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Okay, good morning everyone.
We're [clears throat] continu
described a very interesting scenario of
a guy drawing water from a river,
pouring it into an irrigation canal.
The issue with the irrigation canal
is that if you're washing close to where
you're p you pour it could be construed
as no it also has to flow
if you want to immerse your hands.
It also has to flow in order for it not
to be. In other words, the Mabra said
that if you were to your hands in the
it's not going to work because it's
um
but if you poured the water sort of out
of the and it flowed into it then it
could be extricated from the category of
shuim. Seems like here you're trying to
use the principle of
And the way it's working is as follows.
You're drawing water from the river.
You're pouring into irrigation canal.
There's a hole in the bucket. So the
water is pouring is dripping out of the
hole back into the river. And
the question is, can this be considered?
So let's read again.
even if you pour straight into the
point of that is it's not going to flow
before. So it's not being purified from
being because it was not
but
if the bucket has a hole behind it
and while you're pouring into the
irrigation canal
you're pouring backward into the river
you could be your hands in the in the
irrigation canal. Why
it's considered like you're in the river
this connection
attaches the cle into
the river
and
we consider the water and the irrigation
canal attached to the river.
Even though this is not considered an
attachment for
but it would be considered a a for
those who argue the riff
and the
say even for it's not considered
Don't wash your hands from stones that
were set into the wall. So from the
beginning they were not a cle
and then you made you carved out a
receptacle and a spigot
and you fashioned it into a cle after it
already was attached to the the wall.
No, it it it can't become a cle.
But if it was originally a cle
and then you attach it,
you could wash from it.
agrees
with the riff.
You could rely on the lenient opinions
because that is the view of most
If you immersed your hands
through an attachment of a flow
and then you had an opportunity to wash
properly,
you're not going to make the
most you were ready. In other words to
highlight that
we would rely on being a the highlights
that if you had the opportunity to wash
after you would not make on that second
because according to P give me ready
with the first
hollow tubes that pour out water from
the river.
So you have tubes that the water of a
river flows into and now you want to put
your hand under these hollow tubes.
So you have these big straws in the that
the river flows through and then at the
end of the straw you want to put your
hand under.
What is that considered?
What would you say?
We already had that if you put your
hands near
the place where water was poured into
irrigation canal that's considered
um
but in this case it's the exact
opposite. It was coming from a kosher
mikvah river but then it went through
nonm so
If you put your hands under the floor,
even according to those in who hold, you
don't need
you at least.
These tubes are not.
They have no receptacle.
casten.
You also can't immerse your hands in a
rare casten.
What is this? The on the bottom it says
a a canal that's attached to a barrel
that
the canal brings water to the barrel
from a river
the
so what exactly this scenario you want
to immerse your hands in some kind of
canal
that's attached to a barrel
that through these tubes the water uh
fills up the barrel.
So presumably these tubes are not a so
you can immerse your hands in them
provided that the flow
stopped from the tubes
at the time the water is flowing through
the tubes.
If you want to be your hands in a
barrel,
you could say that it's permitted
according to everyone, even according to
the
this kind of wide attachment is a to
everyone.
So it seems like that if
you want to
put your hands under the tube, it's not
an aila because the tube is not a cle.
But if there's a very wide attachment of
water, if the water is connected in a
wide area, that type of nituk, everybody
would agree is an effective connection.
plump.
Don't wash your hands from a
pump.
The on the bottom it says a masha, some
kind of
lever that you pull it down and it draws
water out of the well and then the water
comes spraying out of this pump. Why?
It's not a cle
Okay.
This is all if you put your hands near
the place where the water comes out
from the canal that protrudes.
You're allowed to put one hand near the
ground
and on the other hand plump
and with the other hand you pull on the
lever to bring the water onto your hand.
Then you switch.
Why does that work?
Because the flow is an attachment.
It's like you're being toy in the water.
It's in the spring itself.
Is this the header? Like when you don't
have a cup at all just to turn on and
off the sink.
Um,
I don't know that there's such a head
there.
I mean, isn't that what he's that's what
he's describing in a way? Like, turn on
the lever, put your hands low, shut it
off. It's then you or have your friend
do it.
Earlier he said instead of Zion
that the reason why the pump isn't good
is because it's not kayak right.
Okay, one more time.
So, so it seems like there's some kind
of spring over here. The pump is
bringing the water out of the spring.
So, you can't wash from it because in in
that kind of scenario, it's not a cle.
But if you put your hands close down to
the ground, so somehow this
is is a and it's like you're in the
Mayan itself.
Why would this be okay but the hollow
pipes not be okay?
I don't have the mus of this case.
Claire.
Okay, let's read
and then I have to get some kind of
diagrams for these cases because this
case of plump the the mur discussed the
plump earlier in some kess in cif katan
Y
he said.
Okay.
This is
this is discussing you want to hollow
out stones that are built into the wall.
So the says
they're set in the wall like the wall.
Look at the primagadim. Who's inclined
to say that only to wash from the bar
as a manner of washing of a lit.
This is talking about you want to wash
from this cle through the spigot of it
or through the place where the water
comes out of a hole. But to be your
hands if it has 40
which is
not like being
considered like
nevertheless
it would seem obvious
if you want to use the brick that you
carved out to immerse your hands. If
they're 40 saw, it would only be if the
water got into the brick, not through a
cle. But if it got into the brick
through a clever,
if it was a cle originally and then it
got it was attached to the wall, then
you could wash from it.
The reason is since it already was
considered a cle when it was not
attached,
you could wash from it through the
spigot
which is removed
every time that you pour
through the spigot that you remove it,
you open every time he poured.
So, tomorrow we're going to do something
that we never did before. We're going to
go back. Okay. We're going to I need to
get pictures of the cases
of
kan
of the rare casten
and the kim
and the case of the plump.
uh because I'm not uh then maybe we'll
understand clearer the principles that
the mish is saying. Okay. So tomorrow we
will go back and try to clarify
Z and it'll be good anyway because then
we'll be back to uh starting from the
beginning of the page on Monday.
Okay everyone but don't go anywhere.
