Washing Netilas Yadayim With Discolored Water {Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 160 Seif 1-2}

Okay, good morning, friends. Welcome aboard. We're continuing in Mishnah Berurah. Siman kuf samach. Which water is kosher, which water is disqualified for netilat yadayim? Says the Mechaber, based on the Mishnah on the first perek of Yadayim, mayim shenishtanu mareh'an, water whose appearance has changed, bein machmas atzman, whether inherently, bein machmas davar shenafal le'tochah, because of something that fell into them, bein machmas mekomam, or because of their location, pesulim. Says the Mishnah Berurah, shenishtanu mareh'an, ve'alfenu zeh mimayim shel kiyor. This is learned out from the water of the kiyor, shehayah lekidush yadayim bamikdash, which was used to sanctify hands in the Mikdash, dipesulim beshinui mareh. So, it's somewhat davar yafeh be'itai, because in parshas Naso, it talks about the mayim of the kiyor. May mayim hamarim. Okay. Machmas atzman, what does it mean machmas atzman? Kegon she'amad bekli zeman rav ad shenasah yarok al yedei ha'avirah cham. It stood in a kli for a long time until it became green because of the humidity, because of the heat. Or sometimes people provide, I had this many times, they give you, "Oh, you must need an urn where you're staying." You know, so they bring you an urn from their garage. That the water has been sitting in the urn from the dar hamabul. And it's mayim shenishtanu mareh'an, also vereh vereh. And you always have [snorts] to make an evaluation with the caffeine what's which one is good eye. So if it's if it stayed there is a man rough at your week then it's possible. It's only possible for you could still drink it though. Being a habit to examine a total the codified this from the Torah the other half the only mentioned in the disqualification if it got if it was possible because of something else. The rain likewise the have proved the Medina the motor Muhammad Osman the amazing the says that water that change colors whether Muhammad or the is possible. However however the does not mention that scenario of Muhammad only the other and the namely the back in the preacher they say not like the Muhammad kosher. What's Muhammad the other Muhammad going to do I let's say ink which are many salmon with wine. Ink fell in or some kind of other spice or or dye the actual even if the actual dye did not dissolve just it soaked there long enough that the color changed. What I did in the other Changed through smoke. But if it changed colors because of dust or cement grime That's not considered changing color. So if it changed colors because of some kind of dirt or dust that's not considered why That's how water develops. That's how water is found naturally. We are smarter of it. It's usually mixed with some kind of dust and pebbles. Also, eventually if you leave it it will It will settle. Yeah, it will settle to the bottom. It will sink to the bottom of the >> [snorts] >> What does it mean to change colors because of its place? Actually, once I was in Melbourne and a guy took me to lakes. The lakes turned pink. Why do they turn pink? Probably some kind of algae, I think. They turn pink. The water turns pink. So is that That's not I would think that's like That's how the the is is kind of there. What does it mean being to show you in the car? Whether it changed when it was in the ground because she showed on the clay or afterwards when you drew it with the cle, then it's all you need a cle. Makhmas mikume means when it was in the ground or if you drew it and it's all you need a cle, they're possul. >> [snorts] >> This din that the water becomes disqualified if you change your hand if the water changes colors even a little bit is only if you wash your hands with a cle. If you immerse your hands, well, then it does not become disqualified just because it changes color slightly. If you immerse your whole body in a mikvah, the mikvah's not possul because of so too if you do the procedure of say the dime it is does it is not disqualified because of mara called a who. It's only if the actual dye fell into the water and it dissolved into it or or if another liquid fell in like red wine char may pierce or other fruit juices or the Mayan when it comes to a natural spring shinoi mara cloud then a change of color does not disqualify at all come a voyeur sham shulin they're possul they live it's not an inherent disqualification it's only while the color is present if the color returns to its natural state then they would be kosher. Suffice. Also by my malacha. If you did some kind of malacha with the water. Or you should shove them pita or you dipped your bread in the water. I feel [snorts] when it's coming let's just enough of a shiny. Even if your cabana was to dunk it in this clay and you didn't. It fell into a different clay. It's so lame. Says the mission bro malacha that I am double shaded by light if you do something that has that sort of with the water. Not so good show you can the water is uh attains the status of water that was already poured out. Discarded water. I am the machine car. That's designated to be poured up so long until it's possible for the to die. Okay, she showed up at him. If you did if you dipped your bread you dipped your donut in the water you cannot use it for the to die. The crush of the malacha. Dipping food is a Even if another guy came along and he dipped his lunch in your water. So you say ain't no the most of the in a show lie. That's when you do something supernatural. You do something spiritual. But if somebody came along and broke your window you wouldn't say no my window's not broken. Ain't no the most of the in a show lie. It's broken. So the is water that malacha was done is not qualified. It's discarded water. So he did something with it. I'm okay the condition of the stop it because of that. I'm sorry I skipped. The came the show. Other malachas as well, not just dipping your bread. It doesn't matter if he did it, if you did it, or someone else. But Rebbe Akiva Eiger is not so sure. What's Rebbe Akiva Eiger's safek? Right? That's Rebbe Akiva Eiger's safek. The Darchei Shuvu brings from the Shaarei Teshuva it's explained by the Kaf Hachaim. So, why do we tak uh why do most acharonim say even if somebody else does a malacha it's pasul? Says what it's similar to he gives almost the example we gave. If somebody throws milk into your cholent, we don't say you can eat it. In other words, it's a hefsed nikar. It's like they broke it. You know, there's nothing you could do. It's not a supernatural In other words, is you serve avodah zarah, so there's nothing nikar in the item that they there's not the hishtanus is not nikar in the item. It's a supernatural hishtanus. So, we say you can't authorize a thing. You're not authorized to create a prohibition my thing without doing something to the to the actual item. Since you intended to dip your bread into the water, it's disqualified. It is disqualified. It's a big chiddush, but it's pasul. If you didn't have kavana at all to soak it, if enough from the I'm just a piece of bread fell into the water, kashiram, the water is kosher. The light shall be new kishaf and it's not deemed like water that's going to be poured out. What I did enough alcohol by my am for who that shall be scabbing. The same thing would be a fork fell into your netilat cup. Oh, the fork was clean. So now the water is possible. No. No intention was uh made to to If let's say you went to the mikvah, but you forgot to take off your clothing. Or you took a shower and you're so tired you forgot to get undressed. >> [snorts] >> And then you squeezed out your shirt. Because you needed water for netilat it's no good. It's no good. Okay, here's what we're going to do. Let's just finish the page. So this way it will do tomorrow's. And then we'll figure out tomorrow if we get together, okay? So we're almost there. Okay, just a couple more more minutes. Um >> [clears throat] >> Let's say you cooled off wine in water. It's possible. You put a You had wine. You're storing it somewhere it was warm. You put the bottle of wine in cold water. So you use the water. The water is possible. Says the mission of Baruch the consider you they have my am not standing through the water the uh wine cooled off. If you had a wine if the wine was cold then the and you put it in the water let you come and make so that the water doesn't heat up. Because you didn't do a lot of with the water. You didn't do a lot of with the water. You put wine in the water to cool it off. Let's say like this. You went to a carnival and you bounced the ping pong ball into the cup and you won the goldfish. The only thing is you don't have anywhere to put the goldfish. So in the meantime you're storing the goldfish in your netilat Yadayim cup. It's not possul. Why? The ain mayim poalim bohem. The water is not acting. The water is not doing something. It's just providing an environment that the fish could swim in the meantime but it's not doing something. That's not called a melacha. It's just Let's say like this. A guy a guy knocks on your door and he says you know there's no oxygen outside. Can I come into your house to breathe? So you let him in. So you're not Your house is not doing anything for him. He's just in a place that he could breathe. So too the water is not doing a melacha for the fish. It's just preserving them. Da filu in mais ha dag even if the fish dies so now you have a dead fish in your netilat Yadayim cup the water is not possul. >> [snorts] >> But if the fish stays there a very long time so then it's going to become smelly then it will become possul. Okay. The Mechaber contends psulem. If you washed keilim with the water the water is possul. If you cleaned off a fork with your netilat Yadayim water from some dirt or to get off a smell keilim or if you watched washed vegetables By the way vegetables are things that grow from the ground that some people eat them. It's mash if the vegetables were already rinsed and cleaned the water is kosher it's not considered a melacha at all dumia dekalim similar to kale that if they're clean it's not a melacha. If you soak the vegetables so they don't wither and other is that it's called a melacha and it's possible. There are some who are make the habit if you soak vegetables so they don't wither in a human if they're somewhat moist and clean from dust when the sun came to you put them there just to preserve the water came your way afterwards it is correct to wash your hands again believe but without making a brocha. Okay, let's hold it over here. So tomorrow um if you can come you won't miss the mission of Bora and and then we'll we'll try to we'll try to do something but I guess something short. Okay, so this way we finish the page we start the new page next week Monday. And we're good to go hang in there one moment. Recording stopped.