הנבואה שמקריסה את יסודות הנצרות - הרב טוביה סינגר

Um, yeah. I'm uh David from Detroit. I've been a Pentecostal Christian for like 24 years now. Um, I'm sorry, I was a Pentecostal Christian for 24 years. I've been a Noahide for 13 years. And I was debating with a friend of mine who's a Lutheran. And I was asking about um Zechariah 8:23. And I always thought it was that they were grabbing the cities. I'm not specifically sure, but he claims it was fulfilled already in Jesus. And I'm just wondering the specifics on that, basically. >> That's interesting. All right. First, the context. Um, this is a Messianic chapter. It launches to a spectacular Messianic chapter of worldwide knowledge of Hashem. Technically, it's continuing from Zechariah chapter 7. It's a response to a question about fasting. You could see clearly like in verse 19 of this chapter, all the fast days will become days of uh days of joy and festivity. None of this has occurred. The key difficulty your friend has is that he doesn't speak a word of Hebrew. You said he's a Christian. He should sue his school for depriving him of speaking the language of the Jewish scriptures. Because if he spoke Hebrew, he would know immediately it's not one person, but it's many people. So, if you read it in English, thus say the Lord Hashem, those days 10 men of different nations and languages will take hold of the hem of a Jew saying, "Let us go with you, for now we heard that God is with you." So, in the English language, that pronoun you, there's no way to know if it's one person or many people unless you're south of the Mason-Dixon and then it'll be you all, okay? However, in Hebrew that problem is satisfied. Why? Because in Hebrew the pronoun tells us that it's not one person but many people. So therefore, the end of the verse says, "Lamo nel ohem." "Nel ohem, let us go with you all." Imachem means you all. It's not one person. "Ki shamano, because we have heard that Elohim imachem, that God is with you all." So it's a plural. So what the church has cleverly done is deprive its parishioners of any knowledge of the Hebrew language. Yes, Christians can study Hebrew in college. It's available at Dallas Theological, at Moody. It's all available there. But then you're 19, 20 years old by the time you're going to university. It's too late. You take a a one or two course in Hebrew, it's too late. What Why don't Christian schools teach biblical Hebrew to little children just like Orthodox Jews teach their children biblical Hebrew? The answer is that if Christian children would learn biblical Hebrew along with their native language, let's say in this case English, they would see right through this. These events that are described in Zechariah chapter 8 are numerous Messianic events that describe a world that's utterly transformed. None of those things have occurred. And now we come back to a fundamental question cuz we can't just leave it there. The Christian must answer the following question. This is a Messianic passage. It's an end-time passage. Most Christians would concede this point. And this creates a monumental problem. Because if Jesus is the Messiah and the doctrine of the Trinity is true, that means that the Jews at the end of days would be exposed as the very people who made the colossal mistake of rejecting him. I mean, there's only two possibilities. Either he is the Messiah or he's not the Messiah. Can't be both. These two claims are mutually exclusive of each other. They can't both be true. X equals Y or X doesn't equal Y. It's one or the other. So, if the Jews are correct that the core tenants of the Christian religion are false, that Jesus was never the Messiah, he's not the Messiah, there is one God and no other. God is completely Unitarian. And the statement that uh the Father is God is a statement of identity rather than predication. If the doctrine of Trinity is false, so then it would make complete sense that the end of days, when the true Messiah comes, the nations of the world will come to the Jews and say, "We've made a terrible mistake. In fact, we're going to grab your shirt cuz we don't want you to go." Jews are a little nervous around non-Jews. Why? Because we haven't been treated well in our long exile. So, we So, they won't let go. And if you're not Jewish and you want to learn from a religious Jew, don't let go. >> [sighs] >> And they're going to say to the Jew, "Now Now know you had the truth all along, which is Isaiah 53, but with, you know, in a such a spectacular way. Now we know the truth. This is all over Tanakh. See Micah chapter 7. Now we realize we've made a mistake that you had the truth all along. See Jeremiah chapter 16 verse 19-20. The Gentiles will come to you and confess surely we've inherited lies and vanity. So this is a big theme all over Tanakh that in the Messianic age, and all Christians believe that these books are holy. It's part of their canon. That the Gentiles will come to the Jews and say, "We have made a monumental mistake." This makes no sense at all. If Jesus is the Messiah, then it is the Jews that have made the monumental mistake in not believing in the core beliefs of the Christian religion, that not believing in Jesus, not believing he's the son of God, not believing that he's the second person in the triune Godhead. So it should say here that the end of days, 10 Jews will grab the shirt of a Christian say, "Take us with you. Now we know God's with you. And now we know we have the truth." Why is it always in Tanakh when one group recognize they made the mistake? It's the Gentiles that realize they made a mistake. Meaning Now the word Gentile is not a Jewish word, it's not a Hebrew word, but we'll just say those among the nations of the world come to the Jews who and are rose to be a light to the nations. Isaiah 42, Isaiah 49. So this makes complete sense if the Jewish faith is the only true faith. That they would be coming to the Jews. And now we know it's plural, not singular as your Christian friend proposed. Why would this happen if the Jews are wrong? It means if if we're wrong from a Christian perspective, we're wrong about the single most important thing in the world, that's Jesus. But if we're right, this makes complete sense and it literally says ish Yehudi a Jew. I mean, it says Jew. You can go to the King James version, Jew. Okay. And therefore, any person, reasonable person, reading Zechariah 8:23, please read it in context, will recognize that this is an end-time prophecy and the non-Jews at the end of days will grab the hem of a Jew and say, "Let us go with you, you all, cuz we've heard that God is with you all," meaning the Jews. That means that Christianity has to be a false religion. That's not politically correct, but it's the truth and the non-Jews will recognize this in the Messianic age. Thank you for your thoughtful question. If you enjoyed this program, please like and subscribe. >> [music] [music] [singing] [music] [singing]