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Trump's Historic Gaza Plan: Land of Israel Guys Podcast
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welcome to the Israel guys and the land
of Israel Network where we believe that
in a world of anti-israel propaganda and
Jew hatred you should have a direct
connection to the land and people of
Israel guys so much happening in the
news this week I'm here with Joshua
Waller and Rabbi Arya bramwit and Jeremy
gimpel so good to have all of us here to
talk about Earth shattering news right
and it seems like the headlines just
continue on and on we're talking about
BB netan Israel's prime minister being
the first foreign leader to be invited
to the White House in Trump's since
Trump was inaugurated um I also read
interestingly that BB has stayed at the
Blair House the official guest residence
for the White House more times than any
other foreign leader at in his terms as
prime minister and in government
capacities in Israel and groundbreaking
that happens uh was it yesterday morning
or the night before I believe President
Trump announced is that the us is going
to take over the Gaza Strip which we
will dive into what in the world does
that mean um I also read because
everybody's talking Saudi Arabia Saudi
Arabia what's going to happen with Saudi
Arabia they've already rejected the plan
and a reporter asked Trump in that same
press conference do you support Israeli
sovereignty in Judea and Samaria and
Trump responded saying there will be an
official US Administration position
within the next month so all fascinating
fascinating stuff we're going to get
into all of that uh first couple quick
announcements guys make sure you
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is that embassador David fredman former
US ambassador David fredman under
Trump's first uh term in office is going
going to be one of the keynote speakers
so could not be more excited about that
can I just tell you one of the most
fascinating and impressive things about
Ambassador David fredman that people
don't know you heard it here first he
came out to the farm and he was sitting
with us at the table we were having
lunch and his son knows the entire Torah
by heart you're kidding by heart it's
not just by heart you can say Leviticus
chap
28:19 and you'll just close his eyes for
a little bit and then spit out the exact
verse chapter and it's unbelievable yeah
so I'm like okay Ambassador fman it was
fun to talk to you
anyways you know it was like so his son
was there you met him yeah yeah he
brought his family to the farm and and
by the way that that says something also
about the Ambassador himself you know
how he raises his family and the values
that he has you see very often reflected
in the children as the values of the
parents and I think he has been a
demonstration of that godliness uh as a
blessing for America and for Israel I
one time I asked him because his name
name is David melik Friedman so it's
like David the king so I asked him you
know what that what what his middle name
is melik yeah yeah we're learning all
these new things about one time I asked
his brother because I was at a meeting
and his brother was there I was like do
you how do you feel about your parents
name and your your younger brother you
know like David King like King he said
oh it wasn't that bad it was a family
name or something and it wasn't so like
so yeah going to say I thought he was
going to say it's hard to be Benjamin
Messiah fredman right right you know in
is messiah messiah is actually a name
that's get I had a plumber named
mashiach wow right like mashiah is
coming to my home to fix my clog the
sink and I mean like beside all those
impressive accomplishments he also
happens to be like the sole reason that
the US Embassy was moved to Jerusalem
and and Jerusalem was recognized by
Trump as the capital but we'll uh don't
have time to get into all of that but
you guys should register right now for
the Israel Summit Link in the
description below would love to see and
meet all of you guys uh there so before
we dive into the details the US the
United States of America taking over the
Gaza STP I want to just do lightning
round like five words Josh good or bad
if I would to boil it down into good or
bad I fact is the question is is it
going to be American territory or Israel
that's my thought and if it's if it's
Israel I'm really excited if it's
America I'm kind of like I don't know
like what is this I don't feel like
America should own territory on the god
of strip if they can help it's great
that's my big that's big good for Israel
good for the world from the place of the
ultimate truth everything that happens
is good and is for the good now it
depends really how this thing plays out
I feel conflicted because on the one
hand I really believe Trump wants the
best thing for Israel for America for
Humanity for the world and so he should
be blessed for that on the other hand I
grieve in my heart that Israel is not
doing this ourselves that we're not
going in and declaring sovereignty and
making a part of Israel that being
said perhaps it would be like the times
of Abraham where Abraham purchased up
the land of Israel if America owns it
then there should be available for
private purchase and Jews could go and
purchase Gaza as Abraham did and make it
Jewish God has ways of doing things that
we don't know but I'm sorry that's more
than five words I'll tell you there are
three things that need to happen when we
come into the land of Israel and the
first one is to rid the land of Amal to
rid the land of evil and all of a sudden
now locating the Gins is not just
mainstream it's what the president of
America is saying needs to be done so if
we can remove the evil from the land of
Israel that is such a huge step forward
that Israel honestly couldn't do on its
own even if we pass the law the Supreme
Court the woke left-wing Progressive
liberal Supreme Court would have shut
that bill down and so when America says
we're doing it this is America the
Supreme Court has no Authority anymore
and Israel disengaged from Gaza leaving
it sort of up in in the in the in the
air of who that land actually belongs to
America coming in and saying all right
we're relocating the gazin permanently
is such a huge step in the right
direction it was a catac a cataclysmic
tectonic shift I mean he took something
that within Israeli Society was outside
the Overton window you could not even
the most furthest right-wing uh
politician could not go come out and say
transfer the entire population there was
an Israeli politician Mel benari that
was banned from running in the knesset
because he said that we have to relocate
the Gins yeah and then Trump in Trump
comes in is like yeah someone asks what
about him oh what about them yeah can we
just call Trump like the ultimate rule
breaker um so before like we we need to
get into all these details but let's
just watch the 30 second clip of trump
making this announcement the US will
take over the Gaza Strip and we will do
a job with it too we'll own it and be
responsible for dismantling all of the
dangerous unexploded bombs and other
weapons on the site level the site and
get rid of the destroyed buildings level
it out create an economic development
that will Supply Unlimited numbers of
jobs and housing for the people of the
area do a real job do something
different just can't go back if you go
back it's going to end up the same way
it has for a hundred years so a lot to
unpack there and obviously a lot of
questions and some people speculating
that the US Administration officials
like were scrambling to follow up with
like okay here's what the president
actually means the White House president
press secretary came out and said well
it's going to be a temporary relocation
you know the president means this we're
not sending US troops in the US is not
going to fund this etc etc but um what
are what what are yall thoughts the
other question is how much some people
actually speculating BB was kind of
surprised when this announcement came
out like what are y'all's thoughts was
this a a carefully calculated move is
this something that BB and Trump came up
with together is this just a classic
like Trump just throw this out there and
see how the world reacts well for sure
that uh they've been talking about
relocating on the other side uh they've
been talking about relocating uh Arabs
from Gaza and the Trump administrations
that's actually been an internal thing
that they've been talking about for a
while so I don't think that's a new idea
it's new to like uh everybody but that's
come out that that wasn't such a new
idea well Trump would never do this
without Israel's approval it's not like
he's doing this Rogue and shocking BB
there were conversations that had to
have happened before that announcement
happened that wasn't like shocking BB
when he's actually in the Press sure
about that I can imagine him just
thinking of it as he's answering the
question I don't think so can I also say
something there's something good going
on when you see BB beaming at the White
House absolutely just compare it
contrast it to Obama who like snuck BB
in through the back door by the big
garbage disposal unit and now Trump is
the first guest coming into the White
House and being treated with as the Ally
and friend that uh like there's such a
sharp contrast there regardless of the
outcome of this it's it's a
restoration um that I think Americans
are celebrating Israel is celebrating I
I think that there's really a a blessing
that's happening because regardless of
what what I how I feel about this Gaza
thing I feel that Trump's heart is in
the right place he wants something good
and I think that um America nations are
also judged on a macro level like it or
not whether it's fair or not it is fair
in the eyes of God and a leader that is
democratically elected is a reflection
of the Nation on some level and for so
long I felt like America was did not
have blessing upon it it was not heading
down a path of virtue and godliness and
biblical Truth at all and now Trump is
has been brought in and he's surrounded
himself by people who are biblical
God-fearing people that's a trend was
the greatest thing that's happened Trump
is actually peeling back the layers of
life lies and the truth for the first
time is really being exposed the truth
is being revealed gazin have no right to
that land they're not gazin as if
they're indigenous to Gaza everyone says
two-thirds of them refugees they have no
claim in any right to that land the
Palestinian people is a fiction that was
created just to destroy Israel because
if there's a Palestinian people then a
Palestinian people obviously needs a
Palestine and Arabs are from Arabia not
Judea and not Gaza and so now it's
saying yes we need to relocate them
because there's no claim there and the
truth now because evil uses delusions
and Illusions to mask the truth and now
he's just peeling that away exposing the
truth that this land belongs to Israel
and working together with Israel coming
out with a joint statement with the
prime minister of Israel next to him
saying we're going to rebuild Gaza from
a base of terrorism and destruction to a
base of Liberty unity and prosperity
like what a beautiful idea let me ask a
question if you guys have this little
voice in the back of your head a little
skeptical voice that maybe this is a
negotiating technique maybe this is and
by the way I don't think any of this is
necessarily premeditated I think he's
such an instinct instinctive person that
it's just coming out but he was just
talking about the Gulf of America it's
not the Gulf of Mexico anymore it's the
Gulf of America and we're going to put
25% tariffs on Mexico and then all of a
sudden Mexico's like well back it up how
about this we'll give you 10,000 of our
soldiers to guard from from Mexican
infiltration with fentanyl into America
and Trump is getting all these things
he's want he backed off the tariffs not
renaming it the Gulf of America he just
throws things out there and then ends up
getting real concessions from people who
are afraid of his erat maybe that's part
of what this is he's throwing such a
thing out there but it's not really an
intention for him to go and build the
Riviera and make it's 100% in America's
interest to create a Puerto ricol like
place in the land of Israel that would
provide them a military base that
doesn't need to be is military but now
it would be America's military base
there is um pictures coming out in Egypt
where they've brought weapons Vehicles
tanks lining up on Egypt's border all of
a sudden now there's going to be an
American Military presence in a place
that would theoretically be America that
will bring a new stability to the region
and to the area I I like that for right
now what happens if that was a military
base under our last Administration and
that wasn't so pro Israel that's when
it's concerning to me thinking long term
what what happens when Trump's no longer
the president and say we get a a uh
Administration that's not so pro-israel
that's what I that's what that's the
little thing behind the scenes to me
that's concerning if it's not built on a
sovereign Israel basis then I could
foresee problems not now because we got
a we got a support like Trump loves
Israel he supports Israel my my big
thought is is when Trump in that video
he says that we're going to re build
this for the PE the locals basically
we're going to rebuild who's he talking
about there's a lot of like uh ambiguity
there's not a lot of clarity not clear
and he's doing that from purpose I'm
sure he's leaving a lot of room here to
develop this what whole piece of the
press conference it was very ambig it
wasn't clear when he was saying settle
them back in is he talking about
settling in the uh Hamas jihadist Gins
is he is he not talking about them does
he understand that the overwhelmingly
vast majority of these gazin civilian
are actually terrorist Hamas supporters
does he understand that from what I
understand he does know that now because
I believe he watched that 45 minute
documentary that was put together on the
atro has he watched it yet he did watch
it before that meeting with netan that
was in my mind a game-changing reality
when he was able to just see evil for
what evil is and that's why when he says
he wants to remove the Gins he's not
saying temporarily meaning they're
backtracking now the state department
but he wants to remove them from the
land and in my mind that is such a GI
step forward yes I understand that in
four years from enough a new
Administration arises but right now we
have a chance to move the jihadist evil
from the land and then establish a place
of freedom and liberty then the freedom
and liberty will decide where they align
meaning that would be a true part of the
Abraham Accords we're talking about two
people right now we're talking about the
gazin Israel and actually if we at
America to this this thing but there's
also other players Saudi Arabia is there
a is there a thought that the Gulf
states are going to be involved with
this when you say be involved are you
talking about receiving the Gins well
because I just look at Trump as the
dealmaker he's really and and they're
also saying they don't like this plan
what do have you guys thought about that
they're already backing down Saudi
Arabia has already said oh the thing
that we were saying under Biden and the
Biden Administration that we're not
going to make a deal with Israel unless
there is a Palestinian state they're
like no no not necessarily maybe a path
forwards a lot of really good talk about
a Palestinian State meaning that when
there is no daylight between America and
Israel it's a blessing for Israel it's a
blessing for America and the world sees
this as such a powerful United block
that all of a sudden Saudi Arabia is
like there there's strength there and we
can rely on this and it's solid we don't
need to play this game as if we care at
all about the Palestinians who I think
Saudi Arabia would play a big role in
investing in building up this Riviera I
mean what a Dream well for me what it
did was it gave me hope m there was a
time where I was looking around I said
to the hostages are being released
there's a sort of a ceasefire things are
we is this it and we're just going to
end now and we're like in the middle
what are we doing with these Gins and
the Kamas and now there's a way forward
that is a huge step for everyone it's
like wow there's a new conversation
that's happening now about relocating
the Gins they lost their right to
self-governance and in that way Iran
really lost the war I'll just tell you
how my heart is a little bit torn I'm a
little bit heartbroken and maybe I'm a
purist or an idealist to such an extreme
degree that it's even a flaw I don't
know but when I heard what Trump said
get them out then I thought of the verse
in the book of numbers but if you do not
possess the inhabitants of the land
Those whom you allow to remain shall be
thorns in your eyes and thorns in your
sides and they shall harass you in the
land in which you live this is a clear
biblical directive why is the Bible not
being implemented
by the nation of the Bible by the people
of the Bible who supposed to be a beacon
of light and living the Torah for a
living manifestation of the Torah for
the entire world and then America is
coming in and implementing this verse or
even suggesting it even putting it out
there to me it just seems like a lot of
a dose of humility for Israel that God's
plan will unfold and may it'll take an
American president to do it if it will
not be through you Israel then it will
happen some way or another meaning to me
it's very clear that God saved Trump's
life that bullet came a millisecond
right near and for just a time like this
I mean Proverbs chapter 21 says the
king's heart is in the hand of God like
the rivers of water he turns it wherever
he wants that is what's happening now
meaning God is taking control and
shifting history in the most unexpected
way possible that's exciting and I feel
like with Trump you the Dem is a demon
ation of that more than I've ever seen
in another leader because you can almost
see the global world changing policies
coming out from a shift in his eye and a
thought fleeting through his head right
it says
um there will be many thoughts in the
mind of in the heart of man but God's wi
will is what will arise but I actually
heard a different teaching about that
many will be thoughts in the hearts of
men but God's will he will decide which
of those thoughts in the heart of man he
will raise up and so what comes out of
Trump's mouth quite literally is Jeremy
said is what is God is willing to play
out in the world right now and that's
why he's such a perfect vessel because
he's true to allow his instinct to come
up where a lot of people don't have that
sort of unbelievable confidence in their
intuition that would change massively
the entire Globe right well what that
video did I think to Donald Trump was it
shifted his perspective to realize that
the Kamas are the Gins and the Gins are
Kamas in that video There's no
distinction between the Hamas terrrace
with the green ribbon and the simple
people of Gaza they were all
participating they were all celebrating
they were all beating the hostages and
to see evil manifest it was like October
7th was this historic turning point and
as the Jewish people left Egypt there
was we were like the pride of The World
God was revealed we took down the
mightiest Empire and then evil came AMC
and attacked Israel and then it sort of
like threw some cold water saying like
is God really that powerful look we're
able to attack this chosen people and
Hamas for the first time broadcast the
atrocities of October 7th saying oh the
Jewish people in the land of Israel
let's see what they're really worth
let's broadcast this humiliation and it
was that humiliation that broadcasting
that's now causing their downfall and so
it was this historic turning point that
without October 7th I don't know if
Trump would have been elected everyone
sort of recognized like whoa that may
come into my borders we have to wake up
right I think you're going to unpack
this on like a lot of different levels
if we just start with the base level
this is how I see it I see Trump has
common sense right he's doing what
you're talking about he's wa he watched
the October 7th footage he sees the
atrocities of Kamas and then he's
looking at pictures of Gaza and he's
saying you know we've all been to Gaza
we've seen we've been you know we've
seen the rubble ourselves
Gaza is a is a trash Heap there is no
Gaza to speak of you know they they
allowed the gazin back into the north of
Gaza what did they do they turned around
and went back south because there's
nothing there's absolutely nothing so
Trump's um looking at this on a very
foundational level going we have to
start over and he also has realized that
any kind of plan that allows Gaza to
rebuild is just going to end up with the
same thing October 7th again oppression
for the Gaz of people so he's saying if
we're going to turn the page in history
there has to be something different and
also Gins are coming out in in droves
and saying you don't need to trans open
the Border we're out oh that out when
has it ever been that uh during a
conflict like this they're being held
imprisoned there they're not allowed to
leave because a lot of these jihadist
countries who don't care about them at
all and hate them are using them as a
pawn to perpetuate the 1948 war that
they've never gotten over the people
that are funding them and sending them
supplies like all the time coming from
Egypt supplies are literally being flown
in all they're not going to allow them
out like it's really a ridiculous thing
and that's happening here in Judea and
Samaria because here they actually have
the option to leave and they can
actually they can easily get visas to a
lot of different countries if that were
to be open which um uh itar Ben gav's
introduced legislation in the knesset
right now to give the Gins a voluntary
uh option to leave and where Israel
would actually give them a financial
compensation for it if that were to
happen we all know they would leave in
droves just like you're saying because
do not want to live there it would be
impossible for mere words to do justice
in describing the land of Israel
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you drive through Judea and Samaria and
you see these massive mansions and yeah
Humvees and Range Rovers and they're
able to build and live quite nicely here
you know so but uh I think that's what
they they just ch it as their vacation
homes though vacation homes honestly
that's not like a they've taken massive
advantage and and and they've they've
made the world think the situation here
is something that it's not it's been the
probably one of the biggest scandals of
of our our historic time the scandal of
the Arab world uh demonizing the Jewish
people uh uh telling a story revamping
the history rewriting the history I mean
that's what we've all seen here and
what's happening is is that is UN it's
it's it's falling that whole facade that
was built since 1964 of a Palestinian
people things you mentioned earlier
Jeremy like this it's the facad is now
crumbling and now the truth is coming to
the top with people like Trump and these
different leaders uh BB these people
these leaders that are recognizing the
truth for once and not disc going along
with this uh horrible uh remake of
History that's been written since 1964
that's how we get to uh I see the reason
why I'm I'm I'm optimistic about this
Trump plan I'm optimistic about the next
four weeks when we hear something about
Judea and Samaria because I believe that
they're addressing the core issue
they're not saying to State like the
other uh administrations have have
historically gone on they are not uh
believing the narrative false on that
I'm I'm also holding my breath but I'm
optimistic about it because I believe
they're they understand that the
narrative was incorrect they understand
that the Arab narrative for the for the
last since 1964 uh was was not uh rooted
in truth it was propaganda and it was
all uh uh written in order to
delegitimize and demonize the Jewish
state and its Origins here so once that
can be removed then I think we've got
something to talk about and I think
that's where we're going to see blessing
and we're also going to see some really
Common Sense moves starting to happen
like get terrorists out of Israel now I
don't understand why terrorists need to
belong anywhere but you know that's
that's I don't know what this plan as
well that I just want to bring up so um
the White House Press Secretary said
that Trump's plan uh is is all about
lasting peace for the entire region
sheal she talked about how president
Trump is an outside the box thinker and
a Visionary leader that solves problems
with many others especially uh the claim
are unsolvable so she's talking about he
has Common Sense he's an outof box
thinker nobody else has put forward
anything remotely feasible for Gaza
right and she's but she also uses the
opportunity to clarify where Trump's
goingon to his plan is temporarily
relocate the Godin so I saw a comment
from someone um that said and and this
makes a lot of sense right how many
years is it going to take to rebuild
Gaza even if the US comes in and and
like spearheads this project we're
talking 10 years 20 years right you you
take the 1.8 or however many Gins there
are they temporarily temporarily reloc I
think he said permanent well he said
permanent but then his staff came back
and said no he meant temporary right
it's classic Trump right but my question
is either way how many gin are going to
come back in 10 years even if they have
the opportunity to come back like well
likely there'll be infrastructure in
place that they'll actually have to get
a visa to come back I mean I hope so
right but even if they have the
opportunity I don't think they're coming
back they leave they and provided that
they're not stuck in a refugee camp
somewhere and they actually could move
to another country well nobody cares if
it's not a refugee camp in Israel no
even if they have the opportunity I
don't think they would they would take
it I think the Big Challenge in this
whole thing is which country would
possibly take them there's not one Arab
country that is even entertaining the
idea we did see that uh picture of the
cannibals saying yes please send them to
us 10 a week we prefer them chubby you
know but there's no country that's
actually coming and saying because they
know what an erratic jihadist
destabilizing Force this these people
are and so I don't see how that's
actually going to really play out well
there are so many countries and you know
Colombia was against Trump uh Mexico was
against Trump and Trump has a way and I
feel like he's such a businessman he's
keeping his cards close to his chest
he's leaving things unclear he's leaving
things ambiguous is it permanent is it
temporary is it 20 years is it 10 years
once they're gone are they going to come
back because a good businessman keeps
his cards close to his chest he doesn't
want to reveal everything at the same
time but what has happened is terrorists
are going to be relocated that is a new
paradigm shift and that Paradigm Shift
needs to happen in Judea and Samaria it
needs to happen in Jerusalem instead of
releasing terrorists into the streets
which is the direction we were going
with this hostage deal were actually
changing the narrative saying if you are
a jihadist you will be removed from the
land that is the biblical imper okay but
what I don't like about this and I could
be wrong here is it doesn't feel like
the right thing for Israel to do is to
export this toxic genocidal evil to any
other country to any other people we
really need to crush it and I think one
of the ways that you actually crush the
ideologies not by getting into their
textbooks but by crushing by uprooting
it from the from its very core from the
deepest roots and what does that mean
for Israel to come in as true
overwhelming Victors declare sovereignty
have an an iron fist against terrorists
Kamas terrorists execute them as they
need to be executed can I say that is
that need I mean it to say execute Hamas
terrorist is the fact I even need to ask
if that can be said it's so obviously
the right thing that needs to be done
and when you uh when you negate the
foundations of their jihadist ideology
that is think about it after 1967 when
we overwhelmingly obliterated Against
All Odds they don't even study that in
West in West Point because they study
Wars and not Miracles Israel would you
could walk through a Jew could walk
through rala Janine taram walk through
without any fear because they were like
the overwhelming strength and victory of
the the god of Israel Over Us it's only
when we started coming in and violating
the Covenant and and giving them land
and that things got weak I think we need
to come in and really as as the nation
of Israel with strength do this and I
don't necessar I'm not confident the
long-term blessing is going to come from
Gaza becoming an American colony well
let's just look at the the trajectory
because to uproot an ideology it has to
be proven wrong and Iran waged a war
against Israel funded the Kamas
organized balah and today Gaza is in
ruins the Hamas is practically destroyed
dbah is devastated Iran's Ally Assad has
been toppled Iran's air defense systems
have been destroyed leaving them totally
vulnerable and Arab self-rule in Gaza is
lost right now it's definitely not going
back to the Kamas it's definitely not
going to the Palestinian Authority or
some other terrorist organization and
now we've paved the way for relocating
terrorists like that is the conversation
that we're having now that Mikel benere
the politician was banned for running in
Israel's knesset for saying relocate the
terrorist and now that is the mainstream
that is a trajectory and we're headed in
the right direction here's a big problem
I see I think it's a great trajectory
and I think it's awesome uh but just to
throw out another issue if you if you
don't take if you don't rid if you don't
fight your enemy and destroy your enemy
if you just relocate him there is
problematic sense of that and kind of
what you're saying Ari is because what
we've seen is is that as long as there
is something intact for isra in in
Israel if if Jude and Samaria for
instance is not completely one over as
well
then we also have these Terror networks
that are going to be run from Iran from
Jordan and Egypt and turkey I mean
that's what we have going on right now
these prisoners that have been sent out
from here even though they've been
banned from Israel say which is great
that the problem's no longer here but
those tentacles still are attached and
those leaders those ones that had life
sentences in Israel are now able to
funnel all of that hatred and evil
through and encourage attacks here and
we've seen that happen actually quite
yesterday here in Samaria someone that
you know from here in in in Hara there
was a terrorist attack on an on an army
base and I wouldn't be surprised if that
weapon that he used was sent directly
from Iran Iran is sending weapons into
Judea and Samaria but even more than
that they're training and teaching and
coordinating from abroad that's the big
issue that I foresee is that it needs to
be added to this how do we make sure
that it's completely dismantled not just
moved to an exterior point because if
they can still Target our friends and
family that live here in Israel that's a
big problem I still have which means
that it has to be not just removed it
has to be finished and I don't know how
that works when you're removing these
say if you're just moving all of the
gsin out that's not destroying Hamas
well I think what what both of you guys
are are saying here is Israel should be
strong Israel should be Sovereign and
they should obliterate evil the the
terrorism and the evil should be
obliterated and that's something that
unfortunately you know 3 weeks ago ago
we saw Israel compromised on in order to
get hostages back um and and Israel they
were strong for 15 months and then all
the sudden I think BB told Fox News that
Hamas is something like 70 or 80%
destroyed their their capacity and their
their Firepower but unfortunately
they've stopped now Israel said no we're
committed to finishing Kamas but they've
stopped the war at this point so the
question is will they continue to be
strong and I think that's something
everybody should agree on strong Israel
Sovereign Israel evil and terrorism
should be obliterated from the land now
people ask ask me I'm sure they ask you
you know is there a future for Arabs in
Israel in Judea and Samaria in Gaza is
there a future for them could they live
in peace with Israel my response and you
guys can tell me what you think but my
response has always been there's a
future for anyone in Israel and with the
Jewish people if they believe in the god
of Abraham and if they Embrace a
covenant that God made with the Jewish
people and with Israel to me it doesn't
matter who you are you're you're Arab
Muslim Christian whoever you are you
have to stand with the god of Abraham
and with the Covenant that he made and
that there's a future for anyone with
the Jewish people clarify one more thing
on that if if you believe in those
things I think that I think you all
agree with this as well but I think it
helps with the clarity is is that maybe
not this and that but it literally in
the from a Biblical perspective which
all of us share and hopefully the new
Administration also shares a Biblical
perspective on this issue is literally
you have Israel and then you don't in a
Biblical perspective you don't have
America's not really mentioned in the
bible uh you know China's not mentioned
in the bible Russia I mean maybe
prophetically or whatever but by name
right you have Israel and then you have
everyone else so meaning this is the
land of Israel and the Jewish people and
then those on the outside must be
guessed and participate how Israel
decides and that's kind of what we
boiling down model see all throughout
the Bible I mean Ruth attached herself
to Israel the Torah talks about the
Foreigner who joined themselves to
Hashem right Israel is not a racist
State it's a welcoming State it's a
house of prayer for all nations from a
Biblical view so right just as Moses was
accused by korak of being being arrogant
and the Bible tells us he was the most
humble we're always accused of that
which is opposite I don't think there is
a less racist state in the world than
Israel in the entire world and so uh you
know for me when I you to answer your
question when we look at Ismael Ishmael
the father of the Arab world in the end
of his life he reconciled with Isaac we
believe that those are archetypes that
that is a blueprint for what's going to
play out and what is already playing out
the Abraham Accords were heading there
so if you ask is there a future for
Arabs in Israel Arabs yes jihadists no
it's that simple that's great right I
think that all of this boils down to
truth and truth is absolute and there is
no scientific proof that's absolute
there's just scientific experiments that
eventually point in a certain direction
and there is One Promise One Foundation
that without it there is no truth and
that is the promise of the land of
Israel to the people of Israel if you
are going to participate in that promise
and reveal that truth that is the truth
of reality and it's just a matter of
time until reality reveals itself and
that is the truth that we just need to
have patience and just hold on now with
faith that the truth will ultimately be
revealed you know Jeremy and I in in our
fellowship we're connected with
righteous of the Nations much like you
guys from all over the world and these
people have installed on their phone the
Red Alert app where the minute there's a
missile shot into Israel wakes them up
in the middle of the night and they say
Psalms I they tell me that they're
struggling with pain and grief and
anxiety over what's happening in Israel
and the Psalms tell us King David tells
us those who sew with tears reap with
joy it doesn't need to be theological
people who love Israel and the Jewish
people so much that their heart and
their emotions are attached to it they
will be sharing in the they share in the
Merit of the Redemption that is coming
and they're a part of it they're a part
literally of of what is happening here
wherever they are phys physically in the
world yeah that's a good point I just to
make it not so theological meaning the
we are witnessing the promise to Abraham
to Abraham it's like we are watching the
Abraham Accords that is being fulfilled
before our eyes under all of the names
that's bringing this region together in
a piece that includes the Believers in
America that includes the righteous
Muslims in the region they're all coming
under the banner of who Abraham who is
the father of many nations I mean can we
see the Bible come more to life than
we're actually watching what's happening
Gaza is just the beginning October 7th
was the beginning of the end and we are
now at the final marching orders toward
a new era that's what it feels like to
me amazing um any last thoughts about
Trump's plan I mean we could probably go
for two hours but uh to me the only
other layer that's possible here is kind
of what Josh and I think aru were
talking about at the beginning and is
this part of a negotiation or a master
plan that doesn't actually involve you
know rebuilding Gaza is this something
to do with Saudi Arabia or furthering
the Abraham Accords um I don't know what
do you think which I I would think would
also be positive and kind of what you're
saying guess the problem problematic
part two just um before you dive into is
is this part of a plan that's going to
force Israel into something that they
shouldn't do like a concession I I
foresee that the the creating a a 23rd
Arab state is kind of being pushed out
is that what you guys a 24th how many
Arab states yeah um another Arab state
that idea is being I think that's off
the table I don't I don't see that the
and which that's why the moving out the
deportation of these people is so
uplifting because that's this is the
first time we're saying no to another
state
October 7th was the two-state solution
that was the consequence of that
allowing evil to manifest to rule itself
to get guards it just became a base of
Terror and there's no question that's
what would happen with any Arab State
that's in the land of Israel now we are
finally liberating the land from that
and that is the most important step is
actually removing the evil from the land
so my big question I guess and the
question we don't really have a lot of
lot of information on is what that would
look like and I foresee it moving very
much in that direction I I don't see a
situation where it's just America and
Israel uh build building Gaza I I very
much so feel like Trump is going to be
pulling in the Gulf States to in order
to expand the Abraham Accords with that
as a big Chun of the deal let me tell
you something beautiful um when the
Abraham Accords were signed I that
immediately the first opportunity that I
had I took my family to Dubai I wanted
to walk around with like a star of David
walking around Muslim country I thought
that I would never see that in my
lifetime and we were honored and
celebrated for being Israelis that were
there and it was beautiful because in
Dubai there are Chinese people Indian
people it looked like a little vision of
like the entire world like a little
Messianic era right there and there was
0% crime it was absolutely you didn't
feel threatened nothing there's zero
crime there imagine 0% crime well
because you grow up in this area I mean
you're from this area and you when you
go like I automatically when I'm in a in
a in a a a strictly Arab country I feel
the oppression of it of course and
you're saying that that was not there
there was 0% crime I never even heard of
such an idea I was able to sell my
little girl across the street to go get
some milk that we'd be able to I mean it
was like an unbelievable reality now
what will happen if this dream somehow
manifests and the United Arab Emirates
are involved and Saudi Arabia is
involved and they're building up this
Riviera it will bring the world to
celebrate the greatest weather in
America and they'll be able to see the
truth meaning what hayovel does better
than any other organization is it brings
people to Judea to Samaria to see the
truth of Israel because then evil can't
manipulate because lies can be said this
is an apartheid state this is a racist
State all of a sudden when you see
reality with your own eyes and they're
able to come and visit a rebuilt Gaza
then evil is has to retreat because the
truth will be revealed the more people
we can bring to the land of Israel to
visit to tour to invest to grow the
better I'll tell you my my concern is
when you say it'll bring the world to
realize let's think about what happened
the last time we were on a great
trajectory with Saudi Arabia and the
Abraham Accords and they're expanding
and they're expanding what happened
Kamas saw this blessing and this
progression towards what appeared to be
a type of Redemptive time and they came
in and attacked on October 7th my
concern I don't want to say concern
because I try not to be concerned about
anything because it's all God's hands
but is that Iran is making is real
seeing what's happening the the way the
pieces are being moved and they're like
this is the time to go for it I think
that we have a real danger here of being
on the edge of real Global World War
happening now maybe I have a tendency to
think in that capacity but I think it's
a real danger that we're facing by the
way if that did happen because of what
the Trump Administration is doing I
would not blame them on bit they're
doing everything they can to steer the
world away from that it's the Biden
Administration that led us to the
precipice of world war to begin with so
I I wouldn't blame Trump but I do think
we need to keep a very close eye on Iran
because they are M straight forward I
mean they they're there's not slowing
down from what we hear they're they're
moving forward at at a rapid Pace with
the nuclear that's all that that's their
final card that's what they have which
has to also be mentioned here as we're
looking at all of these things uh
Benjamin Netanyahu is also becoming of a
and he is that is one thing that he will
be taken care of by all signs of it
before he leaves office you say that
with conviction I feel that way I think
there's no choice exactly because of
what you said meaning it's not enough to
take care of Gaza and it's not enough to
take care of Judea and Samaria the head
of the snake is Iran and if we leave
Iran with nuclear capabilities it's just
a matter of time until that evil is
unleashed the problem is is the axess is
growing it's not just Iran anymore right
turkey yeah well Russia Russ China China
I'm saying that now we're talking about
a global war now we're not talking about
dealing with Iran anymore and they know
that and my concern is so many people
are looking at Trump and like they're so
excited they're so optimistic they like
this guy has it under control some or
not under control but great things are
happening and they're putting so much
belief in faith in Trump that I I have
an instinctive aversion to that like
let's let's back back down here for a
second like we could be headed in
another direction also well he said that
we talked about it last week but he
literally said we
were on the verge we still are on the
verge you don't know how close we were
we don't know how close you like
literally we're that close well the
biggest thing that we have to mention on
this topic is during the same press
conference when Trump had his explosive
announcement about Gaza a reporter from
Israel here from aruch cheva asked him
do you support sovereignty in Juda and
Samaria let's watch that clip you
support Israel soty in Jud and Samaria
areas which many believe is the biblical
homeland of the Jewish people well we're
discussing that with uh many of your
representatives you're represented very
well and people do like the idea but we
we haven't taken a position on it yet
but we will be uh we'll be making an
announcement probably on that very
specific topic over the next four weeks
the fact that he said we'll be making an
announcement in the next four weeks like
that's that's crazy I mean so what do
you guys think I mean predictions here
are the Trump I mean the American
position for decades decades has always
been Palestinian State two- State
solution like that's the only position
that a lot of Americans understand
obviously we've started seeing the shift
in global thinking but the world's not
quite there yet so I don't know what do
you guys think I think that how many
times can you make the same mistake over
and over again meaning it's been decades
trying to shove this two-state idea down
Israel's throat until it brought Israel
to almost destruction I mean we were an
existential threat had Iran attacked
Galah tried to attack Gaza attacked had
Egypt joined in Israel could have been
erased it is time to put the two-state
solution to rest and I love the way that
question was asked Judea and Samaria
which is the biblical homeland of the
Jewish people now the people that are
surrounding president Trump now they
really see the world through the eyes of
the Bible Through The Eyes Of History
not Through The Eyes of like what
happened since 1940s or 1930 it's like
going all the way back to Jewish history
and there is no people more indigenous
to a land than the Jews in Judea Jews
have been living in Jerusalem longer
than French people have been living in
Paris Jews have been living in Jerusalem
longer than any Americans lived in amer
like it's uninterrupted to Temple Times
exactly and so that is the truth and if
we just align with reality reality will
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and I'll tell you when you look at uh
England pre-World War II uh Churchill
was vilified they were talking about
hanging him from the light poles in in
in England and then what happened they
elected Chamberlain who came in and
peace in our times and making deals with
Hitler and what shifted England into the
massive Blitz the the the the stomach
punch and then the face being knocked
out nearly destroyed they're like we
need that guy that guy that we were
calling an extremist and crazy that we
wanted to hang from the light bulbs
please be our prime minister I think
Israel is coming around quicker than the
rest of the world regarding Judea and
Samaria because I could tell you living
here being on the deepest settlement in
Southeastern Judea so much there were
people in Israel like you're the problem
is the Jude and Samaria the settlements
you're the reason and now they're like
thank you we understand now that without
you all of Natan ranana the Tel Aviv
would be October 7th a thousand times I
think the world will soon come to the
understanding that Judea and Samaria is
the tip of the spear and protecting
every human being that doesn't want to
live under the Jihad there's one thing
that that that I think is interesting on
this topic of Jude and Samaria and that
is is that I feel like the Trump
administration at least in the past saw
them uh Gaza and in Samaria as this as a
as something they wanted to connect they
saw them as the same issue and so I
don't know the deal Century actually
called for a physical Road between Judea
and Gaza so that their mindset is is it
the same people same problems and I
wonder if it's being shifted if it's not
being shifted I could foresee that it's
being connected that what will come in
four weeks will be connected to what
will come also be defined more with Gaza
that it could actually all be declared
as Sovereign Jewish State now that would
be amazing the only reason why that
makes me think that is is because uh the
other day Trump was sitting at his desk
and he pulled out his pen he was talking
to a reporter he pulled his pen out and
he said you know what this is Israel and
he said this is the rest of the AR the
Middle East is this whole my whole desk
and he put put his pen next to the table
there and he's like this is it
right to me what that was translated to
me was Trump understands that Israel
needs to be bigger that's what I thought
he was saying I think he understood that
Israel is America's strongest Ally in
the Middle East the most the most uh uh
stabilizing force in the Middle East and
it needs to grow just like he would in
in like the American dream of being
strong and holding on to your territory
and if there's an argument that Gaza and
Jude and Samaria are a part of Israel
historically I can't foresee that he
would look at them as the same and there
would be Israeli sovereignty declared on
both I do feel like that could happen
well that's another example of the
absolute lie of the quote unquote
Palestinian people the Arabs in Gaza
have literally nothing to do with the
Arabs in Judea and Samaria they're
different tribes there different
backgrounds there's different dialects
in their conversation it's they're not a
singular people they are tribes that are
nomadic from Arabia and what did they do
they kind of wandered around the Middle
East and squatted in different places
and they happen to be squatting on the
Jewish people's ancestral Homeland and
now the truth is coming out that if they
want to live here with peace with
harmony with the Jewish people they're
welcome to stay here but if they're not
then it's time to relocate them mhm my
big question is is is is that going to
be different and if it is something
different cuz it seems like right now
what we're getting is it's going to be
two different things everybody's like oh
is it going to be sovereignty in Judea
and Samaria well from the past they've
dealt with the two situations in in the
same kind of ideology it would be very
interesting for me to to to to wonder if
they diff if if they separate the two
and it's a Jude and Samar over here and
the Gau over here this is going to be
our our chopping block for creating
peace with the uh Arab neighbors and and
expanding the Abraham Accords could do
that and also this Jude and Samaria
thing is our negotiation between
American and and Israel that's going to
be I could foresee them saying okay this
is going to be a little bit different
this is not going to be part of our our
negotiating and our deal making to
expand Abraham Accords this is going to
be we're going to expand Israel and this
is like the give to BB I could foresee
that I I really could foresee some read
this quote I think it it summarizes this
very well so the local leaders in Jun
sent a letter to netan the day before
for his meeting in the white house they
said quote Israeli sovereignty is not a
luxury but a duty meant to prevent the
establishment of an Arab Terror state in
the heart of the land and it's part of
the absolute Victory complete Israeli
sovereignty in Judean Samaria is not
only the realization of our natural
right in our land but it's also the only
way to ensure that the horrors of
October 7th will not repeat in aula
hadera faraba modin Jerusalem and Beva
so um it's G to be interesting I think
again it's kind of one of those things
you we're going to hope for the best
also there's some really amazing players
that are on BB's team that are part of
this uh our good friend Caroline Glick
is one of his closest advisers now um
but predictions on what's going to
happen in the next four weeks Will trump
support the idea of sovereignty in Jud
and Samaria which personally I would say
would is more would be more Earth
shattering than his plan for the US to
to rebuild Gaza uh will BB netan support
sovereignty uh as well because he's
historically flip flopped on that issue
and obviously the more important issue
is for Israel to support sovereignty not
Trump because that like you were saying
AR the important thing is for Israel to
be so strong and Sovereign obviously we
want the United States to support the
idea as well but Israel should be strong
and do what they need to do um and
obviously the big question is will the
will the idea of sovereignty be put
forward possibly in exchange for any
idea of you know normalization with
Saudi Arabia which has been for years
now has been like for some reason has
been uh the the like thing that
everybody says is the most important
obviously giving up land in the very
your very Heartland is not uh more
important than any kind of normalization
with any other country I I I just
foresee that the Israeli team that's on
Deck right now the Israeli government
team including you know uh with with BB
who is flip-flop but he's got a
right-wing team on his on his deck right
now I can foresee that the Israeli team
would be and I almost feel like the bean
be that we see that that uh that beaming
face that BB's carrying right now in in
Washington DC could be connected to BB's
it feels like BB has has actually only
lean left because of pressure he
naturally wanted to be right is my my my
perception after reading his book and
and and and knowing more about him uh
historically I feel like the the Israeli
team would accept sovereignty if it was
nudged this way from America on our past
programs I remember Jeremy once made the
analogy of Benjamin Netanyahu to Saul
King Saul from that tribe of from The
Tribe of Benjamin and saying well
there's a certain um finger to the wind
listening to his people a vacillation
and uh there's a prevalent theory in
Israel that BB always goes and appoints
leftist uh Ramat Khal the head of the
army and leftist people so he can sort
of blame them and Outsource the
pragmatic International leftist
decisions that he's making and say it's
about them and not alienate his further
right-wing bit and I think that right
now BB is looking at the table and he's
saying wait a second now I I can
actually why is he bringing in Carolyn
Glick now why didn't he bring her in
before because he sees now is the time
where he could actually use her because
that her her ideological peers are on
the other side too so if that does
happen and I certainly hope it does I
don't think it's necessarily because of
a foundational shift in BB it's because
of the the uh ecosystem that we're in
right now yeah to answer your question I
think that sovereignty and Judean
Samaria has never been closer meaning I
don't think that we need peace with
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia needs Israel
and America much more than we need Saudi
Arabia and so the fact that we've put
the Bible or at least we should put the
Bible front and center and that really
is um the question of the next four
weeks can Israel can Caroline gake can
all of the people around Trump and nany
bring God a little bit more to the
Forefront if this remains a topic about
Trump in politics instead of actually
bringing God to the Forefront the Bible
to the Forefront history of what is the
true reality of what should be in the
Middle East I think that really is the
key that will solve all of the problems
yeah with your permission I would like
to sort of pivot a little bit because I
think Jeremy just touched on it right
there this is not a uh binary of left or
right we're going to lose either way
this needs to be a binary of God or no
God and I think that that's the conflict
that's happening that has been happening
deep in the undercurrent and the
foundational conflict within Israeli
society and that's something I wanted to
share because a lot of people don't hear
this they don't know this they don't
know what's really happening and I just
saw an interview of the outgoing Deputy
head of the Israeli Army and he was
talking about one of the prospective new
RADS ofer Vinter and he said not worthy
could we play that clip yeah off
Vin for
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I think that the interviewer was 100%
right he nailed it that this yair Golan
that was the deputy head of the Israeli
Army is part of the Old Guard there is a
deep spiritual religious uh Revolution
that is happening and what is a
revolution essentially going back to the
very beginning Revolution goes back to
the beginning we are returning to our
spiritual Roots as a people of faith in
the land of Israel and it is so
fundamentally changing the country where
soldiers are ripping off all their old
patches and what are they putting on the
patch about their W their really
fighting for which is the temple which
is for messiah which is what it's really
about and that terrifies people like him
and that's the internal conflict that's
really happening in the country that's
what it's really about can I tell you
though something that's really beautiful
that was talking about ofer Vinter who
was known as a very religious person
that was speaking you know in the name
of the Torah in the name of God netan
has now appointed a new chief of staff
and ofer vinder has now been reinstated
as a general in the Army so there is not
just a change that's happening within
the spirit of Israel but fundamentally
we're actually changing the leadership
now of the IDF and that's exciting right
I could go into biblical Source after
biblical Source but just you know here's
just one of them from Ezekiel chapter 36
for I'll take you from among the Nations
and gather you out of all the countries
and bring you back to your own land then
I will sprinkle clean water upon you and
you shall be clean from all your
filthiness and from your Idols I will
cleanse you and I will give you a new
heart and put a new spirit within you I
will remove the Heart of Stone from your
flesh and give you a heart of Flesh and
I will put my spirit within you and
cause you to walk in my statutes and you
shall keep my judgments and do them that
is what is happening under the headlines
on BBC that is what's happening within
the nation of Israel and you see this
also from people that the the world
would say oh it's a secular country
they're secular people and they don't
understand what's really in the heart of
the Jews I want to play this clip of one
of the hostage girls at Pi Cohen
explaining what her experience was nice
you have bed bus in all your body it's
very hard to breathe there you don't
have hair you can see the
sunlight
but you know the fact
that I believe in God it doesn't say
that I will get everything that I want
and it doesn't say that I will be happy
all the
time but it's promised me just one thing
that behind everything that happened
there is purpose and I just thought
about that every
time if I need to be in the Tanis I will
be in the Tanis and I will try to do the
best that I can do you hear that that is
what is called Faith does she keep every
intricate law of the Sabbath I don't
know but that's not what we're talking
about here what does the book of
Deuteronomy tell us then the Lord your
God will bring you into the land which
your fathers possessed and you shall
possess it and the Lord your God will
circumcise your heart and the heart of
your descendants to love the Lord your
God with all your heart and all all your
soul that you may live that is what is
happening well what's so beautiful about
that is that quote and then you
mentioned Ezekiel meaning Israel is
going to come back to the land and go
through a process we're going to come
back and we're going to need a new heart
we're going to need a new spirit cuz the
founders of Israel are not going to have
a heart they're not going to have the
spirit of God and then this this process
that's happening it's like cracked open
our heart but it's opened up our heart
for but also like a fish in water this
holistic return to God on the deepest
emotional spiritual psychological level
can only happen within our land the
nation of Israel in the land of Israel
brings forth this new heart this new
circumcised heart well I'll tell you
what was so powerful for me because I
woke up this week and tahila made
pancakes for the kids we were just so
excited with the news that we're going
to relocate the gin and America will
rebuild into a Riviera was just such an
exciting concept because we were sort of
like with our backs to the Sea and Egypt
was running after us just like this
week's Torah portion and there was
nowhere to run there was just no
solution there was no way out of this
problem we're stuck with the Kamas in
Gaza we're stuck with the gazin in Gaza
what are we going to do there is no way
out and then all of a sudden the sea
split and then there was no way and now
there is a way this strengthened my
faith so much because when our own human
eyes can't see a
way God has elected Donald Trump took
him down for four years only to allow
things to unfold at such a time and in
such a place to make a revolution in the
land of Israel and in the Middle East
and to me we're literally watching
something of biblical proportion a
splitting of the sea historically this
is no less than Cyrus's declaration
of like we are going to change things in
the Middle East and so I don't know may
we um see a beautiful new day and I
think that what we just saw there with
this girl who is representative to me of
what's happening in the hearts of the
nation is that whatever is happening God
is going to choose the true leader of
Israel and raise him up we're going to
have the we're going to go through very
soon this transition from Saul to David
that's exact we're on the precipice of
that transition right now I think that's
an amazing way to finish today's uh show
we could go on for hours and hours and I
think the the headlines are literally
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