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okay hi everybody and again I hope you
all had a wonderful uh and
liberating and now of course we're
already in the period looking forward
towards the
next and I'm not going to talk about SP
tonight I'll leave that for a little
later
uh but makes the very clear point that
the purpose of is to create a linkage
between the holiday of freedom and the
holiday of commitment to Hashem to as it
as if it were one long holiday to teach
us that without Matan Torah freedom is
worthless because I'll make the same
point when they note that the corbon of
the OM and PES is a barley offering
which was commonly fed to animals
and the Corbin of shabos is a wheat
offering which was eaten by human beings
because the transition from freedom to
responsibility is really the transition
from Human from animal Liberation to
human human dignity and that is why we
have the SP om which is a linkage now
one question people ask is if if that
linkage is so important why don't you
start counting the OM the first night of
PES and there are a number of answers
that are given but but I want to tell
you an answer that the zor says zor says
a fascinating analogy the zor says that
shos is like a wedding it is like a
between Hashem and the Jewish people
that many of them in huging of a wedding
are derived from mat the Torches the col
Etc and we know that uh before a woman
can in fact
smart many of at all instead of reading
AK which is a poem in AR that we read
before the
reading actually has a I don't know if
you've ever seen it or heard of it in
which it's written in the same style as
a marriage contract in which hasem is
the
and and all of the obligations and
responsibilities between husband and
wife are proclaimed so Shas is a wedding
now the Z says if shabas is a wedding
then just as a woman must have seven
clean days days without menual bleeding
before she could be with her husband so
we have seven weeks of preparation each
week is equal to one of the seven clean
days now we know though that you don't
start the seven clean days until there's
What's called the HEC Tara so he says
the first day of PES we can't count as a
totally clean day because we were still
in Mitra at the beginning we still had
the Tuma so the first day of PES is the
he tahara and then we start counting the
seven clean weeks the day after and that
is what the zo says is the concept of
spat om as I say that was not my topic
for tonight my topic for tonight might
be one of the most
technical in all of the Torah and the
Torah gives an extraordinary amount of
detail here and the Torah gives an
extraordinary amount of detail here and
that is the laws of Le
the laws ofat know it's quite amazing if
you were to count the number of Pim that
are devoted to
shabas to
kashus to believe in Hashem you know the
fundamental ideas of Judaism so you
might get you know 20 verses 30 verses
for any one of those topics the amount
of suim devoted to leprosy and all of
its many types and all of its many uh
combinations and permutation
is like 100 verses extremely detailed
very very difficult even people who have
learned in Yesa for many years uh have
difficulty just figuring out what on
Earth is even going on here uh and the
like now why the Torah gives such
inordinate detail to S by the way I'm
using leprosy you understand that um
that is not really the modern
disease that used to be it's not even
calleda lepr Hansen's Disease used to be
referred to leprosy when you have LEP
colonies and all of that uh does not
correspond uh to the torah's description
of Saras in fact the closest thing that
corresponds to the torah's description
of sorat is the word
psoriasis which is actually a Greek
version of SAS and it clearly was a skin
condition that is how it is described
but as the rambam points out and the ram
of course himself was a doctor it is not
primar a medical condition it is rather
a
spiritual punishment that God would put
on a person which would have a physical
manifestation because of various sins
and defects of character that are within
the person and thatal emotional does
bring out skin dis yes okay that could
very well be so but but it is a
spiritual message in fact the ran know
you've done this wrong and that wrong
yes the ramban points out the ramban
points out that
SAS is a mini form of Prophecy in which
God is giving a person direct feedback
as to what they need to correct in their
lives and that is why the ran says
interestingly enough when you no longer
have prophecy you no longer get those
direct messages so even though SAS is
certainly unpleasant and SAS is a great
stigma and there's a humiliation in
being separated from people and the like
but actually it is a form of prophetic
feedback you I remember when I taught
Law School uh for many years so you know
uh in law school I don't know I don't
know what they do in Israel but in at
least in American law schools there's
only one test at the end of the semester
right we don't give quizzes or anything
in the middle so students can go through
a whole semester they really they really
don't have a sense of feedback they
often ask you know give us feedback and
a person might say to Hashem you know
give me feedback how am I doing God am I
good am I now when there was man there
was feedback do you know that with
man uh the righteous people had their M
right next to their tent and the people
who were less righteous had to look for
their M now you might ask me a question
so if I'm next to AIC why don't I just
take his M it's right there the answer
is I didn't see it this is the miracle
in other words it's not like you looked
at the whole desert it was covered with
mud if I was not a righteous person I
looked I didn't see anything so I'm just
walking around looking you know looking
around for for my month so that that's a
report card meaning if you huh you you
would you just wouldn't know you just
wouldn't know it kind of uh assimilated
to the ground uh so to speak so it's
quite so that was a daily report card
you know how far did you have to go to
get your MTH SAS is also a report card
what type of defects now we know Saras
comes in different varieties there's
Saras of the flesh there SAS of
garments there's SAS of houses kind of
like mold in your basement and the like
and K basically say that SAS of the
flesh comes because
of where you speak evily about
people a person who says bad things
about others uh we know of comes because
of arrogance excessive Pride because
clothing is often an expression of our
pride and finally theat of the B comes
from that means an over attachment
huh I didn't hear
you well it's it's described in the
Torah now kazal actually say there is
there are no recorded cases of this
happening what is it it's it it's kind
of you have like a leprosy on the
Garment on the Garment itself and
there's a procedure in which you cut it
away and then if it comes back you got
to burn the Garment uh with a house
there again a procedure you cut it away
and if it comes back you destroy the
house literally the house is literally
destroyed say again then you find gold
in the wall yeah well that's actually
part of the point part of the point was
that um because you were self selfish
with your possessions God makes you
expose them to everybody and then they
see how selfish you were so there's a
Penance now one point about us that is
very unique and that is uh the the leper
is isolated he
goes this is very unusual a normal T
like even a t of from a dead body is not
allowed to enter the Temple Mount but he
can certainly be with people the MS must
be
quarantined now although it is tempted
temp uh tempting to look at this as you
know a public health concern for
communicable diseases but the rambam
himself explains the only communicable
disease we are concerned about is lashar
itself meaning Sarat is not uh a
contagious medical condition uh but
there is a mid mid here because
a creates
divisiveness P separation between people
we want him to understand what it's like
to be alone I remember when I was in um
they used to call it Junior High now
it's called medal middle middle school
you know seventh grade sixth or seventh
grade so there was a short story that we
read a a man without a country I don't
know if you if you ever read it so the
concept was this was you know some story
that goes back to the time of Aaron Burr
you know this early Revolution against
the United States government and uh one
of Burr's
collaborators uh you know said he you
know he said to the judge that you know
he thinks this is an unfair court and he
wishes he'll never see the United States
again so his Gaza was that he would be
on a ship and he would never hear
anything about the United States the
newspapers were Etc and then the the the
the message of the story was how much he
yearned to be connected and that's what
we tell the person you know the power of
speech is amazing M
says death and life I'm in the hands of
the tongue the medish gives a very cute
story the story but all the different
limbs of the body we're arguing who is
more dominant the arm says I'm the one
that lips stay and the legs say I'm the
one that you know runs and you know Etc
so finally the tongue says nope I'm
better than all of you so they started
mocking the tongue and they said hey you
don't even have a bone you can't even
stand up you're Li Crown yeah what type
of power you know do you have so the
tong said I'll tell you so uh this body
I guess it's a serpent is in front of
the king and the tongue starts saying
abusive things to the king you're a real
jerk stupid the king says up with your
head so now all the limbs are afraid the
limbs are saying to the tongue get us
out of this trouble you know you put us
in this big trouble and the tongue
apologized and the King forgave Etc uh
must be nice King to forgive uh so he
said you see I could kill you and I
could give you life and again this is a
mus because death in life has many many
meanings it's not simply a question of
physical survival or physical death but
a person could be killed inside with
humiliation with pain with the emotional
torments of the unkind words that are
expressed by people and on the other
side speech is a vehicle for comfort and
for the strength that we have the power
in our words to give a person hope
person courage right so all of that is
death and life are in the hands of the T
question if if indeed as uh theat that
we read about in our parti is a
spiritual and not a medical condition
then why does tanak use the same word to
describe the Affliction of General Nama
who was a gentile no no no it is let me
point out it certainly is a physical
condition we're not we're not denying
that it is it is described as a physical
condition but it is a physical condition
that is a punishment from God because of
a spiritual Affliction are Gentiles
subject to it generally not n was
actually an unusual situation God wanted
to show Alisha's power of Miracles Etc
so n was put it typically is not not
dtive that in that way now uh here is
the by the here is the thing I want to
go over there are many types of SAS
indicated there is the basic three-fold
classification is person clothing
houses within person there are further
subdivisions there is what you called no
pun intended the plain vanilla Saras of
the Flesh and then there's special rules
of Saras if it's in a hairy area of the
body like the beard and then there's a
another rule is on top of the head and
then there's yet another rule when it
comes after a burn or after a boil
different set of rules right we have
many many ways this is sliced up and uh
to go over even the description of this
would be much more complicated we don't
we don't have time to this at all but I
want to take plain vanilla and and go
through it and show you that even in the
most technical Arcane parts of the Torah
there are wonderful spiritual lessons
that we learn and we can
apply what happens here a person has a
white splutch on his arm on his skin
this does not apply today he
is he or she
is to go to the Coan the Coen is the
referee what do the referee say it ain't
to strike until I call it a strike or
whatever it is SAS is exactly that way
SAS cannot become Saras no matter what
the condition is until the Coen
proclaims it as such so you have an
obligation to report to the Coen and the
Coen has an obligation to call it in
accordance with the but if he doesn't
call it satat it is not satat yet that
is why we have
an that there are certain times of year
in which in fact this is actually the
ROM's proof that this is not a
contagious disease you'll see because
there are certain times of year where
the coin is not allowed to Proclaim it
as
s that is during
a the not Proclaim satat right the
office ofat is closed because if a
person were to become a during
even that would take away from the joy
of the if get married and for some
reason there's Sarat that develops
during the seven days of M the seven
days of Celebration we don't Proclaim
SAR now the ram argues quite
convincingly that if SAR would be an
issue of contagious
disease what sense does that make I'm
not going to I'm going to allow you to
infect other people because you know we
don't want to take away your happy
occasion obviously it's not a contagious
disease in that way it's a spiritual
punishment and God says at various times
we want to defer the punishment so you
can enjoy the honeymoon or the Sim or
the or the or or or whatever is okay but
let's assume that no no the person has a
white Splash so if it's a certain size
and a certain color so step number one
is he is quarantined for seven days at
the end of the seven days on day seven
the Coen inspects it's called the Nega
the Nega is
theat and looks for one of three things
that might have happened either had
there been a black hair let's say in the
arm that turned white other words what
starts off the process is the appearance
of the Nega that's just the splot but
then the Coen has to look for one of
three
s of
Tuma Simon number one is a black hair
turned
white or Simon number two is the Nea
grew
bigger so the Coen has to measure San
number three is maybe counterintuitive
that sounds like something good is mik
mik means in the middle of the
there is the appearance of healthy
flesh if either one of those three
things happens he is upgraded or
downgraded into a definitive M who can't
get out of that condition till he brings
sacrifices and everything else now let's
say on day seven he still has the Nega
but he does not have one of those
three we wait another
week and on day 14
actually it's day 13 because day seven
overlaps on day 13 we once again the co
not we the Cohen once again looks for
one of those three
s right the black hair turning white the
Nega going bigger or the appearance of
health is quaran during this time yes he
is he is he is if he has on day 13
because day seven is both the end of the
first period the beginning of the second
period then once again he is upgraded or
downgraded into a definitive M who will
not leave that status until he brings
sacrifices but what if on day
13 he still has the he has he has
the he
has but he doesn't have one of the
three he goes home and he's fine he
doesn't need sacrifices there is no re
ual that he needs at all even though the
Sarat actually didn't disappear still
there now the technical term for this is
that the two weeks the 13 days of
quarantine he's all quarantine he is
called a musar muskar comes from sag
he's closed closed off but he's not
yet right is when he's definitive so in
order to in order to graduate from a
musar to a
you have to have one of the three of T
and we only check twice meaning we we
really don't care if if for example the
Nega grew bigger in the middle of the
seven days but we didn't see the growth
as we only checked day seven and day 13
we ignore interim fluctuations if there
would be any uh but the only way you
become
a is with one of the T so I'm using the
vocabulary here
uh on either day seven or day 13 without
the s t the maximum quarantine is 13
days and upon the expiration of that
period if there's no s Tuma he goes home
even though he still has the ne got
surra we don't know how long that's
about to say that could be a very long
it might be the rest of his life it
might be another week you know whatever
it would be uh but at that point we do
not apply
there is no longer a quarantine he no
longer contaminates uh that which he
touches yeah now if if for example he
has it three months later some of these
SE appear it doesn't matter oh no it
certainly doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah in a way in a way it's a Time
b in a sense because even though we let
him go everybody brought it up even
though we let him go on day 13 if
there's no Simon Tuma if that SAS does
not go away if at any time it grows
bigger or the turns or there's
M he's a full he's immediately a full
see it's very technical if the SAS
disappeared and then he gets it again we
start the process over again
really in other words the two weeks but
if the SAS didn't go away if you get any
of the S Tuma even 10 years later
although it's not likely with he's a
immediately you skip the how would we
know would he be obligated yeah so
there's an O now again you're correct it
would be relatively easy for a guy to
always covered this up when the huh when
was this it's basically the B the Bas
base on English this is a form of pracy
so uh when the temple was
destroyed yeah yeah uh he has a duty to
report that you're correct you know
there might be all sorts of boras out
there who didn't fulfill
their recording obligation if you didn't
see it you didn't notice it if it's a
part of your arm that you w know no
mirrors so so if if another family
member saw it it's their duty to report
it it would have to be recorded it would
have to be recorded again now you know I
don't have the statistics how many
people reported it I don't have
statistics at all how many people were
were M but this is the theoretical
structure so the three terms you need to
know
is
musar
and to give you a little bit more
vocabulary the
three the hair white uh the expansion
the Torah uses the
word in the mishna it's called
this is the term
for and the healthy flesh is called in
the
Torah
living living flesh healthy flesh so
this
yeah so the person who had all these
signs or one ofs gives the carbon and
goes home no no no no no no no two no no
once he has these Sons he remains a m
until it goes away and when it goes away
he brings a car he does not go home till
it goes away at that at that point he is
stuck so he could be a m for a long time
again typically it didn't have to be
that long but whatever it took so
obviously we're dealing with Hyper
technical laws
and uh as I say it's not only the that
gives extraordinary detail uh I once saw
an interesting explanation from Rabbi
Sal Burman some of you might know the
rabbi of he had been the rabbi of BL
square and now I don't know what he just
a law professor right now uh but he gave
an interesting point it's kind of a
legal perspective I I kind of identified
as well that is he said like this he
says that the reason that to goes into
so much Det
is precisely because the Torah wants
there to be
transparency when it gives such a power
to another person over your life the
coin is given extraordinary power right
the co determine on S whatever it is
that can really affect my life in a very
very deep way but the Torah doesn't want
that to be a black box the Torah doesn't
want
authority to have power over you unless
you know exactly step by step by step
what they're going to be doing to
meaning it's not like a secretive
process oh if the coing looks at you and
thinks you're another if the Torah
wouldn't give you the detail then there
would be no check on abuses of power the
Torah would simply say if a CO thinks
you're a m you're a m without spelling
out in excruciating detail what the
standards are there is a great potential
for abuse of power and therefore in
order to limit abuse the Torah opts for
a
transparency of exactly what the Coen
must do so if a Coen is abusing his
power we or the or whoever would be able
to determine that uh again that that has
an interesting I don't want to get too
political that is an interesting analogy
in the way sometimes is done
today in an ideal sense should also be a
relatively transparent process the PO
should give the reason
and the sources and the arguments so we
have a sense of what's going on what
often happens today is they tend to be
to use another religion analogy EX
cathedra pronouncements in which we
simply see a wall poster usually it
doesn't even say who the rabbi is just
says the great rabbis have
declared that the internet is forbidden
or that you're not allowed to go to
therapy I've seen that as well therapy
is yeah
doesn't say doesn't say who the rabbis
are that doesn't even say uh huh RAB
well yeah something like that yeah so uh
this is kind of the opposite of kind of
explaining what the basis
of well may not be at all but but again
I understand the issue I mean some have
argued again this is this is a an
interesting issue that that sometimes uh
if a rabbi tries to
explain uh that may cause understanding
meaning sometimes
people just listen you know just do it
don't don't ask why okay you know one
could one could could could discuss this
I mean I I I know in myself I I've
sometimes encountered uh uh that in
trying to explain something perhaps that
sometimes maybe even tonight that may
create more confusion than clarification
tot doesn't that there doesn't a
comparison also suggest there should be
a process
suppose I say know look this Co didn't
wasn't wearing his glasses he's I don't
I want I want another going is there an
option
well there's not an option of going to
another Coen but but it would appear
that the coen's Judgment because
remember the Coen might not even be a
learned person right the coin's judgment
is subject to huic review by the
Sanhedrin and the like determine whether
he was following the proper standards so
technically the Sanhedrin cannot
proclaim a person to be a Ms or not a Ms
but they can
supervise the propriety of the decision
making of the of the coing yeah okay
so as
a puzzled and challenged
going
yeah better learn
um some of
these you know this whole system seems
so primitive for modern thinking and
almost at risk for false accusation
which is a major violation because the
connection there skin problems that are
not connected to spiritual problems that
could be dietary or I I just wonder if
people were fely
something the law seems too you know
clearly we have an understanding now
skin conditions yes this system seems to
lack compassion now that really is a
very very excellent question and that
is no no the the question becomes this
the question becomes now it's like
everybody has so much of their own gu
whatever like coin so you're saying we
have the spiritual
problem yeah no the the question becomes
I mean that that is a very good question
I don't have a complete answer to this
that is is there some room in the
structure to weed out uh physical
problems from spiritual problems meaning
to say uh would the laws of Saras kick
in only if it be determined there is not
an underlying you know medical medical
condition and it just comes from the
heaven so to speak uh if I have to admit
if you read the literally uh there does
not seem to be a weeding out process for
that but that would be that would be a
very very interesting question I want to
think about it some more but except
there for the very reason that there are
these three seon yeah it would seem that
if it were something totally different
yeah it could be the SE maybe
the what of
those seem could OCC in a medical
condition yeah the expansion the
expansion yeah you're right right you're
right you're right you're right it's a
good question but let me share with you
the general thought that I I want to
convey that I want to convey this idea
of the three of Tuma and the fact that
if they don't exist he goes home even
with the SAS and that is f the ultimate
spiritual message uh of the MS is we put
him in isolation so he should
contemplate the damage that he's
perpetuated
through and it should be a time of Chua
and
reflection the Simon of Tuma is ESS God
telling the person you have not really
gone through the process properly that
is the following when a person is
confronted with his sin right whatever
it is in life when we finally are
confronted with different things we did
wrong the pain that we cause the people
that we hurt the damage that we've
done we look for all sorts of
rationalizations all sorts of Escape
Routes all sorts of evasions of
responsibility
and the S
tum allegorically or
metaphorically may represent the range
of rationalizations and excuses that a
person
experiences which is why God says you
got to go back into quarantine and
rethink the first thing we might do is
something called denial we might refuse
to accept we did anything the guy
deserved it the guy was ratten the guy
didn't behave nobody lik any
way that might refer to
whitewashing the evil of my behavior
denial the white hair the black hair
turning white right this common speech
we say when a person denies wrongdoing
they're engaging in a white
watching process so this if the S laan
appear right the Nega is the warning to
the person look at your life and try to
correct it the S laan is saying well you
been in quarantine 7 days or 13 days the
hair is white you have not yet accepted
responsibility for your actions you are
in a state of denial go back and reflect
that might be the allegorical meaning of
the acknowledge and take
responsibility now the second
response might actually come from the
other way around that is
sometimes a person has such an excessive
guilt and such a strong sense of their
in adies and
failures that they feel that any
positive change is hopeless and
impossible this is a term we use Yos is
give up
hope right a person is overly consumed
with their failures their inadequacy
they say I have reached the point of no
return despair despair that is p the
expansion of the Nega where the person
says what's the use I've sinned I might
as well continue there's no way I can
correct it's the opposite of denial but
it comes from a hyper sense of guilt
inadequacy and despair you know with
other marish we find a very interesting
thing when adish eats from the the
a so right so ad and are hiding because
they're naked and said of course knows
the answer says who told you that you're
naked guys there's nothing wrong with
being naked why are you
ashamed uh did you perhaps eat from the
fruit that I told you not to eat from is
that what's going on so says remarkable
he says yeah the woman that you gave
me gave me the fruit I mean not he he's
evading responsibility twice he's saying
it's the woman's fault and you gave me
that woman so don't blame me but there's
a third Defence that the
reads which we translate as can also be
I will eat and according to the
m
say I'll do it again now that's kind of
an astounding statement I did it I'll do
it again I would do it again what is
that ad is telling hasem that so some
suggest it's a much more poignant
statement he's not saying it to God to
fight he said to God I messed up I'm
such a
failure I did it and I know it's going
to happen again I don't know what to
do I'm
trapped that's say the person's attitude
is what's the use I might as well
continue I've gone beyond the point of
no return that's
P so again the message is oh you have
not done the proper reflection go back
and think about that in other words the
Simon Tuma essentially is the message
the person that he's not yet begun the
process as he needs to begin it and
that's why he's now there's a third
response
person which you might call emotional
distancing meaning he knows he's not a
hypocrite meaning he realized he did
something wrong but he just doesn't want
to think about it now maybe he doesn't
want to think about it because if he
thinks about it they'll become category
number two and live in despair but he
creates what you might call an emotional
distance
in between himself and the problem I
just don't want it to penetrate my ious
waking hours I don't want to think I
want to repress it of course as fre said
that is the cause of all sorts of
neurosis and cytosis and and the like
but repression is the
common about sweeping the dust under the
Right video where like there was a pile
of like the rug was 30t above the floor
that's under under the L but this is not
see this is different than the
whitewashing the whitewashing is when I
lie to myself and I convince myself that
my behavior was justified the third
standard is when I simply don't allow
myself to dwell on it and that's
represented by the M you're surrounded
by rocks all over you but you don't let
it penetrate your inner your inner core
as it were so the three
Tuma represent the three forms of denial
and equivocation
that we go through in order not to
accept responsibility and the reason why
they make us T is because the whole
purpose of the quarantine is to engage
in this type of reflection and this is
God's report card you have completed now
M if after the two weeks or the 13 days
there are not
the so one of two things are possible
perhaps as you suggested that indicates
just a medical problem or perhaps even
if it was a spiritual issue but Hashem
is saying you've worked on yourself
enough that you could go home and
continue your Reflections you don't have
to be in this protective and confining
environment now what's interesting is
you know we just
finished we just finished P we know of
course
that the great prohibition of p is not
to have right only mat
so if you think about it these we know
that is to
the but if you think about it these
three forms of denial actually
correspond to different aspects of as
well right one aspect of is well known
probably the best wellknown aspect is is
puffed up represents arrogance and GBA
and arrogance and GBA comes along withal
if I give excuses for my
beh in other words if I whitewash if I
in a sense defend the bad things that I
did by defining them as good that is
generally characteristic of an arrogant
person who refuses to acknowledge with
humility that they have made
mistakes now another aspect of
maral
mat
spoils and mat does not really spoil RS
it can form mold and other things matah
is something that does not spoil now
sometimes it gets a little stale Etc but
but by and large mat does not spoil that
refers to the sense of Despair when a
person just continues their WRA so can
also represent the idea of feeling that
because I failed I will just continue to
fail for the rest of my life and finally
the moral makes a third point
that corresponds to inertia what do we
mean by this uh we talked about this
before PES that if flour and water come
together you don't have to do anything
to make it humm you don't need yeast you
don't need a starter if water hits the
flower if 18 minutes passes without
people working the D Hally it is H now
you might not even notice that it may
not look you know you don't you don't
see a noticeable rise necessarily
but the contact of water and flour for
18 minutes if the dough was not being
worked upon it is so you don't
make is what happens by itself that is
Ina Masa requires the action of
arresting the fermentation by baking you
bake it that destroys the fermentation
by something based cannot
become that they don't
eat is not a requirement because
obviously once mat is
baked it can be in liquid you can make
mat it doesn't
become was created really by the B the
first that it spread many groups uh
that's simply because of a that maybe
some of the was not completely baked
therefore it could still
become by contact with liquid from it
spread to other and from other spread to
the hotel industry in Israel because
they want to maximize business so
virtually every hotel with will not
serve
shough was I was at a place we actually
did have
uh mat balls mat balls but they were
potato mat balls they were not mat balls
mat balls uh so it's amazing
how versatile the the Lonely Potato
can can in be of course are very lucky
there was a discussion around 300 years
ago whether potatoes should be banned as
kidney so there actually there actually
was was a consideration
that you wouldn't be able to have
potatoes on P but eventually decided
that would have been
to that would have been impossible for
qu to to survive without potatoes P but
it makes a lot of sense actually think
about it I mean if if kidney o was based
on the idea that these things were
Ground into flour like Curious potato
potato flour you can do everything you
do with the rice flour so it should have
been kidney but still
that that gets an interesting digression
because here's the problem potatoes are
indigenous to the Americans I don't know
potatoes were not native European so in
the time of the goning when the laws of
kitney when the minog of kitney was
formulated there there was no potato so
that's a general issue did the gon
establish a
principle meaning things that are ground
up into flour and therefore as new
things get discovered we assimilate them
into the prohibition or did the Goon
only prohibit very specific things now
the here is very inconsistent because
okay rice they had God got you they
didn't have corn they didn't have corn
so corn is also Native American so if
you're going to tell me that only the
stuff that the go had is n and Kos and
not the stuff that comes later then
logically corn should be okay peanuts
should be okay some say peanuts are okay
uh quinoa would certainly be okay and
say what soy beans even soybeans you're
correct El the the that which were is
because established a principle if they
establish a principle that should apply
the potatoes as well so there's a lot of
inconsistency in this and even something
like kid you know that's the q i n o
Ain lot of know the and many American
yeah they go back many American
approve do not approve right so K goes
back and forth right you don't have any
problem and then people argue now that
we're all now that we're inel and we're
back go back
to okay yeah I don't I don't want to get
into
that well say again back to the and the
water what was that one that was
the which one is there is there a
connection yeah yeah yeah I was saying
yeah yeah I was saying is this I was
saying that if it represents inertia
that is not letting yourself go to the
place where you need to go that's kind
so therefore it's interesting that the
three symbolic meanings
of correspond to the three
of the again symbol number one the
arrogance of that it's puffed up and it
rises that corresponds to whitewashing
and denial when I justify my behaviors
as being righteous and holy uh step
number two the rotting of the spoilage
of K that represents the despair of
continuing in my WRA because I think
there's no way I could be the and number
three uh the M the healthy flesh which
represents uh emotional distancing and
not thinking about it that corresponds
to the inertia of which you don't move
to go where you need to go because
that's going to be too painful for you
so the three associations of H do
correspond to the three Tuma of the
right so again interesting point again
U it's useful to as I said before realiz
you said when you that last one that you
did go home you said when you the last S
no he does not go home no no no let me
explain if the whole if the whole Nega
goes away he goes but here we're talking
about the following he has a white
splotch yeah and in the middle of the
white splotch there's the appearance of
a healthy flesh but it's still
surrounded by the white splot there
that's a similar Tuma that's called m
but if Thea goes away that that's a
separate thing that he's no longer going
to be a leper even if he has s that's
how he gets better he brings his coros
and actually he counts seven days and
brings coros and then and then he's okay
you didn't hear the U what happens if he
has the C they don't go away do he
remain a his own life yes yeah yes yes
once he has thega and the one of the he
is a s until they go away when they go
away he then counts seven days and
brings coros until they go away he is
a and there's no automatic termination
for that status other than the seum
going away or the or the Nega going away
so the
three Lepard who went out and discovered
the empty Camp of the Assyrians yeah
where we assume in that category that
they were long
but we don't know how long but but yeah
at that point they were yeah yeah now of
course we do know if you remember there
was one recorded instance of one of the
Kings of Israel who became a leopard
this is Uzi yaho and that's very very
interesting that it is said that yaho
wanted to take the
prerogative of being a CO he wasn't a CO
but he figured I'm a king so why can't
there be a CO too so he entered the
which only
only and immediately there was a bright
flash of on his
forehead and uh because this was the
Arrogant this is the arrogance of
thinking he could take on this
particular role and uh that was in fact
Rashi says in many ways we consider a to
be similar to a dead person so if you
remember
Isaiah's great
inauguration to be a
prophet when he sees Hashem
sitting on the throne of glory and theim
say k is based on this they
Sayad this is taken from yes's inaugural
prophecy so it mentions that this
prophecy came to him in the year of the
death of the king of uzio of the king uu
and Rashi explains chronologically uzo
did not die but that was the year that
he became a leper and his son turned
over the took over the M yeah the in the
temple you had the AAR and they said
there were four bers there yes one was
for
the yes what was it there for the yeah
yeah this is an interesting point this
refers yeah you're correct this refers
to the problem okay there's a certain
Paradox in the laws of M let me explain
this this is referring to a
Ms who the the SAS has gone away he
counted seven days and he's bringing his
Corban note now now let me explain what
the problem is there's a certain problem
here is not allowed to enter the temple
until he brings his Corb but but part of
how he brings his Cor note is that the
coin has to apply blood to his thumbs
and his ears so you have a you have a
classical Catch 22 he's not allowed to
be in the BET mikdash until he brings
his corbon but in the bringing of the
corbon he has to be in the bet mikdash
he can't do it long distance because the
Coen applies the blood of the corbon to
the MS so the answer basically is he
stands outside the Gate of the bet
mikdash and he puts his hands in and the
co is applying the blood right imagine
you have the Gate of the bet mikdash the
MS is standing on the outside but his
hands are on the inside and theor
discusses is partial entry permitted Etc
so that chamber is is is to enable uh
that that to happen yeah but that's not
referring to someone that actively has
cess there's no connection to the BAM
mikdash at all
SAS spreads the to the whole body yes
yes that that's very interesting that
that is that is an interesting anomaly
and that is uh if the whole body has SRA
that's 100% if every single part every
single part is sarra so even though you
would think that should be the worst SAS
of all paradoxically he is
toor uh if a little bit if there one qu
inch that's not SAS any stach if it's
100% uh again it's it's hard to
understand uh the reason I can't explain
every single thing it could very well be
that uh at that point you know he he can
no longer live in denial meaning it's
impossible when hasem says 100% you know
he understands at that point you know
you've gotten his attention as it were
so he doesn't need the whole uh the
whole presence but you but you are
correct uh it's similar but it's not the
same reason it's similar to another
anomaly Ina you may recall uh by a
capital crown crime capital crimes uh
have to be adjudicated by a Sanhedrin of
23 judges it's a big Court 23
judges so if 22 of them say
he's and one says he's exempt so he he
gets the death penalty you need a
majority of two actually a majority of
one is not sufficient so if it's 13 to
I'm sorry if it's 12 to
11 actually the truth is you can never
get a majority of two but if it's 12 to
11 for conviction he does not get killed
because you need a majority of two but
that would be 13 to 10 so you know it'll
be majority of three practically but
okay but the Paradox is what if you have
a unanimous verdict for conviction what
if you have 23 judges say he deserves to
die
23 so he goes free he goes free because
if if not a single person could see any
type of exonerating circumstance we have
to suspect the process was not pure
because in an unbiased process somebody
will see something now this creates a
very fascinating ethical dilemma here's
the ethical dilemma I'm sitting with my
colleagues on the Sanhedrin we're 23
judges and I'm the last guy I'm the
youngest judge right so uh my vote is
last so uh I believe the guy's guilty
and so do 22 of my colleagues so I'm
hearing guilty guilty guilty guilty
guilty guilty I'm Mr 23 now here's the
Paradox if I say
guilty he goes
free if I say
innocent he gets
executed so what should I say uh should
I lie in order that the truthful verdict
as I see it will be carried
out or should I tell the truth if if
that will result in what I believe the
truthful verdict will not be carried out
so the
says you are not allowed to lie
meaning you must distance yourself from
a lie so even if as a result of your
telling the truth what's going to happen
is something you think is not truthful
but gu but God's is that the guy goes
free so in effect Hashem is obviously
considering that to be the correct
result so actually you're not allowed to
lie under those circumstances if you lie
that you don't believe in the process so
then you shouldn't be part of the Court
well that that that may be the a good
argument why you don't lie yeah yeah can
I make two
possible solutions to this problem going
to lie the guys going to go so you have
to believe that aem's going to take care
of him yes
or there's the the pit you can always
into the pit gu's a serial killer you
can't let him lose well if he yeah okay
I mean that would that would that would
work yeah yeah yeah yeah there there are
other you you know again I mean as as
you know when there is a there a p well
well the basic problem with this the
basic problem is that forgetting about
this particular case of the unanimous
verdict that's just a particular problem
the overall problem is that the
Sanhedrin procedure to impose capital
punishment is an
extremely difficult standard to ever
meet because you have to have
eyewitnesses eyewitnesses not
circumstantial evidence uh the witnesses
have to be two men they have to be Jews
they can't be related to each other or
to the victims they have to be Sher
shabis people uh and they have to give
the murderer warning before he murders
don't do it and the murderer has to
acknowledge the wording I'm going to do
it
anyway and only then and then the
Witnesses are cross-examined separately
on very minute details like what color
were his socks and if one if the witness
says I don't know we throw out the
testimony meaning we create a system
where it's almost impossible to execute
anybody uh and uh as the gamar says M
says makos a Sanhedrin that killed
somebody unlike the state of Arkansas
that apparently uh loves to kill
multiple people in the same
day yeah they did twoo they wanted to do
eight but they okay they only did two uh
but it says a Sanhedrin that killed once
every seven years was called a bloody
Sanhedrin and according to another
opinion 70 years and RAB yiva who was
after the Sanhedrin made the point if he
would be in the Sanhedrin nobody would
get killed so on one hand the Torah
gives you this capital punishment for
many many sins on the other hand K's
understanding of the procedure makes it
almost impossible so you're never going
to do it but then you have a problem
that uh if there's not going to be this
type of punishment then you know
murderers are not going to be deterred
right this debate about Catal punishment
there's no deterrence for murderers and
the like so because of this what's very
very interesting is that kazal envisions
an alternative system meaning there's
the normal judicial system in which
almost nobody's ever going to get
executed but when there's rampant
lawlessness this system may be suspended
you don't only need one witness
circumstantial evidence and there are
also rules for
serial uh violators serial murderers or
the like uh either they could be
executed or they could be indirectly
killed the expression would be they be
thrown into a pit they would be given
barley and water which kind of causes
them to explode or or whatever whatever
their stomach would would break you know
what whatever it would be uh different
in other words the point basically is
that side by side with the legal system
is a system a little akin to martial law
or extraordinary circumstances of
lawlessness extra Jud yeah extra judici
it was done it was done by a court but
it was a bit of an extrajudicial
procedure but as I say but in terms of
the unanimous uh verdict uh once again
uh the judge is not supposed to lie
uh it is intrinsic in the judicial
process uh as one would expect that one
must be honest and conscientious in
executing their duties even if the net
result will be something that you think
is not the uh proper is not the proper
uh result okay um all right what happens
in the under normal conditions where you
have a Serial say a Serial murderer to
20 victims and for
each murderer there was only one witness
but 20 different Witnesses yeah it's
amaz they got to see the same thing
that's the problem they have to see the
same thing even if one witness now there
is an argument by money ining myus let's
say one witness saw Ruan borrow $100
from Shimon on
Monday and one witness saw Ruan borrow
$100 from Shimon on Tuesday now had
there been two witnesses each day ruen
would owe 200 $100 but there's only one
witness but since there's one witness on
Monday's transaction and one witness on
Tuesday's transaction we do have two
witnesses that he owes $100 so that so
in Money Matters there is a m would that
be sufficient to allow them to combine
but for capital crimes uh that's would
not be enough they would have to see the
same the same thing they would have to
see the same thing but I want to point
out the other point Rob post is also
very very important and that is in a
system that is predicated on
Hashem in a sense when bad guys Escape
it really isn't so bad meaning in the
sense that they may Escape Earthly human
justice but they will never Escape
Divine Justice and therefore in effect
there is no such thing as the bad guy
getting away maybe we're not going to
catch him but if we don't catch them
there'll be other things uh other things
that that will happen I mean uh take an
example OJ Simpson OJ Simpson uh got
away with murder right quite literally
he got away with murder that's fine so
then he gets he gets thrown into prison
for years and years with some crazy
little thing about robbing a robbing a
trophy what whatever he did kind of you
know the person think get away with
murder and then you get trapped over the
smallest little stupid thing that winds
up to turn into a so really Hashem has
his has his ways in in in many many
different yeah with regard to
right yeah
destroy yes according to the med that
that that was the case yeah yeah but it
could be you know Hashem kind
of
because is also a public humiliation so
that's a gives you word but again
actually say that S and S were
theoretical they actually never happened
so it's hard to reconcile the M
according
to yeah there must be different midrash
it's very difficult to reconcile all of
these there are teachings to say there
was no such thing other say this is how
the Jews discovered all of the different
different goals and the like okay you
all be well so M
yeah one I think there one more question
one note of compassion and modernity
from a compassionate
Goin is like the third kidney for skin
diseases now it's a sign that they
should e more of a pure diet with fruits
and vegetables more water and less CU
we're surrounded by synthetic and things
that is not really
food all right it's a sign compassionate
sign from God a warning sign we need to
improve maybe warning sign that way okay