air force. Most airplanes are old and and dated. So, which is why Israel is able to get ascendancy so quickly in uh in the skies over Thran. the the question of regime change, which people didn't want to talk about all along. You know, people said, "That's not our agenda. We're only here to to guarantee people their rights and to to end a nuclear threat." And now, the fact that the president, others seem to be talking about it and recognize that anything short of a real clean sweep is going to mean that we're going to be back to the same old thing, that we're going to repeat it again and again. And some of them even make comments to that effect about how they could, you know, they'll they'll bring it back and they'll resurrect and they, you know, and they lie and they are willing to obuscate things in order to to get out of this bind that they're in right now. Remember the economy is in ruins. there's no water, no electricity or very limited that uh there are many observers and many people who are watching it closely who've seen the currency collapse, the economy collapse. So it's very hard for Iran to fight a war on that basis and to get people who are really committed. They call for a demonstration. People did come out for the demonstration. I'm not sure as the numbers that they expected. So the regime is doing everything to try and assert itself and its continuity. But the the Ayatollah is old. His son doesn't enjoy wide respect and support though he would be accepted if he was named. Uh there's nobody that really is a fully unifying force. And when you have a country of such diversity as Iran with half the population being awis being aeri as I pointed out 30 million 12 million baluchi u and the Kurds and everybody else there was a meeting proposed this week of of leaders of the opposition but in fact that meeting there were too many internal differences and uh they were not able to convene. I'm sure I think they will um still try to convene and coordinate not to create determine who next leader that will be done by elections but to create some sort of an interim uh body which would be representative of the people and enable them to to come out of the war not in a hobbled frame and you know with a lot of victims but as um is in a more unified way that to achieve the goal of getting rid of him and to look to the future. >> When do we find out if the prime minister had a successful trip to Washington? >> Oh, that is a very good question. Um maybe I'm sure someday there will be cabinet meetings. I mean, I know there will be and we're meeting the prime minister on Sunday. So I think um that could uh we could we would might have a better idea of uh what you know what what his mood is, what his assessment, but I'm not sure it was meant to be conclusive. I think it was a chance for the prime minister to explain to him the concerns, the latest intelligence. >> I wonder why he couldn't do that over the phone. You know, >> you know, you can't talk about these things over the phone. Everything gets intercepted and you need the personal chemistry that sometimes comes with it. It can work free for you or against you but it's it is very important the personal contact and >> but it also but one thing it also sends a message to the region when the president receives the prime minister of Israel seven times in a year that sends a message about the nature of the alliance and the relationship. That's why you >> regime change is a is a you know I'm sorry just regime change it's easy to say you know it's it's one of those rallying cries but you ask people to define it does raise Palavi some who are very much against him some are very much for him but he does have certain status he called for demonstrations and millions came out he he called for demonstrations the next night at the later hour and they came out so he has some influence it could be the fault and it could be original but we don't know. So the regime change when people say to me just get rid of the Ayatollah and stuff. You kill the Ayatollah and you don't have in place what's going to succeed. You could end up with a worse situation than you had before. >> You agree with me that first term Trump would never have gone down this road of a possible agreement or uh with Iran. >> Uh I I I'm not sure he still wants to go down the road of it. you know, he >> seems like it's so focused now on this, >> but he fains a lot. Yes, that is true. I think he would like to avoid uh uh >> milary >> that kind of of of confrontation, you know, translating into hot military war, >> even though it would not involve troops on the ground for from for any reason that I understand and that I can see. So it could be done without that, you know, an aerial war and uh maybe other troops u personal troops involved, mostly the local people uh that would take it over and then lead to elections in a reasonable time. >> Did you see the uh anti-semitism Super Bowl commercial? >> I did. >> What' you think? >> Then I saw it. >> What' you think of it? Uh I think we have seen >> you would have done it differently. Is that safe to say? >> Uh that is safe to say. >> And speaking of sports, um I I saw that the Israeli team was actually robbed. There was some big theft of their passports and other stuff. I haven't heard a word since that initial report. Is that something they're talking about in Israel or are we suspecting? >> Oh yes. Oh yes. Big issue. uh because it was that bobsled team which has been focus of a lot of attention even though they know they're not going to win but they or at least involved and that Israel has a representation and they were sharing an apartment and uh somebody broke in, stole their equipment, stole their money, stole a lot of their things and their uniforms even and so they were left beerefted and everybody was scrambling I think to replace it to to so they could compete. They did. Uh and I think that they qualify at least to be in the next games >> even though they didn't qualify in the top position, which is surprising for a Bob team from Israel. >> Shocker. Uh we'll wrap up with Gaza, but I just since since I and many know nothing about that region of the world, I'm just curious if you have any analysis regarding the landslide victory in Japan this week. I think it's part of a worldwide phenomenon that we're seeing and people are taking harsher positions because of the economic pressures people are under. They want especially young people, they want change and those who who misinterpret the New York election since we've been discussing it from way before the election. And I said don't jump on the on the polls and don't look at the even the results I think are significantly wrong. And I've met with young people who were involved in mobilizing for Mamani and they said, "Listen, we're not anti-Israel. We don't know where this came from, but but we we did it because we can't afford our apartments cuz he promised us feasibility and and um what was the word uh that that they used to to describe?" >> Affordability. Affordability. And uh you know, we were arguing about Israel, which was not the subject. and and the vast majority of them did not cite that they cited they cited vine that they looked at the other candidates as being tired old old people you know retreads and they saw the the younger alternatives so we shouldn't jump to conclusion we have to work very hard we should be registering people getting out to vote preparing people for demonstrations if necessary if you know the the internet is a fire because of the Iran war and you know that Iran is manipulating a lot of with their bots and and infecting the internet, this the different sites with uh putting the messages even on the White House um uh information line and message line where they they uh pack the uh responses uh to reflect their their interests. So, it's it's um you know, people have to be heard. This is a time when we should be out every day because there isn't an election now, but there's an election very soon in November, which is tomorrow. And and we have to make sure that not just the governor's election gets attention, but the the the guminatorial races just won, the state senates, the and all of the other positions that are are going to be filled are going to be very important as well to send a message and to to build for the future. finally and and I I was hoping that one of the reasons he did want to meet face to face meeting the prime minister with the president was to give the president a dose of reality about what's happening in Gaza as the president continues I mean yesterday was a big day for this continues to express how he's going to you know lead this force to rebuild Gaza and turn it into the Riviera and everything else and Tanya would love to see the enemy who who completely dominate Gaza right now at least be disarmed if not completely expelled from the from the area. uh where is the reality somewhere between the prime minister and the president we I assume is the truth in this entire scenario and will the president continue on this road where he's convening meetings there's one scheduled for the 19th uh where he's convening meetings where he and where he is actually you know thinking that practically speaking Gaza could be rebuilt. >> I do think the president wants to see Gaza rebuilt. Remember, Israel holds almost 50% of it and they are cleaning out constantly the tunnels and they're having clashes as they discover still terrorists who have either come in or were there. They had living accommodations in some of these tunnels. They had, you know, resources there. The constant uh finding of weapons these ped both there and in in Lebanon tell us that this is a you know a very dangerous and cancerous situation. We should remember that the president figns a lot. You know, I mean, he'll say it's like a, you know, a tennis player who faints that it makes really look he's going to hit to one side and he hits to the other side. Um, we don't know what the president is going to do. Nobody really has a hard line and he may not have made up his mind finally yet as to what he's going to do. He said that if they continue executions, which they are, they are killing people, young people. think you know that that the gunman went into the hospitals and shot up the protesters who were taken in for gun wounds uh and other people who committed suicide just stop. So we have to rema remember that we're not dealing with people who tell you exactly what they really mean or even close to it that sometimes it's a way of manipulating a willing press uh which is ready to publish everything and everything anything uh but hardly thinks about the consequences or or the real meaning of what they they're publishing. So people have to be educated, have to be aware, which is why we do this show and talk about all the developments. Each one of these, as you can see, is so complex, so hard to just take a few sentences or a few seconds and say, "Okay, this is what the president intends to do." >> But I just want I just want to know if the prime minister takes any of this seriously. When the president Oh, >> absolutely. Absolutely. >> When the president speaks about rebuilding Gaza, the prime minister actually can get into that space. Well, the prime minister agreed to serve on the border of peace. It's convening this week. Uh leaders are coming there, not all, but they are taking it seriously. And what we're seeing is the erosion of the UN on many fronts. This is normally something that the UN would have done. And I think the president is trying to send a message. The UN is no longer a reliable uh vehicle for all of this. I think if he he feels that if they can um do it seriously but the idea of giving Turkey and Qatar the education portfolio tells you that they don't really understand the truth the nature of the parties that we're dealing with the UAE doing it UAE showing how they changed their textbooks as did even Egypt and Saudi Arabia but the UAE primarily uh that would that would be a very positive sign and not to bring in an empowered Turkey and uh Qatar are more there are Muslim brother states they push their agendas there and here in in the United States and around the world we we have to you know every revelation that comes out from kindergarten to 12th grade to campuses to communities to Hollywood to medical in profession to other professions every single sector affected by it that's the nature of the enemy that we're facing it's a poisonous one and they seek to inculcate and we'll use any means possible and the internet gives a way to do it anonymously and to to create fictions such as the numbers that are pro-Israel and stuff. It is not as bad as as it seems. It is bad. It is diminished and it is of concern that we have to educate a generation. We have to reach out to them in new and creative ways. and in the ways that they listen. That's why people analyze the ads and everything because we know we're going to be repeated 100,000 times and we'll be readjusted because that's how people get information. >> Yeah, understood. Uh enjoy Shabbat in the holy city of Jerusalem. >> That is a guarantee. As soon as you say Shabbat in something's wrong, it's it's wonderful. People are confident. I don't see any sense of panic. Look at the shekele. It becomes stronger and stronger. Unbelievable. Too strong to my taste when for those of us for those of us who have to make purchases here and stuff. Um our our dollar is worth less and less. Uh hopefully with the adjustment in interest rates and other things, it'll it'll regain some. But there are people experts talking of it going even below three. >> I know it's amazing. >> It's it's now the low lowest in 40 years. You know, you know, some real some realtors as an incentive are letting people pay on the old rate, >> which is unbelievable. >> Absolutely. >> They'll let they'll let you pay on 3435 as this is now on some markets already 307, which is unbelievable. Anyway, whoever would have dreamt that. Uh, enjoy Shabbat in Jerusalem. We'll speak next week. >> Hashem, everybody. And I want to give a mazleab to the Adess family uh Jerry Amir Adess and to the new parent, the other grandparents uh the Rabbi Liboitz, Ari Liowitz and his wife on the birth of our great grandchild to Gabriella and Zahar Liberowitz in Tek New Jersey and Mashem. I'm coming back for the Brits and we should only have simas to celebrate. from Maine. Big big big masletoough to say the least. Malcolm homeline with us of course weekly update here at JM in the AM