Weekly Update: Nachum Segal and Malcolm Hoenlein Discuss the Latest News

Malcolm Homeline is with us. We call it the weekly update conference of presidents of major American Jewish organizations. Mr. Homeline, welcome back to JM and the AM. >> Thank you. Good to be with you these eventful days. >> Yeah. Lots going on, huh? You know what's interesting? We discussed this a little bit on the air yesterday. I I I just can't understand how a uh a government that has lost so many of its leaders in dramatic fashion over the last year and supposedly according to the United States their navy's been obliterated and their air force is down to nothing and their army and their and all these sites have been attacked etc etc and we'll talk about what's happened in the last 24 hours but all and yet they're still able to come up with a strategy and to actually carry out blockage of the Straits of Hormuz and to, you know, and to hold the United States where they want them. It's hard for me to comprehend how a government that has suffered so much militarily and strategically and again those assassinations over the last year are able nonetheless to bounce back and do what they've done over the last couple of weeks. Any explanation? fundamentally no. Uh but I mean you're raising a very valid question and I don't know how many countries in the world could take them mowing down the top leadership the second rung of leadership the third rung of leadership uh take on all the hundreds and hundreds maybe even thousands of bombing raids that took place over the last re recent years including the of course the wars this year and uh sustain it and remember it's a big country. It's being done at the price of its people who don't have food, who don't have electricity, who don't have water in a normal fashion. Yet, the country continues to move ahead. They and they could carry out the aggression that they did this week at in the straits. They had to make a hund that this would be worth it. I think it's to increase their leverage, >> right? >> And they saw that slipping away. You have not seen Mushkab. You've not seen the successor, the people not demanding to prove that he's alive. that that uh and that they fact that they could turn millions into the streets for the funeral of uh the delayed funeral of some people say they were AI they were doctor pictures but clearly there were masses in the streets but people forget it's a country of of more than 90 million people so if 10% support the government that's 9 million people that they have to draw on in addition to the coercion factor etc that to people into the streets. So, you don't judge it just by some of the pictures that come out. It doesn't take a lot to get a half a million people when you have both the uh the police and the others encouraging quote people to come out and when you have masses who who are uh supportive of the regime for whatever reasons whether it's extremists and and religious fanaticism or what other causes. What what is clear Nahim and and at the root of your question is why would they make the choice >> to go ahead and and um bomb again on and and harass the ships in the straits of >> Hermuz. >> So number one it doesn't take much for them to do that. You know, you have they have those little fast boats. They still which some of which have been eliminated, but they still haven't. America has targeted them uh in some of the attacks, but the fact is they have large numbers of them. They can do enough. You don't need an aircraft carrier. You need just those to threaten the ships and to fire missiles from on shore. Which is why if you've seen the pattern of attacks uh during the last weeks they've been hitting sites near Car Island on Car Island near the border near the water uh on the Iranian side and that they fired on towards the Oman side which is where the ships are going to bypass uh Iran. So they made a decision that they can increase their leverage. This is my speculation by uh uh and get a better deal and this was clear to the negotiators who came back to the president and said they're not really interested in making a deal and the IRGC which is taking the lead on all of this now is is of course more extreme and wants to maximize the leverage. They want to have complete control because they also want the income and the whatever blackmail you can get from uh letting ships through and not letting through or charging them quote a fee uh to to transverse the uh the straits. You know, these are all the issues. >> The problem is there's no the problem is there's no deal that'll let both sides save face. There's no deal. >> There was a deal that let both sides save face. Save face. let's say uh I don't know why America has to save face but the uh nor why it's stopped bombing but the uh the um the Iranians uh you know declared victory. They said listen you can bomb us all you want. We retain the ability to make nuclear weapons. We retain the ability to make ballistic missiles. Maybe we can't access right now all of the missiles that we had but they have the knowledge and they have the the facilities. uh you know they can rely on Russia and China to help them to some degree but to very minimal degree I think we can say that their involvement here uh has not been but they have the oil they have the the promise of the income was there and they sacrifice it >> right >> so everything it's a shortterm view of things very narrow and it's likely people who are inexperienced and that's where you see uh the price that they paid for the loss of the leadership that you have people who don't know really what they're doing who go into the negotiations, promise certain things and and sign the document and then reneg on it because they say, "Well, it's not what we intended the document to say." >> Yeah. I don't know if the prior regime would have done that any differently, but I hear you. And look, I mean, we we trust your you speak to people in Iran more than anybody else who's tuned in right now. and we trust your anecdotal evidence that there you know are so many people that are against the government would love a revolution would love a regime change etc. But let's say the 10 million as you pointed out the 10% the 9 million 10 million are in fact with the government and obviously there's a 9 or 10 million 10% that's against the government that's I think anybody would conclude that I think I think every country has that no matter what the situation is h what's your confidence level about that middle 70 million is it possible at this time and I'm drifting into this area of thinking is it possible at this time that that the majority of that 70 million really are with the current government and are not uh ready to accelerate regime change and that that number of revolutionaries or those who really want a major change in Iran is much smaller than we think. >> I think the evidence and it's limited because we don't you don't have true polling. uh we we have done some I mean people have done it and we have the results and we know that the vast majority of the people want this government to end but number one I don't think they have confidence in the west as much as they did and especially after January when tens of thousands of people perhaps 50,000 were killed and you know when 50,000 people are killed you use multiple figures to know how big the opposition really was and the so they don't have and the promise that you know we have your back we will be there for you. The West did nothing for them and continues to do nothing for them that they they lose confidence in the outside world's intervention and they're saying yes and then we're left to face the bas and the IRGC etc and and look at their families look at the danger that they feel so number one you you the vast majority of people oppose the government I I have seen studies that say 70 80 90% uh are against it. Again, we don't have necessarily reliable figures always, but but at least it's a strong indicator of where the people are at. And remember, it's not just on ideological grounds. It's because their their currency is worthless. The unemployment is raging. Uh inflation is 200%. At least, and it's probably much more than that. uh you take all the factors that impact their daily lives including the fact that you don't have water in cities like Tehran and for large times and and electricity shut offs. So quality of life and and the day-to-day life is very difficult but they're afraid they're intimidated. They they saw that that the siege can go in the street openly shoot and murder in in front of the world tens of thousands of people and there's no response. So if you're uh somebody with a family there and you're looking at the situation, you're not going to be so public anymore. You're not going to respond to the calls, you know, demonstrate and etc. because you know the reality. But you know the Kurds, all the stories about the Kurds, they remain and and as do the Awaz do as do the Azeri populations. the the the half of the country that is made up of ethnic groups uh other than the Farsy, other than the them uh they are almost uniformly against the the regime, but they're they're kept down and the uh system itself today uh is one of repression. That's what's left. You can, you know, if you have a couple hundred thousand besiege who are given rifles, they can go into the streets any time and they still arrest people all the time. Protesters, women are being arrested, not wearing the book of these things going on, but nobody's reporting it and nobody's telling about the intimidation that goes on dayto day. >> Yeah, I hear that. Uh the president of the United States this week outright said the ceasefire is over. Now, I don't know if there ever was really a ceasefire in effect. Uh but tell me about the significance now that he's declared it over. Um I I mean there has to be at this point and I know they've already demonstrated it. The United States took some military action this week, but I guess there's no other choice now but to actually um uh accelerate the war effort against Iran. >> Uh so they have done that. they we have seen the acceleration the 80 attacks a night uh and the uh fact that we're targeting military sites uh I think Sentcom the central command all along has been advocating for another round of attacks saying that they need to finish the job they asked if you remember for two more weeks right >> when the ceasefire came because they knew the things that they um you know needed to do. They hit 90 military targets in a night, including air defense systems, some of the coastal surveillance assets, which is how they monitor the shipping, missile and drone storage sites, naval capacities, uh some of the logistics infrastructure near the Iranian coast. So, but what you what it tells you is several things. One of which is how extensive the investment had been in all of these military facilities and all of this capacity that Iran uh which doesn't have an air force but put all this money into these uh uh sites and the IRGC the um SenCom attacks meaning the American attacks uh came after the the revolutionary guard said that they carried out joint missile and drone attacks against US military sites in Bahrain and Kuwait and other sites. They claim that they hit I don't know 50 military sites related to the US military presence in the region. And even the head of NATO said that the new attacks were absolutely necessary. He's been very courageous Secretary General Mark Ruth all along. He said when you have a ceasefire and Iran is violating it, it is totally crucial US respond. So the the there are and that there are still remain so many military targets to hit. In addition to the fact that a lot of the underground facilities, they're not accessible immediately, but ultimately would be and maybe they they are going after those additional sites as well. So, and and one other thing about the people, the people are tired. They're exhausted from all of this. So, what you know, the fight is being taken out of them. So, domestically, they're repressing them. And then they suffer these attacks and and yet they can claim that they're winning, that they're in control when they have no control in the air, and that the United States can challenge him in the straits because you need a long-term solution. Even if the price of oil goes up a little bit or even more than that a little bit now in the long run it will mean that it'll be much more stable situation and the shipping will be able to go through and until alternative routes are are created. It's essential. >> It's interesting that there's a report the Israelis actually are the ones who informed the US that Iran wants to assassinate President Trump. The reality though is I don't know if any other American president from I don't know if you agree with this or not. I don't know if any American president from either party would have dealt with this differently. Do you think so? >> Well, I'm not sure the Democrats, if they were in control, would have gone as far or would have resumed uh the fighting now. People want it out when you're facing a midterm election and uh I think the the commitment remains of the fact that you have ongoing negotiations. I don't always agree with the positions but the uh fact that they remain committed to the to the process I I think there are disturbing signs about you know that we we should have been let executed the rest of the uh at the time when we called the ceasefire. Uh but there are a lot of factors that go into a decision like that that which are public and a lot which are not public for um for for people to to be able to make a judgment from the outside about what what needs to be done. You know the the the negotiators clearly found that they were that they're lying to them all the time. you know the takia um philosophy or theology which allows you to lie to achieve certain ends we see it demonstrated all the time and yet they they continue to it's no different with Erdogan and and I think it's unfortunate that we talk about selling the what we are going to sell to Iran to to Turkey which is a potential Iran >> well Trump said he hasn't decided yet right >> right it's not a final decision although they they he indicated different things at different times right about >> shockingly enough. >> Yeah. But but but the um I mean obviously it's it's under discussion. Obviously it's gone a stage further during this this last visit and the embrace of Erdogan who is still behind a lot of the the stuff that's going on in Syria. Sorry. and um together with Qatar working to reestablish a Muslim Brotherhood front that would include Syria, Egypt, Libya, others, they they they want to have a counterpart, a Sunni front like the Iranian front uh Shiite front that was created with the seven countries and seven fronts against Israel that he calls that they're very disappointed with Shara not doing enough to to to confront um uh the uh the presence of Israel and the security zones that they created. And I think the you know there are American official or official or officials who who are complicit in some of these activities which is likely that will come out in the end but right now we're facing the consequences of it and people like the courage the Drews the others the Christians uh could easily be pay paying the price. >> American officials meaning white house officials or >> or Pentagon officials like >> people associated with the administration. Wow. >> And and um and by the way, you know what's interesting what you said about the fact that Israel notified >> them obviously is a reflection of the fact that that they're um you know continuing to do amazing work that the security services continue to do what they do all the time. But you you notice how the press doesn't talk about the fact that there were the sentencing of people in Europe for for assassination attempts. and the desire to u to kill people attempting to kill people because they were critics of the uh of the government a journalist for Iran National which is a not not a government uh run um station it's it's opposition station station and the fact that the the two Romanians for instance in England uh were were jailed for for stabbing a journalist this journalist was on behalf of Iran. But where's where's the condemnations? Where where's the reaction to this? >> Nobody cares >> that goes on and we don't know how many more of these kind of uh attacks there are uh going on. And second, when you you look at what's happening, for instance, in the Syrian school system, teaching jihadists and anti-Israel indoctrination in in major parts of the school systems and the all the other factors that could go on forever about in in this regard, people not getting a total picture and the reality. And then of course you have all the escapism and all the blame on Israel for for everything from Charlie Kirk to to being responsible for the Iranian thing. Noah planes from Israel took part in the raids this week. It was clearly it was an American SenCom operation. So, nobody's pulling the strings to make these things happen. And the the conspiracy theories and not standing uh reality is that America and Israel have the same objectives. >> I have a question about that. It's America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program. heard a listener sponsored digital radio around the world the web single.com we're going to of course the beloved NSN app Malcolm homeline with us weekly update time and I think what you just said in in a way was proven by the enemy and this may sound really crazy but uh Iranians this week in response they attacked bases in Bahrain right that was one and where was the other one >> uh not the UA >> and Kuwait right Kuwait >> they're not even they're not even and believe me friends and relatives in Israel were afraid that they're going to have to head into shelters overnight the last couple of nights. Thank God they did not have to. And I think is that an acknowledgement by the enemy that this is really Iran versus the US right now and Israel's out of it. So, first of all, there were missiles fired at Jordan, which we believe were probably aiming at Israel. >> Uh although we have because America has military presence in Jordan, that that could have been the target. there's clearly targeting countries with American bases, American resources and uh they claimed that they hit 50 American facilities not just in the two countries but in others as well during the past week, let alone during the weeks before. So the uh I know that the that six of the missiles to Jordan were were shot down and then two additional ones I mean the landed none of them uh did did damage and whether they were really aiming at Israel. Now, number one, it could say that their ability to fire long range ballistic missiles is limited and that in fact the bombing took out most of the missiles that they had uh remaining after the attacks on Israel and that they're not able to replace them so that they don't have the long range missiles to open up the front on Israel. The second thing is that they're trying to put the pressure on American public opinion. They know that there's a midterm election coming also. So if you have body bags or and and damage like the they portray of American facilities and American uh service people that will build up domestic pressure on on the US. Uh so it is it's tactical decisions I think on their part. the um uh but the missile question is one that I've also thought about and I I hope the answer is that they they just don't have a lot and they're saving them >> for an attack on Israel, >> right? Because if they do start a rocket attack, a missile attack on Israel, it's got to be significant. They they can't >> and it means that Israel will respond and we'll join the US. >> That's why I'm saying as you just said, you know, five five missiles ain't going to be enough. Israel is not going to tolerate it. They're going to if they're going to respond properly, quote unquote, from their point of view, they're going to have to, you know, start with hundreds of missiles and maybe the supply is running short. Who knows? All right, the AP poll, let me read a couple of these things and get your reaction. Um, so this is uh over a thousand Jewish adults nationwide. 44% view Mandani very or somewhat favorably compared to 32% for Netanyahu. This was the headline that US Jews view Mandani more favorably than Netanyahu. And then some of the typical stuff on Palestinian statethood basically, you know, results that you'd expect. Uh arming or not arming kamas, whether Israel committed genocide. I'm glad to see that 50% said no. I consider that a major victory in the polls. Um and of course um complete disapproval over 70% uh for Donald Trump, for the president of the United States. So Mandani versus Netanyahu. Maybe you could at the same time that you're addressing this poll, maybe at the same time you could give us your review, your reaction to Rahm Emanuel's presentation in Tel Aiv this week. >> Okay. So, uh, first of all, about the poll, polls can be made to say whatever you wanted to say. They don't say they say a national survey of a thousand Jews out of out of six million. and uh and if they went to LA and they went to the Upper West Side for the thousand people, that's why you would get the results. I do not believe that that's a valid reflection of where uh the American Jewish community is. I've not seen any evidence from another source that would uh justify it. Is there, you know, growing resentment? Is there a leftwing tilt uh uh against Israel on in places? Yes. I mean, there's no doubt about it. We saw it in in some of the recent elections, but it does not reflect that that kind of of a lopsided result. Uh so I think we we need to have some real testing and to see is Netanyahu popular today in America as he once was. No. But if you're targeted every single day by every media, virtually every media and by with a few exceptions obviously and by and by the you know the political left and center left uh constantly and everybody's saying you know we're not against Israel, we're against Netanyahu. It's not you got to be against Netanyahu. Netanyahu is an evil force etc etc. And you do that day in day out year after year it's it's bound to have an impact. So people, you know, can say they don't want to say they're against Israel, so they say they're against Netanyahu, >> right? >> And so that's one. Two, um, uh, about Rahm Emanuel is a reflection of the same thing. Guy wants to run for president. He's trying to position himself. He's is nowhere's in the polls. And, and so he goes and he makes all of these announcements before the speech. He builds it up. And what is it that he says? I'm gonna attack Netanyahu. I'm going to say that he's responsible. And so, you know, you build up because unfortunately the press in Israel, a lot of it is very anti- Netanyahu, very leftist and will will snap at the opportunity to pick up a quote presidential candidate. How many Americans do you think if you interviewed them would say that Rahm Emanuel, they see Rahm Emanuel as a presidential candidate? Five people, 10 people. I mean, it it's not true. he's not he's he's being muted now because they want to build up what what he said. And so he knows that to get the notice and to be able to distinguish himself in the Democratic pack by saying, you know, I'm I'm of Israeli uh descent and I I you know, I'm above reproach and I'm attacking him so that he gains and he tries to to mute the impact potentially of his Israeli background uh for the presidential race because he knows in the Democratic party it's not popular. So, what's better than go to Israel, make announcements one after another what you're going to do to to attack uh Netanyahu, know that you're going to get a lot of press. I mean, there are a lot of important people who go to Israel. Nobody gets the kind of press he got for for this uh this attack. >> And I can imagine kind of Israeli press he got. >> Of course, it's very positive because but but it's because of the scandalous nature of what what he says and what he does. >> No, that I haven't heard him I haven't heard him out there. so viciferously, you know, defending Israel after October 7th and and in the and during the wars. >> Yeah. I mean, this was Yeah. very Schumerlike. You know, he's going to do what he needs to do in order to prove to his party that he's as anti Netanyahu as possible or anti Netanyahu's policies. Yet another reason where I'd be so curious to see what would happen if someone else was prime minister, but we don't have to go down that road. Although yesterday we did discuss how once uh Shimei at Seris ends, it's going to be a rough three, four weeks in Israel till they get to election day. It is going to be >> Yeah. And the leadup to that. I I agree with you. I'm very worried about a very divisive election. As you know, now uh uh what's his name? Julie Edelstein and the former minister of justice have joined uh created a new party. There are others that will create a new party. Um you see that the dist distribution of votes right now doesn't give anybody the opposition or the government a block maybe a block that is sufficient to get over the 60 votes. um you know depend a lot on where the religious parties and uh others and who's willing to count in the the uh Arab parties uh and the um you know and the sh the the numbers are going to shift dramatically and as you said it's going to be very hotly contested and and then there's the flavor of the day now Eisen was in for a while now it's E is Kott and we'll see how long that lasts and how he really can do when tested in the campaign and can can come up with new policies new direction. He's never run anything before. I mean, he ran the army, but he doesn't run in political sense. I mean, uh, so it's a new challenge for him. He's very smart, they say, and, uh, capable. Uh, we'll see. It'll be tested, but we've seen these kind of flashes before. It's true Netanyahu has lost some of the support within Liquid and outside, but, you know, we never know. As they say, Israelis tell the truth to pollsters and then lie at the polls. >> It's amazing how he would not be with all the times he was invited, including recently. I don't remember exactly what month, but it's not that long ago he was invited to Congress to give a speech. Nobody would do that now. I don't think anybody Republican or Democrat would invite him now. >> He is going to come uh likely. They had a conversation last night, the president and Netanyahu, about the Iranian situation. I think the president appreciated the a warning about the threat to his life. I mean that's the kind of thing he would react to u and and the fact that you know he said it publicly without acknowledging Israel but just saying about the threats against him uh which should be enough to get anybody angry and and understand the nature of the threat that nobody's beyond the Iranians reach if they can they can get to them. Um, so I think Netanyahu will come here maybe in even the before the end of July and then because in August people go on vacation and uh you don't want to get it too close then to the primaries in Israel and to the so >> so the last second half of July >> window of opportunity he'll be in Washington the second half of July. Wow. >> I think I think so. And then but remember he's also coming in September for the UN General Assembly. So two visits you know in too close proximity even in Israel doesn't sell well uh when people want him around. And he's only going to come he wants to come for one day to the UN. And unfortunately right now he's scheduled I think on a Friday. So he would have to spend too many days here uh and uh because it's also Sukkot. So he he's I think he wants to do it closer to the beginning which is uh on Yumkipper the day after Yum Kipper. >> Wow. >> Uh Yum Kipper is on a Monday. Yes. I guess uh >> so I think they start that Monday. I think the UN starts. >> Oh, so you were saying that Friday erra of Sukus it looked like was his first uh was that >> that was the date that was what the first round was. >> Oh boy. I'll tell you. And during an election season, you can't be away that long, >> right? Uh I just wonder if in fact all this continues with military action against Iran by the US on a nightly basis, semi- nightly basis, whatever it is. I wonder what the reaction how much stronger it'll be against him if he walks into this country. Like I just wonder if the, you know, because so many blame him and blame Israel obviously for any military action that the United States is involved with in that in that region, especially with Iran. if he's here. I wonder if that's just gonna really stoke the fire really, you know. >> Um, >> well, they blame Israel for everything anyway. So, it doesn't matter whether anything's actually going on because it's creating mythology. I have to tell you something funny that that I spoke this week at the Christians United for Israel uh conference, which is, as I tell everybody, the most amazing of the year that >> you were at the uh you were at the Monday night BB event when he called in. >> I was there. I was there for the from Sunday. We had an event. The hundreds of Jews who came this year and many of them are religious Jews and they will tell you what an amazing experience. You walk away from there a better Jew and more committed because you see people who are so totally devoted and express it in in such magnetic ways. I'm telling you when I go up there and speak every I swear I'm not going to get excited but it pulls you. It's like a magnet. They are amazing how intense and and they had a bigger turnout this year than they've had for several years they uh the it's just amazing and the array of speakers was so impressive and to see the the level of support the people who who are with Israel non-Jews one after another who got up there to speak and of course some Jews but I met with a group of the young people who came uh after my speech and um they had all sorts of questions they wanted to ask and one of them and I told him that I don't mention Mani's name. >> Oh, I just said it. But I don't talk I don't say M's name. That's what I said in my speech. And um because I he wants that he wants us to attack him. He wants us to to continue to make him the foil and raise his profile, etc. So one of the these students came over to me and he said, "You know what? You ought to call him the Grand Muy of New York." M >> I said that's amazing. So everybody is free to take it from now on. We refer to him as the Grand Muy. >> That is a good one. And uh I I assume you saw or saw the review of his Fourth of July speech. >> I did. >> And the bombs made it into the speech, Malcolm. >> Yes. and and and and and his wife's involvement in this horrible conference. I mean, there's no limit to to to it. and the they add insult to insult and the the things that he's uh willing to acknowledge and not willing to acknowledge and yet he's you got to admit he's got an amazing PR operation that every little decision that that he can gets him in front of the people and saying oh I'm you know I'm working on your things as if he's doing something constructive and uh how much money is being invested in infrastructure you know community organizing infrastructure that they will translate to their polit political benefit and the and and you know they they always uh coded in in in saying it's community engagement and things like that. When you find out how much money is being spent on at a time when the city doesn't have money and claim to have balanced the budget when in fact it's a bailout from the state and they get away with so much that it it's it's just incredible. >> Yeah. No question about it. Boy, what a difference a year makes, huh? I'm just thinking I'm just thinking back to my Netanyao point, how he wouldn't be invited to Congress now. Like, it's just it's he was the most popular guy for God knows how long. I mean, this was a, you know, love affair that went on for a very long time. And it's going to be very interesting to see what happens if Netanyahu comes to New York, as he said he is, for the UN to give the speech at the UN General Assembly. and the mayor's promised that he will arrest him if he comes to New York and and when asked about it when he was pressed on about it and I saw when I was in Israel some of the reports saying that he said it's you know creating a dilemma and it's going to be very problematic and um you know essentially saying he wish he didn't come uh well which I'm sure he wishes he didn't come that um uh we'll see it this could set up a very interesting confrontation I do not believe the NYPD is about to arrest Netanyahu I don't believe the people in New York want to see him arrested. >> Yeah, but he's doubling down. He keeps mentioning how there's a an international warrant for his arrest. >> That the ICC the going to honor it. >> But the fact that he's bringing it up, the fact that that's what he keeps hammering home worries me. >> Well, because it justifies what he's doing. It's, you know, it's the cover that he said, "Well, I'm not against it. I'm just enforcing international law by doing it." But I I think that the federal government wouldn't allow it to happen. And it's I think it's a it's a federal decision when and when people are invited to the UN. Remember all the Iranian outlaws that came and all of the terrorists who who came to speak because they were covered but they weren't allowed to go beyond 25 miles of the UN, >> right? >> But but they were allowed to come with a few exceptions. Uh even Arafat was allowed to come. So, uh I don't think it's really in his decision, but he will grandstand it again to promote his national profile and the uh you know the um uh his his stand as the leader of the anti-Israel forces. And as he sees it, it gets greater leverage in the uh in the Democratic party. And I'm sure maybe he'll hire Grant Platner to be a uh an assistant or something as a PR guy. I hear >> and chief oyster man in the thing and and there are interesting revelations that are coming out about partner's family and stuff that um even ties to Israel. So it's it's so it's too strange. This world is so weird. >> Positive ties to Israel. >> Pardon me. >> Positive ties to Israel. >> A a relative who uh >> ah simply somebody who's related to him from Israel. Yeah. I I hear he's in need of a job now, so maybe he will go work for Amdani. Who knows? >> They say that the family has money, so it's okay. He'll be all right. >> But it is, you just said it. You just said it. How crazy it is. How crazy it is. That may be the theme of this whole discussion, how different things are and how things change and how the populace has such a different attitude toward all these things. Now, we remember a time when the average American citizen had a certain point of view and now you can't depend on that anymore. >> You can't. And despite the fact that you have such an abundance of information and we warned about this with but it's not responsible information, you can create anything that the immediate response to any crisis is Israel did it when it has no relationship to Israel, no involvement of Israel. and and and yet young people buy into the lies, the distortions and blame Israel becomes then the the um fallback position on every issue. It's it's just astonishing that people forget it's a country of 10 million and they really believe that it's it's manipulating and and the fact that Apac has become the target in all of these elections when it's simply Americans not foreign money it's American money Americans say g giving expression to their political views the the maza money that is coming in from all all sorts of countries Qatar and Iran and uh others Saudi Arabia and all them manipulating our campuses manipulating our political processes and our economy that nobody even talks about when there is when there are uh negative associations. There's no negative association with what Israel what Americans who are expressing their views in a political election. There's no no takeover. There's no goal here. Whereas the Islamists continue to advocate to take over America. >> So true. Uh thank you. Uh have a wonderful Shabas. We'll speak please God next week. >> God willing. have a good job as >> Malcolm Homeline everybody weekly update 7:40 a.m. Eastern time each Friday here at JM in the A.M.