Visiting One's Rebbe on Yom Tov - For What Purpose? Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

a couple of weeks ago we went through the topic at least part of the topic of the says to visit in the previous year when we spoke about it we spoke the we also focused a lot if it's in today she I would like to go through how are you the how meaning to say is why is there and then we'll see these why of course these a but what's the reason what's the reason for the and that'll make a the of how to be this then when says to go visit why is it to go be or is it to go learn T from him we'll see some but before any na just practical the difference is is if you go to visit your rebi do you also have to hear from him Tyra or if you just go visit him and you tell him good y if it's enough this shil that we're claring to go visit your is it to be or is it to go learn from [Music] him Rashi rash and that we just finished [Laughter] quoting how you by showing your face by going to visit him going to visit him that the is to go the r as well which would maybe we would think that maybe it's a but the r in the speaking about with what a person is person has to stand up the ra says more other person has to go visit his re which would be pretty clear that it's a it's a this is the rash and the r later on has it's not in the discussion of what we're speaking about in today's she but it's important as we'll see says that a person can make a after if he forgot these just like Su and P if a person forgot to makeu Kish the is on the day of the yam could say the first day P if you got the first day P the second day the third day you could say it throughout yam this one day these two days and if you forgot you do you could say to call even the days after sh I don't understand that after can make the somewhat the days are connected to the you could bring you could bring so has a don't how's it with what are the days after y connected that you should be able to make a that's real disin asks on the and he answers and he says like this that the days after sh are yes connected to y even though we don't have carbas but with what with the din that a person has to go visit his rebi that after a person couldn't go visit his rebi AR he lives in mon his re lives in Lakewood he couldn't go was he couldn't go for y after you could go visit which that's not today's topic but even in the the din of going visiting if you couldn't go on y you could go to days after Y which happens to be argues and says no there is no it's only on but back to our discussion disc you know why you can make a is the days after edab visiting youri but then the mar dis says no it's not like that that you don't have to come don't be you don't have to come visit me it's not to say that is connected to it's still because you can visit your re he could be it's not really considered that these are real and therefore he says that wouldn't be a of how you can make a after just to take out the point even if you didn't get the whole take out very clearly the point the says that a be which is its own its own let's go back to what we declared right at the beginning is the Mitzvah the to go visit or is a learning from your if it would be a to learn fromi so what does it help that was it's nothing to do with being you have to go learn from your re clearly clearly that to go visit 4 he says that he could be m we had Rashi the r as well as also later in the much later that the ran actually on the that we focused on the last two weeks on Kish so the ran says this a it's a different shle but ran says how learning and he brings we focused it on on the previous year of what's the m to go visit from that her husband said seemingly that you would it wasn't shabas and it wasn't yam but if it would be shamas and Y she it would be understood why she's going going Zan you know why shabas she we would understand why she would go why yes so we see clearly from the Pretty clearly that to go visit now so if you're just going to go visit your rebi and you're not going to hear from or you're not beautiful very good we're going to get to it shortly good I mean we'll get to it shortly so that that's the sh also is clearly it's a whole shle and when speaking about and then he brings in he's actually speaking about exactly that of ladies and then he says it's what type of to know meaning to say is that the reason why she would have gone shabas and Y is yes to learn to learn that we'll get to it shortly about the sh or not we're not going to go in the general of but to this of ladies Vis to p p as well also learns that it's a and therefore the goes in which we'll get to soon goes into the so our ladies Our Ladies not but says clearly that I'm G to read the of rash say maybe it's I'm making a mistake from rash seems both rash says talking about when you go to visit which would seem there was two purposes number one and besides if it wouldn't have said learning seems like these two things first of all and besides to listen to the he yet another din another part to is it we're trying to CL why are two different ways of learning the is it or the fact says sounds like this is not good so what you're you're bringing up which I had the same thought originally but then I I thought not what you're bringing up is is that it says it seemed that it's something besides he you say they're both part of one thing is not mentioning would seem that the other part is is not part of it what you could also understand is when they went to visit thees first of all and meaning to say is you're saying itself I will learning is then would seem something besides that good we'll leave the Rashi on the side I'm not is Rashi saying that it's both hasle to actually say that it's both he says the is to learn from your secondary is so what a na over here na if it's or so we already saw first of all POS it if you go visit and you don't learn from you don't hear a she we also saw another na if a person if the re is if it's so it's not because you have to learn from him if it's another na would be your rebi is giving a Shear in your town hundreds of people by the shear you go to the shear he didn't see you he didn't get in you're sitting upstairs he didn't see you and you weren't able to go over to tell him to say hello he didn't know that you came to the she so you weren he didn't know that you came however however if it's a you learned by him could say that everybody everybody so this itself that was a Shear of 500 people that itself was a c you part of the C good I like what you're saying could be even doesn't D have to mean that he you it was a c for him and then they you part of the cover that hundreds of people came and even though he didn't see you and even though he didn't even see that it was upstairs it was full it wasn't full that's a of good point good point are you by being in the hall or you have to actually say could be you know it's the same feels good he had a full wedding even though it's not Mish in the circle you didn't know he came but you helped out in another as we mentioned before was the concept the ladies have the to go visit so then ladies would be as well but if the is a of brings in says that which would seem which would seem that maybe is not that you have from him but the way you're doesn't say how do you do that it could be through then even though she doesn't the way that she would do would still be through her you're learning just like in other words the of had to visit your stop to just go visit waste his time the way of visiting him is with t tyus even if L is that's the way to do it so it could be it could be if they're not so then it's not even a of how to do you mean why he the's giving over we're going to get back to this of why why is it that he's not giving over what' you say it's only giving over to somebody that's to give over that's what you're saying let's get back to this in two three minutes it's a good point because really really the sh is you have to go to your re walk can't you just I mean learn yourself what's what's Tak we'll get to that in a moment so speaks about it and the sh is was a lady and the whole of was learned from this that she went and she was asked that but if then we would understand so and say that even though they're not they have to they have to learn to know what to be want to go to on y to learn to know how to to know of so for that I'm not going to go into there a separate discussion why they is that really it would have been every day to know it's not or like what we saw last year that it can't be more than but it's not it's not but the idea is to go to she should be because she supposed to serve her husband but he has to go to share anyways so then nothing stopping her from going to here as well she has to somebody say someone has to stay to watch the kids that's part of she saying take the kids also the kids program but hacker we find that he bring the kids another but this one this is is a maybe they speak about it but I want to hear what thinks another so what did we come out what did we conclude brings it that another would be is if you go to visit your rebi you go to your Reby lives in AOL and you go the second day let's say when it's not yam anymore if you learned you go to visit your for him it's not yam and for you it's second if you learn so then it's that could be have maybe this is a maybe you could go either way but maybe you have to be when it's for him the being all the time when it's for him if it's not for him you're not you're not about it but if it's he speaks about it but if it's who it's you should know so then even though for your re it's already not y anymore you need to hear Le on your even though then you would be if it's a maybe you're not going to be because is that you're supposed to you on you could also say is that it's a for you for you on should be but you can hear that it's when it's so just to conclude today she again we saw is it a ofab or is it a of learning from we saw couple is it a for ladies do you have to learn by or just tell another possibly is if does came to the so what's we started learning we're getting it ready into the mode of P the next y of coming up and you want to you're going to go visit your rabi is it a quick visit just to say you have to learn also very interesting the the have different opinions about it they bring said that it's enough to tell you and was is made he says I was y by and his Helm came he was there for a little bit he was no talking and learning he came to visit his Reb and he left so you visit your re even if you don't learn any as well says that you do not have to speak the Arabian learning Yash andus and a safer in two places says the same as long as you go says that as we mentioned earlier he says the and like we mentioned also the of to know the he says that you're not just to go visit re is not enough you have to go to a to listen a wonder if he says yeah he says that's why you don't it's not it's not applicable you saw in the previous year that says b said he's no's no visit why not we spoke about in the previous year because the reason why to go visit is to learn here we have so we can learn it ourselves it's beautiful to go he himself says it's both and he's also a mile of going but to learn so that we have of the as well also says and the same thing also that it's not because we have as well as also the stier the STI They bring though we mentioned before says the opposite that just to say is enough the says that it's not applicable because we anyway have the if there is you have can you go out of the neighorhood so that's a good child I didn't go through it thoroughly how much there's also they asked the child a person has wife so how's it going to Works mean to go with your wife and kids is like this to some extent it is technically you want to know if your your re's in if your re's Town how far out of town it's a good Shila the sh is a good at what length do you have to go to visit rebi how much do you have to sacrifice you have to pack up your whole yam and go wherever your reev is it's not really brought L I don't know but it's not it's not it's not doesn't bring it though it's mentioned three times in you to walk through the water to visit repper and you L to go through the water but that's the everyone brings it doesn't say to go just to conclude with one more caller a tiny though was speaking about a person to go visit RAB his rabi in AR over there he brings that for the god everybody everybody has a upon if you could person's in a place where the God is over there that's for everybody every person has for it's everybody that's what he brings pru already touches about about it also not Mish but he explains whyis but the concept he says is that you see from her that you went to the God so everybody has a the God but in the general what we spoke today is that or have a wonderful shabas wonderful