Washing Netilas Yadayim For Bread in the Bathroom - Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 161 Seif 1

Okay, good morning friends. We're continuing in Mishnah Berurah. Today we learn siman kuf sameach bet, new siman. Hagba. No, that's not what you're thinking. We're not talking about hagba of a sefer Torah. We're talking about hagba of your hands. Hagba v'shishuf hayadayim netilah. Raising your hands and rubbing your hands when you wash them. One who washes their hands needs to raise them. The heina roshei etzba'osav, the tops of your fingers l'ma'alah. You need to raise the top of your fingers above. What does this mean? The Mechaber continues shelo yeitzu mayim chutz l'perek, so that the water doesn't go outside of the area of your hand become tamei v'yachzuru tamei'im and then render your hands tamei again. So you want to keep your hands high so that the water drips down and doesn't come back. But if you don't raise them, then you the water is in danger of becoming tamei and then coming back and being metamei your hands. Says the Mishnah Berurah hakdamah. Aktem hakdamah ketzarah. I'm going to give you a short intro. We ask our poskim I'm going to give a short intro the way it's explained in the Tur and the Beis Yosef and other poskim so that these sefarim should should be able to be explained. Who The [snorts] ta'am netilas yadayim mishum deyadayim maskaniyos heim. We said earlier the reason for netilas yadayim is because your hands are busy. V'lachein gozrim aleihen tum'ah. Because your your hands are busy, Hazal decreed that their tummy. In Malaysia you turn and review Islam unless you tie them with a review of water. Now interesting the Could the dish brings an interesting topic, very relevant topic. Could you wash your hands for bread in a bathroom? The Minchas Yitzchak says the Shulchan Aruch says that you're on the road. You have nowhere else to wash and you're hungry. You're tired. In other words, it's not enough that you don't have somewhere else to wash. So what? If anyway you need to lose 17 pounds, so now's a good time. Now's a good time to start. But if you're tired, if you're tired, if you don't eat the body matter. But you should make the outside. The Shulchan Aruch says in the Beit Yosef you should not wash only in the room that has a bath in it. It's not allowed to wash only in the room but in the room that has a bath in it, it's allowed to wash in the room. And even if there are things there, you could put up the shower curtain. The Shulchan Aruch says it's allowed. However, the Shulchan Aruch says it's allowed to wash in the room even to do wash your hands in a shower of a room. Provided it's a cold shower, but if they take hot showers there, you wash your hands there. What What kind of mikvah do they have? Only cold showers, okay? Um What about you want to wash netilat yadayim on a base base akise on a train? Those are not necessarily the most pleasant places. Rav Vozner says, if you don't have any other water, you could. As long as there's no re'ach ra, and the makom is nakki, and the tsoya is not there bekvias. I don't know about that one. So, what about washing in a bathroom on a airplane? Again, sha'at ha'dchak. Now, what about washing netilat yadayim Mhm. He brings a real inyan netilat yadayim in the base akise. Oh, oh, on the other side on the other on the other uh side, Chazon Ish says, it doesn't work. Chazon Ish says, washing netilat yadayim in a bathroom doesn't work. Rav Moshe says, netilat yadayim in a bathroom doesn't work. Does not work. That's d o e s n o t. Does not work. Not only that, the Chazon Ish says, if you washed your hands out of the bathroom, and then you went into the bathroom, you need to wash again. That's how bad it is. So, I think it should depend like this. If you're you're on a you're on a plane. How long exactly is your plane ride? It's an hour? Wait. So, you say, "What am I waiting for? When I get to the airport it's also in the bathroom. I don't know. It's not possible. It's not possible you can wash until you sit down in the bathroom. According to the and it does not work even the other. >> Those airplane bathrooms is enough for me in the beginning of the flight versus the end of the flight. Like if you're flying to Israel. >> Yeah. Could be. But not according to the they say you can't wash in the bathroom period. You want to know about according according to that it's going to depend on the then uh then it might uh >> In the airports in the airports the stalls would have a door ordinarily. >> In the what? In the airport? >> Airports. >> Only only not by now only by one only by one minute of bathroom, right? The guy be Yeah. That's interesting. I have to look up the quotes that he says the so I don't know. I'm not familiar with that over. But he definitely brings from the and uh that if you wash your hands and then you went into the bathroom although you also line it to lie. Okay. Um later. What about washing your hands in the bathroom for the bathroom? Is that the same as Would the say you didn't do anything? Or is this only the guy be bread? Okay. I you know, I thought we said earlier that because our bathrooms I thought the himself said that because our bathrooms are like the Persian bathrooms where the are removed immediately, it's more lenient. Maybe that's regarding but this is an of so it has a higher standard. Okay, back into the Mishnah Berurah. Um You got to wash your hands twice. Why? The first washing purifies your hand. But the waters themselves remain tummy. because your hands were tummy. The water became tummy from your hands. Okay, so again, Mishnah Berurah saying you need to wash twice. The first time your hands are but the water becomes tummy because they became tummy from your hands. The second pouring awesome it purifies the water and now the purification of your hands are complete. But if you pour one simultaneously on the two hands or if or if each hand got a yes, you don't need to wash your hands twice because then not only does the water purify your hands, the water doesn't come tummy. Now, the brings that the you have to wash twice the explains in olive is the opinion of the rush and other post game. But the rush argues and he holds you don't have to wash twice. What's the logic? The beer explains that once your hands are tough on the first water even though the Mayan is Tommy you could remove the Mayan that Tommy by Nego. The other we shine say no the we're messing you should wash Mayan cuz they were afraid you might touch you the clean hand might touch touch the tumor of the other hand. Okay, let's see the shots here in olive. The shots here in olive is going on that you have to wash twice lotions that will brush the tour of the casa twice to smack casa rib the aroma casa in the Indian shuma the casa ash the rabbinical who mash me the dinner and eat all the almond. All these we shine say you need to wash twice. The who the light in the master the rush the machine to totally rock the annoy and right to lead to your fan. And as the beer explained that the reason is because you could remove the Tommy water with Nego. Fine, back to the top. The dust The master that one washes hands has to raise them. So that the water doesn't leave that area the actual and return the Tommy and I'm What does that mean? >> We're afraid that some of the original water left that area of the hand. Which the netilat Um We're afraid We're afraid some of the mymarishaynam that is tame left that area. Which is above the place of netilat that the >> [clears throat] >> were masakin. And there once the water leaves that area If you wash that water, it doesn't become tahor. in the place If you're not going to elevate your hands We're afraid that tame water is going to come back into that area. Tame your dying. Now when the says that we're worried on the last narrow line We're worried maybe a little of the mymarishaynam that became tame is going to leave the perak. He says the whole lamala It's above. Does he mean really below? I mean what are we afraid of? We're afraid if you keep your hands in a regular position, it's going to go down on your arm. And then if it goes down on your arm, and it comes back, then there's no way to purify it cuz Hazal were only masakin that the water of the of the hand itself could become tahor. But water that leaves that area will not become tahor if you pour water on it. Cuz he says So therefore you need to keep the hands raised while you wash them so that the water drips down and stays down. I don't know why he uses the word dehu lamala mimakom hanatila. It's not above, it's below. Unless if your hands when your hands are in a regular position, which is down, in other words, when your hands are on your side, then the part the area that's not in the makom hanatila is above. It's now when you're raising them, this way it will remain below. Clearly that's what he means. U le peirusham af im natel kol hayad ad makom chibura im knei hazroa, according to this peirush, even if you wash the whole hand until the place that it connects to the arm. Yesterday we saw that me'ikar hadin you don't have to wash your whole hand. You only have to wash the entire finger. That's how the Mechaber said. Other achronim say you have to wash the whole hand. But according to this pshat, even if you wash the whole hand, gam kein tzarich lehagbiha, you have to raise your hands meichashash for this chashash sheyeitzei chutz lasham that it's going to leave that area viachsor vachazak and return afterwards. We're going to see tomorrow that there are those who dispute this and they say, "No, this chashash is only if you only wash the fingers." But according to our minhag that we wash the hands, you don't have to do hagba. You will not typically see people do hagba. What's the reason? There We'll see, there could be two reasons. Number one, it's only an issue if you're only washing the fingers. But, if you're going to wash the whole hand, there's no concern. Furthermore, there's no concern if you use a revi'is. And we have these big cups. We have these big cups. They hold many, many revi'is. We're never really washing with less than a revi'is. So, then maybe that you won't have to do hagba. Okay, now I'm going to tell you a story. B'di di have a ofda, yesterday it was the last day of yeshiva in New York. So, I had to get my kids something to eat. So, we went to a store. In this store, thousands of people eat every single day. Went to the store, and I got a bagel. Okay, so I go to the sink. In the sink, there was a disposable cup. I told them, "Where is the netilas yadayim cup?" They said, "This." It was you know, something um it was a plastic container that you get takeout food in. That's, you know, I said, "But, I can't use this. It's not halachically acceptable." I told the Spanish lady. She said, "Nobody ever said anything to us." "Tens of thousands of people have washed netilas yadayim over there, and nobody ever said." So, I was looking around. I said, "Do you have a glass?" No. Yeah. Yeah. Looking around, you know, they have like ornaments on the near the ceiling of different pottery. So, I climbed up. I Now, I asked um one of the workers if I could use it. She said, "I don't know." Now, I can't take it if they say I don't know, it's stealing. So, it's it's might it might even be better to use a plastic cup than to use a stolen cup. If you don't have reshus, hashoel sholeach midas is a gazlan. Anyway, so then I went to the manager. I said, "Could I use that?" She says, uh "Okay." So, I climbed up. I got it took out the thing. Sure enough, this massive thing was the matching netilas yadaim cup that when that matches the sink. Anyway, that is the unbelievable story that happened. Yes, and nobody ever asked them to wash their hands with an actual cup. That's the end of the story. The story has now concluded. Okay. >> [snorts] >> Recording stopped.